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Favorite magblade setup?

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  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    I am testing out 5 Lich, 5 Necropotence + some Kena or Grothdarr, still do not have the whole sets, but working on it :smiley:

    I get the high magicka, but I feel like you either go high resources or balance out with sustain. I personally feel with your high magicka low spell power that it's still gonna mediocre damage output.

    Now if go shades as a skill and kena 2pc, I'd be interested to know how it works since you have the resources and the sustain to keep Kena going, but the sad part is you have to be in melee to do it unless you go 4pc necro.
    As a nb, keeping up siphoning has always been enough for me. In pve I run like 850 regen same as on my gank build. In pvp nonganking I'm at like 1200 regen which is fine if you're used to it.

    No damage=no kills in this state of pvp so putting on necro not only gives an insane damage boost, but also a bigger magicka pool to help with casting spells and giving bigger shields. Don't forget that magicka counts towards damage, just doesn't show up on the character sheet; I think it's 10.5:1

    If* lich drops sharpened swords (I honestly don't know if it does), I would go 2 lich swords, 3 lich body pieces, 2 monster set, 5 necropotence with a resto staff (5 light 1 1 for undaunted).

    Front bar resto staff-dampen, healing ward, swallow soul, entropy, fear/agony harvest
    Back bar-shadow image, merciless resolve, cripple, siphoning strikes, impale meteor/soul tether

    Then you have it so you can weave, get down the target's health, and build ultimate with the resto bar to setup for your burst on your back bar (fear + meteor + merciless proc will take out almost anyone if you time it right).

    If you go kena and can keep it up you'll have great damage output but honestly I'd probably go infernal guardian instead. If you hit a spot where your sustain is low just swap to dw bar to proc lich and go back to what you were doing. The key is to maintain shadow image and siphoning strikes.

    Also note this is mostly a 1v1 build, I'd change some stuff around for openworld.
  • altemriel
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    Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »
    PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    I am testing out 5 Lich, 5 Necropotence + some Kena or Grothdarr, still do not have the whole sets, but working on it :smiley:

    I get the high magicka, but I feel like you either go high resources or balance out with sustain. I personally feel with your high magicka low spell power that it's still gonna mediocre damage output.

    Now if go shades as a skill and kena 2pc, I'd be interested to know how it works since you have the resources and the sustain to keep Kena going, but the sad part is you have to be in melee to do it unless you go 4pc necro.
    As a nb, keeping up siphoning has always been enough for me. In pve I run like 850 regen same as on my gank build. In pvp nonganking I'm at like 1200 regen which is fine if you're used to it.

    No damage=no kills in this state of pvp so putting on necro not only gives an insane damage boost, but also a bigger magicka pool to help with casting spells and giving bigger shields. Don't forget that magicka counts towards damage, just doesn't show up on the character sheet; I think it's 10.5:1

    If* lich drops sharpened swords (I honestly don't know if it does), I would go 2 lich swords, 3 lich body pieces, 2 monster set, 5 necropotence with a resto staff (5 light 1 1 for undaunted).

    Front bar resto staff-dampen, healing ward, swallow soul, entropy, fear/agony harvest
    Back bar-shadow image, merciless resolve, cripple, siphoning strikes, impale meteor/soul tether

    Then you have it so you can weave, get down the target's health, and build ultimate with the resto bar to setup for your burst on your back bar (fear + meteor + merciless proc will take out almost anyone if you time it right).

    If you go kena and can keep it up you'll have great damage output but honestly I'd probably go infernal guardian instead. If you hit a spot where your sustain is low just swap to dw bar to proc lich and go back to what you were doing. The key is to maintain shadow image and siphoning strikes.

    Also note this is mostly a 1v1 build, I'd change some stuff around for openworld.



    Infernal guardian looks interesting :)
    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Infernal+Guardian+Set
  • altemriel
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    Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »
    PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    I am testing out 5 Lich, 5 Necropotence + some Kena or Grothdarr, still do not have the whole sets, but working on it :smiley:

    I get the high magicka, but I feel like you either go high resources or balance out with sustain. I personally feel with your high magicka low spell power that it's still gonna mediocre damage output.

    Now if go shades as a skill and kena 2pc, I'd be interested to know how it works since you have the resources and the sustain to keep Kena going, but the sad part is you have to be in melee to do it unless you go 4pc necro.
    As a nb, keeping up siphoning has always been enough for me. In pve I run like 850 regen same as on my gank build. In pvp nonganking I'm at like 1200 regen which is fine if you're used to it.

    No damage=no kills in this state of pvp so putting on necro not only gives an insane damage boost, but also a bigger magicka pool to help with casting spells and giving bigger shields. Don't forget that magicka counts towards damage, just doesn't show up on the character sheet; I think it's 10.5:1

    If* lich drops sharpened swords (I honestly don't know if it does), I would go 2 lich swords, 3 lich body pieces, 2 monster set, 5 necropotence with a resto staff (5 light 1 1 for undaunted).

    Front bar resto staff-dampen, healing ward, swallow soul, entropy, fear/agony harvest
    Back bar-shadow image, merciless resolve, cripple, siphoning strikes, impale meteor/soul tether

    Then you have it so you can weave, get down the target's health, and build ultimate with the resto bar to setup for your burst on your back bar (fear + meteor + merciless proc will take out almost anyone if you time it right).

    If you go kena and can keep it up you'll have great damage output but honestly I'd probably go infernal guardian instead. If you hit a spot where your sustain is low just swap to dw bar to proc lich and go back to what you were doing. The key is to maintain shadow image and siphoning strikes.

    Also note this is mostly a 1v1 build, I'd change some stuff around for openworld.



    I am now testing this setup:

    5 Necropotence (3 armor, 2 jewelry), 5 Lich (1 jewelry, 1 destro staff, 1 resto staff, 3 armor), I am going to put some 1 monster piece there.

    or maybe I will try 5/5/2 setup, like
    Necropotence: 2 Armor, 2 jewery, 1 destro staff
    Lich: 3 armor, 1, jewelry, 1 resto staff
    2 monster set
  • exeeter702
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    PeaNutShotz wrote: »
    Exactly. Rattle has major sorcery activated at all times plus the extra spell dmg vs clever alchemist which you have to drink a potion to gain the extra spell dmg and than get close sap and hope everything works.

    I think the rattle set and vicious would be an interesting test to see if it pans out if not the rattle cage would go on my dps healer or my magdk.

    You are misunderstanding. You drink a major sorcery potion. Gain major sorcery, then that triggers the alchemist buff, plus alchemist has a flat spell damage boost as its 4 piece as well. There is no saping.

    Entropy and or sap essence is generally on a magblades bar regardless. Rattle cage is better suited for other magicka classes.
  • exeeter702
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    PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    I am testing out 5 Lich, 5 Necropotence + some Kena or Grothdarr, still do not have the whole sets, but working on it :smiley:

    I get the high magicka, but I feel like you either go high resources or balance out with sustain. I personally feel with your high magicka low spell power that it's still gonna mediocre damage output.

    Now if go shades as a skill and kena 2pc, I'd be interested to know how it works since you have the resources and the sustain to keep Kena going, but the sad part is you have to be in melee to do it unless you go 4pc necro.

    51-52k magicka pool is hardly low damage. Your character sheet will show 2kish unbuffed, with lich necro.

    The set combo works very well. Just falls apart when you have to deal with more then 2 players.

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    How good is Overwhelming surge set on magblade? does it proc on all class skills (most of the skills I use are class skills) and does it do damage to more players within the reach or just one?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Overwhelming+Surge+Set
  • altemriel
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    exeeter702 wrote: »
    PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    I am testing out 5 Lich, 5 Necropotence + some Kena or Grothdarr, still do not have the whole sets, but working on it :smiley:

    I get the high magicka, but I feel like you either go high resources or balance out with sustain. I personally feel with your high magicka low spell power that it's still gonna mediocre damage output.

    Now if go shades as a skill and kena 2pc, I'd be interested to know how it works since you have the resources and the sustain to keep Kena going, but the sad part is you have to be in melee to do it unless you go 4pc necro.

    51-52k magicka pool is hardly low damage. Your character sheet will show 2kish unbuffed, with lich necro.

    The set combo works very well. Just falls apart when you have to deal with more then 2 players.



    why is it not good for more than 2 players?
  • PS4_ZeColmeia
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    My point is fully buffed in Stygian popping shadowy, I hit 51k magicka and 3500+ spell power
    PSN: ***___Chan (3 _s)
    Hybrid, All-Role NB
  • altemriel
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    PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »
    My point is fully buffed in Stygian popping shadowy, I hit 51k magicka and 3500+ spell power

    sounds nice :)

    5 Stygian and the rest which sets?
  • altemriel
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    Which 1 or 2 piece monster set would you guys recommend for 5 lich, 5 Necropotence combination?

    I run these skills:
    destro bar - flame staff (I was thinking of trying maybe lightning staff too) (lich) : lotus fan, merciless resolve, impale, destructive clench, sumon shade, ulti: incapacitating strike

    resto bar (necropotence): funnel health, (flex spot), dark cloak, healing springs, mutagen, ulti: soul tether
    Flex spot: sap essence, concealed weapon, mass hysteria, siphoning strikes, elemental drain
    Edited by altemriel on November 19, 2016 6:57PM
  • bebynnag
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    5 Lich(jewels, 1 armor, defending resto) 5 Necropotence (4 armor, destro) 1 Grothdarr

    Infinite sustain, huge shields, solid damage from the enormous magika pool. You can run 1 kena instead of 1 grothdarr, but since we're stacking magika with this setup I decided to go all in on that and squeeze every ounce of shield that I can.

    Edit: Spinners is a really solid set as well if you can manage your shields well it can replace necro, but you'll lack some damage against sorcs and other shield users. Pirate king 2 piece is also dope AF

    i use a similar set up but i have 5 lich on my back bar, 5 necropotence on my front bar and am currently trying different monster sets, this allows me full control of the lich proc especially useful in sanctum

    i intially planned on using iceheart so i could have an ice blade (ice staff & ice comet) but in practice i find narineth more useful.
  • Calboy
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    altemriel wrote: »
    Which 1 or 2 piece monster set would you guys recommend for 5 lich, 5 Necropotence combination?

    I run these skills:
    destro bar - flame staff (I was thinking of trying maybe lightning staff too) (lich) : lotus fan, merciless resolve, impale, flame clench, sumon shade, ulti: incapacitating strike

    resto bar (necropotence): funnel health, (flex spot), dark cloak, healing springs, mutagen, ulti: soul tether
    Flex spot: sap essence, concealed weapon, mass hysteria, siphoning strikes, elemental drain

    I've been running with a lightning staff lately and the undodgable damage is great but it's super hard to weave with. I find alot of the time in pvp and even in pve I just can't proc resolve and when I do the buff runs out.
  • altemriel
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    Calboy wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    Which 1 or 2 piece monster set would you guys recommend for 5 lich, 5 Necropotence combination?

    I run these skills:
    destro bar - flame staff (I was thinking of trying maybe lightning staff too) (lich) : lotus fan, merciless resolve, impale, destructive clench, sumon shade, ulti: incapacitating strike

    resto bar (necropotence): funnel health, (flex spot), dark cloak, healing springs, mutagen, ulti: soul tether
    Flex spot: sap essence, concealed weapon, mass hysteria, siphoning strikes, elemental drain

    I've been running with a lightning staff lately and the undodgable damage is great but it's super hard to weave with. I find alot of the time in pvp and even in pve I just can't proc resolve and when I do the buff runs out.



    yes, this, and also the knock back feature of destructive clench is nice, but I mean, shock damage stuns the enemy, might be nice too. is shock staff destructive clench as AOE, or single target?

    which monster sets are you running with it?
    Edited by altemriel on November 19, 2016 6:59PM
  • exeeter702
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    altemriel wrote: »
    exeeter702 wrote: »
    PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    I am testing out 5 Lich, 5 Necropotence + some Kena or Grothdarr, still do not have the whole sets, but working on it :smiley:

    I get the high magicka, but I feel like you either go high resources or balance out with sustain. I personally feel with your high magicka low spell power that it's still gonna mediocre damage output.

    Now if go shades as a skill and kena 2pc, I'd be interested to know how it works since you have the resources and the sustain to keep Kena going, but the sad part is you have to be in melee to do it unless you go 4pc necro.

    51-52k magicka pool is hardly low damage. Your character sheet will show 2kish unbuffed, with lich necro.

    The set combo works very well. Just falls apart when you have to deal with more then 2 players.



    why is it not good for more than 2 players?

    Well honestly its more of a natural problem with where pvp is in general.
    Having been practicing rigorously with the lich necro, it's simply very hard. Let me try and break it down.

    With necro, you are devotin yourself to a strong dampen magicka shield and shades as an escape / mobility tool. That becomes the crux of your build.

    Now I know many people might dis agree with me, but playing my nb build with these 2 sets, I've opted out of using cloak, and more often than not, I feel like a gimped mag sorc. Shade takes setup and honestly I really feel like it should be changed to not require a hostile target to place, and to give it an indicator so you can more easily determine the range at which it falls off.

    In duels or 1v1s it's great, but If you even have one other stamina build so much as breathing near you, you have little options, every other second you are having to cast dampen. Couple that with the complete lack of ranged kiting vs melee dynamic thanks to a combat system with zero CD's and gap closers with tied in damage.

    In a normal mmo world, a ranged class in the vein of a magicka nb, you would be able to apply dots, snare, root and kite, and slowly drain your taerget while applying smart timed fears to off targets. Much akin to warlocks, shadow priests, sith sorcerers, necromancers and demonologists of AoC, etc etc. Shuffle invalidates most ranged snares and roots, magicka based dots hardly provide any offensive threat on there own and it doesn't help that the spells move at the speed of smell. Never have i endured an mmo that clearly conceptualized said archetype and renders it so ineffective in pvp.

    Just go gang bomber build or make a tanky setup, stand in the thick of it and spam your powerful aoe. Necro lich was almost and half measure that I thought would help fulfill a type of magicka ranged life stealing control mage but that is just a pipe dream. Maybe when arenas finally come out, we will see build's really shine that don't otherwise work in lopsided cyrodil or ic where numbers more often than not rule the outcome.

  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »
    My point is fully buffed in Stygian popping shadowy, I hit 51k magicka and 3500+ spell power
    Be careful with stygian, it's been known to be buggy with cloak.

    @altemriel if you're looking to run necro with 1 monster set piece, I would pick ilambris or infernal guardian or grothdarr for the 1 piece max magicka bonus

    @Lexxypwns if you go 5 necropotence front bar and swap to the resto bar to proc lich, does the magicka bonus automatically return upon switching back to the necro bar as long as shadow image is still up, or do you need to "re-trigger" it by casting shadow image again?
    Edited by Stoopid_Nwah on November 19, 2016 8:22PM
  • Bazeric
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    exeeter702 wrote: »
    Now I know many people might dis agree with me, but playing my nb build with these 2 sets, I've opted out of using cloak, and more often than not, I feel like a gimped mag sorc. Shade takes setup and honestly I really feel like it should be changed to not require a hostile target to place, and to give it an indicator so you can more easily determine the range at which it falls off.
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    ...type of magicka ranged life stealing control mage...

    I rarely use cloak when I play using staves, it is too unreliable with out a speed boost from conceal or double take, I find shields and elusive mist to be far more effective defensively. Yeah, gimped sorc for sure. I agree with the removing the 'targeting condition' idea. The shade has never felt as powerful to me as streak as a kiting option since 99 times out of 100 setting it up means you are already spotted and being gap closer rooted and removing the purpose of the shade in the first place. The worst thing that would come from a change like this is I would probably just play with it in a quiet, lonely place because it would be entertaining. (it would play out something like this in my head, "Okay, cast my shade...*... sprint over to that tree.......... now teleport back...*...LOL, I am having way to much fun with this maybe I should go fight things...nah, one more time.)

    I used to be able to play that style fairly effectively before 1T.


    Also to comment on Stygian, been using it since the first week of 1T after I got all the pieces I needed. YES, the numbers look good and huge, but those only apply in stealth. This means good for openers or one burst (provided you can stealth at that point) It is a very particular set open-world and I know, while using it, I would be 3x more effective as a proctard. I would like to see some adjustments to improve magicka melee, since it is the highest risk play style at the moment and it still under performs.
    Looking for broken things in hopes they may be fixed. I've given up, my game literally works differently from yours.
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  • PS4_ZeColmeia
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    I like the set bonuses as well. I use cloak so often with shadowy it's great and it buffs my armor as well.

    It's definitely a playstyle but that's also why I went vamp Khajiit
    Edited by PS4_ZeColmeia on November 19, 2016 8:42PM
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  • bebynnag
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    Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »
    PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »
    My point is fully buffed in Stygian popping shadowy, I hit 51k magicka and 3500+ spell power
    Be careful with stygian, it's been known to be buggy with cloak.

    @altemriel if you're looking to run necro with 1 monster set piece, I would pick ilambris or infernal guardian or grothdarr for the 1 piece max magicka bonus

    @Lexxypwns if you go 5 necropotence front bar and swap to the resto bar to proc lich, does the magicka bonus automatically return upon switching back to the necro bar as long as shadow image is still up, or do you need to "re-trigger" it by casting shadow image again?

    i activate shadow on my (back) lich bar, then switch to (front) necro bar which procs the 5th piece, then i pretty much stay on front bar

    but when i do need to switch, more regularly the bonus will return as long as shadow is still up
    Edited by bebynnag on November 19, 2016 8:52PM
  • LegacyDM
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    altemriel wrote: »
    How good is Overwhelming surge set on magblade? does it proc on all class skills (most of the skills I use are class skills) and does it do damage to more players within the reach or just one?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Overwhelming+Surge+Set

    I'm using it at the moment. It's fun. It procs on all skills 15% chance, no cool down, 12 meter range and effects 1 nearest enemy. Golded out 5th piece bonus does close to 2.4k. Slightly less that grothdarr at 2.5k. I've combined it with grothdarr. When grothdarr and overwhelming proc at same time it melts people. I'm running 5x surge 5x rattkecage 2x grondarr.
    Edited by LegacyDM on November 20, 2016 9:43PM
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  • altemriel
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    How good is Overwhelming surge set on magblade? does it proc on all class skills (most of the skills I use are class skills) and does it do damage to more players within the reach or just one?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Overwhelming+Surge+Set

    I'm using it at the moment. It's fun. It procs on all skills 15% chance, no cool down, 12 meter range and effects 1 nearest enemy. Golded out 5th piece bonus does close to 2.4k. Slightly less that grothdarr at 2.5k. I've combined it with grothdarr. When grothdarr and overwhelming proc at same time it melts people. I'm running 5x surge 5x rattkecage 2x grondarr.



    wait wait, how can you combine two pieces of two monster sets, when monster sets come only in helm or shoulders? or am I missing something here :smiley: ?

    I saw lately a death recap in cyro, when I died and there were two monster sets hitting me, so I was wondering, how can one person have 2 monster sets active with the 2nd bonus? So I thought that it was from two people, each of them wearing 2 pieces of a monster set..

    oh and rattlecage, I am farming Vaults of Madness now for this set and also Crypt of Hearts for Lich set, also a nice one, for my magblade. But Rattle, Surge, 2 monster set sound devastating :smiley::smiley: !!

    I gotta try that out :smiley


    oh and that surge, if that would be an aoe, not single target, wow :smiley:
    Edited by altemriel on November 21, 2016 6:13AM
  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    altemriel wrote: »
    LegacyDM wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    How good is Overwhelming surge set on magblade? does it proc on all class skills (most of the skills I use are class skills) and does it do damage to more players within the reach or just one?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Overwhelming+Surge+Set

    I'm using it at the moment. It's fun. It procs on all skills 15% chance, no cool down, 12 meter range and effects 1 nearest enemy. Golded out 5th piece bonus does close to 2.4k. Slightly less that grothdarr at 2.5k. I've combined it with grothdarr. When grothdarr and overwhelming proc at same time it melts people. I'm running 5x surge 5x rattkecage 2x grondarr.



    wait wait, how can you combine two pieces of two monster sets, when monster sets come only in helm or shoulders? or am I missing something here :smiley: ?

    I saw lately a death recap in cyro, when I died and there were two monster sets hitting me, so I was wondering, how can one person have 2 monster sets active with the 2nd bonus? So I thought that it was from two people, each of them wearing 2 pieces of a monster set..

    oh and rattlecage, I am farming Vaults of Madness now for this set and also Crypt of Hearts for Lich set, also a nice one, for my magblade. But Rattle, Surge, 2 monster set sound devastating :smiley::smiley: !!

    I gotta try that out :smiley


    oh and that surge, if that would be an aoe, not single target, wow :smiley:
    Monster sets come with a head and shoulder piece, so they are running grothdarr to get the max magicka bonus and the two piece special bonus. The death recap most likely showed two different people each with a different monster set on. It could have also been a different proc that was actually from a five-piece proc set.

    Overwhelming surge is a five piece set if that perhaps was what was causing confusion as well :blush:.
  • altemriel
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    Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    LegacyDM wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    How good is Overwhelming surge set on magblade? does it proc on all class skills (most of the skills I use are class skills) and does it do damage to more players within the reach or just one?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Overwhelming+Surge+Set

    I'm using it at the moment. It's fun. It procs on all skills 15% chance, no cool down, 12 meter range and effects 1 nearest enemy. Golded out 5th piece bonus does close to 2.4k. Slightly less that grothdarr at 2.5k. I've combined it with grothdarr. When grothdarr and overwhelming proc at same time it melts people. I'm running 5x surge 5x rattkecage 2x grondarr.



    wait wait, how can you combine two pieces of two monster sets, when monster sets come only in helm or shoulders? or am I missing something here :smiley: ?

    I saw lately a death recap in cyro, when I died and there were two monster sets hitting me, so I was wondering, how can one person have 2 monster sets active with the 2nd bonus? So I thought that it was from two people, each of them wearing 2 pieces of a monster set..

    oh and rattlecage, I am farming Vaults of Madness now for this set and also Crypt of Hearts for Lich set, also a nice one, for my magblade. But Rattle, Surge, 2 monster set sound devastating :smiley::smiley: !!

    I gotta try that out :smiley


    oh and that surge, if that would be an aoe, not single target, wow :smiley:
    Monster sets come with a head and shoulder piece, so they are running grothdarr to get the max magicka bonus and the two piece special bonus. The death recap most likely showed two different people each with a different monster set on. It could have also been a different proc that was actually from a five-piece proc set.

    Overwhelming surge is a five piece set if that perhaps was what was causing confusion as well :blush:.



    yes, it was that. two people, two monster sets. :)
  • Jbugz97
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    How good is Overwhelming surge set on magblade? does it proc on all class skills (most of the skills I use are class skills) and does it do damage to more players within the reach or just one?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Overwhelming+Surge+Set

    I'm using it at the moment. It's fun. It procs on all skills 15% chance, no cool down, 12 meter range and effects 1 nearest enemy. Golded out 5th piece bonus does close to 2.4k. Slightly less that grothdarr at 2.5k. I've combined it with grothdarr. When grothdarr and overwhelming proc at same time it melts people. I'm running 5x surge 5x rattkecage 2x grondarr.

    iv had this set on my mind, too test i like the 2-3-4 piece bonus as well but if i run this it would mean farming a sharpened sword which i really don't want to do
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  • altemriel
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    Jbugz97 wrote: »
    LegacyDM wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    How good is Overwhelming surge set on magblade? does it proc on all class skills (most of the skills I use are class skills) and does it do damage to more players within the reach or just one?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Overwhelming+Surge+Set

    I'm using it at the moment. It's fun. It procs on all skills 15% chance, no cool down, 12 meter range and effects 1 nearest enemy. Golded out 5th piece bonus does close to 2.4k. Slightly less that grothdarr at 2.5k. I've combined it with grothdarr. When grothdarr and overwhelming proc at same time it melts people. I'm running 5x surge 5x rattkecage 2x grondarr.

    iv had this set on my mind, too test i like the 2-3-4 piece bonus as well but if i run this it would mean farming a sharpened sword which i really don't want to do



    well you can choose the setup so, that the sword you can do from some crafted set if you like. or farm rattlecage swords :smiley:
  • Jbugz97
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    altemriel wrote: »
    Jbugz97 wrote: »
    LegacyDM wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    How good is Overwhelming surge set on magblade? does it proc on all class skills (most of the skills I use are class skills) and does it do damage to more players within the reach or just one?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Overwhelming+Surge+Set

    I'm using it at the moment. It's fun. It procs on all skills 15% chance, no cool down, 12 meter range and effects 1 nearest enemy. Golded out 5th piece bonus does close to 2.4k. Slightly less that grothdarr at 2.5k. I've combined it with grothdarr. When grothdarr and overwhelming proc at same time it melts people. I'm running 5x surge 5x rattkecage 2x grondarr.

    iv had this set on my mind, too test i like the 2-3-4 piece bonus as well but if i run this it would mean farming a sharpened sword which i really don't want to do



    well you can choose the setup so, that the sword you can do from some crafted set if you like. or farm rattlecage swords :smiley:

    no because i don't want to loose the necro set so what ever set i try will be with the necro on bodies
    i might try necro on ring and neck and weapon and only have necro on front bar but im afraid of trying that the necro on back bar is so help full for shield size i might try it do
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  • PS4_ZeColmeia
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    Jbugz97 wrote: »
    LegacyDM wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    How good is Overwhelming surge set on magblade? does it proc on all class skills (most of the skills I use are class skills) and does it do damage to more players within the reach or just one?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Overwhelming+Surge+Set

    I'm using it at the moment. It's fun. It procs on all skills 15% chance, no cool down, 12 meter range and effects 1 nearest enemy. Golded out 5th piece bonus does close to 2.4k. Slightly less that grothdarr at 2.5k. I've combined it with grothdarr. When grothdarr and overwhelming proc at same time it melts people. I'm running 5x surge 5x rattkecage 2x grondarr.

    iv had this set on my mind, too test i like the 2-3-4 piece bonus as well but if i run this it would mean farming a sharpened sword which i really don't want to do

    I thought about overwhelming surge. As a Khajiit, I think it's a waste because I prefer to optimize around Stygian. This set I think would do well with altmer and dunmer.

    That said I don't see a cool down so depending on if the effects stack, the duration is increase or if the duration is just reset might affect if it's worthwhile, imho, to wear outside of those races.
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  • altemriel
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    PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »
    Jbugz97 wrote: »
    LegacyDM wrote: »
    altemriel wrote: »
    How good is Overwhelming surge set on magblade? does it proc on all class skills (most of the skills I use are class skills) and does it do damage to more players within the reach or just one?

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Overwhelming+Surge+Set

    I'm using it at the moment. It's fun. It procs on all skills 15% chance, no cool down, 12 meter range and effects 1 nearest enemy. Golded out 5th piece bonus does close to 2.4k. Slightly less that grothdarr at 2.5k. I've combined it with grothdarr. When grothdarr and overwhelming proc at same time it melts people. I'm running 5x surge 5x rattkecage 2x grondarr.

    iv had this set on my mind, too test i like the 2-3-4 piece bonus as well but if i run this it would mean farming a sharpened sword which i really don't want to do

    I thought about overwhelming surge. As a Khajiit, I think it's a waste because I prefer to optimize around Stygian. This set I think would do well with altmer and dunmer.

    That said I don't see a cool down so depending on if the effects stack, the duration is increase or if the duration is just reset might affect if it's worthwhile, imho, to wear outside of those races.



    yes, stygian is for gankers, first burst, but I try to play also a bit sustain-y, I will gank with bomber build when I get my Vicious Death set :smiley:

    now I am completing a 5 necropotence, 5 lich setup. necro I have already, lich not all yet. and 2 grothdar
    Edited by altemriel on November 21, 2016 3:37PM
  • CombatPrayer
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    But if proc sets are about to get nerfed then what is the ideal setup?
  • altemriel
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    autumnsongbird wrote: »
    But if proc sets are about to get nerfed then what is the ideal setup?

    wait, who said that they are going to get nerferd, ZOS?

  • psychotic13
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    I've tried a few things, Stygian gives huge stats, but only for 1 attack I don't think it's that good, maybe if it was a light armor set it would be more comparable.

    Also tried Rattlecage, it's not worth it there are better sets. I've gone back to Destro over DW and am using elegance and necropotence with 1pc grothdarr. Skoria is something I may try though, with entropy, reach and crippling Grasp it should proc enough. Though I wish I could perfect the DW but Magicka melee on a NB doesn't seem all that strong to me
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