Really AD?

Diminish · October 2016

Typhoios wrote: »

You are on a different platform than OP. I think OP plays PC/NA. You can cool it with the faction loyalty. The screenshots were of AD PvDooring a map. OP was calling out certain AD players that she can't name and shame, hence AD in the title. Nowhere does she say only AD does this. This is talking about this occurance of what happend in Cyrodiil. It isn't insight about what always happens in Cyrodiil. Your claims of what DC does on PS4 are not relevant, because that is not the same DC or AD players.

OP called out PC/NA AD players by screenshot and calling out their faction because we can't name and shame players on these forums. It isn't about making AD look like a bad guy. It is about calling out certain players. Even if it was, this AD is not your AD so you really shouldn't be offended.

The point of keeps is to have something to fight over and provide objectives. When you take those keeps when you are pop-locked and no one else is, you aren't PvPing. You are PvEing and that isn't what Cyrodiil is about. This isn't a real war. This is a game, and people exploiting numbers advantages makes it a very uncompetitive PvP environment. This kills the game for a lot of people.

Once again. This isn't an issue for me. I don't like seeing it because it is kind of pathetic to take keeps from people when they aren't there, but I'll fight anywhere on the map, I don't really care what color it is.

Yet again, you failed to comprehend my post. This is my last reply to you, or anyone else in this thread. It doesn't matter if I am on the same platform as the OP. The simple fact is, this happens by EVERY alliance, and predominately DC on PS4. Do you see me crying about it on the forums? To call out AD on this no matter what platform, when every damn alliance does this is childish. An objective of PvP is to take keeps. AD steamrolled all the way up to DC's front door on that campaign. Rather than *** about it on the forums, and say it is "unhealthy" for PvP, why not just get a group together to go take the keeps back? What you see in the pictures the OP posted is not the fault of AD. If anything, DC is more to blame. AD was just putting on the pressure. What did you guys want them to do? Stop pushing at Fort Ash, and wait for DC to come running down to them? I bet that would have been fun.

Celas_Dranacea · October 2016

I'm confused- did we not see the same exact thing from DC for long periods last weekend? You guys are strong you should welcome competition.

Telel · October 2016

https://youtu.be/Oz_mWB9TtLo

caeliusstarbreaker · October 2016

In all reality is it a crap situation, sure.
Can you blame them for pvping when others aren't, no.

Drummerx04 · October 2016

Telel wrote: »

https://youtu.be/Oz_mWB9TtLo

Well kudos for using footage from today, I wasn't in cyro at the time, but I recognize the sequence of scroll pickups from frogblast.

The OP's primary point was in the difference in numbers before prime time. Sure, some places were defended by DC and it looked like a lot of DC, but you basically encountered the ENTIRE DC population at that temple and they still didn't have enough to stop you.

You have 20-30 running with the scroll and got attacked by what looked like about 15 DC. You popped open the map and AD was holding DC at Ni-Mohk gate while the large escort stayed with the scroll.

EP was silent even though you had two of their keeps. Why? Probably because you had the people to defend their keeps as well... and tonight, you had enough people to actually defend your last emp keep from two factions at the same time. I don't think I've ever actually seen that happen. TWO factions gave up on a dethrone because it was such a *** show.

Don't get me wrong, your group played pretty well, and I definitely facepalmed while watching some of those DC encounters.

altemriel · October 2016

Drdeath20 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I could name names of the pvdoor heros I am seeing running around in a large group of about 30 bravely fighting DC npc's and the 3-5 DC that are on right now. But I won't. I'm curious if this makes you guys feel really OP, though? What are you saying in your teamspeaks? "Awesome! The map is dead! Let's kill some guards and take some keeps and Scrolls!"

Are you not even bored of this scrub gameplay yet?

What's wrong with this? How are they pvdoor heroes if they are fighting NPCs and taking keeps? I get your frustration but if their are keeps to take, shouldn't people take them?

if you do not like that campaign, go to some other - differently populated

Ghostbane · October 2016

The great thing is, you can grandstand at World Bosses now and hurl shame at all factions for not going into Cyro and defending their keeps.

#1T

Drummerx04 · October 2016

altemriel wrote: »

if you do not like that campaign, go to some other - differently populated

What other campaign do you suggest? Looking through the list of four campaigns I see one that isn't even for vet characters, one with no CP (might be OKAY), and one where freaking keeps aren't worth points. Keeps. The PvP centered, capturable, respawning, transit system and scroll capture points... are worth 0 points.

And on top of that, the populations are often pretty low, so if I want the chance for large scale battles - which personally, I enjoy when they aren't slideshows with bar swapping disabled - then my only real choice is Trueflame.

Ankael07 · October 2016

I dont get it. If a war occurs in real life would you ask your enemy to stop conquering every single place?

fastolfv_ESO · October 2016

gotta use common sense on this one, wednesday at the start of primetime dc ep 2 bars ad locked, thursday dc ep 1 bar ad locked. The only thing in common with both days ad had the entire map with all the scrolls and were camping gates AT primetime to deter anyone from even bothering to enter cyro. It looks like bloody haderus right now, its bad enough im apparently running the last dc guild left who plays at primetime but when you add in every single ad running as a clump of 50+ everywhere just to kill whats left of cyro on the last active campaign pc even has its shameful. Hey if you enjoy pvdooring the entire map have fun but dont expect the last active campaign to just magically spawn more people to fight

Alucardo · October 2016

Taylor_MB · October 2016

Ankael07 wrote: »

I dont get it. If a war occurs in real life would you ask your enemy to stop conquering every single place?

This ain't real life.

kevlarto_ESO · October 2016

All factions do it from time to time, with all the issues we have in pvp I wish this was the only problem we had to deal with, and later in the day the other factions got off their butts and took back most of the map, I still wonder how many players faction hope take the map on one faction then switch and take it back on the other faction, oh well it is what it is.. /shrug

manny254 · October 2016

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

gotta use common sense on this one, wednesday at the start of primetime dc ep 2 bars ad locked, thursday dc ep 1 bar ad locked. The only thing in common with both days ad had the entire map with all the scrolls and were camping gates AT primetime to deter anyone from even bothering to enter cyro.

Wednesday AD had one DC scroll and our own scrolls. Even yesterday we did not have "All the scrolls." I really don't understand why the blame is on AD for having pop in prime time. Shouldn't the complaint be on DC/EP for not having pop in prime time? It is the main server, and as you said prime time. I could understand the complaint if it was during a off time.

I am fairly certain there was no gate camping on Wednesday. I can not comment if there was actual gate camping today as I was taking a Midterm when AD opened the DC gates, but can you blame them for wanting the scrolls right now? It was prime time, and DC does have a score lead. I still personally choose to not push past ASH/BRK. I will mess around up north, and maybe defend Arrius/Glade if it makes sense. Despite this I can understand why the AD would want to try and win the campaign, and primetime pop complaints should be directed at your own factions.

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

It looks like bloody haderus right now, its bad enough im apparently running the last dc guild left who plays at primetime but when you add in every single ad running as a clump of 50+ everywhere just to kill whats left of cyro on the last active campaign pc even has its shameful.

Eh from my perspective I see DC/EP stacking even harder. I really don't understand the argument about a "clump of 50+." We where keeping your raid +pugs tied up at Fare with a group of 7. When we recapped Roe you you also walked in the door with a raid. We had a group of 5 and you killed our only 2 healers when you walked in. We then turned and wiped you with 3 people. So I really don't understand how "every single AD is running in a clump of 50+ just to kill whats lef of cyro." Obviously when multiple raids of both faction are pushing the last EMP keep we are going to end up near each other, but the same could be said for the enemy raids.

What was actually making us effective was the ability for a smaller group to spread out, and support the faction. Until we where pushed to the point only 1 or 2 keeps mattered we where spreading out from Fantasia. On another note I have to say that Fantasia has matured into a very strong guild. From the perspective of another AD they remind me of Decibel right now. On Wednesday I crashed as the final EMP defense started, and I was unable to get back into the game. I was told there was a disgusting amount of EP stacked together. So horrible that Invictus actually walked away because of how bad it was. Fantasia essentially carried that defense. I was able to help much more Thursday, but they where a very big part of the defense.

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

Hey if you enjoy pvdooring the entire map have fun but dont expect the last active campaign to just magically spawn more people to fight

Personally I messed around at Bleakers last night until the pops where more even. This morning Mer and I have just been RP walking around with the Drunk personality. No need to try and punish the players just looking for some PVP action. If you consider RP walking pvdoor I suppose I can't argue with you.

heystreethawk · October 2016

manny254 wrote: »

On another note I have to say that Fantasia has matured into a very strong guild. From the perspective of another AD they remind me of Decibel right now. On Wednesday I crashed as the final EMP defense started, and I was unable to get back into the game. I was told there was a disgusting amount of EP stacked together. So horrible that Invictus actually walked away because of how bad it was. Fantasia essentially carried that defense. I was able to help much more Thursday, but they where a very big part of the defense.

Thank you; that means a lot to us.

DHale · October 2016

The queen is actually Selene and she demands blood for her kind.... she told us to get blood from the pact.

vamp_emily · October 2016

Drdeath20 wrote: »

What's wrong with this? How are they pvdoor heroes if they are fighting NPCs and taking keeps? I get your frustration but if their are keeps to take, shouldn't people take them?

The problem is population balance. ZOS really needs to fix this and also quit letting people flip flop between factions.

Asardes · October 2016

Witches Festival Dominion conspiracy confirmed!

Telel · October 2016

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

https://youtu.be/Oz_mWB9TtLo

Well kudos for using footage from today, I wasn't in cyro at the time, but I recognize the sequence of scroll pickups from frogblast.

The OP's primary point was in the difference in numbers before prime time. Sure, some places were defended by DC and it looked like a lot of DC, but you basically encountered the ENTIRE DC population at that temple and they still didn't have enough to stop you.

You have 20-30 running with the scroll and got attacked by what looked like about 15 DC. You popped open the map and AD was holding DC at Ni-Mohk gate while the large escort stayed with the scroll.

EP was silent even though you had two of their keeps. Why? Probably because you had the people to defend their keeps as well... and tonight, you had enough people to actually defend your last emp keep from two factions at the same time. I don't think I've ever actually seen that happen. TWO factions gave up on a dethrone because it was such a *** show.

Don't get me wrong, your group played pretty well, and I definitely facepalmed while watching some of those DC encounters.

Considering it was khajiit's group that took Rayles, then Glade, pushed the Alma Ruma scroll, and then got Warden going in the time leading up to that clip this one feels that accusations of 'PVDooring' and 'bringing 30 to fight 3-5' required a response. Some people were also elf enough to state that the ones who took those keeps were poor sports.

So here we have the group that took the keeps, and one scroll, not only going up against a good number of defenders, but openly stating that we will not be defending the scroll keeps once we have the scrolls. For you see Telel is indeed a believer in good sportsmanship even if they are the worth NB in the entire game.

You might also notice that the clip begins with us wiping a dozen and more bloops who were trying to attack an otherwise empty keep. Telel is a fan of irony as a comedic device.

As for not seeing the Dumbminion handle two factions before you'll also hear this one mention how 'we're getting purpled so hard later tonight' during the clip. This is because we've become so used to the almost scheduled double teaming that many of us just consider it as something to work around after we return from dinner.

In fact you'll see it occur every night on Trueflame. Usually sometime around 8PM EST though it varies by up to an hour. Once the griffs pop lock, the bloops suddenly get a surge of players. Those players then proceed to push down into the dumbminion keeps and split the area neatly between them in a 'totes not team purple' move.

Lately the bloops will leave Alessia alone as they take everything else because they know that the bridge bums and AP mules won't defend or push anything so long as they have a spawn point. This is the strategy that got the Digdugdug Corpulent its 1300 points lead during the last week with the group bug.

It was also an event that repeatedly led to a handful of Dumbminionites defending or trying to take keeps from dozens of bloops with a paltry handful of players.

And you'll also not see humble khajiit running to the forums to make elf faces over the matter. Unless of course someone elfishly tries to accuse them, and their small group of 'terribad' players of trying to kill the campaign.

Ghostbane · October 2016

tl;dr

"God damnit, people are pvping"

alephthiago · October 2016

Hey OP, please give us your gaming schedule so we can just play when you and your friends are online?

Thank you

KingYogi415 · October 2016

It's almost like they are playing to win.

How weird.

starlizard70ub17_ESO · October 2016

Last night I saw a lot of EP and DC players who usually PvP on Trueflame, sitting around world and delve bosses spawns, farming skulls for hours on end. I was one of the few AD players there. (I have a crafter so I want the new motif). Maybe this is the answer to the low population in Cryodiil for EP and DC. Not that AP had too many players, but that DC and EP players were occupied elsewhere and had too few active players in Cryodiil. I'm sure the Cryodiil population will balance out after the festival ends.

Sunburnt_Penguin · October 2016

lol how is this PvDooring?

It seems as if they've just taken Rayles and the smurph scroll as it's just south of there, whilst other bananas have stayed behind at the gate to stop them chasing the scroll.

manny254 · October 2016

heystreethawk wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

On another note I have to say that Fantasia has matured into a very strong guild. From the perspective of another AD they remind me of Decibel right now. On Wednesday I crashed as the final EMP defense started, and I was unable to get back into the game. I was told there was a disgusting amount of EP stacked together. So horrible that Invictus actually walked away because of how bad it was. Fantasia essentially carried that defense. I was able to help much more Thursday, but they where a very big part of the defense.

Thank you; that means a lot to us.

It is well deserved.

Minno · October 2016

Most of DC is too busy working wayrest patrol duties and taking the ERP to Craglorn due to the influx of dirty elf/drink tourists.

But it's ok. We still won't see DC numbers in cyro since the holiday event now started. Especially with the proc sets this patch, it will take some time for everyone to flood into TF.

Rohamad_Ali · October 2016

Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »

lol how is this PvDooring?

It seems as if they've just taken Rayles and the smurph scroll as it's just south of there, whilst other bananas have stayed behind at the gate to stop them chasing the scroll.

Many people are doing holiday event and gear grinds . This complaint was made while DC is still number one in the campaign . No one should be expecting others to stop pvping until the event and grind is over . TF is the most evenly populated server so it's up to the PvP players to keep playing and maintain number one spot in the campaign .

maxjapank · October 2016

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »

lol how is this PvDooring?

It seems as if they've just taken Rayles and the smurph scroll as it's just south of there, whilst other bananas have stayed behind at the gate to stop them chasing the scroll.

Many people are doing holiday event and gear grinds . This complaint was made while DC is still number one in the campaign . No one should be expecting others to stop pvping until the event and grind is over . TF is the most evenly populated server so it's up to the PvP players to keep playing and maintain number one spot in the campaign .

The complaint was made by one person really who doesn't represent all of DC. People havin fun with all sorts of things as they should. Pvp will pick up sooner or later.

Rohamad_Ali · October 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »

lol how is this PvDooring?

It seems as if they've just taken Rayles and the smurph scroll as it's just south of there, whilst other bananas have stayed behind at the gate to stop them chasing the scroll.

Many people are doing holiday event and gear grinds . This complaint was made while DC is still number one in the campaign . No one should be expecting others to stop pvping until the event and grind is over . TF is the most evenly populated server so it's up to the PvP players to keep playing and maintain number one spot in the campaign .

The complaint was made by one person really who doesn't represent all of DC. People havin fun with all sorts of things as they should. Pvp will pick up sooner or later.

I am realizing that and don't put this on all DC . I've been away grinding too and only PvP a little each day during holiday event . It's just probably the same for EP too right now . This campaign is a little irrelevant to me as it started with one Tamriel launching , had a low pop bug and now witches holiday . Surprised people are still so passionate about this one .

Serjustin19 · October 2016

Magus wrote: »

Apparently they have no interest in grinding the motifs and crap from the festival like EP and DC do lol.

True for me. "If it don't work in Cyrodiil. I won't do it." That's kinda my motto honestly. I just belong in Cyrodiil to be honest. I am also AD.