W0lf_z13 wrote: »

gel214thb14_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

OK, so for the sake of experimenting and comparison, just now I went into Crypt of Hearts 2 on normal and on veteran and ran in to die to the first group of mobs on both.

I made sure that I had no gear equipped for either death so that it would be a fair comparison with no worrying about whether my gear was degraded on one or the other.

And here's the Combat Metrics report for it:

What is Combat MEtrics? How do you get this?

its an add on the measures ur dps ... u can download it by searching for combat metrics addon eso in google

Or search for it on Minion

Tonnopesce wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Mobs are too easy in my opinion.

No no Dracane don't do it... This thread is pretty full of troll already.

Btw, today i've done 10 random pug instance with my level 30 healbot... And guess what? 10/10 completed.
This thread miss so much info imho (players builds, dps info, healer info ecc.) that is really hard to judge.

I would assume most complainers are clueless of game mechanics or efficient build making because i can run most normal dungeon on a pre30 lvl toon without too much issue.

Im not saying its a breeze, it does require thinking and we do wipe sometimes but overall it isnt as bad as people make it sound in this thread...

That or i am a super pro MLG and i never knew it..

Danksta wrote: »

If you're intent is to be a damage dealer then heavy armor is a bad way to go. If you're a tank Skoria is a bad way to go.

Skoria is actually quite viable on a DK Tank. I tank trials all the time. Just saying.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the love of all that is sane, stop giving OP advice or critique directed towards his build. It wasn't his issue/problem. If he says he's happy with it and is doing fine with it (as he said he was, before 1T) then let it be. Most of what I've been reading so far is "you're doing it wrong", "do this", "You are a lousy DPS", a bunch of people trying to push OP into a cookie cutter build that he/she obviously doesn't want. Besides, it's boring to see everyone running the same meta build. Give the game a little variation and let those Differently Geared play in peace.

I find the forums nice but a lot, a lot of the community are way too focused on meta. I've yet to read a thread where no one is suggesting a cookie cutter build but instead says "your build (a really strange one) is not what I'd be using, but if that's how you want to play, then let's discuss how we can optimise it without sacrificing your play style." All this talk about top tier DPS and all that, not everyone is a min/maxer or aiming for competitive PvE.

Now, can we get on with the original issue? I'm actually curious with how broken normal dungeons are compared to vet. And it seems like others on this thread have also experienced this, so it can't just be someone's imagination.

This is a bug. I saw the same thing on the same dungeon. I had no resistance and was getting no critical heals at all. The mobs were hitting me with 10k attacks on normal difficulty. I suspected it was scaling related since one player in the group was level 18. Needless to say, these mobs were near impossible and far harder than any vet dungeon. Played the same dungeon later with CP players and rolled right through it.

czajos wrote: »

What did happen just now?
Just started fungall grotto II randome normal an we just just got wiped out by the first group of mobs...
Im cp lvl 120 full purple with scoria and hevy armour and still get wiped out in seconds

Is this inteded?! Played it yesturday had no problems
this is nonsense...

Maybe not impossible, but for sure the difficulty level of the mobs - their health and hits damage being at least doubled - was increased a lot in random dungeon, if we are unlucky to go with pug for version II. Imho it's way too much for a RANDOM NORMAL, because trash looks to be tougher than in veteran mode, and I'm not queueing for veteran but normal!

Before last changes I had no problem in random normal and veteran, either tanking or healing, but yesterday I also tried Fungal Grotto II in pug, and we all died on first trash mobs. That was a real surprise, but ok I thought it's an accident so we pushed further. Another group of trash and bam, group died. We changed tactic, didn't help much. I admit, healing was bad (and healer was kicked), dd was quite ok even as for 2 archers (I don't like 2 archers in dungeons, my personal feeling), I was doing my best trying to shield everyone sustaining myself etc the usuall way. Another, better, healer came, and again we died on trash. We did first minor boss - quite simple, then another trash and we were wiped double time. I gave up and quit, waste of time, gold and soul gems, to do random normal in pug.

The difficulty for dung version II would be ok if it wasn't in random normal queue - players with lvl 10+ and no CP have to do this hard content? This is a joke. Or a bug which must be repaired.