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Xbox Na Economy is the worst

  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    @zuto40 they will never allow you to buy gold mats with Tel var because you can only gain tel var from a DLC kinda P2W.
    Nah I think we'd be fine. Think of the IC sets like black rose, the trophies for willpower, agility and endurance, and the hakeijo runes. Those are, for the most part, locked behind the dlc, but it's like this because all of it can be sold/traded.
    GDOFWR420 wrote: »
    zuto40 wrote: »
    also wheres my damn 4th star
    GDOFWR420 wrote: »
    GDOFWR420 wrote: »
    Omg plz give me everthing i need to win and be the best at this game, i mean why should i have to grind and level my characters and farm matz they should just give them to me. We should all have the same stats same gear and no one should be able to make their own prices, god anything but that.

    Millenials make me sick, oh give me this give me that, you are not entitled to anything you didnt work for. So thanks for whinning and shut up

    There's no possible way you could sound more like you're 137 years old.

    32 to be exact and i worked for all i have i didnt cry and whine and ask to have everything handed to me like you crybabys of today. So just keep sucking your thumbs. Biggest bunch of babys the world has ever seen.

    So if we're playing the generation game, thanks for screwing up the world for my generation and any future ones, now go smoke some weed in your single bedroom apartment alone Mr 420

    Your right maybe us as parents should have beat a lttle sense into you, and you wouldnt be the smart*** know it all generation.

    Edited: and just what are you doing to fix the world cause playing eso isnt helping anyone. And the world was lost long before i was born. So pin you sense of failure in the world on someone else
    Just stop. You're making yourself sound like some condescending, self-proclaimed hero of the world who is 80 years old one second, then like an immature five year old the next. In both instances, you should act your age and quit being so obnoxiously rude.

    If you can't see that the market is crap right now, I'm going to say you're clueless and blind or in on it. Thousands of gold mats were obtained by exploits and instead of those items getting eliminated, they remained in game, along with the exploiters. So what do we have? Rich no-lives sitting on more gold mats than anyone could dream of with the ability to screw over the market for people who are just trying to get a weapon upgraded.

    I would also like to let you know that buying gold mats (with AP, tel-var, or gold) completely negates your "entitlement" theory. Players would have to farm for each of these methods...and sorry but tel-var farming has more risk than running laps around mountains in pve. We would also lose out on the refined materials and other coloured tempers by purchasing just gold mats, so drawbacks would exist.

    And of course "typical" farming is an option, but with the low drop rates, it can take days to get the amount needed. Not everyone just sits in their mother's basement having all the play-time in the world you know. Some of us actually want to play the game with what little time we have in the day.

    Edited by Stoopid_Nwah on September 13, 2016 3:34PM
  • Cryptical
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    And of course "typical" farming is an option, but with the low drop rates, it can take days to get the amount needed. Not everyone just sits in their mother's basement having all the play-time in the world you know. Some of us actually want to play the game with what little time we have in the day.
    I recall the guildmate who wasnt old enough to buy ESO on his own, was spending his last summer after high school graduation at 12plus hours playing daily, and thought that his mag-sorc overload build made him superior to we 40/50/60 year olds who have incomes to make and bills to pay.
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  • thankyourat
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    On the bright side I just made around 200k selling 12 temps lol. I i kind of feel bad for people who need them for their builds the prices are outrageous.
  • alexkdd99
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    Roogen wrote: »
    Xbox Na economy is BS, and the whole "Go farm the mats yourself then!" Answer people keep giving is just bs. Traders are their for when you need something you can't get or don't have time to farm. OP Clearly doesn't need your opinions on how ya feel about the younger generation or how to grind a month worth of mats to refine and upgrade 1 damn set.

    The trader are being controlled by a small group of players and is getting ridiculous. You even hear them talking in game chat that their buying all mats, you just go to them, trade and say the price. All day in Stormhaven just buying everything they can get their hands on. As soon as mondays rolls through priced get jacked even higher. The entire player base should be running the economy, not 1-2 guilds.

    Is not only mats either, this weekend alone Agility Robust rings went up from 35-40k each to 120k minimum. Viper weapons are 350k minimum on sharpened and the shields on any traits can't find anything less than 500k. This kills any new player that gets to 160CP and wants to try out builds. Not everyone can farm for countless hours to get a few items they need, some people just don't got the time. Trader is their for that same reason.

    Can people please stop with this. Yes a group can go buy everything and charge more, but the prices are back down in a week or two.

    Agility robust rings were never below 75k consistently(atleast not with in last 6 months), you might have found one from someone who didn't know better but that has not been the going rate.
    You want the best trait on items you will either pay for it or put in the time.

    So because you don't have time to grind for items the people who do spend time should just give them away? People can buy and sell for whatever they want it is their choice.

    1-2 guilds can only maintain those prices for a week or two before the countless other guilds drive the price back down through under cutting each other.

    I am just one person and don't collaborate with anyone else and have not even been putting in but 3-4 hours a week farming and am consistently making roughly 500k a week.

    Can we please stop complaining? Was it fair for pc players to be able to bring that much gold over? No. But it is done and nothing can be done about it now so get over it and forge your own way.
    Don't have time to farm then you pay the price whatever that price may be.
    Edited by alexkdd99 on September 13, 2016 6:13PM
  • alexkdd99
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    Lumenn wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Why not just let us use gold to buy these from an NPC vendor? This problem is there on PS4 too, just relatively to a lesser extent.

    If they let us buy gold mats from an NPC vendor (even if it's only on weekends from the Golden guy in Cyrodiil), it'll at least price fix the mats.

    Cause then if you try and sell em for more than the vendor price, no one would buy it from you..

    This is the best idea BY FAR. A global auction house would result in an even worse situation because the power buyers wouldn't have to bother to look around for random low handing fruit.

    But ... if there was an NPC vendor who sold tempering allows for, say, 10k each, the power buyers would be SOL.

    Actually the best idea I ever heard(on another thread) was to make anything you buy from a trader non saleable. Could still sell farmed items/drops but couldn't corner the market by buying low and selling high. But for some, that IS the game and I suppose that would ruin their enjoyment.

    No way. As you have said that would ruin part of the game for people who like looking for those good deals. I personally don't partake in the gold upgrade mats but I do love finding good deals on certain set pieces and selling for profit. I find enjoyment from searching for those good deals. If this were implemented I would more than likely move on, more restrictions are often times not very good ideas.

    Also selling gold upgrade mats in npc is pushing it we already have potency runes at vendor.

    As many have said it is all supply and demand, and the prices will eventually equalize to whatever the economy dictates. If people continue paying than the price will continue rising, but when they stop buying the price will start dropping.
  • BlazingDynamo
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    i always have to laugh when i see posts like this the economy dont matter go grind the mats it really doesnt take long to get yaself enough temps and dreugh to fully legendary a suit (tanks dont need to go legendary other than the shield if u spent cp right) this is just anouther post from the entitlement generation ... u think the grind for temps/dreugh is bad u clearly never played swg and ground out jedi now that was a grind that could take 7-8 months of 5 hour days to get....

    ultimately if thats what it cost and im guessing you being the entitlement generation then thats what u have to pay .. get over yourself go put in some work or pay the price


    u want to know a tip here it is last week i respeced 11 of my toons to have 0 crafting the 12 was full i spend the entire week running just lvl 1 writs ... yest i turned all those writ maps in ended up with about 1k of each mat ore jute maple .. refined them this is what i got 14 dreugh 17 temps 12 rosins

    so what took 7 hours of work total including doing the writs earned me a rather epic sum of gold .. 48k a day from the writs (all my toons are cp capped)

    not to mention the money selling the legendary earned me ...


    and befor u moan about 12 toons etc etc it took me a total of 75 hours to lvl those 12 toons to endgame so head to wrothgar public dungeons befor it gets nerfed in the next update

    What seems to never get mentioned is when you go to grind those mats yourself there's about a dozen asian gold farmers running rampage on the area. Makes it impossible to farm your own mats. These gold farmers sell the raw mats cheap to the big money ballers and they sell the gold mats at high prices. This is the real problem.
  • GDOFWR420
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    God this is still going on? I must have really hit a sore spot with you guys, and prune juice now thats funny considering im 32 and your coming up right behind me. We all get old only difference is some of us get wiser. So just enjoy being young and living cause you to will get old and die just like the rest of humanity.
  • Calboy
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    People are forgetting that this is GAME. I don't play eso as a chore, I play for fun after a full days commitments. But it gets harder and harder to log on and have fun when people are buying all the tempers and charging 30k for them. And people on here casually are like oh it's inflation lol live with it stop being entitled bla bla bla. No this isn't inflation, it's people with no real life anything holding the monopoly and charging everyone far far far too much for things. All it will achieve is a huge wallet and a gradual population decline.
  • alexkdd99
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    Calboy wrote: »
    People are forgetting that this is GAME. I don't play eso as a chore, I play for fun after a full days commitments. But it gets harder and harder to log on and have fun when people are buying all the tempers and charging 30k for them. And people on here casually are like oh it's inflation lol live with it stop being entitled bla bla bla. No this isn't inflation, it's people with no real life anything holding the monopoly and charging everyone far far far too much for things. All it will achieve is a huge wallet and a gradual population decline.

    Not this again. Anytime anything happens that people don't agree with the game is all of a sudden going to die.
    I think most have done this including myself but in reality that is not going to happen.

    So since you play this as a game and don't consider farming to be part of the game that things should just be handed to you? You as a single player can choose what they do with their in game time just as everyone else can to. Just because you consider farming a chore does not mean everyone else does as well.
    As long as people are buying people will continue selling for whatever people buy them for.

    Who is to say what is to much? The player base as a whole decides what is to much, not you or me alone.

    Nobody forces you to upgrade your items, nobody forces you to buy or farm your gold mats.
    Just because you don't enjoy part of the game does not mean others don't as well.
  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    Cryptical wrote: »
    And of course "typical" farming is an option, but with the low drop rates, it can take days to get the amount needed. Not everyone just sits in their mother's basement having all the play-time in the world you know. Some of us actually want to play the game with what little time we have in the day.
    I recall the guildmate who wasnt old enough to buy ESO on his own, was spending his last summer after high school graduation at 12plus hours playing daily, and thought that his mag-sorc overload build made him superior to we 40/50/60 year olds who have incomes to make and bills to pay.
    And that's the thing, I could say I recall members in some guilds that were 60+, retired and spending that same 12+ hours per day on the game, but it doesn't change the fact of the matter: some people have a ton of time in game, others don't. Adding in a system that allows gold mats to be purchased benefits everyone, with the exception of those who are sitting on thousands of mats and driving up prices. It would help out the market quite a bit, farmers who enjoy it can still farm away, pvpers can spend more time in Cyrodiil, pvers can quest, run trials, and go through dungeons.

    Even if you wanted to farm right now/had the time to, good luck. So many people are running around farming all day, every day. The prices have been on a steady incline since launch, the richer have only been getting richer, guild collusion is beyond obvious, exploited mats are still in this game in insane amounts, the gold mat drop rates are crap...it's just all making eso feel a lot more like a chore and a lot less like a game.

    And for anyone who says gold mats aren't needed, look at the weapon/spell damage increases from purple to gold weapons, then get back to me on that.
  • alexkdd99
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    Cryptical wrote: »
    And of course "typical" farming is an option, but with the low drop rates, it can take days to get the amount needed. Not everyone just sits in their mother's basement having all the play-time in the world you know. Some of us actually want to play the game with what little time we have in the day.
    I recall the guildmate who wasnt old enough to buy ESO on his own, was spending his last summer after high school graduation at 12plus hours playing daily, and thought that his mag-sorc overload build made him superior to we 40/50/60 year olds who have incomes to make and bills to pay.
    And that's the thing, I could say I recall members in some guilds that were 60+, retired and spending that same 12+ hours per day on the game, but it doesn't change the fact of the matter: some people have a ton of time in game, others don't. Adding in a system that allows gold mats to be purchased benefits everyone, with the exception of those who are sitting on thousands of mats and driving up prices. It would help out the market quite a bit, farmers who enjoy it can still farm away, pvpers can spend more time in Cyrodiil, pvers can quest, run trials, and go through dungeons.

    Even if you wanted to farm right now/had the time to, good luck. So many people are running around farming all day, every day. The prices have been on a steady incline since launch, the richer have only been getting richer, guild collusion is beyond obvious, exploited mats are still in this game in insane amounts, the gold mat drop rates are crap...it's just all making eso feel a lot more like a chore and a lot less like a game.

    And for anyone who says gold mats aren't needed, look at the weapon/spell damage increases from purple to gold weapons, then get back to me on that.

    So all you really need to upgrade to gold is weapons, is what you are really saying.
    And adding gold upgrade mats to npc would be trashing the time people spent amassing loads of upgrade mats. Also gold upgrade mats are a major part of eso's economy and providing them dirt cheap would definitely tank a good portion of the games economy.

    I am not agreeing on how people are using material gained thorough exploits as that is solely on zos for allowing people who exploited to keep their ill gotten gains.
    As for everyone else though, they should be able to sell for whatever people are willing to buy them for as they put in the time to either farm the mats or amass the gold to purchase them.

    Like I just commented to someone else, just because farming is a chore to you does not mean it is a chore to everyone.
  • Calboy
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    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    Calboy wrote: »
    People are forgetting that this is GAME. I don't play eso as a chore, I play for fun after a full days commitments. But it gets harder and harder to log on and have fun when people are buying all the tempers and charging 30k for them. And people on here casually are like oh it's inflation lol live with it stop being entitled bla bla bla. No this isn't inflation, it's people with no real life anything holding the monopoly and charging everyone far far far too much for things. All it will achieve is a huge wallet and a gradual population decline.

    Not this again. Anytime anything happens that people don't agree with the game is all of a sudden going to die.
    I think most have done this including myself but in reality that is not going to happen.

    So since you play this as a game and don't consider farming to be part of the game that things should just be handed to you? You as a single player can choose what they do with their in game time just as everyone else can to. Just because you consider farming a chore does not mean everyone else does as well.
    As long as people are buying people will continue selling for whatever people buy them for.

    Who is to say what is to much? The player base as a whole decides what is to much, not you or me alone.

    Nobody forces you to upgrade your items, nobody forces you to buy or farm your gold mats.
    Just because you don't enjoy part of the game does not mean others don't as well.

    No farming is not fun. Farming is something that young people do because they have all the time in the world and when they are done farming then they continue onto the fun parts parts of the game. I do not play this game to 'farm' yet there is no competitive alternative in this game to progress and keep up with they constant addition of sets in this game that are getting more and more ridiculous.

    Also I never said the game would die, you put those words in my mouth. However I play in the oceanic timezone and because of the lower population there I can easily notice the population declining because some nights the pvp is non existent and there are very few people in the main hubs compared to recent months.
  • neville_bart0s
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    i always have to laugh when i see posts like this the economy dont matter go grind the mats it really doesnt take long to get yaself enough temps and dreugh to fully legendary a suit (tanks dont need to go legendary other than the shield if u spent cp right) this is just anouther post from the entitlement generation ... u think the grind for temps/dreugh is bad u clearly never played swg and ground out jedi now that was a grind that could take 7-8 months of 5 hour days to get....

    ultimately if thats what it cost and im guessing you being the entitlement generation then thats what u have to pay .. get over yourself go put in some work or pay the price


    u want to know a tip here it is last week i respeced 11 of my toons to have 0 crafting the 12 was full i spend the entire week running just lvl 1 writs ... yest i turned all those writ maps in ended up with about 1k of each mat ore jute maple .. refined them this is what i got 14 dreugh 17 temps 12 rosins

    so what took 7 hours of work total including doing the writs earned me a rather epic sum of gold .. 48k a day from the writs (all my toons are cp capped)

    not to mention the money selling the legendary earned me ...


    and befor u moan about 12 toons etc etc it took me a total of 75 hours to lvl those 12 toons to endgame so head to wrothgar public dungeons befor it gets nerfed in the next update

    What seems to never get mentioned is when you go to grind those mats yourself there's about a dozen asian gold farmers running rampage on the area. Makes it impossible to farm your own mats. These gold farmers sell the raw mats cheap to the big money ballers and they sell the gold mats at high prices. This is the real problem.


    Asian gold farmers?? im curious now, tell me about these Asian gold farmers
  • Shad0wfire99
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    GDOFWR420 wrote: »
    God this is still going on? I must have really hit a sore spot with you guys, and prune juice now thats funny considering im 32 and your coming up right behind me. We all get old only difference is some of us get wiser. So just enjoy being young and living cause you to will get old and die just like the rest of humanity.

    Yeah, sure. It's all about you.


    XBox NA
  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    Cryptical wrote: »
    And of course "typical" farming is an option, but with the low drop rates, it can take days to get the amount needed. Not everyone just sits in their mother's basement having all the play-time in the world you know. Some of us actually want to play the game with what little time we have in the day.
    I recall the guildmate who wasnt old enough to buy ESO on his own, was spending his last summer after high school graduation at 12plus hours playing daily, and thought that his mag-sorc overload build made him superior to we 40/50/60 year olds who have incomes to make and bills to pay.
    And that's the thing, I could say I recall members in some guilds that were 60+, retired and spending that same 12+ hours per day on the game, but it doesn't change the fact of the matter: some people have a ton of time in game, others don't. Adding in a system that allows gold mats to be purchased benefits everyone, with the exception of those who are sitting on thousands of mats and driving up prices. It would help out the market quite a bit, farmers who enjoy it can still farm away, pvpers can spend more time in Cyrodiil, pvers can quest, run trials, and go through dungeons.

    Even if you wanted to farm right now/had the time to, good luck. So many people are running around farming all day, every day. The prices have been on a steady incline since launch, the richer have only been getting richer, guild collusion is beyond obvious, exploited mats are still in this game in insane amounts, the gold mat drop rates are crap...it's just all making eso feel a lot more like a chore and a lot less like a game.

    And for anyone who says gold mats aren't needed, look at the weapon/spell damage increases from purple to gold weapons, then get back to me on that.

    So all you really need to upgrade to gold is weapons, is what you are really saying.
    And adding gold upgrade mats to npc would be trashing the time people spent amassing loads of upgrade mats. Also gold upgrade mats are a major part of eso's economy and providing them dirt cheap would definitely tank a good portion of the games economy.

    I am not agreeing on how people are using material gained thorough exploits as that is solely on zos for allowing people who exploited to keep their ill gotten gains.
    As for everyone else though, they should be able to sell for whatever people are willing to buy them for as they put in the time to either farm the mats or amass the gold to purchase them.

    Like I just commented to someone else, just because farming is a chore to you does not mean it is a chore to everyone.
    Imo, it's the only gold upgrade that I actually care about and think is 100% worth it (aside from enchants). Who said they would be dirt cheap? You're pulling that out of thin air. Knowing zos, if this were implemented, they would price them at 20k :expressionless:.

    My issue is that there are those who are beyond rich in the game and have thousands of gold mats gained from exploits, and this ruins the economy for the players who don't stoop to those levels. So a more casual player/newer player who wants to gold out their weapons and be competitive gets the short end of the stick. I know it makes me feel like an idiot for not exploiting with the pig farm and survey glitches.

    I actually enjoy farming from time to time, but I am thinking of instances like when I got the Maelstrom staff I needed from the last chest, wanted to gold it out so I could run dps for the trial my guild was about to run and then later on try it in pvp, but I had only 2 rosin. So my options were...pay outrageous prices/rosin or go farm for hours missing the trial run AND losing out on PVP time?

    It sounds more like the people against this idea are those that wish to rip-off others. And I can't blame that line of thought (heck I'd love to sell stacks of tempering alloys and make bank). But it's turning the community into some toxic greed pit, and that is exhausting to see/deal with. I'd be fine if they implemented the system and priced the mats at what I would consider to still be high: Temps for 15k, rosin for 9k, wax for 7k (not sure what would be a fair AP and tel-var price).

    Then farmers can still make a profit off gold mats by selling just a bit lower than the above prices, they can farm in pve or by playing in Cyrodiil or IC, and it will prevent this extreme incline from continuing. And sorry, but as it is, I don't see the incline stopping anytime soon unless something does change like the implementation of a system like this. Gold mats are being bought by those with millions just to monopolize it...it doesn't look like they'll be running out of gold to do this anytime soon.
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    Asian gold farmers?? im curious now, tell me about these Asian gold farmers
    Just look around for bots. Look in the right places: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281226/looks-like-bots#
    Edited by Cryptical on September 13, 2016 9:19PM
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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Well at least people aren't paying guilds from other Alliances 500k to tank for Emp.

    Oh, wait.
  • GDOFWR420
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    Well i put up 26 temps for 20k and sure enough some one bought them except 2 and the ones priced higher than mine. Good time to make gold.
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    There should be a cap on what items can be sold for, period!
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    Xbox EU - CP400+

  • Jaronking
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    GDOFWR420 wrote: »
    Well i put up 26 temps for 20k and sure enough some one bought them except 2 and the ones priced higher than mine. Good time to make gold.
    Wait so you tell me you made 480k congrats.
  • GDOFWR420
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    Put 14 more up and now there all gone. Whew someone has a huge amount of gold.
  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    Well at least people aren't paying guilds from other Alliances 500k to tank for Emp.

    Oh, wait.
    Now now, Cyrodiil is a magical place where everyone plays fair, earns achievements through hard work and skill, and shows great sportsmanship.
  • GDOFWR420
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    GDOFWR420 wrote: »
    Well i put up 26 temps for 20k and sure enough some one bought them except 2 and the ones priced higher than mine. Good time to make gold.
    Wait so you tell me you made 480k congrats.

    Yea it blew my mind. And thanks
  • Ron_Burgundy_79
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    GDOFWR420 wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    GDOFWR420 wrote: »
    Well i put up 26 temps for 20k and sure enough some one bought them except 2 and the ones priced higher than mine. Good time to make gold.
    Wait so you tell me you made 480k congrats.

    Yea it blew my mind. And thanks

    Congrats. Hope that helps you with your farming build.
  • BlazingDynamo
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    i always have to laugh when i see posts like this the economy dont matter go grind the mats it really doesnt take long to get yaself enough temps and dreugh to fully legendary a suit (tanks dont need to go legendary other than the shield if u spent cp right) this is just anouther post from the entitlement generation ... u think the grind for temps/dreugh is bad u clearly never played swg and ground out jedi now that was a grind that could take 7-8 months of 5 hour days to get....

    ultimately if thats what it cost and im guessing you being the entitlement generation then thats what u have to pay .. get over yourself go put in some work or pay the price


    u want to know a tip here it is last week i respeced 11 of my toons to have 0 crafting the 12 was full i spend the entire week running just lvl 1 writs ... yest i turned all those writ maps in ended up with about 1k of each mat ore jute maple .. refined them this is what i got 14 dreugh 17 temps 12 rosins

    so what took 7 hours of work total including doing the writs earned me a rather epic sum of gold .. 48k a day from the writs (all my toons are cp capped)

    not to mention the money selling the legendary earned me ...


    and befor u moan about 12 toons etc etc it took me a total of 75 hours to lvl those 12 toons to endgame so head to wrothgar public dungeons befor it gets nerfed in the next update

    What seems to never get mentioned is when you go to grind those mats yourself there's about a dozen asian gold farmers running rampage on the area. Makes it impossible to farm your own mats. These gold farmers sell the raw mats cheap to the big money ballers and they sell the gold mats at high prices. This is the real problem.


    Asian gold farmers?? im curious now, tell me about these Asian gold farmers

    Message any low lvl CP running around with rapids on taking every node in sight and they message you back in chinese.
  • FearlessOne_2014
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    zuto40 wrote: »
    i always have to laugh when i see posts like this the economy dont matter go grind the mats it really doesnt take long to get yaself enough temps and dreugh to fully legendary a suit (tanks dont need to go legendary other than the shield if u spent cp right) this is just anouther post from the entitlement generation ... u think the grind for temps/dreugh is bad u clearly never played swg and ground out jedi now that was a grind that could take 7-8 months of 5 hour days to get....

    ultimately if thats what it cost and im guessing you being the entitlement generation then thats what u have to pay .. get over yourself go put in some work or pay the price

    Hey look everyone someone using the age card again, alright buddy lemme say a few things

    1: selling them for tel var still requires grinding

    2: I played a game called pirate101 you may have heard of it before and might think that's a children's game, your not wrong but the bis gear for that game requires way more grinding then any game you've played, getting top gear took my clan(Undefeated CvC record) over 2 years of playing 12 hours a day, even still after a year of farming I have yet to get shoshos kit, an item locked behind a half hour dungeon with a loot table diluted by 100's of other items, every loot table is diluted like that. Did I mention this bis gear is only wearable by 1 class, there are 5, I know a grind thank you very much

    3: I'm assuming you're apart of another generation so yes call me the entitlement generation, it's not like your generation helped **** over the world

    No their generation sold out our generation, and killed this planet, for their good life. THE NERVE OF THOSE *** FOR TALKING DOWN TO US. If I had it my way they all would be taking care off in the most painfulness of ways, for not only their selfish crimes against humanity, but also their crimes against the planet and eco systems as well.

    I now digress.

    But to stay on topic. Yeah I agree ZOS should do something for you guys. That makes no sense. I've notice a climb in PC's prices as well. But also I notice a few ninja nerfs to the drop rates of purple and yellow mats. I've personally noticed at least a %30 decrease in the drop rate of purple and yellow mats, since 3 or 4 months ago.
  • Destyran
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    Look i have 8 toons 4 of them have multiple full gold gear full gold enchants and as much as i hate this endless grind between pvp for a cool rank or dye and AP for certain sets and maelstrom for that ever elusive destro staff. I have to say i really hate grinding gold mats and alchemy mats. But i have no choice as i have been perpetually broke simce the launch of this game i have 670 cp too because i grinded all my toons in the vet system. Really wish i just sat back and made a buttload of gold then used the cp catch up. Bit if i can make 9 sets gold then i guess so can you if you want it hard enough it will come its a video game after all.
    Edited by Destyran on September 14, 2016 11:12AM
  • phaseadept
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    The simple solution is for ZOS to increase the drop rates on gold improvement items.

    The drop rates have been nerfed, the writs have been nerfed. . . so either ZOS doesn't want people to have gold gear, or one of them has a trader in Rawl'ka
  • GDOFWR420
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    GDOFWR420 wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    GDOFWR420 wrote: »
    Well i put up 26 temps for 20k and sure enough some one bought them except 2 and the ones priced higher than mine. Good time to make gold.
    Wait so you tell me you made 480k congrats.

    Yea it blew my mind. And thanks

    Congrats. Hope that helps you with your farming build.

    Try again trolly
  • GDOFWR420
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    Ill also enjoy all the gold im making
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