ZOS I don't get your ban level system?

redspecter23 · August 2016

Sandman929 wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Doesn't matter when they knew about it. Doesn't matter if they released it broken. None of the whining matters if you get banned for behavior that you know could get you banned.
Just don't do it.

It's just that simple.

So if I accidentally gap close into a keep one time by misclicking, a permaban is ok?

Again, strawman extrapolation of what is happening.

You are not going to be permabanned for gap closing into a keep. They don't even know you do it, you have to be recorded and then submitted to ZOS before they even can act on it.

There is not one person here who I will legitimately believe 'accidentally' gets inside a keep by using broken code, then LEAVES or DIES will be banned.

It just won't happen.

No, what happens is this:

Click gap closer, accidentally get inside keep.

oooooh, well I'm here anyway, let me go ahead and set up siege, kill all the npcs, maybe farm some lowbies.

I mean, its ZOS fault I'm in here right, I didn't do anything wrong, so everything I do that is against the rules now is negated by the fact that the initial rule breaking was accidental.

I'm tired of the exploitative people saying they are getting banned for accidentally clicking a gap closer.

You aren't, and if you say you are, then you either are seriously delusional, or lying.

You claim nobody is getting permabanned for a misclick. If that's true, then there is no problem. I know of multiple people that have been permabanned lately. No reasons are given by ZoS. No appeals are allowed. Just permaban. I can't say for sure if they are innocent, but they have no idea what they did that resulted in a permaban. These things are happening whether you see them or not.

If I had to guess I'd say someone reported those multiple people accompanied by video evidence of behavior that ZOS thought warranted a ban. But if you're waiting for them to cop to the behavior and admit that they did something deserving of the punishment, you might want to take a chair.

All I know is these people are known to me as good honest people. If they did do some sort of exploit, they would have no issue admitting to it after a permaban through teamspeak. They quite honestly have no idea what they did for a permaban and ZoS will not tell them either. That's a scary thought. It can happen to anyone, anytime. No reasons given. No appeals. One day it could be any of us.

Sandman929 · August 2016

(Cue ominous music)

Armitas · August 2016

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Who cares, its an online video game. You already know who they are so why do you care? People since forever have cheated. School exams, sports, games, children's party magicians, etc. I'd rather have them around so I can create stories.

^ Confirmed user of performance enhancing yogurts.

Kalebron · August 2016

SirAndy wrote: »

1. Paragraphs save posts.
2. If you put on a new set of armor and you suddenly pull 100k+ DPS and you keep playing with that setup, the consequences of your actions is 100% on you.

Doesn't matter how that armor set got bugged. You're knowingly exploiting an in-game bug.

But it would be my set until they remove it from use, the game makers made it and have not fixed it, so if I had one I would use it to the fullest. If I got banned due to using it, I would find another game. Zos has the ability to temporarily stop the use of a gear set. Lines have been blurred when it comes to exploiting/cheating. IMO, animation canceled is an exploit that seems to okay with ZOS and others and was never actually intended, but allowed. I am assuming one of two things: it was allowed because to fix it would cause too many problems or they did not see it as a big deal. Sometimes a person lagging is difficult to kill because I cannot target them and I die. It is an unintended exploit and happens all the time. What is the difference. This is just a simple play on semantics and personal opinion.

Sandman929 · August 2016

Kalebron wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

1. Paragraphs save posts.
2. If you put on a new set of armor and you suddenly pull 100k+ DPS and you keep playing with that setup, the consequences of your actions is 100% on you.

Doesn't matter how that armor set got bugged. You're knowingly exploiting an in-game bug.

But it would be my set until they remove it from use, the game makers made it and have not fixed it, so if I had one I would use it to the fullest. If I got banned due to using it, I would find another game. Zos has the ability to temporarily stop the use of a gear set. Lines have been blurred when it comes to exploiting/cheating. IMO, animation canceled is an exploit that seems to okay with ZOS and others and was never actually intended, but allowed. I am assuming one of two things: it was allowed because to fix it would cause too many problems or they did not see it as a big deal. Sometimes a person lagging is difficult to kill because I cannot target them and I die. It is an unintended exploit and happens all the time. What is the difference. This is just a simple play on semantics and personal opinion.

It is opinion, and the only opinion that matters is the opinion of people that can ban you from the game. So far those people have made a short list of things they'll ban you for doing.

antihero727 · August 2016

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Sandman929 wrote: »

Kalebron wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

1. Paragraphs save posts.
2. If you put on a new set of armor and you suddenly pull 100k+ DPS and you keep playing with that setup, the consequences of your actions is 100% on you.

Doesn't matter how that armor set got bugged. You're knowingly exploiting an in-game bug.

But it would be my set until they remove it from use, the game makers made it and have not fixed it, so if I had one I would use it to the fullest. If I got banned due to using it, I would find another game. Zos has the ability to temporarily stop the use of a gear set. Lines have been blurred when it comes to exploiting/cheating. IMO, animation canceled is an exploit that seems to okay with ZOS and others and was never actually intended, but allowed. I am assuming one of two things: it was allowed because to fix it would cause too many problems or they did not see it as a big deal. Sometimes a person lagging is difficult to kill because I cannot target them and I die. It is an unintended exploit and happens all the time. What is the difference. This is just a simple play on semantics and personal opinion.

It is opinion, and the only opinion that matters is the opinion of people that can ban you from the game. So far those people have made a short list of things they'll ban you for doing.

If ZOS's opinion is the only one that matters, Vivic help us all.

Darnathian · August 2016

Mustard wrote: »

It's simple. You use cheat engine and then call into support like German did to get someone to relate to you....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X159ibyyiA&feature=share

Then have Jules laugh about how they got away it and tell people to learn 2 play on the forums.

antihero727 · August 2016

Sad thing is 2 of the exploiters that got banned sent bug reports in during PTS and live about salvation set. They were both sick of game breaking bugs getting to live even though ZOS knew about it. We knew about this long before the fourm post. ZOS fixed it fast enough to on live when people sent in screenshots of being one shot. It was not very hard to fix apparently. It's a sad state of affairs when people have to sucide bomb their accounts to get ZOS to fix the big exploits instead of trying to hide them. This is when the state of the game seems 3rd world.

Publius_Scipio · August 2016

I don't know about you guy, but I personally can't wait for the Vvardenfell DLC.

Armitas · August 2016

antihero727 wrote: »

Sad thing is 2 of the exploiters that got banned sent bug reports in during PTS and live about salvation set. They were both sick of game breaking bugs getting to live even though ZOS knew about it. We knew about this long before the fourm post. ZOS fixed it fast enough to on live when people sent in screenshots of being one shot. It was not very hard to fix apparently. It's a sad state of affairs when people have to sucide bomb their accounts to get ZOS to fix the big exploits instead of trying to hide them. This is when the state of the game seems 3rd world.

Getting anything fixed for PvP in the game seems to take a blood sacrifice.

ZOS_DaryaK · August 2016

As predicted, this thread has been closed due to the discussion of disciplinary action and exploits. You should use this thread to discuss exploits and cheating.

Player can appeal disciplinary action by submitting a ticket.