I think the most accepted "Macro" that has to be in play by ALL competitive PVPer's is CC break. Bam! ,hit one button and on with your CC immunity for 8 seconds. I suck at cc in the middle of battle admittedly and don't have a programmable keyboard so get stuck all the time in CC far too long lol.
Tonnopesce wrote: »Tons of heavy armored s&b dk's use macros for " light attack => puncture => bash => reverberating bash => block " tipe of combo and is funny how all this people pass the anti cheat without issues even if is a 1 second combo.
Yeah.. this is the kind of thing I'm suspicious of. There are so many little combos in the game that you could easily setup in a one-key macro. I'm sure there are players out there doing it.
Daemons_Bane wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »People use macros all of the time, the same people have been doing so for ages, and nothing will change.
Pretty useless answers.. That idiots/cheaters have been doing it for long, will never make it okay.. Macros are not allowed
I don't care how well you set up a macro, you can't do anything faster than the animation system allows. Even with animation canceling, you can not fit a large amount of abilities into a small time frame. You can use a basic weapon attack, an ability, a roll dodge, a bash and an ultimate all into one "animation window". No macro can overcome that without some sort of cheat program. Macroing is pointless and detrimental (it doesn't work well, especially with any lag) to your game play. If you think someone is pulling off four of a single ability (Surprise Attack) within one second, it has nothing to do with macros. They're hacking.
Macros are fine, use them or don't...I really don't care.
Tonnopesce wrote: »Tons of heavy armored s&b dk's use macros for " light attack => puncture => bash => reverberating bash => block " tipe of combo and is funny how all this people pass the anti cheat without issues even if is a 1 second combo.
Yeah.. this is the kind of thing I'm suspicious of. There are so many little combos in the game that you could easily setup in a one-key macro. I'm sure there are players out there doing it.
Example: ive seen a stam dk few weeks ago in safezone IC, spamming that combo for over 3 hours , obv he was afk and didnt want to get kicked out of campaign after logging off, i recorded it for like 10-15 min and send to ZOS but hes still alive and kicking, it was a f o c k i n g joke to watch , (im not exagerating when i say 3h)
Personofsecrets wrote: »People use macros all of the time, the same people have been doing so for ages, and nothing will change.
I bought a gaming mouse specific for the use of Macros in ESO. Whilst I got it to work, my latency with the server makes it not viable plus in the end I realized I prefer be in full control of my character even if it is slower, I guess I'm clumsy with this macro sorcery. Legit or not, there is no stopping it, after all its technically a hardware piece. The same could be argued for uses with multiple monitors or a monster PC or connection that can handle ESO no lag or fps loss. So in this instance macroing shouldn't be blame but the in game system that allows macros to be made.
Yeah, this is exactly what I'm getting at. Most people will say that using macros is exploiting or cheating or a bannable offense. But, how would zos go about actually detecting the use of macros?
At this point you have now turned the discussion into "How do I get away with cheating"ZOS_MollyH wrote: »Hi @Casdha !
The use of gaming keyboards and mice are not prohibited, but the use of third-party software or other means of creating macros to automate in-game functions is a violation. I apologize for the confusion!
Just to clarify further, part of the Terms of Service document includes an agreement to follow other Supplemental Terms pertaining to Your Service and/or Game, such as a Code of Conduct, provide guidance on behavior that ZeniMax deems to be inappropriate and specify restrictions on Your Account, Your use of the Game, or Your participation in the Services.
There is a paragraph in the Terms of Service agreement that is as follows:
You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of ‘bots’, “speed hacks”, “deep-link”, “page-scrape”, “robot”, “spider”, algorithm or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums), software that transmits, manipulates, or distributes (including, but are limited to, “mirroring”) the data stream or any aspect of the Services to another computer, server websites or other publication or distribution media, or software that permits You to use Services without human input are examples of methods not authorized by ZeniMax
Whether it provides an advantage or not, utilizing macros do fall under this category and are prohibited. Please be sure to let us know if you still have any further questions or concerns!
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Is using macros for combos / skill rotations acceptsble or considered cheating?
I would assume it's considered cheating because it is technically using a third party program to enhance your game play. But in most cases that third party program is included with your mouse or keyboard and is already running in the background and serving other purposes. So how could it be identified as bring used in an unfsir way?
I guess I'm wondering how many people out here currently use macros to gain an advantage in PvP. Or if no one does because it is detectable and consodeed an offense.
I think :
macro for "type / d a n c e d u n m e r " => ok
macro for "type 1 left click type 2 left click type 1 left click type R" => not OK
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »A macro is something that aids you unfairly compared to normal gameplay so yes this would be classified as one of those no-nos, especially since multiboxing isn't allowed.My opinion? Ban em all
Fully agree. But... Is it actually detectable and if so, is action taken against people who do it?
I don't want to use macros and don't support it. But sometimes in game people get combos off so damn quickly that it seems as though they are using macros.