wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

With race, name, and appearance change coming soon to live servers, many of us are wondering where class changes are. Unfortunately, it has been stated in an ESO live episode that these changes are not planned for the game. However, class change is now highly demanded by most of the ESO community.

Any proves that most of the community ,,highly demand" class change or You just count Your vote as a milion votes?

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

CreepyPahuska wrote: »

Of course we should get classes change ! I mean, look at the state of the game, seriously : leveling a new character to the maximum level (50) is soooo hard, it takes at least 2 days, including sleep time, meals and toilet breaks... so yeah, classe change is absolutely necessary !

No, seriously... I can't believe someone actually asked for that. We already got race change, wich is a total absurdity. Ideas like that are on the same level of ridiculous as the nerf requests that are already killing the game ("ye but iz two hard lel")

It may only take 2 days if someone has the tenacity, time, and will to do so. It can take someone like me about 5 days or 10 levels a day before I'm tired from grinding so much. I wanna do other stuff or have to do other stuff. And let's not forget if you put a lot of work into a character, i.e. horse training, crafting, guild lines, achievements,etc., and you aren't happy with the class you chose after awhile, you should have the choice to change it. Not a cheap choice, tho. I'd say class change tokens should cost more than race change ones.

I played a sorcerer to level 25. Didn't like it, never played it again. Not a lot of time wasted. I surely didn't max crafting or riding before realizing the class I chose was not for me. But, by not happy with, you mean got nerfed.

Runs wrote: »

In the other TES games Skyrim class didn't really mater except the with your starting stats

Fixed that for you.
Same kind of argument : in the majority of other MMO games you can't change your class.

And of course I have to assume all the people that KEEP bringing up just level a new character OVER AND OVER again, have only grinded all their characters and have no real vested interest in the game anyway.

I have 7 char that I lvled up through quest (no grind here) from lvl 1 to veteran 16 (and it tooks me more than 5 little days ). I took lot of dedication on all of y character, took lots of time, so please, don't talk about things you don't understand

Because I dont give a *** who you are, you can't get all the achievements, mount training, researched traits back in 8-10 hours of grinding

Like @CreepyPahuska said :

Oh, and if you need to do all your horse training, craft skills leveling, guild skills, achievements, etc... before your can realise that you don't like the class your playing... well forgive me but you are an idiot.

And let me quote myself :

Problem can be horse training, but you can already buy it from the crown store so problem solved (instead of putting money in class change you put money in horse training)..

So for horse training, you were wrong, you can do it in 5 minutes if you want... Your researched traits are not wasted they only are on another char.

If it was possible to change classes, u could might aswell just be able to play all classes with all skills of 1 character as u would be able to change it, lets say during a trial. Its not needed at all. U want a new class on ur toon, remake it. Simple as that. Nor do I get the point of race changes honestly. If u made a "wrong" choice when u made that toon its just too bad, remake the char..

Should never happen. People seem to forget the Online part about ESO, it's ultimately an MMO and needs to function as such.

theher0not wrote: »

Don't care. If it is added fine (as long as Zos doesn't over nerf/buff a class to bait people to use it) if not then fine too. If other people want to change I see no reason for them not to be able too do it.

Classes are already wildly unbalanced. Nightblades are clearly god-tier and only continue getting buffed every patch, either directly or indirectly. Sorcerer is literal trash right now because you have to run 1 exact setup to even make it viable (boring/stupid AF). The other two classes fall in the middle, but are vastly underpowered to the Nightblade.

ZoS wouldn't have so many class change requests if they would stop playing class favorites and stop catering to the PvP community with patches that destroy PvE viability of classes.

Vercingetorix wrote: »

People like to use "FotM" as their argument but fail to recognize that people are already using the popular build every patch now anyway. Class Change isn't going to impact that. What it will do is provide an opportunity for those of us who don't have the time to play through the game, chasing every shard and achievement, just to use a different class. I only have time for one character and trust me, a "casual" like myself isn't going to be topping any Alliance scoreboards with a class change. I'm a completionist, but I refuse to 100% the game more than once - just so I can change 3 skill lines that I will only use a few abilities from on my bar.

Please let me rephrase that to make sure I fully understand what you are trying to say : you refuse to put more effort in the game to make a new character because you are a casual player, thus, you expect Zenimax to give you a solution that would allow you to reach that goal effortlessly. In other words, the game isn't easy enough right now, you want ZoS to make things even more easy, by allowing you to change your class like you would change your underwears.
You need to realise that the WHOLE DAMN GAME has already been nerfed down to the ground and even below, just because players like you complained about s***. They nerfed the dungeons so hard that you barely need a tank and a healer to go through what used to be the endgame 4man content (wich makes your talk of PvE viability senseless), they removed the veteran ranks so that making a new character now only takes maybe 10% of the time it used to take before that... and now you want to change your class so you don't even need to make a new character ?

Several people asked why we care if other people want to change their class, well it hurts my f***ing feelings to see a game I enjoyed for more than 2 years being turned, step by step, to EasyMode CasuLand. TESO isn't TES VI, it's a MMORPG with a TES background. If you guys miss Skyrim, please just go back there. Thanks.

Casual players are a plague that is killing the game.

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

With race, name, and appearance change coming soon to live servers, many of us are wondering where class changes are. Unfortunately, it has been stated in an ESO live episode that these changes are not planned for the game. However, class change is now highly demanded by most of the ESO community. Should we get class change, or keep things as is?

while I am personally very fine with my class (stam DK), I believe there are people, who aren`t and would want to change it to some other class. I am going to change my stam dk altmer (oops, but she was so pretty ), to redguard, because of stam racial passives of course. but she is still going to be hot and harder hitting, August August where are thou !!!

If they want another class just create a new character

well, but why not also class change? imho it is the same as race change or appearance change....why not?

Why not?

Because let's say you only have one character, fully maxed out in all your class skills. You decide to change class...

Obviously your old class skills are no longer applicable. They could refund the skill points you've used but you'd still have to learn the new class skills. Now that is something that "happens" as you level up a new character from scratch, but it's still something this converted class character would need to do.

It simply wouldn't make sense to say "I was DK with level 50 in Ardent Flame skills, I want to be a sorc with level 50 in all Dark Magic skills" - apart from anything else how would you work out morphs?

Besides I would suggest that anyone thinking "I want a new face, I want a new race, I want a new class" would be better off (literally) creating a new character.

Um...AND? How exactly is that ANY different then switching from say stamina to magicka? I changed from magicka to DW/Bow stamina and had to re-train ALL my skills. It's no different.

You are making some gross assumption that if we changed class we would just magically get max level in all our new class skills? I wasn't thinking that and bet most other pro class change people weren't either. Of COURSE we would have to train all our new skills up.

There is also a LOT more to a character than just their class. My main has max level crafting/motifs, tons of achievements, max fishing, all the skyshards, mages guild, FTRs guild, PvP skills, and the list goes on and on.......Zenimax **** with my class enough Im now not happy with it so, while I love my character I want to try another class with them instead of starting from scratch. I really don't get why this is so difficult for people to comprehend.

CreepyPahuska wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

People like to use "FotM" as their argument but fail to recognize that people are already using the popular build every patch now anyway. Class Change isn't going to impact that. What it will do is provide an opportunity for those of us who don't have the time to play through the game, chasing every shard and achievement, just to use a different class. I only have time for one character and trust me, a "casual" like myself isn't going to be topping any Alliance scoreboards with a class change. I'm a completionist, but I refuse to 100% the game more than once - just so I can change 3 skill lines that I will only use a few abilities from on my bar.

Please let me rephrase that to make sure I fully understand what you are trying to say : you refuse to put more effort in the game to make a new character because you are a casual player, thus, you expect Zenimax to give you a solution that would allow you to reach that goal effortlessly. In other words, the game isn't easy enough right now, you want ZoS to make things even more easy, by allowing you to change your class like you would change your underwears.
You need to realise that the WHOLE DAMN GAME has already been nerfed down to the ground and even below, just because players like you complained about s***. They nerfed the dungeons so hard that you barely need a tank and a healer to go through what used to be the endgame 4man content (wich makes your talk of PvE viability senseless), they removed the veteran ranks so that making a new character now only takes maybe 10% of the time it used to take before that... and now you want to change your class so you don't even need to make a new character ?

Several people asked why we care if other people want to change their class, well it hurts my f***ing feelings to see a game I enjoyed for more than 2 years being turned, step by step, to EasyMode CasuLand. TESO isn't TES VI, it's a MMORPG with a TES background. If you guys miss Skyrim, please just go back there. Thanks.

Casual players are a plague that is killing the game.

Your logic escapes me since people ALREADY change their skills on a whim to match the FToM of their class, why not the class itself? It's not like it's just some "EZ" road and you would still have to train up all those skills.

Plus how can you argue when we are going to have race AND name changes?! Seems much more game killing that I could go into a shop as a Nord and come out a freakin' Altmer with a different name to boot!. WTF is that all about? Changing class actually makes logical sense by comparison. Gotten bored of being a DK tank? Well just drop all your heavy armor, march over to the Mages guild and learn how to be a Sorc. Not seeing how that is game killing. Just like changing your job in RL.

Character Creation solves the issue of changing classes. Class Change is just a bad bad bad easily abused idea.

I would add, we don't need race changes either. But atleast they're making people pay for them with real money.