khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »oh look, there you go, more snarky comments. Got a chip on your shoulder?
Yeh, sure. Lets go with personal attacks instead of addressing the issue.khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »Yep, the buff should have gone to bosmer. Also... why do cosmetic choices still influence stats in a modern day MMO? Thats just one step away from gender tied perks/penalties. And what if I dont want to play a cat race? Im either forced to play a character I dislike even looking at or a character that is inherently sub par.
If you don't want to play a Khajiit, then don't play one. It's hardly rocket science...
Did you read what I wrote? There is no choice that makes me happy here. I can either play a race I dont want to play or I can play with sub par stats which I dont fancy either. Its a lose-lose situation. Whats so hard to grasp?
Sub-par stats? Redguard is more than viable for stam builds...it has been and still is...
Viable is a very broad term. Khajiit is hands down better for dps than Redguard, also... are those the only 2 stamina races in game? What about the others?
Personally I dont like racials that significantly influence stats in general. A cosmetic choice should not dictate how effective your character is. Its like gender locking classes because according to the 'lore' women arent strong enough to be warriors and men arent sensitive enough to be healers.
there were personal attacks? care to show us what these were? I'm still questioning your reading abilities, but now at an all time high.
Us? OK, your highness. Questioning my reading comprehension skills is one. Commenting on my character instead of on the topic is two. Not that it bothers me what someone on the Internet thinks about either of those... Id just rather get back to discussing the racials issue.
Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..
Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..
Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..
Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.
Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..
Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..
Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..
I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...
Khajiits changes getting rolled back:Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.
Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Khajiits changes getting rolled back:Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.
Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.
Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Khajiits changes getting rolled back:Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.
Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.
Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Khajiits changes getting rolled back:Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.
Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.
Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.
Lord_Dexter wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..
Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..
Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..
I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...
Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..
May be I have wasted 1 year so far...
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Khajiits changes getting rolled back:Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.
Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.
Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..
Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..
Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..
I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...
Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..
May be I have wasted 1 year so far...
Khajit is currently balanced well with the other races. It had a large crit chance and some sustain. This gives it a slight edge in damage over redguards, who are the second choice for DPS, since they have tons of sustain and a stam bonus. To give khajit a stam bonus would completely upset this balance and make Khajit the number one race for stam dps. What would be a better action is to buff the other races that are lackluster in comparison to these two. I would love to see each race having a damage bonus to a certain element.
khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »Yep, the buff should have gone to bosmer. Also... why do cosmetic choices still influence stats in a modern day MMO? Thats just one step away from gender tied perks/penalties. And what if I dont want to play a cat race? Im either forced to play a character I dislike even looking at or a character that is inherently sub par.
If you don't want to play a Khajiit, then don't play one. It's hardly rocket science...
Did you read what I wrote? There is no choice here that makes me happy here. I can either play a race I dont want to play or I can play with sub par stats which I dont fancy either. Its a lose-lose situation. Whats so hard to grasp?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7NeGIYGP-a0 hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..
Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..
Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..
I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...
Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..
May be I have wasted 1 year so far...
Khajit is currently balanced well with the other races. It had a large crit chance and some sustain. This gives it a slight edge in damage over redguards, who are the second choice for DPS, since they have tons of sustain and a stam bonus. To give khajit a stam bonus would completely upset this balance and make Khajit the number one race for stam dps. What would be a better action is to buff the other races that are lackluster in comparison to these two. I would love to see each race having a damage bonus to a certain element.
Seriously, I guess the silver lining for those of us who have played khajiit since launch is that we won't have hordes of people switching to our race after all. I hate the idea of people being allowed to switch race just like that. They should have to work for it.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Khajiits changes getting rolled back:Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.
Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.
Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.
Lord_Dexter wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Khajiits changes getting rolled back:Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.
Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.
Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
You lost another Khajit...thank you for rolling back..hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..
Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..
Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..
I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...
Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..
May be I have wasted 1 year so far...
Khajit is currently balanced well with the other races. It had a large crit chance and some sustain. This gives it a slight edge in damage over redguards, who are the second choice for DPS, since they have tons of sustain and a stam bonus. To give khajit a stam bonus would completely upset this balance and make Khajit the number one race for stam dps. What would be a better action is to buff the other races that are lackluster in comparison to these two. I would love to see each race having a damage bonus to a certain element.
Lol, from PVP point of view Ur critical chance is useless as every good player is running with Critical resistance.
8% critical chance is no good buff, my all Race have critical chance around 60-70% which is very good for PVE. Give khajit 9% stamina buff and remove critical chance or give instead critical damage buff..you have no idea what is important for PVP or PVE..critical around 70% is good which you can easily via Fighter Guild Passive + Champion System passive + any good sets like night mother gaze + weapon with Critical trait + class abilities I.e Night Blade Assassination passives..
You should know how to max out your build. Bosmers are now still stronger than khajit. PVE does not matter to me now except farming new gear as I am already done with PVE and now more focusing on PVP builds..
I will for sure switch my Khajit stamina Templar to imperial/ Redguard or Argonian mage for max out stuff..though I already have mage breton Templar..
I was unhappy with Khajit from the day I created mage altmer / Redguard NB. the difference is vast in term of DPS or Sustain. Was gonna delete (my VR 16) but stopped due to extra character available slots..
The_Outsider wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..
Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..
Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..
I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...
Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..
May be I have wasted 1 year so far...
Khajit is currently balanced well with the other races. It had a large crit chance and some sustain. This gives it a slight edge in damage over redguards, who are the second choice for DPS, since they have tons of sustain and a stam bonus. To give khajit a stam bonus would completely upset this balance and make Khajit the number one race for stam dps. What would be a better action is to buff the other races that are lackluster in comparison to these two. I would love to see each race having a damage bonus to a certain element.
Khajiit is absolutely destroyed by Redguard for any PVP content. They are currently stronger than Redguard in PVE by a small fraction, only noticeable at the highest DPS numbers. So for a min-maxer pushing 30k DPS, sure Khajiit is better.
The proposed changes would have made Khajiit the best Stamina DPS race by a wider margin, while retaining Redguard supremacy in Cyrodiil. The proposed changes were over-hyped. I guess the plus is, ZOS listened to the communtiy?
Nos, this statement confuddles me.hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Khajit as a top dog...
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Khajiits changes getting rolled back:Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.
Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.
Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
You lost another Khajit...thank you for rolling back..hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..
Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..
Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..
I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...
Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..
May be I have wasted 1 year so far...
Khajit is currently balanced well with the other races. It had a large crit chance and some sustain. This gives it a slight edge in damage over redguards, who are the second choice for DPS, since they have tons of sustain and a stam bonus. To give khajit a stam bonus would completely upset this balance and make Khajit the number one race for stam dps. What would be a better action is to buff the other races that are lackluster in comparison to these two. I would love to see each race having a damage bonus to a certain element.
Lol, from PVP point of view Ur critical chance is useless as every good player is running with Critical resistance.
8% critical chance is no good buff, my all Race have critical chance around 60-70% which is very good for PVE. Give khajit 9% stamina buff and remove critical chance or give instead critical damage buff..you have no idea what is important for PVP or PVE..critical around 70% is good which you can easily via Fighter Guild Passive + Champion System passive + any good sets like night mother gaze + weapon with Critical trait + class abilities I.e Night Blade Assassination passives..
You should know how to max out your build. Bosmers are now still stronger than khajit. PVE does not matter to me now except farming new gear as I am already done with PVE and now more focusing on PVP builds..
I will for sure switch my Khajit stamina Templar to imperial/ Redguard or Argonian mage for max out stuff..though I already have mage breton Templar..
I was unhappy with Khajit from the day I created mage altmer / Redguard NB. the difference is vast in term of DPS or Sustain. Was gonna delete (my VR 16) but stopped due to extra character available slots..
So much wrong with this comment I am lost as to where to start.
1. In PvP crit may mean less , however not everyone is wearing impen in PvP, but this is the only point in your entire post that has merit to it.
2. 8% is a huge buff to crit and stacks well with the current TBS stam meta. Of you have a redguard anything I guarantee my khajit of the same class will beat your dps...mathematically and in game tested. Look at all the end game builds, they all list Khajit as a top dog...
3. Fighters guild passive does not increase critical chance...
4. No one uses Bosmers in Pve...not sure about PvP since I don't part take. No one needs sustain on PvEarth in a well organized group...if youre lacking sustain in PvE your group is doing great it wrong.
5. You can switch your Khajit to any other race and lose dps.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Khajiits changes getting rolled back:Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.
Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.
Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.
timidobserver wrote: »To get the maximum amount of satisfaction out of the troll they have to wait another few weeks for people to level up their khajit before they roll it back.
Personofsecrets wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBruno , please consider updating the Orc passives.
Ult gained instead of hp regen/healing, %weapon damage instead of increased damage on very specific physical attacks, and reduced damage to armor instead of increased crafting exp are changes that I think many Orc would be interested to see. Such passives that I outlined will be more fun, more versatile, and more in line with the power level of the other races.