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Are they gonna change Khajit

  • Rohamad_Ali
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    I'm rather comfortable with this change .
  • Ep1kMalware
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    oh look, there you go, more snarky comments. Got a chip on your shoulder?

    Yeh, sure. Lets go with personal attacks instead of addressing the issue.
    Akimbro wrote: »
    Kendaric wrote: »
    Yep, the buff should have gone to bosmer. Also... why do cosmetic choices still influence stats in a modern day MMO? Thats just one step away from gender tied perks/penalties. And what if I dont want to play a cat race? Im either forced to play a character I dislike even looking at or a character that is inherently sub par.

    If you don't want to play a Khajiit, then don't play one. It's hardly rocket science...

    Did you read what I wrote? There is no choice that makes me happy here. I can either play a race I dont want to play or I can play with sub par stats which I dont fancy either. Its a lose-lose situation. Whats so hard to grasp?

    Sub-par stats? Redguard is more than viable for stam builds...it has been and still is...

    Viable is a very broad term. Khajiit is hands down better for dps than Redguard, also... are those the only 2 stamina races in game? What about the others?

    Personally I dont like racials that significantly influence stats in general. A cosmetic choice should not dictate how effective your character is. Its like gender locking classes because according to the 'lore' women arent strong enough to be warriors and men arent sensitive enough to be healers.

    there were personal attacks? care to show us what these were? I'm still questioning your reading abilities, but now at an all time high.

    Us? OK, your highness. Questioning my reading comprehension skills is one. Commenting on my character instead of on the topic is two. Not that it bothers me what someone on the Internet thinks about either of those... Id just rather get back to discussing the racials issue.

    actually, both those things can happen without shots being fired. which is where confusion over your reading ability comes into play, when it happens
    over and over again with you droping all kinds of run=de comments. get over it. seems you care quite a lot.




    Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..

    Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..

    Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..


    I'm not demanding a rollback. but it would be super sweet if they,.. you know.. uhm.. balanced the other classes to some degree. nerfing khajiit would do that too, but so would givinf]g other classes desirable abilities.
  • SanTii.92
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    Khajiits changes getting rolled back:
    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.

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  • Lord_Eomer
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    Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..

    Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..

    Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..

    I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...

    Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..

    May be I have wasted 1 year so far...
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 8, 2016 12:50PM
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiits changes getting rolled back:
    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.

    Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.

    Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiits changes getting rolled back:
    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.

    Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.

    Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    You lost another Khajit...thank you for rolling back..I had high hopes for my Khajit and they died immediately..

    Will gonna buy change race to shift to Redguard or Imperial or gonna convert to mage argonian Healer..

    Sick of my Khajit stampler
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    Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 8, 2016 1:37PM
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiits changes getting rolled back:
    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.

    Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.

    Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.

    Gina ! How can you be a Anti-Catite ?! Booo ..
  • Gigasax
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    Best News today!! :) Thanks @ZOS_GinaBruno
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  • Dissentinel
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    Thank you! Diversity of races in the game and letting players play their way is one of the things that makes the Elder Scrolls great. The now-reverted changes to Khajiit would have greatly reduced this diversity.
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiits changes getting rolled back:
    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.

    Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.

    Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.

    Thanks you! As a khajit I fully support this action!
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..

    Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..

    Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..

    I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...

    Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..

    May be I have wasted 1 year so far...

    Khajit is currently balanced well with the other races. It had a large crit chance and some sustain. This gives it a slight edge in damage over redguards, who are the second choice for DPS, since they have tons of sustain and a stam bonus. To give khajit a stam bonus would completely upset this balance and make Khajit the number one race for stam dps. What would be a better action is to buff the other races that are lackluster in comparison to these two. I would love to see each race having a damage bonus to a certain element.
  • Lord_Eomer
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiits changes getting rolled back:
    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.

    Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.

    Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    You lost another Khajit...thank you for rolling back..
    Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..

    Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..

    Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..

    I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...

    Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..

    May be I have wasted 1 year so far...

    Khajit is currently balanced well with the other races. It had a large crit chance and some sustain. This gives it a slight edge in damage over redguards, who are the second choice for DPS, since they have tons of sustain and a stam bonus. To give khajit a stam bonus would completely upset this balance and make Khajit the number one race for stam dps. What would be a better action is to buff the other races that are lackluster in comparison to these two. I would love to see each race having a damage bonus to a certain element.

    Lol, from PVP point of view Ur critical chance is useless as every good player is running with Critical resistance.

    8% critical chance is no good buff, my all Race have critical chance around 60-70% which is very good for PVE. Give khajit 9% stamina buff and remove critical chance or give instead critical damage buff..you have no idea what is important for PVP or PVE..critical around 70% is good which you can easily via Fighter Guild Passive + Champion System passive + any good sets like night mother gaze + weapon with Critical trait + class abilities I.e Night Blade Assassination passives..

    You should know how to max out your build. Bosmers are now still stronger than khajit. PVE does not matter to me now except farming new gear as I am already done with PVE and now more focusing on PVP builds..

    I will for sure switch my Khajit stamina Templar to imperial/ Redguard or Argonian mage for max out stuff..though I already have mage breton Templar..

    I was unhappy with Khajit from the day I created mage altmer / Redguard NB. the difference is vast in term of DPS or Sustain. Was gonna delete (my VR 16) but stopped due to extra character available slots..
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 8, 2016 3:43PM
  • Aztlan
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    This one is not happy with all the khajiit haters. He was looking forward to the changes.
  • CromulentForumID
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    Kendaric wrote: »
    Yep, the buff should have gone to bosmer. Also... why do cosmetic choices still influence stats in a modern day MMO? Thats just one step away from gender tied perks/penalties. And what if I dont want to play a cat race? Im either forced to play a character I dislike even looking at or a character that is inherently sub par.

    If you don't want to play a Khajiit, then don't play one. It's hardly rocket science...

    Did you read what I wrote? There is no choice here that makes me happy here. I can either play a race I dont want to play or I can play with sub par stats which I dont fancy either. Its a lose-lose situation. Whats so hard to grasp?

    How did you ever sign up for an MMO? Aren't racial stats pretty much a standard convention, especially in a fantasy/magic setting? If so, the only way you would ever be happy is if the race you wanted to play happened to the "the best."

    Also, MMOs are always changing their numbers and stats. Especially for a game that has PVP. There is never a guarantee "the best" will stay that way.

    I think you signed up for your lose-lose unhappiness the day you installed the game.



  • Lord_Eomer
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    Valwe wrote: »
    This one is not happy with all the khajiit haters. He was looking forward to the changes.

    Lol, why bothering even comment for making jokes on others expections?

    Try to be a good contributor..
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Khajiit has suffered enslavement from Dunmer and beaten and demoralized by the Thalmor . Give us the power to fight the power ! No more time in the cave ! No more wash the dishes an chant the Thalmor oath !

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7NeGIYGP-a0
  • Personofsecrets
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno , please consider updating the Orc passives.

    Ult gained instead of hp regen/healing, %weapon damage instead of increased damage on very specific physical attacks, and reduced damage to armor instead of increased crafting exp are changes that I think many Orc would be interested to see. Such passives that I outlined will be more fun, more versatile, and more in line with the power level of the other races.

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  • kadar
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    Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..

    Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..

    Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..

    I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...

    Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..

    May be I have wasted 1 year so far...

    Khajit is currently balanced well with the other races. It had a large crit chance and some sustain. This gives it a slight edge in damage over redguards, who are the second choice for DPS, since they have tons of sustain and a stam bonus. To give khajit a stam bonus would completely upset this balance and make Khajit the number one race for stam dps. What would be a better action is to buff the other races that are lackluster in comparison to these two. I would love to see each race having a damage bonus to a certain element.

    Khajiit is absolutely destroyed by Redguard for any PVP content. They are currently stronger than Redguard in PVE by a small fraction, only noticeable at the highest DPS numbers. So for a min-maxer pushing 30k DPS, sure Khajiit is better.

    The proposed changes would have made Khajiit the best Stamina DPS race by a wider margin, while retaining Redguard supremacy in Cyrodiil. The proposed changes were over-hyped. I guess the plus is, ZOS listened to the communtiy? :|
  • Aztlan
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    Seriously, I guess the silver lining for those of us who have played khajiit since launch is that we won't have hordes of people switching to our race after all. I hate the idea of people being allowed to switch race just like that. They should have to work for it.
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    Valwe wrote: »
    Seriously, I guess the silver lining for those of us who have played khajiit since launch is that we won't have hordes of people switching to our race after all. I hate the idea of people being allowed to switch race just like that. They should have to work for it.

    That's true. Had this gone through we could have been labelled FOTM/min-maxer/elitists, when really I just liek the kitty race. It's hard to be unique when hordes of people switch to your favorite race because omg khajiit so stronk. :p
    Edited by kadar on July 8, 2016 4:36PM
  • Grao
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiits changes getting rolled back:
    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.

    Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.

    Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.

    Awww, but I was looking forward to having my DK Khajit even more ridiculous.
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiits changes getting rolled back:
    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.

    Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.

    Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    You lost another Khajit...thank you for rolling back..
    Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..

    Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..

    Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..

    I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...

    Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..

    May be I have wasted 1 year so far...

    Khajit is currently balanced well with the other races. It had a large crit chance and some sustain. This gives it a slight edge in damage over redguards, who are the second choice for DPS, since they have tons of sustain and a stam bonus. To give khajit a stam bonus would completely upset this balance and make Khajit the number one race for stam dps. What would be a better action is to buff the other races that are lackluster in comparison to these two. I would love to see each race having a damage bonus to a certain element.

    Lol, from PVP point of view Ur critical chance is useless as every good player is running with Critical resistance.

    8% critical chance is no good buff, my all Race have critical chance around 60-70% which is very good for PVE. Give khajit 9% stamina buff and remove critical chance or give instead critical damage buff..you have no idea what is important for PVP or PVE..critical around 70% is good which you can easily via Fighter Guild Passive + Champion System passive + any good sets like night mother gaze + weapon with Critical trait + class abilities I.e Night Blade Assassination passives..

    You should know how to max out your build. Bosmers are now still stronger than khajit. PVE does not matter to me now except farming new gear as I am already done with PVE and now more focusing on PVP builds..

    I will for sure switch my Khajit stamina Templar to imperial/ Redguard or Argonian mage for max out stuff..though I already have mage breton Templar..

    I was unhappy with Khajit from the day I created mage altmer / Redguard NB. the difference is vast in term of DPS or Sustain. Was gonna delete (my VR 16) but stopped due to extra character available slots..

    So much wrong with this comment I am lost as to where to start.
    1. In PvP crit may mean less , however not everyone is wearing impen in PvP, but this is the only point in your entire post that has merit to it.
    2. 8% is a huge buff to crit and stacks well with the current TBS stam meta. Of you have a redguard anything I guarantee my khajit of the same class will beat your dps...mathematically and in game tested. Look at all the end game builds, they all list Khajit as a top dog...
    3. Fighters guild passive does not increase critical chance...
    4. No one uses Bosmers in Pve...not sure about PvP since I don't part take. No one needs sustain on PvEarth in a well organized group...if youre lacking sustain in PvE your group is doing great it wrong.
    5. You can switch your Khajit to any other race and lose dps.

  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..

    Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..

    Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..

    I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...

    Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..

    May be I have wasted 1 year so far...

    Khajit is currently balanced well with the other races. It had a large crit chance and some sustain. This gives it a slight edge in damage over redguards, who are the second choice for DPS, since they have tons of sustain and a stam bonus. To give khajit a stam bonus would completely upset this balance and make Khajit the number one race for stam dps. What would be a better action is to buff the other races that are lackluster in comparison to these two. I would love to see each race having a damage bonus to a certain element.

    Khajiit is absolutely destroyed by Redguard for any PVP content. They are currently stronger than Redguard in PVE by a small fraction, only noticeable at the highest DPS numbers. So for a min-maxer pushing 30k DPS, sure Khajiit is better.

    The proposed changes would have made Khajiit the best Stamina DPS race by a wider margin, while retaining Redguard supremacy in Cyrodiil. The proposed changes were over-hyped. I guess the plus is, ZOS listened to the communtiy? :|

    In PvP that may be the case, in. PVE the difference is significant. The other stam raves should be buffed.
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    Khajit as a top dog...
    Nos, this statement confuddles me.

    I thought they were cats? :D
    Edited by code65536 on July 8, 2016 5:44PM
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiits changes getting rolled back:
    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.

    Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.

    Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    You lost another Khajit...thank you for rolling back..
    Lol, tired of seeing people asking to rollback khajit, if they rollback than Redguard recovery should be reduced or imperial health buff or Wood Elf stamina buff..

    Khajit health recovery buff has been replaced with stamina, do not you understand..

    Critical buff for khajit is not very useful ok in PVP and any other race can get critical to 60% easily..

    I don't think you understand how the game works, if you did you would know how OP Khajit iso with these changes...

    Oh its seems you know very well, kindly explain..

    May be I have wasted 1 year so far...

    Khajit is currently balanced well with the other races. It had a large crit chance and some sustain. This gives it a slight edge in damage over redguards, who are the second choice for DPS, since they have tons of sustain and a stam bonus. To give khajit a stam bonus would completely upset this balance and make Khajit the number one race for stam dps. What would be a better action is to buff the other races that are lackluster in comparison to these two. I would love to see each race having a damage bonus to a certain element.

    Lol, from PVP point of view Ur critical chance is useless as every good player is running with Critical resistance.

    8% critical chance is no good buff, my all Race have critical chance around 60-70% which is very good for PVE. Give khajit 9% stamina buff and remove critical chance or give instead critical damage buff..you have no idea what is important for PVP or PVE..critical around 70% is good which you can easily via Fighter Guild Passive + Champion System passive + any good sets like night mother gaze + weapon with Critical trait + class abilities I.e Night Blade Assassination passives..

    You should know how to max out your build. Bosmers are now still stronger than khajit. PVE does not matter to me now except farming new gear as I am already done with PVE and now more focusing on PVP builds..

    I will for sure switch my Khajit stamina Templar to imperial/ Redguard or Argonian mage for max out stuff..though I already have mage breton Templar..

    I was unhappy with Khajit from the day I created mage altmer / Redguard NB. the difference is vast in term of DPS or Sustain. Was gonna delete (my VR 16) but stopped due to extra character available slots..

    So much wrong with this comment I am lost as to where to start.
    1. In PvP crit may mean less , however not everyone is wearing impen in PvP, but this is the only point in your entire post that has merit to it.
    2. 8% is a huge buff to crit and stacks well with the current TBS stam meta. Of you have a redguard anything I guarantee my khajit of the same class will beat your dps...mathematically and in game tested. Look at all the end game builds, they all list Khajit as a top dog...
    3. Fighters guild passive does not increase critical chance...
    4. No one uses Bosmers in Pve...not sure about PvP since I don't part take. No one needs sustain on PvEarth in a well organized group...if youre lacking sustain in PvE your group is doing great it wrong.
    5. You can switch your Khajit to any other race and lose dps.

    @hedna123b14_ESO

    Either you are new to this game or me, your comments are giving me good laugh..

    1. Are you an expert in PVP? Are you running without Critical resistance? All threads across forum for end game sets without critical resistance is causing huge buzz. Why have they added critical resistance monster items to PVP gold vendor? .any good player is running with Critical resistance except new players.. even all pvp rewards are mostly having critical resistance buff..without resistance you will get hits like 8k, 9k and boom died

    2. How many players are using TBS? May be even 5% or less can craft? And after Juliano and other good sets players running with TBS situationally..

    Remove critical passive replace with peneteration buff or critical damage buff as critical is easy to get using any race

    3. Either you do not know or I, hunter skill gives passive buff for critical strike chance..if I mean fighter guild definitely it's hunter skill passive buff..

    4. I see all da time Bosmers in end game trails, either you are not doing trials or may try join some random groups. Bosmers NB are very sustained as like redguards..may be little lesser than Redguards they are real kings of stamina

    5. How will lose DPS? Please explain..with 70% critical on both it's easier to hit same..there is a slight difference but khajit buff is very low 8% comparing thief buff which increases with legnsry divines pieces to around 17%

    Above 70% critical may be you are sacrificing either weapon damage or max stamina buff..

    It's not needed..why not swap khajit 8% chance with Redguard 10% stamina?

    Definitely I am gonna replace my Khajit wih some better race like Imperial or Redguard..
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 8, 2016 6:24PM
  • mwd419_ESO
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiits changes getting rolled back:
    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Khajiit's getting nerfed based on feedback cause they become overwhelmingly the best stam race.

    Rich Lambert's Quote, Elder Scrolls off the Records 180.

    Yep. In the next patch, we'll be reverting the most recent change to Nimble, and will match what's currently on the Live megaservers.

    Really? You're giving them that useless health recovery back? FFS, at least make it max health or something instead.
  • timidobserver
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    To get the maximum amount of satisfaction out of the troll they have to wait another few weeks for people to level up their khajit before they roll it back.

    Predicted.
    V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
    V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
    V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • GreatWhite000
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    *Gives khajiits the stamina pool they've always wanted*

    *Reverts changes*

    I suppose I should have seen that one coming :(
  • CP5
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    As someone who only has khajiit characters i'm glad this change was reverted. Sorry for those who were expecting khajiit to simply become superior versions of bosmer, but with the current passives on live the race offers a unique set of bonuses that set it apart from the other races while being useful. If you don't care to experiment and find where khajiit shine that is your loss, but I am thankful that the races aren't going to be 'merged'with some of these changes.
  • Arthg
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno , please consider updating the Orc passives.

    Ult gained instead of hp regen/healing, %weapon damage instead of increased damage on very specific physical attacks, and reduced damage to armor instead of increased crafting exp are changes that I think many Orc would be interested to see. Such passives that I outlined will be more fun, more versatile, and more in line with the power level of the other races.

    True Orcs want the worst passives.

    'Cause we know our kind.
    No wimpy QQing minmaxer among us.

    If you ain't gonna fight hard and die hard with odds against you, don't be an Orc.
    Go hug a tree, swim a swamp, go read a book or eat some friskies.

    ZOS, nerf us, come on, go on, we dare ya.
    PC/EU. NoCP PvP. sDK Orc IRL. Flawless tamperor. Pro scrub.
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