The Gold Road Chapter – which includes the Scribing system – and Update 42 is now available to test on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/656454/
Maintenance for the week of April 22:
• PC/Mac: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – April 22, 4:00AM EDT (08:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
• Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – April 24, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)
• PlayStation®: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – April 24, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)

How to be a garbage player???

  • manny254
    manny254
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    @KenaPKK the only fight I remember was the one at brk farm. That was just me and Ara, and you guys had a group. I also remember you using malubeth. I'm sure you remember it differently, so whatever, but if you don't see me, Mer, Ara, Mojican, Policy, Kaiz etc it's not a group v group.

    Edit: not salty or anything haha, just don't remember things the same I guess :D

    ^This.
    @KenaPKK - some people actually think you're a good player so if you truly are then you don't need to make (fake) publicity for you and your small-man by saying you beat us.
    I'm being honest here in saying I do not remember ever running into you (or the people in your small-man) except this one time when you were on your AD and you followed Mojican, Aenlir and I around for a bit, then this other time on your (main?) DC when you dueled Mojican and he beat you, after you tried to bomb us with bigger numbers and lost.

    I think this last one was at Chalman Lumber, but I could be wrong - I really don't pay attention to all these small details and make notes in my diary for future reference.
    This was a long time ago - haven't seen you since, fighting against us when we run our group or when we go out and duo.

    Also - why are you completely dodging Mojican's question?

    Yo chill. I'm not making publicity, and this thread isn't about Adamant. Heck I want this stupid conversation to end more than anyone. Arinar came up in here calling me out with his outrageous insults, and I'm defending myself and my boys. Unfortunately, he turned it into "he doesn't make fancy videos or try to get attention, therefore everything he says is false and he's bad."

    I have bombed Adamant twice ever. Nearly killed Policy once at Chalm mine, slipped out from under a detect pot, reappeared trying to /dance, got jumped on by him and Arnlir and died to another detect pot, came back at Chalm lumber and bombed again, died to mark and detect pot. Big deal, wasn't much of a chance to get him without an Alchemist build anyway, but it was fun. I was alone both times, and my group does not bomb outside of IC ever. Dunno who you are mistaking me for regarding the bombing and wiping despite outnumbering you.

    I've dueled Mojican 3 times. Once I was on my new stamblade. He was a 30k health stamplar with immov pots, and he rightfully rekt me. No surprise, I was learning stamblade, but that's what I do. I'm scrappy. I'll fight good players on new characters all day to learn them. Why's that suddenly ammo against me? Gtfo. Second time we dueled, I was on a brand new staffblade build. Couldn't outsustain him through the immovs, died, refined build. We still went a little while though. I was salty at the immov pots, which I believe is justified since you have to outsustain 30k health snb builds to win but cannot do so through immovability. I moved on. Third time, he was a magicka build, and we stalled. Still loved his immov pots (I'll never understand relying on those in 1v1s, but whatever). He and I have no beef about it, so why do you?

    I hadn't seen his question until you mentioned it. @manny254 if you need a formal fight that badly, be my guest. Hit up the people I mentioned. My first question when they told me about them was if they had recorded. They didn't, so I dropped it. This was over a month ago, and I only brought them up to put my group in perspective for Arinar. If I'd known Adamant cared so much as to come in swinging when I make some sideways comments to a pug, I'd have left it at the start. There's no disrespect here unless you're bringing it. I will warn you against throwing insults and rash assumptions though.

    God this thread has inflamed well beyond rationality. I am currently offline indefinitely due to computer trouble. Why don't you all go back to playing the game? I'm going to the beach where I won't be constantly bugged by notifications here. All the salt in the water will make me feel right at home. :trollface:

    You created a lie to boost your own ego. Of course I am going to call you on it. I would also love some organized fights, but please do not make up excuses like those lost duels. :#

    Where are lies or excuses?

    You created a false story, and created excuses for loosing duels in 2 of the 3 instances you mentioned. I get the people in dueling guilds take those seriously, but you should instead take them as lessons to improve.
    - Mojican
  • Cinnamon_Spider
    Cinnamon_Spider
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Why do people in this game cling to such inflated egos and feel a need to put each other down? Good grief. Go plaaaaay.
    You should take your own advice.

    Hate to disappoint, but I don't need your affirmation or anyone's. If I came here for an ego boost, I'd have put out a video of my 5 man killing the dozen or so AD including your Exquisite Bedlam on the IC district flag a few weeks back. I'm not that type, though. I hate putting out vids and don't like talking about who I beat or what my group does. I am simply here to defend my boys from Arinar and now Adamant's bs. They work hard and have come far with me, and they don't deserve this kind of *** talk.

    Also I have computer issues, so I can not play now. :anguished: Moar little red notification bubbles pls.
    Dozen? Try evenly matched. And we wiped your group repeatedly to the point you had to drag a boss over. You talk a lot, but your in game play tells it all.
    Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
    Exquisite Bedlam - Sorcerer AD rank 34
    Cinnamonspiderdreams - Sorcerer EP rank 24
    Synaris Astarte - Templar DC rank 24
    Cinnamon Spider - Nightblade AD

    Youtube - Cinnamon_Spider
  • KenaPKK
    KenaPKK
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Why do people in this game cling to such inflated egos and feel a need to put each other down? Good grief. Go plaaaaay.
    You should take your own advice.

    Hate to disappoint, but I don't need your affirmation or anyone's. If I came here for an ego boost, I'd have put out a video of my 5 man killing the dozen or so AD including your Exquisite Bedlam on the IC district flag a few weeks back. I'm not that type, though. I hate putting out vids and don't like talking about who I beat or what my group does. I am simply here to defend my boys from Arinar and now Adamant's bs. They work hard and have come far with me, and they don't deserve this kind of *** talk.

    Also I have computer issues, so I can not play now. :anguished: Moar little red notification bubbles pls.
    Dozen? Try evenly matched. And we wiped your group repeatedly to the point you had to drag a boss over. You talk a lot, but your in game play tells it all.

    Um The stairs were covered with you all, I had a group of 5, the fight took one albeit long attempt, and we definitely didn't drag a boss over LOL. Idk what you're remembering.
    Edited by KenaPKK on July 5, 2016 11:00PM
    Kena
    Legion XIII
    Excellence without elitism
    Premier small scale PvP

    Legend
    NA/PC original dueling and general PvP community guild
    Now the hub of competitive dueling and the joined PvP communities of NA and EU/PC


    Apex Predator.

    Here's a great thread collecting community ideas for PvP updates.

    [MEGATHREAD] Feedback Threads for Class Reps

    Class Representative Feedback Discords:
    Nightblade Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/t2Xhnu6

    Dragonknight Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/UHtZhz8

    Sorcerer Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/e3QkCS8

    Templar Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/WvVuSw7

    Warden Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/sTFY4ys

    General Healing Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/6CmzBFb

    TONKS!
    https://discord.gg/DRNYd39

    Werewolf Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/aDEx2ev

    Vampire Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/yfzck8Q
  • Minnesinger
    Minnesinger
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    This thread is full of different stories and I can see now which ones are the players imagination. Just saying
    The wind is cold where I live,
    The blizzard is my home,
    Snow and ice and loaded dice, the Wizard lives alone.
  • Cinnamon_Spider
    Cinnamon_Spider
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Why do people in this game cling to such inflated egos and feel a need to put each other down? Good grief. Go plaaaaay.
    You should take your own advice.

    Hate to disappoint, but I don't need your affirmation or anyone's. If I came here for an ego boost, I'd have put out a video of my 5 man killing the dozen or so AD including your Exquisite Bedlam on the IC district flag a few weeks back. I'm not that type, though. I hate putting out vids and don't like talking about who I beat or what my group does. I am simply here to defend my boys from Arinar and now Adamant's bs. They work hard and have come far with me, and they don't deserve this kind of *** talk.

    Also I have computer issues, so I can not play now. :anguished: Moar little red notification bubbles pls.
    Dozen? Try evenly matched. And we wiped your group repeatedly to the point you had to drag a boss over. You talk a lot, but your in game play tells it all.

    Um The stairs were covered with you all, I had a group of 5, the fight took one attempt, and we definitely didn't drag a boss over LOL. Idk what you're remembering.
    Your memory is failing you.
    Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
    Exquisite Bedlam - Sorcerer AD rank 34
    Cinnamonspiderdreams - Sorcerer EP rank 24
    Synaris Astarte - Templar DC rank 24
    Cinnamon Spider - Nightblade AD

    Youtube - Cinnamon_Spider
  • Ara_Valleria
    Ara_Valleria
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    I love how I came in here to mention Krotha and Arinar's scrub squad, but they've already been mentioned. ^^

    Hey, are you still mad about us farming yall at Ash mine today? We were there because we couldnt find action. Please dont be mad. Youve been mad for a while now. Its not good for you. I will be happy to duel you to help you get better :)

    You sure you want to duel him to help him get better? Or are your fingers ready on the log out button if you manage to get a fluke. :*

    Don't talk about dueling when you actually ran away from a fight on the PTS server of all things.

    Didnt you blame bugs on your defeat? Didnt we test them out after and realized that they fixed cloak and my AoE was keeping you out. Fluke? And PTS? what gear were you testing out? We were using the same builds PTS or not. Yes, I didnt give you a rematch because why? So you can keep trying till you win? I already said beating you made me feel all warm and fuzzy.

    By the way, my money is on Kena. That's if... You actually want to fight him? Maybe you're just bluffing? I don't know, can't tell now a days who has a back bone and who doesn't.

    Oh it's a bluff. @PrinceFabious and I go back and forth with this old challenge pretty frequently. He lost a bunch of fights to me a long time ago, won one on a meteor one shot right at the beginning of the duel (I hadn't prepared for that properly), joined Mighty at my invitation, lost a bunch more, left the guild, and still tries to talk big. :lol:

    Arinar, the only people in this game who respect you are your fellow faction zergers in EP. I hope you know that by now. It doesn't have to stay that way, though. I've offered you several opportunities to redeem your name via attitude and group size changes, guild invitations, and faction changes, and you keep resisting. :( Heck, sometime last year I even extended a trial invitation to Legion to help you change your company and play habits, and you chose Krotha of all people over us because he pads your ego. You feel good performing at the level of your company or greater than some of them, and you feel powerful as his right hand man. That's all well and good, but my god it's turned you into a tool. You're not a bad player. People disrespect you because you're a hypocrite with a big mouth. You lose duels and even fights and then talk down to duelers and small groupers who want even fights or rematches when you get a single win. You run in large groups and EP faction zergs and then talk down to more organized large group players such as VE members. You call people out on using broken sets such as Malubeth when your current company uses it just as much as anyone else, even if you don't. And when people, namely myself lately, call you out on this stuff on the forums, your only response is to call them "mad" or "salty" instead of actual logical rebuttals because it's all true and cannot be denied. You need a serious attitude adjustment.

    The easiest part to work on would be your Krotha Syndrome. Just because your group has 2 or 4 members does not mean you're running in a small group if half of the EP faction is at Bleakers with you. :lol:

    Also good on ya for taking the "elite" out of Myrmidon's description in your sig. I suggest you take the "small" out as well.

    I write this as civilly as I can because I care. I have to be straightforward with you, though. I'm 100% not trying to slander you or embarrass you in front of the forums -- this is all common knowledge, and I'm not the first to say it. I put this here for everyone to see in hopes that it gives you a reality check. Good luck.

    Ok, this would be a nice post if you were to post some truth instead of trying to slander my name. If you beat in a duel..You will not hear me talk bad about you.
    Time to put you in your place.
    You steal my builds, post videos a couple days after I post videos because you get jealous for some reason( even with the same V for Vendetta intro lol), and always try to single target me in group which results in lil AP for me. Watch recent broadcasts, you are in them.
    The people who cry about me are the people who have been face first underneath my boot in the dirt. Literally look at everyone who talks smack..people that ended up in the dirt.
    Didnt I win a 1v2 againts you and Zabus and you complained "cc bug." You have been put down many times which an immediate "bug" excuse when you lose. HMMMM? WHO ELSE BLAMED LOSING A DUEL ON BUGS RECENTLY? lololololollololol
    You are an attention ***. That is why you post too many discussions that everyones tired of. You are not recognized as a top pvper and thats why you live on here.
    Thats it
    Why would I wanna join Legion, a guild that wipes 100% in Open world lol
    Salty comments from you are the only way you will feel important.
    You seem to lost your PvP touch this patch and resorted to full forum mode lol
    Il keep telling you this, you are mad because we have won every encounter with you. CHECK the recent broadcasts. I can gladly link them since I seem to be the one actually posting proof.
    Who knows Zergbad might have a 4th of July special deal for you.

    Honestly, you have been irrelevant in PvP so this is starting to be a waste of time for me. I actually feel kinda bad for putting you down like this. Il stop here. Hope to see you regroup and reorganize your group with a couple practice sessions in before venturing off into Haddy.

    Oh you're serious.... :open_mouth: You actually do think you're the best player in the game. Holy crap I've been going about this all wrong. You're not a hypocrite -- you're delusional. o.0

    When I made my video back in the day to one up you, did you actually take it seriously? That was me poking fun at a fellow mageblade, and you devolved it into this massive grudge... Wow. If it's such a big deal to you, go make another video to one up me back, or just get over it. Good grief.

    As for my group, we consistently beat Adamant even when outnumbered, so I don't know what you mean when you talk down about us... We beat them group v group, [Snip] and Michael 2v5ed them through a couple of camps, Immortal and Leif and a pug 3v5 or 6ed them. Like...we're the most competitive 8 or less man group running around right now, so what's this talking down to us? :( Heck, just the other night, my 7 man group killed your group of 17 EP pushing on that blue scroll that Unruh's group took from BRK. I remember looking at the kill counter as you fled toward the resource, and then laughing as my Endless Fury got the killing blow on you from someone else's follow up burst. We had 4 brand new guildies in group that night, so we wiped many times too. The fights were practive for them, but they were still close despite us being so outnumbered.

    You've never 1v2ed me with anyone. You ganked Zav and then beat me on my stamblade in a long fight after you failed to gank me. Also I had you on the defensive... I was just new to stamblade, so you blew me up after a while. I was so squishy. :<

    And I've never stolen your builds. Heck, the only build I have ever even known of yours is Julianos destro resto, which is just an item set. I've been running destro resto for months longer than I've even known you, and I've never run Julianos with it. I've never seen you do destro resto with indefinite 2pc Kena procs or heavy self-heals or heavy armor. I've never seen you do a non-destro resto setup besides your proxy bomb one, which I have like 4 builds for. I have more snb, dual wield non-proxy, and healer builds than I have staff builds... I have over 2 dozen golded out armor sets and every weapon imaginable in every combat stat trait, all resulting from incessant theorycrafting. So please tell me what exactly I stole from you?

    The rest of your post is irrational dribble..

    If you want anyone here to actually believe a word you say or take you seriously, you'll have to chill out and come down to Earth with the rest of us.

    This is completely false lol. I don't think we've ever fought you guys "group v group, as we are always on TF. Not even sure who is in your group, but I would remember if we were consistently owned by another small group...maybe you are thinking of another guild than Adamant (or you failed to notice 20+ pugs around you?). I don't care to argue, but don't make stuff up to prove a point lol.

    We play on both campaigns, and we both know I don't roll with pugs around me. Lol One fight was by BRK farm, another northeast of Bleakers, a couple by Arrius, and idk where the 2vgroups were as I was not there for them. I even pursued you away from the group myself after the BRK and Bleakers fights. This isn't a jab at you or your group. We respect you. But don't come up in here jabbing at me when I'm getting called out by forum trolls.

    Going to keep this short and address the points highlighted above. No sugar coating. No salt.
    • Months ago, our group was at Aleswell Mine fighting VE and pugs. After some good fights, we were completely overwhelmed and almost wiped by the blues. @Aenlir (on an AoE group build) just barely survived the raids only to end up "dueling" you a second later at the same resource while the place was swarming with blues.
      Fast forward (maybe a day or 2 later), @Aenlir and I were at Arrius Lumber, getting ambush spammed and chased by a raid. You, standing a few meters in front of me, decided it would be "funny" to just mark spam me as I was desperately trying to cloak away (I was on my nb). And that wasn't the first time you did that.
    • The fight at BRK farm that took place a month ago, was a 2v8.
      2v8 as in it was @Aenlir and I on our mDKs vs. you and 7 other DC. The fight happened right behind the resource tower on the rocks and near the well. There were no AD pugs assisting us. If that's your idea of "consistently beating
      Adamant even when outnumbered" or "group v group"
      or "2v5" or "3v6" ... then kudos.
    • Your false claims are a jab at our group, hence the counter jabs. Please don't involve us in your petty epeen quarrels.
    This thread is the definition of garbage.
    And having to comment here makes me want to throw up. Refer to @zyk 's comment for further clarification.

    Yet you keep coming here..

    Notice how in each of your examples, I wasn't in the pug groups. I was off to a side. Thanks for supporting my point?

    Yes I fought Aenlir 1v1 up on those rocks at Ales mine. I gave him plenty of time to regen resources, but I also didn't let him get away either. I wanted to fight a good fight, which I got and which I won. Notice that I didn't record it or bring it up here... I figured he was in group spec. Whatever.

    When I mark spammed you that one time (near Arrius?), it was to help you get away. I'm the only one that can see you in cloak when I mark you, in case you weren't aware. Notice that I wasn't hitting you.

    And you did have AD with you at the BRK farm fight. There were like a dozen of you total, but only 4 were clustered up on you two. I remember one was named Zeronia, who I had never seen before but thought might be Zerona. I figured the rest were pugs, but Aenlir clarified that they all were. Regardless, we fought you and Aenlir and those 4 the one time that descended into the cliffs, after which he and I joked about it and I said gf. We were outnumbered by both AD and Rylana's EP at that resource and enjoyed some good fights all around. Why is your ego so threatened by that? You engaged into us, lost, and I told my group to leave you alone for the rest of our time there.

    I don't know where you get off claiming you were alone or that I zerg with pugs.. Goodness. And this isn't an epeen thread. Well, maybe it is for Arinar...but he finally left. I already explained that I'm only defending myself to him. Does that really threaten you so much?

    Since we're taking shots, though, you of all Adamant have the least room to talk down to me, perhaps aside from Kaiz, who just runs away. You and I dueled on mageblades forever ago, and I beat you like 3 times in a row with my RP walk on with Aenlir watching. Baited you to drop your healing ward spam defense each time. The only times you've managed to kill me were proxy DB combos in open world while I was fighting other people or standing around emoting by Aenlir. Despite your animosity, he and I get along quite well. You and I used to be friends too, but you removed me. Dunno why to this day.

    I have a photographic memory. I can't help but remember things exactly as they happened. This is also a transparent and open forum where all claims are subject to scrutiny by the community. I'll be the last to try to misrepresent events or make something up.

    Now shove off with your attitude. It's no place here.

    Never said you were in the pug group. But its nice to know you solo around pugs raids.

    Mark spammed me to help me get away... that too when mark suffered from the perma mark bug ? lol thanks youre too kind. :lol:

    Noone really wants to know if you have photographic memory but ok.
    From our pov it was me and @Aenlir Vs. you and all the dc that were with you. Recall it however you want to call it. We were outnumbered. Not you.
    @Aenlir should really tell you what he said at that time. Maybe then you would know how well you get along with him :lol:

    And what is this about my ego being threatened ?
    My ego is as it was. I don't need you to tell me where I stand in my own guild and amongst my friends.
    I accept defeat with humility when i'm beaten and don't make excuses. When I lost to you on my manablade, I could have told you that it was the start of IC and i was in purple gear with garbage traits like reinforced. But I didn't make any excuses and accepted that I lost and added you so that I could duel you later when i'm geared.
    And how did you react to your little win ?
    You came on the forums and started bragging about how you RP walked and defeated me when people wouldn't include you but included me on their Top NB NA lists even though i don't consider myself as one of the top NBs. And you wonder why I removed you from my friends list. :lol:
    Even now, when we are talking about group play you are trying to flex your virtual muscles, bringing the same story up in a failed attempt to discredit the points I have made against your original jabs at my guild.
    You say this isn't an epeen thread yet here you are showcasing your "victories". Everything you post screams epeen and "Notice me Senpai".

    And I'm the one with ego issues ? Get outta here :lol:


    Everyone hovers around the outside of big fights from time to time skirmishing in smaller scale action.

    Mark spammed as pseudo-troll because another NB was marking you too. And the permanent mark bug is a visual bug on your screen only. My mark only aided you to get away from him, whether you know how mark works or not.

    Aenlir and I are chill unless he has some grudge I don't know about too. I have nothing but respect or him. Regardless, it was a straight fight. Nothing to complain about aside from dying. He wasn't outnumbered versus me. In a more general sense, I've never wronged you or your group to deserve otherwise.

    When we dueled I was in infused and divines crafted gear, also purple. Far from ideal.

    And I did not find that post until Arinar mentioned me in it first, ironically, and he wasn't the only person. I only brought up my fights with others afterward when I was challenged.

    Why do people in this game cling to such inflated egos and feel a need to put each other down? Good grief. Go plaaaaay.

    Edit : Needed more quotation marks for victories :trollface:

    Mature.

    Also I'm amused that you, like Arinar, fall to raw, unfounded insults when you find yourself without a rational reply.

    Says the one who told me to shove off while gloating on personal wins when I presented rational arguments against a fake claim. :lol:

    Except the part where everything I said was correcting the flaws in your accounts of the stories? So yea, shove off with your *** attitude.
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    @KenaPKK the only fight I remember was the one at brk farm. That was just me and Ara, and you guys had a group. I also remember you using malubeth. I'm sure you remember it differently, so whatever, but if you don't see me, Mer, Ara, Mojican, Policy, Kaiz etc it's not a group v group.

    Edit: not salty or anything haha, just don't remember things the same I guess :D

    ^This.
    @KenaPKK - some people actually think you're a good player so if you truly are then you don't need to make (fake) publicity for you and your small-man by saying you beat us.
    I'm being honest here in saying I do not remember ever running into you (or the people in your small-man) except this one time when you were on your AD and you followed Mojican, Aenlir and I around for a bit, then this other time on your (main?) DC when you dueled Mojican and he beat you, after you tried to bomb us with bigger numbers and lost.

    I think this last one was at Chalman Lumber, but I could be wrong - I really don't pay attention to all these small details and make notes in my diary for future reference.
    This was a long time ago - haven't seen you since, fighting against us when we run our group or when we go out and duo.

    Also - why are you completely dodging Mojican's question?

    Yo chill. I'm not making publicity, and this thread isn't about Adamant. Heck I want this stupid conversation to end more than anyone. Arinar came up in here calling me out with his outrageous insults, and I'm defending myself and my boys. Unfortunately, he turned it into "he doesn't make fancy videos or try to get attention, therefore everything he says is false and he's bad."

    I have bombed Adamant twice ever. Nearly killed Policy once at Chalm mine, slipped out from under a detect pot, reappeared trying to /dance, got jumped on by him and Arnlir and died to another detect pot, came back at Chalm lumber and bombed again, died to mark and detect pot. Big deal, wasn't much of a chance to get him without an Alchemist build anyway, but it was fun. I was alone both times, and my group does not bomb outside of IC ever. Dunno who you are mistaking me for regarding the bombing and wiping despite outnumbering you.

    I've dueled Mojican 3 times. Once I was on my new stamblade. He was a 30k health stamplar with immov pots, and he rightfully rekt me. No surprise, I was learning stamblade, but that's what I do. I'm scrappy. I'll fight good players on new characters all day to learn them. Why's that suddenly ammo against me? Gtfo. Second time we dueled, I was on a brand new staffblade build. Couldn't outsustain him through the immovs, died, refined build. We still went a little while though. I was salty at the immov pots, which I believe is justified since you have to outsustain 30k health snb builds to win but cannot do so through immovability. I moved on. Third time, he was a magicka build, and we stalled. Still loved his immov pots (I'll never understand relying on those in 1v1s, but whatever). He and I have no beef about it, so why do you?

    I hadn't seen his question until you mentioned it. @manny254 if you need a formal fight that badly, be my guest. Hit up the people I mentioned. My first question when they told me about them was if they had recorded. They didn't, so I dropped it. This was over a month ago, and I only brought them up to put my group in perspective for Arinar. If I'd known Adamant cared so much as to come in swinging when I make some sideways comments to a pug, I'd have left it at the start. There's no disrespect here unless you're bringing it. I will warn you against throwing insults and rash assumptions though.

    God this thread has inflamed well beyond rationality. I am currently offline indefinitely due to computer trouble. Why don't you all go back to playing the game? I'm going to the beach where I won't be constantly bugged by notifications here. All the salt in the water will make me feel right at home. :trollface:

    You created a lie to boost your own ego. Of course I am going to call you on it. I would also love some organized fights, but please do not make up excuses like those lost duels. :#

    Where are lies or excuses?

    Are you role playing as a wall ? :lol:
    °‡° ÁDAMANT °‡°
    The Addon Abusers, Exploiters & Macro'ers Refuge
    •••• | Ara Valleria - AD NightBlade | Templàra Valleria - AD Templar | Åra Valleria - AD DragonKnight | Ára V - AD DragonKnight | Ara Laifu - DC NightBlade | Ara Waifu - EP Sorcerer | ••••

    ••••••| YOUTUBE |••••••
    Want to take a break from all the Lagging|Crashing|Cancer ?
    Play Albion Online
  • KenaPKK
    KenaPKK
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    @KenaPKK the only fight I remember was the one at brk farm. That was just me and Ara, and you guys had a group. I also remember you using malubeth. I'm sure you remember it differently, so whatever, but if you don't see me, Mer, Ara, Mojican, Policy, Kaiz etc it's not a group v group.

    Edit: not salty or anything haha, just don't remember things the same I guess :D

    ^This.
    @KenaPKK - some people actually think you're a good player so if you truly are then you don't need to make (fake) publicity for you and your small-man by saying you beat us.
    I'm being honest here in saying I do not remember ever running into you (or the people in your small-man) except this one time when you were on your AD and you followed Mojican, Aenlir and I around for a bit, then this other time on your (main?) DC when you dueled Mojican and he beat you, after you tried to bomb us with bigger numbers and lost.

    I think this last one was at Chalman Lumber, but I could be wrong - I really don't pay attention to all these small details and make notes in my diary for future reference.
    This was a long time ago - haven't seen you since, fighting against us when we run our group or when we go out and duo.

    Also - why are you completely dodging Mojican's question?

    Yo chill. I'm not making publicity, and this thread isn't about Adamant. Heck I want this stupid conversation to end more than anyone. Arinar came up in here calling me out with his outrageous insults, and I'm defending myself and my boys. Unfortunately, he turned it into "he doesn't make fancy videos or try to get attention, therefore everything he says is false and he's bad."

    I have bombed Adamant twice ever. Nearly killed Policy once at Chalm mine, slipped out from under a detect pot, reappeared trying to /dance, got jumped on by him and Arnlir and died to another detect pot, came back at Chalm lumber and bombed again, died to mark and detect pot. Big deal, wasn't much of a chance to get him without an Alchemist build anyway, but it was fun. I was alone both times, and my group does not bomb outside of IC ever. Dunno who you are mistaking me for regarding the bombing and wiping despite outnumbering you.

    I've dueled Mojican 3 times. Once I was on my new stamblade. He was a 30k health stamplar with immov pots, and he rightfully rekt me. No surprise, I was learning stamblade, but that's what I do. I'm scrappy. I'll fight good players on new characters all day to learn them. Why's that suddenly ammo against me? Gtfo. Second time we dueled, I was on a brand new staffblade build. Couldn't outsustain him through the immovs, died, refined build. We still went a little while though. I was salty at the immov pots, which I believe is justified since you have to outsustain 30k health snb builds to win but cannot do so through immovability. I moved on. Third time, he was a magicka build, and we stalled. Still loved his immov pots (I'll never understand relying on those in 1v1s, but whatever). He and I have no beef about it, so why do you?

    I hadn't seen his question until you mentioned it. @manny254 if you need a formal fight that badly, be my guest. Hit up the people I mentioned. My first question when they told me about them was if they had recorded. They didn't, so I dropped it. This was over a month ago, and I only brought them up to put my group in perspective for Arinar. If I'd known Adamant cared so much as to come in swinging when I make some sideways comments to a pug, I'd have left it at the start. There's no disrespect here unless you're bringing it. I will warn you against throwing insults and rash assumptions though.

    God this thread has inflamed well beyond rationality. I am currently offline indefinitely due to computer trouble. Why don't you all go back to playing the game? I'm going to the beach where I won't be constantly bugged by notifications here. All the salt in the water will make me feel right at home. :trollface:

    You created a lie to boost your own ego. Of course I am going to call you on it. I would also love some organized fights, but please do not make up excuses like those lost duels. :#

    Where are lies or excuses?

    You created a false story, and created excuses for loosing duels in 2 of the 3 instances you mentioned. I get the people in dueling guilds take those seriously, but you should instead take them as lessons to improve.

    Except for the part where there's no false story, and not being experienced in a class and your use of immov pots are perfectly valid reasons to lose duels? I'm not mad that I lost. I am simply stating the reasons why I lost. You even told me after the stamplar versus mageblade one "yea you just have to outsustain me since you can't burst through a 30k health snb." In what world can anyone outsustain you when you're using stamina immov pots? Duels are only an indicator of skill if they occur under a certain set of rules which balance the field. I made the mistake of assuming you understood this before fighting you. We should repeat these fights without you crutching on the immovability, yes? I'll even bring my stamblade and sorc if you like. Idk if I'll win on them yet, but I'm better than I used to be. And what is with you people and false stories? Just because Arinar cried lies doesn't mean there are actually lies. Don't listen to him. He cries about a lot of things. Lmao
    Kena
    Legion XIII
    Excellence without elitism
    Premier small scale PvP

    Legend
    NA/PC original dueling and general PvP community guild
    Now the hub of competitive dueling and the joined PvP communities of NA and EU/PC


    Apex Predator.

    Here's a great thread collecting community ideas for PvP updates.

    [MEGATHREAD] Feedback Threads for Class Reps

    Class Representative Feedback Discords:
    Nightblade Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/t2Xhnu6

    Dragonknight Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/UHtZhz8

    Sorcerer Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/e3QkCS8

    Templar Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/WvVuSw7

    Warden Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/sTFY4ys

    General Healing Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/6CmzBFb

    TONKS!
    https://discord.gg/DRNYd39

    Werewolf Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/aDEx2ev

    Vampire Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/yfzck8Q
  • KenaPKK
    KenaPKK
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Why do people in this game cling to such inflated egos and feel a need to put each other down? Good grief. Go plaaaaay.
    You should take your own advice.

    Hate to disappoint, but I don't need your affirmation or anyone's. If I came here for an ego boost, I'd have put out a video of my 5 man killing the dozen or so AD including your Exquisite Bedlam on the IC district flag a few weeks back. I'm not that type, though. I hate putting out vids and don't like talking about who I beat or what my group does. I am simply here to defend my boys from Arinar and now Adamant's bs. They work hard and have come far with me, and they don't deserve this kind of *** talk.

    Also I have computer issues, so I can not play now. :anguished: Moar little red notification bubbles pls.
    Dozen? Try evenly matched. And we wiped your group repeatedly to the point you had to drag a boss over. You talk a lot, but your in game play tells it all.

    Um The stairs were covered with you all, I had a group of 5, the fight took one attempt, and we definitely didn't drag a boss over LOL. Idk what you're remembering.
    Your memory is failing you.

    Proof? You came in here to *** talk me because you hold some ancient grudge against me. Provide proof or gtfo.
    Kena
    Legion XIII
    Excellence without elitism
    Premier small scale PvP

    Legend
    NA/PC original dueling and general PvP community guild
    Now the hub of competitive dueling and the joined PvP communities of NA and EU/PC


    Apex Predator.

    Here's a great thread collecting community ideas for PvP updates.

    [MEGATHREAD] Feedback Threads for Class Reps

    Class Representative Feedback Discords:
    Nightblade Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/t2Xhnu6

    Dragonknight Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/UHtZhz8

    Sorcerer Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/e3QkCS8

    Templar Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/WvVuSw7

    Warden Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/sTFY4ys

    General Healing Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/6CmzBFb

    TONKS!
    https://discord.gg/DRNYd39

    Werewolf Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/aDEx2ev

    Vampire Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/yfzck8Q
  • Cinnamon_Spider
    Cinnamon_Spider
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Why do people in this game cling to such inflated egos and feel a need to put each other down? Good grief. Go plaaaaay.
    You should take your own advice.

    Hate to disappoint, but I don't need your affirmation or anyone's. If I came here for an ego boost, I'd have put out a video of my 5 man killing the dozen or so AD including your Exquisite Bedlam on the IC district flag a few weeks back. I'm not that type, though. I hate putting out vids and don't like talking about who I beat or what my group does. I am simply here to defend my boys from Arinar and now Adamant's bs. They work hard and have come far with me, and they don't deserve this kind of *** talk.

    Also I have computer issues, so I can not play now. :anguished: Moar little red notification bubbles pls.
    Dozen? Try evenly matched. And we wiped your group repeatedly to the point you had to drag a boss over. You talk a lot, but your in game play tells it all.

    Um The stairs were covered with you all, I had a group of 5, the fight took one attempt, and we definitely didn't drag a boss over LOL. Idk what you're remembering.
    Your memory is failing you.

    Proof? You came in here to *** talk me because you hold some ancient grudge against me. Provide proof or gtfo.
    I don't need to provide proof. My ego is unbruised. Those that were there know what happened.

    Your group just needs more practice running together and needs to work on changing up sets/skills to support each other. Then you won't need to drag PVE into your PVP.
    Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
    Exquisite Bedlam - Sorcerer AD rank 34
    Cinnamonspiderdreams - Sorcerer EP rank 24
    Synaris Astarte - Templar DC rank 24
    Cinnamon Spider - Nightblade AD

    Youtube - Cinnamon_Spider
  • KenaPKK
    KenaPKK
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    I love how I came in here to mention Krotha and Arinar's scrub squad, but they've already been mentioned. ^^

    Hey, are you still mad about us farming yall at Ash mine today? We were there because we couldnt find action. Please dont be mad. Youve been mad for a while now. Its not good for you. I will be happy to duel you to help you get better :)

    You sure you want to duel him to help him get better? Or are your fingers ready on the log out button if you manage to get a fluke. :*

    Don't talk about dueling when you actually ran away from a fight on the PTS server of all things.

    Didnt you blame bugs on your defeat? Didnt we test them out after and realized that they fixed cloak and my AoE was keeping you out. Fluke? And PTS? what gear were you testing out? We were using the same builds PTS or not. Yes, I didnt give you a rematch because why? So you can keep trying till you win? I already said beating you made me feel all warm and fuzzy.

    By the way, my money is on Kena. That's if... You actually want to fight him? Maybe you're just bluffing? I don't know, can't tell now a days who has a back bone and who doesn't.

    Oh it's a bluff. @PrinceFabious and I go back and forth with this old challenge pretty frequently. He lost a bunch of fights to me a long time ago, won one on a meteor one shot right at the beginning of the duel (I hadn't prepared for that properly), joined Mighty at my invitation, lost a bunch more, left the guild, and still tries to talk big. :lol:

    Arinar, the only people in this game who respect you are your fellow faction zergers in EP. I hope you know that by now. It doesn't have to stay that way, though. I've offered you several opportunities to redeem your name via attitude and group size changes, guild invitations, and faction changes, and you keep resisting. :( Heck, sometime last year I even extended a trial invitation to Legion to help you change your company and play habits, and you chose Krotha of all people over us because he pads your ego. You feel good performing at the level of your company or greater than some of them, and you feel powerful as his right hand man. That's all well and good, but my god it's turned you into a tool. You're not a bad player. People disrespect you because you're a hypocrite with a big mouth. You lose duels and even fights and then talk down to duelers and small groupers who want even fights or rematches when you get a single win. You run in large groups and EP faction zergs and then talk down to more organized large group players such as VE members. You call people out on using broken sets such as Malubeth when your current company uses it just as much as anyone else, even if you don't. And when people, namely myself lately, call you out on this stuff on the forums, your only response is to call them "mad" or "salty" instead of actual logical rebuttals because it's all true and cannot be denied. You need a serious attitude adjustment.

    The easiest part to work on would be your Krotha Syndrome. Just because your group has 2 or 4 members does not mean you're running in a small group if half of the EP faction is at Bleakers with you. :lol:

    Also good on ya for taking the "elite" out of Myrmidon's description in your sig. I suggest you take the "small" out as well.

    I write this as civilly as I can because I care. I have to be straightforward with you, though. I'm 100% not trying to slander you or embarrass you in front of the forums -- this is all common knowledge, and I'm not the first to say it. I put this here for everyone to see in hopes that it gives you a reality check. Good luck.

    Ok, this would be a nice post if you were to post some truth instead of trying to slander my name. If you beat in a duel..You will not hear me talk bad about you.
    Time to put you in your place.
    You steal my builds, post videos a couple days after I post videos because you get jealous for some reason( even with the same V for Vendetta intro lol), and always try to single target me in group which results in lil AP for me. Watch recent broadcasts, you are in them.
    The people who cry about me are the people who have been face first underneath my boot in the dirt. Literally look at everyone who talks smack..people that ended up in the dirt.
    Didnt I win a 1v2 againts you and Zabus and you complained "cc bug." You have been put down many times which an immediate "bug" excuse when you lose. HMMMM? WHO ELSE BLAMED LOSING A DUEL ON BUGS RECENTLY? lololololollololol
    You are an attention ***. That is why you post too many discussions that everyones tired of. You are not recognized as a top pvper and thats why you live on here.
    Thats it
    Why would I wanna join Legion, a guild that wipes 100% in Open world lol
    Salty comments from you are the only way you will feel important.
    You seem to lost your PvP touch this patch and resorted to full forum mode lol
    Il keep telling you this, you are mad because we have won every encounter with you. CHECK the recent broadcasts. I can gladly link them since I seem to be the one actually posting proof.
    Who knows Zergbad might have a 4th of July special deal for you.

    Honestly, you have been irrelevant in PvP so this is starting to be a waste of time for me. I actually feel kinda bad for putting you down like this. Il stop here. Hope to see you regroup and reorganize your group with a couple practice sessions in before venturing off into Haddy.

    Oh you're serious.... :open_mouth: You actually do think you're the best player in the game. Holy crap I've been going about this all wrong. You're not a hypocrite -- you're delusional. o.0

    When I made my video back in the day to one up you, did you actually take it seriously? That was me poking fun at a fellow mageblade, and you devolved it into this massive grudge... Wow. If it's such a big deal to you, go make another video to one up me back, or just get over it. Good grief.

    As for my group, we consistently beat Adamant even when outnumbered, so I don't know what you mean when you talk down about us... We beat them group v group, [Snip] and Michael 2v5ed them through a couple of camps, Immortal and Leif and a pug 3v5 or 6ed them. Like...we're the most competitive 8 or less man group running around right now, so what's this talking down to us? :( Heck, just the other night, my 7 man group killed your group of 17 EP pushing on that blue scroll that Unruh's group took from BRK. I remember looking at the kill counter as you fled toward the resource, and then laughing as my Endless Fury got the killing blow on you from someone else's follow up burst. We had 4 brand new guildies in group that night, so we wiped many times too. The fights were practive for them, but they were still close despite us being so outnumbered.

    You've never 1v2ed me with anyone. You ganked Zav and then beat me on my stamblade in a long fight after you failed to gank me. Also I had you on the defensive... I was just new to stamblade, so you blew me up after a while. I was so squishy. :<

    And I've never stolen your builds. Heck, the only build I have ever even known of yours is Julianos destro resto, which is just an item set. I've been running destro resto for months longer than I've even known you, and I've never run Julianos with it. I've never seen you do destro resto with indefinite 2pc Kena procs or heavy self-heals or heavy armor. I've never seen you do a non-destro resto setup besides your proxy bomb one, which I have like 4 builds for. I have more snb, dual wield non-proxy, and healer builds than I have staff builds... I have over 2 dozen golded out armor sets and every weapon imaginable in every combat stat trait, all resulting from incessant theorycrafting. So please tell me what exactly I stole from you?

    The rest of your post is irrational dribble..

    If you want anyone here to actually believe a word you say or take you seriously, you'll have to chill out and come down to Earth with the rest of us.

    This is completely false lol. I don't think we've ever fought you guys "group v group, as we are always on TF. Not even sure who is in your group, but I would remember if we were consistently owned by another small group...maybe you are thinking of another guild than Adamant (or you failed to notice 20+ pugs around you?). I don't care to argue, but don't make stuff up to prove a point lol.

    We play on both campaigns, and we both know I don't roll with pugs around me. Lol One fight was by BRK farm, another northeast of Bleakers, a couple by Arrius, and idk where the 2vgroups were as I was not there for them. I even pursued you away from the group myself after the BRK and Bleakers fights. This isn't a jab at you or your group. We respect you. But don't come up in here jabbing at me when I'm getting called out by forum trolls.

    Going to keep this short and address the points highlighted above. No sugar coating. No salt.
    • Months ago, our group was at Aleswell Mine fighting VE and pugs. After some good fights, we were completely overwhelmed and almost wiped by the blues. @Aenlir (on an AoE group build) just barely survived the raids only to end up "dueling" you a second later at the same resource while the place was swarming with blues.
      Fast forward (maybe a day or 2 later), @Aenlir and I were at Arrius Lumber, getting ambush spammed and chased by a raid. You, standing a few meters in front of me, decided it would be "funny" to just mark spam me as I was desperately trying to cloak away (I was on my nb). And that wasn't the first time you did that.
    • The fight at BRK farm that took place a month ago, was a 2v8.
      2v8 as in it was @Aenlir and I on our mDKs vs. you and 7 other DC. The fight happened right behind the resource tower on the rocks and near the well. There were no AD pugs assisting us. If that's your idea of "consistently beating
      Adamant even when outnumbered" or "group v group"
      or "2v5" or "3v6" ... then kudos.
    • Your false claims are a jab at our group, hence the counter jabs. Please don't involve us in your petty epeen quarrels.
    This thread is the definition of garbage.
    And having to comment here makes me want to throw up. Refer to @zyk 's comment for further clarification.

    Yet you keep coming here..

    Notice how in each of your examples, I wasn't in the pug groups. I was off to a side. Thanks for supporting my point?

    Yes I fought Aenlir 1v1 up on those rocks at Ales mine. I gave him plenty of time to regen resources, but I also didn't let him get away either. I wanted to fight a good fight, which I got and which I won. Notice that I didn't record it or bring it up here... I figured he was in group spec. Whatever.

    When I mark spammed you that one time (near Arrius?), it was to help you get away. I'm the only one that can see you in cloak when I mark you, in case you weren't aware. Notice that I wasn't hitting you.

    And you did have AD with you at the BRK farm fight. There were like a dozen of you total, but only 4 were clustered up on you two. I remember one was named Zeronia, who I had never seen before but thought might be Zerona. I figured the rest were pugs, but Aenlir clarified that they all were. Regardless, we fought you and Aenlir and those 4 the one time that descended into the cliffs, after which he and I joked about it and I said gf. We were outnumbered by both AD and Rylana's EP at that resource and enjoyed some good fights all around. Why is your ego so threatened by that? You engaged into us, lost, and I told my group to leave you alone for the rest of our time there.

    I don't know where you get off claiming you were alone or that I zerg with pugs.. Goodness. And this isn't an epeen thread. Well, maybe it is for Arinar...but he finally left. I already explained that I'm only defending myself to him. Does that really threaten you so much?

    Since we're taking shots, though, you of all Adamant have the least room to talk down to me, perhaps aside from Kaiz, who just runs away. You and I dueled on mageblades forever ago, and I beat you like 3 times in a row with my RP walk on with Aenlir watching. Baited you to drop your healing ward spam defense each time. The only times you've managed to kill me were proxy DB combos in open world while I was fighting other people or standing around emoting by Aenlir. Despite your animosity, he and I get along quite well. You and I used to be friends too, but you removed me. Dunno why to this day.

    I have a photographic memory. I can't help but remember things exactly as they happened. This is also a transparent and open forum where all claims are subject to scrutiny by the community. I'll be the last to try to misrepresent events or make something up.

    Now shove off with your attitude. It's no place here.

    Never said you were in the pug group. But its nice to know you solo around pugs raids.

    Mark spammed me to help me get away... that too when mark suffered from the perma mark bug ? lol thanks youre too kind. :lol:

    Noone really wants to know if you have photographic memory but ok.
    From our pov it was me and @Aenlir Vs. you and all the dc that were with you. Recall it however you want to call it. We were outnumbered. Not you.
    @Aenlir should really tell you what he said at that time. Maybe then you would know how well you get along with him :lol:

    And what is this about my ego being threatened ?
    My ego is as it was. I don't need you to tell me where I stand in my own guild and amongst my friends.
    I accept defeat with humility when i'm beaten and don't make excuses. When I lost to you on my manablade, I could have told you that it was the start of IC and i was in purple gear with garbage traits like reinforced. But I didn't make any excuses and accepted that I lost and added you so that I could duel you later when i'm geared.
    And how did you react to your little win ?
    You came on the forums and started bragging about how you RP walked and defeated me when people wouldn't include you but included me on their Top NB NA lists even though i don't consider myself as one of the top NBs. And you wonder why I removed you from my friends list. :lol:
    Even now, when we are talking about group play you are trying to flex your virtual muscles, bringing the same story up in a failed attempt to discredit the points I have made against your original jabs at my guild.
    You say this isn't an epeen thread yet here you are showcasing your "victories". Everything you post screams epeen and "Notice me Senpai".

    And I'm the one with ego issues ? Get outta here :lol:


    Everyone hovers around the outside of big fights from time to time skirmishing in smaller scale action.

    Mark spammed as pseudo-troll because another NB was marking you too. And the permanent mark bug is a visual bug on your screen only. My mark only aided you to get away from him, whether you know how mark works or not.

    Aenlir and I are chill unless he has some grudge I don't know about too. I have nothing but respect or him. Regardless, it was a straight fight. Nothing to complain about aside from dying. He wasn't outnumbered versus me. In a more general sense, I've never wronged you or your group to deserve otherwise.

    When we dueled I was in infused and divines crafted gear, also purple. Far from ideal.

    And I did not find that post until Arinar mentioned me in it first, ironically, and he wasn't the only person. I only brought up my fights with others afterward when I was challenged.

    Why do people in this game cling to such inflated egos and feel a need to put each other down? Good grief. Go plaaaaay.

    Edit : Needed more quotation marks for victories :trollface:

    Mature.

    Also I'm amused that you, like Arinar, fall to raw, unfounded insults when you find yourself without a rational reply.

    Says the one who told me to shove off while gloating on personal wins when I presented rational arguments against a fake claim. :lol:

    Except the part where everything I said was correcting the flaws in your accounts of the stories? So yea, shove off with your *** attitude.
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    @KenaPKK the only fight I remember was the one at brk farm. That was just me and Ara, and you guys had a group. I also remember you using malubeth. I'm sure you remember it differently, so whatever, but if you don't see me, Mer, Ara, Mojican, Policy, Kaiz etc it's not a group v group.

    Edit: not salty or anything haha, just don't remember things the same I guess :D

    ^This.
    @KenaPKK - some people actually think you're a good player so if you truly are then you don't need to make (fake) publicity for you and your small-man by saying you beat us.
    I'm being honest here in saying I do not remember ever running into you (or the people in your small-man) except this one time when you were on your AD and you followed Mojican, Aenlir and I around for a bit, then this other time on your (main?) DC when you dueled Mojican and he beat you, after you tried to bomb us with bigger numbers and lost.

    I think this last one was at Chalman Lumber, but I could be wrong - I really don't pay attention to all these small details and make notes in my diary for future reference.
    This was a long time ago - haven't seen you since, fighting against us when we run our group or when we go out and duo.

    Also - why are you completely dodging Mojican's question?

    Yo chill. I'm not making publicity, and this thread isn't about Adamant. Heck I want this stupid conversation to end more than anyone. Arinar came up in here calling me out with his outrageous insults, and I'm defending myself and my boys. Unfortunately, he turned it into "he doesn't make fancy videos or try to get attention, therefore everything he says is false and he's bad."

    I have bombed Adamant twice ever. Nearly killed Policy once at Chalm mine, slipped out from under a detect pot, reappeared trying to /dance, got jumped on by him and Arnlir and died to another detect pot, came back at Chalm lumber and bombed again, died to mark and detect pot. Big deal, wasn't much of a chance to get him without an Alchemist build anyway, but it was fun. I was alone both times, and my group does not bomb outside of IC ever. Dunno who you are mistaking me for regarding the bombing and wiping despite outnumbering you.

    I've dueled Mojican 3 times. Once I was on my new stamblade. He was a 30k health stamplar with immov pots, and he rightfully rekt me. No surprise, I was learning stamblade, but that's what I do. I'm scrappy. I'll fight good players on new characters all day to learn them. Why's that suddenly ammo against me? Gtfo. Second time we dueled, I was on a brand new staffblade build. Couldn't outsustain him through the immovs, died, refined build. We still went a little while though. I was salty at the immov pots, which I believe is justified since you have to outsustain 30k health snb builds to win but cannot do so through immovability. I moved on. Third time, he was a magicka build, and we stalled. Still loved his immov pots (I'll never understand relying on those in 1v1s, but whatever). He and I have no beef about it, so why do you?

    I hadn't seen his question until you mentioned it. @manny254 if you need a formal fight that badly, be my guest. Hit up the people I mentioned. My first question when they told me about them was if they had recorded. They didn't, so I dropped it. This was over a month ago, and I only brought them up to put my group in perspective for Arinar. If I'd known Adamant cared so much as to come in swinging when I make some sideways comments to a pug, I'd have left it at the start. There's no disrespect here unless you're bringing it. I will warn you against throwing insults and rash assumptions though.

    God this thread has inflamed well beyond rationality. I am currently offline indefinitely due to computer trouble. Why don't you all go back to playing the game? I'm going to the beach where I won't be constantly bugged by notifications here. All the salt in the water will make me feel right at home. :trollface:

    You created a lie to boost your own ego. Of course I am going to call you on it. I would also love some organized fights, but please do not make up excuses like those lost duels. :#

    Where are lies or excuses?

    Are you role playing as a wall ? :lol:

    You too. This argument was originally between me and Arinar. He left when I shut him down. Therefore the conversation is over.

    Except now you've rallied Adamant to come cry against me to save some kind of ego or whatever. But I wasn't even talking to you. Jesus Christ.

    I said my bit to Arinar, and now you've all shown up challenging it. If you don't have video proof to back up your claims that I'm making something up, then you can back down right now.

    Edit: I'll add how convenient it is that you and the other Adamant folks completely ignore Leif's account of his fight versus you personally. Read up.
    Edited by KenaPKK on July 5, 2016 11:16PM
    Kena
    Legion XIII
    Excellence without elitism
    Premier small scale PvP

    Legend
    NA/PC original dueling and general PvP community guild
    Now the hub of competitive dueling and the joined PvP communities of NA and EU/PC


    Apex Predator.

    Here's a great thread collecting community ideas for PvP updates.

    [MEGATHREAD] Feedback Threads for Class Reps

    Class Representative Feedback Discords:
    Nightblade Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/t2Xhnu6

    Dragonknight Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/UHtZhz8

    Sorcerer Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/e3QkCS8

    Templar Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/WvVuSw7

    Warden Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/sTFY4ys

    General Healing Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/6CmzBFb

    TONKS!
    https://discord.gg/DRNYd39

    Werewolf Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/aDEx2ev

    Vampire Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/yfzck8Q
  • KenaPKK
    KenaPKK
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Why do people in this game cling to such inflated egos and feel a need to put each other down? Good grief. Go plaaaaay.
    You should take your own advice.

    Hate to disappoint, but I don't need your affirmation or anyone's. If I came here for an ego boost, I'd have put out a video of my 5 man killing the dozen or so AD including your Exquisite Bedlam on the IC district flag a few weeks back. I'm not that type, though. I hate putting out vids and don't like talking about who I beat or what my group does. I am simply here to defend my boys from Arinar and now Adamant's bs. They work hard and have come far with me, and they don't deserve this kind of *** talk.

    Also I have computer issues, so I can not play now. :anguished: Moar little red notification bubbles pls.
    Dozen? Try evenly matched. And we wiped your group repeatedly to the point you had to drag a boss over. You talk a lot, but your in game play tells it all.

    Um The stairs were covered with you all, I had a group of 5, the fight took one attempt, and we definitely didn't drag a boss over LOL. Idk what you're remembering.
    Your memory is failing you.

    Proof? You came in here to *** talk me because you hold some ancient grudge against me. Provide proof or gtfo.
    I don't need to provide proof. My ego is unbruised. Those that were there know what happened.

    Your group just needs more practice running together and needs to work on changing up sets/skills to support each other. Then you won't need to drag PVE into your PVP.

    If you're incapable of backing up your insults, then don't bring them into a conversation that doesn't concern you. It's pretty clear by your back-peddling who really knows what happened there.
    Kena
    Legion XIII
    Excellence without elitism
    Premier small scale PvP

    Legend
    NA/PC original dueling and general PvP community guild
    Now the hub of competitive dueling and the joined PvP communities of NA and EU/PC


    Apex Predator.

    Here's a great thread collecting community ideas for PvP updates.

    [MEGATHREAD] Feedback Threads for Class Reps

    Class Representative Feedback Discords:
    Nightblade Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/t2Xhnu6

    Dragonknight Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/UHtZhz8

    Sorcerer Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/e3QkCS8

    Templar Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/WvVuSw7

    Warden Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/sTFY4ys

    General Healing Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/6CmzBFb

    TONKS!
    https://discord.gg/DRNYd39

    Werewolf Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/aDEx2ev

    Vampire Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/yfzck8Q
  • PrinceFabious
    PrinceFabious
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    @KenaPKK You have mentioned my name about 10 times since my last reply LOL. The entire community is againts you man. Your lies have been exposed bud. Sorry man..its a fight you have lost.


    Take the advice everyone is trying to give you. Try practicing with your group. Learn to combine ultimates instead of typing on the forums. Aka l2p before talking big lol
    Edited by PrinceFabious on July 5, 2016 11:22PM
  • Cinnamon_Spider
    Cinnamon_Spider
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Why do people in this game cling to such inflated egos and feel a need to put each other down? Good grief. Go plaaaaay.
    You should take your own advice.

    Hate to disappoint, but I don't need your affirmation or anyone's. If I came here for an ego boost, I'd have put out a video of my 5 man killing the dozen or so AD including your Exquisite Bedlam on the IC district flag a few weeks back. I'm not that type, though. I hate putting out vids and don't like talking about who I beat or what my group does. I am simply here to defend my boys from Arinar and now Adamant's bs. They work hard and have come far with me, and they don't deserve this kind of *** talk.

    Also I have computer issues, so I can not play now. :anguished: Moar little red notification bubbles pls.
    Dozen? Try evenly matched. And we wiped your group repeatedly to the point you had to drag a boss over. You talk a lot, but your in game play tells it all.

    Um The stairs were covered with you all, I had a group of 5, the fight took one attempt, and we definitely didn't drag a boss over LOL. Idk what you're remembering.
    Your memory is failing you.

    Proof? You came in here to *** talk me because you hold some ancient grudge against me. Provide proof or gtfo.
    I don't need to provide proof. My ego is unbruised. Those that were there know what happened.

    Your group just needs more practice running together and needs to work on changing up sets/skills to support each other. Then you won't need to drag PVE into your PVP.

    If you're incapable of backing up your insults, then don't bring them into a conversation that doesn't concern you. It's pretty clear by your back-peddling who really knows what happened there.
    I'm not back peddling at all. We had evenly matched groups and we defended multiple attempts of your group to push the flag. In the end, you guys brought over the boss from that area and the AOE did us in.
    Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
    Exquisite Bedlam - Sorcerer AD rank 34
    Cinnamonspiderdreams - Sorcerer EP rank 24
    Synaris Astarte - Templar DC rank 24
    Cinnamon Spider - Nightblade AD

    Youtube - Cinnamon_Spider
  • manny254
    manny254
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    @KenaPKK the only fight I remember was the one at brk farm. That was just me and Ara, and you guys had a group. I also remember you using malubeth. I'm sure you remember it differently, so whatever, but if you don't see me, Mer, Ara, Mojican, Policy, Kaiz etc it's not a group v group.

    Edit: not salty or anything haha, just don't remember things the same I guess :D

    ^This.
    @KenaPKK - some people actually think you're a good player so if you truly are then you don't need to make (fake) publicity for you and your small-man by saying you beat us.
    I'm being honest here in saying I do not remember ever running into you (or the people in your small-man) except this one time when you were on your AD and you followed Mojican, Aenlir and I around for a bit, then this other time on your (main?) DC when you dueled Mojican and he beat you, after you tried to bomb us with bigger numbers and lost.

    I think this last one was at Chalman Lumber, but I could be wrong - I really don't pay attention to all these small details and make notes in my diary for future reference.
    This was a long time ago - haven't seen you since, fighting against us when we run our group or when we go out and duo.

    Also - why are you completely dodging Mojican's question?

    Yo chill. I'm not making publicity, and this thread isn't about Adamant. Heck I want this stupid conversation to end more than anyone. Arinar came up in here calling me out with his outrageous insults, and I'm defending myself and my boys. Unfortunately, he turned it into "he doesn't make fancy videos or try to get attention, therefore everything he says is false and he's bad."

    I have bombed Adamant twice ever. Nearly killed Policy once at Chalm mine, slipped out from under a detect pot, reappeared trying to /dance, got jumped on by him and Arnlir and died to another detect pot, came back at Chalm lumber and bombed again, died to mark and detect pot. Big deal, wasn't much of a chance to get him without an Alchemist build anyway, but it was fun. I was alone both times, and my group does not bomb outside of IC ever. Dunno who you are mistaking me for regarding the bombing and wiping despite outnumbering you.

    I've dueled Mojican 3 times. Once I was on my new stamblade. He was a 30k health stamplar with immov pots, and he rightfully rekt me. No surprise, I was learning stamblade, but that's what I do. I'm scrappy. I'll fight good players on new characters all day to learn them. Why's that suddenly ammo against me? Gtfo. Second time we dueled, I was on a brand new staffblade build. Couldn't outsustain him through the immovs, died, refined build. We still went a little while though. I was salty at the immov pots, which I believe is justified since you have to outsustain 30k health snb builds to win but cannot do so through immovability. I moved on. Third time, he was a magicka build, and we stalled. Still loved his immov pots (I'll never understand relying on those in 1v1s, but whatever). He and I have no beef about it, so why do you?

    I hadn't seen his question until you mentioned it. @manny254 if you need a formal fight that badly, be my guest. Hit up the people I mentioned. My first question when they told me about them was if they had recorded. They didn't, so I dropped it. This was over a month ago, and I only brought them up to put my group in perspective for Arinar. If I'd known Adamant cared so much as to come in swinging when I make some sideways comments to a pug, I'd have left it at the start. There's no disrespect here unless you're bringing it. I will warn you against throwing insults and rash assumptions though.

    God this thread has inflamed well beyond rationality. I am currently offline indefinitely due to computer trouble. Why don't you all go back to playing the game? I'm going to the beach where I won't be constantly bugged by notifications here. All the salt in the water will make me feel right at home. :trollface:

    You created a lie to boost your own ego. Of course I am going to call you on it. I would also love some organized fights, but please do not make up excuses like those lost duels. :#

    Where are lies or excuses?

    You created a false story, and created excuses for loosing duels in 2 of the 3 instances you mentioned. I get the people in dueling guilds take those seriously, but you should instead take them as lessons to improve.

    Except for the part where there's no false story, and not being experienced in a class and your use of immov pots are perfectly valid reasons to lose duels? I'm not mad that I lost. I am simply stating the reasons why I lost. You even told me after the stamplar versus mageblade one "yea you just have to outsustain me since you can't burst through a 30k health snb." In what world can anyone outsustain you when you're using stamina immov pots? Duels are only an indicator of skill if they occur under a certain set of rules which balance the field. I made the mistake of assuming you understood this before fighting you. We should repeat these fights without you crutching on the immovability, yes? I'll even bring my stamblade and sorc if you like. Idk if I'll win on them yet, but I'm better than I used to be. And what is with you people and false stories? Just because Arinar cried lies doesn't mean there are actually lies. Don't listen to him. He cries about a lot of things. Lmao

    You and Arinar are made for each other. You should really get a room together. Oh the delusions you could create together. The world would be scared.

    Something I use is a valid excuse for your failure? How does that logic follow? Why is it bad that I build for a sustained fight, and try to counter the burst builds of 90% of the community? Can the leader of the "Elite" Dueling Guild not out sustain a player that has never been in any dueling guild? I am sick of people complaining about immov pots. It is essentially complaining that you can not constantly try to burst someone. I am sorry that I enjoy more than just bursting other players, and if they really bother you go buy some instead of blaming me.
    - Mojican
  • Lore_lai
    Lore_lai
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    @KenaPKK the only fight I remember was the one at brk farm. That was just me and Ara, and you guys had a group. I also remember you using malubeth. I'm sure you remember it differently, so whatever, but if you don't see me, Mer, Ara, Mojican, Policy, Kaiz etc it's not a group v group.

    Edit: not salty or anything haha, just don't remember things the same I guess :D

    ^This.
    @KenaPKK - some people actually think you're a good player so if you truly are then you don't need to make (fake) publicity for you and your small-man by saying you beat us.
    I'm being honest here in saying I do not remember ever running into you (or the people in your small-man) except this one time when you were on your AD and you followed Mojican, Aenlir and I around for a bit, then this other time on your (main?) DC when you dueled Mojican and he beat you, after you tried to bomb us with bigger numbers and lost.

    I think this last one was at Chalman Lumber, but I could be wrong - I really don't pay attention to all these small details and make notes in my diary for future reference.
    This was a long time ago - haven't seen you since, fighting against us when we run our group or when we go out and duo.

    Also - why are you completely dodging Mojican's question?

    Yo chill. I'm not making publicity, and this thread isn't about Adamant. Heck I want this stupid conversation to end more than anyone. Arinar came up in here calling me out with his outrageous insults, and I'm defending myself and my boys. Unfortunately, he turned it into "he doesn't make fancy videos or try to get attention, therefore everything he says is false and he's bad."

    I have bombed Adamant twice ever. Nearly killed Policy once at Chalm mine, slipped out from under a detect pot, reappeared trying to /dance, got jumped on by him and Arnlir and died to another detect pot, came back at Chalm lumber and bombed again, died to mark and detect pot. Big deal, wasn't much of a chance to get him without an Alchemist build anyway, but it was fun. I was alone both times, and my group does not bomb outside of IC ever. Dunno who you are mistaking me for regarding the bombing and wiping despite outnumbering you.

    I've dueled Mojican 3 times. Once I was on my new stamblade. He was a 30k health stamplar with immov pots, and he rightfully rekt me. No surprise, I was learning stamblade, but that's what I do. I'm scrappy. I'll fight good players on new characters all day to learn them. Why's that suddenly ammo against me? Gtfo. Second time we dueled, I was on a brand new staffblade build. Couldn't outsustain him through the immovs, died, refined build. We still went a little while though. I was salty at the immov pots, which I believe is justified since you have to outsustain 30k health snb builds to win but cannot do so through immovability. I moved on. Third time, he was a magicka build, and we stalled. Still loved his immov pots (I'll never understand relying on those in 1v1s, but whatever). He and I have no beef about it, so why do you?

    I hadn't seen his question until you mentioned it. @manny254 if you need a formal fight that badly, be my guest. Hit up the people I mentioned. My first question when they told me about them was if they had recorded. They didn't, so I dropped it. This was over a month ago, and I only brought them up to put my group in perspective for Arinar. If I'd known Adamant cared so much as to come in swinging when I make some sideways comments to a pug, I'd have left it at the start. There's no disrespect here unless you're bringing it. I will warn you against throwing insults and rash assumptions though.

    God this thread has inflamed well beyond rationality. I am currently offline indefinitely due to computer trouble. Why don't you all go back to playing the game? I'm going to the beach where I won't be constantly bugged by notifications here. All the salt in the water will make me feel right at home. :trollface:

    Lol, chill? Re-read your post(s) and see who needs to chill. :smile: I can almost hear you breathing heavily behind this post you made.
    Also, dude - I have no beef with you or however you want to play - do whatever you want, man - 1vx in a tutu for all I care. Just don't make stuff up, is all.
  • Ara_Valleria
    Ara_Valleria
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    I love how I came in here to mention Krotha and Arinar's scrub squad, but they've already been mentioned. ^^

    Hey, are you still mad about us farming yall at Ash mine today? We were there because we couldnt find action. Please dont be mad. Youve been mad for a while now. Its not good for you. I will be happy to duel you to help you get better :)

    You sure you want to duel him to help him get better? Or are your fingers ready on the log out button if you manage to get a fluke. :*

    Don't talk about dueling when you actually ran away from a fight on the PTS server of all things.

    Didnt you blame bugs on your defeat? Didnt we test them out after and realized that they fixed cloak and my AoE was keeping you out. Fluke? And PTS? what gear were you testing out? We were using the same builds PTS or not. Yes, I didnt give you a rematch because why? So you can keep trying till you win? I already said beating you made me feel all warm and fuzzy.

    By the way, my money is on Kena. That's if... You actually want to fight him? Maybe you're just bluffing? I don't know, can't tell now a days who has a back bone and who doesn't.

    Oh it's a bluff. @PrinceFabious and I go back and forth with this old challenge pretty frequently. He lost a bunch of fights to me a long time ago, won one on a meteor one shot right at the beginning of the duel (I hadn't prepared for that properly), joined Mighty at my invitation, lost a bunch more, left the guild, and still tries to talk big. :lol:

    Arinar, the only people in this game who respect you are your fellow faction zergers in EP. I hope you know that by now. It doesn't have to stay that way, though. I've offered you several opportunities to redeem your name via attitude and group size changes, guild invitations, and faction changes, and you keep resisting. :( Heck, sometime last year I even extended a trial invitation to Legion to help you change your company and play habits, and you chose Krotha of all people over us because he pads your ego. You feel good performing at the level of your company or greater than some of them, and you feel powerful as his right hand man. That's all well and good, but my god it's turned you into a tool. You're not a bad player. People disrespect you because you're a hypocrite with a big mouth. You lose duels and even fights and then talk down to duelers and small groupers who want even fights or rematches when you get a single win. You run in large groups and EP faction zergs and then talk down to more organized large group players such as VE members. You call people out on using broken sets such as Malubeth when your current company uses it just as much as anyone else, even if you don't. And when people, namely myself lately, call you out on this stuff on the forums, your only response is to call them "mad" or "salty" instead of actual logical rebuttals because it's all true and cannot be denied. You need a serious attitude adjustment.

    The easiest part to work on would be your Krotha Syndrome. Just because your group has 2 or 4 members does not mean you're running in a small group if half of the EP faction is at Bleakers with you. :lol:

    Also good on ya for taking the "elite" out of Myrmidon's description in your sig. I suggest you take the "small" out as well.

    I write this as civilly as I can because I care. I have to be straightforward with you, though. I'm 100% not trying to slander you or embarrass you in front of the forums -- this is all common knowledge, and I'm not the first to say it. I put this here for everyone to see in hopes that it gives you a reality check. Good luck.

    Ok, this would be a nice post if you were to post some truth instead of trying to slander my name. If you beat in a duel..You will not hear me talk bad about you.
    Time to put you in your place.
    You steal my builds, post videos a couple days after I post videos because you get jealous for some reason( even with the same V for Vendetta intro lol), and always try to single target me in group which results in lil AP for me. Watch recent broadcasts, you are in them.
    The people who cry about me are the people who have been face first underneath my boot in the dirt. Literally look at everyone who talks smack..people that ended up in the dirt.
    Didnt I win a 1v2 againts you and Zabus and you complained "cc bug." You have been put down many times which an immediate "bug" excuse when you lose. HMMMM? WHO ELSE BLAMED LOSING A DUEL ON BUGS RECENTLY? lololololollololol
    You are an attention ***. That is why you post too many discussions that everyones tired of. You are not recognized as a top pvper and thats why you live on here.
    Thats it
    Why would I wanna join Legion, a guild that wipes 100% in Open world lol
    Salty comments from you are the only way you will feel important.
    You seem to lost your PvP touch this patch and resorted to full forum mode lol
    Il keep telling you this, you are mad because we have won every encounter with you. CHECK the recent broadcasts. I can gladly link them since I seem to be the one actually posting proof.
    Who knows Zergbad might have a 4th of July special deal for you.

    Honestly, you have been irrelevant in PvP so this is starting to be a waste of time for me. I actually feel kinda bad for putting you down like this. Il stop here. Hope to see you regroup and reorganize your group with a couple practice sessions in before venturing off into Haddy.

    Oh you're serious.... :open_mouth: You actually do think you're the best player in the game. Holy crap I've been going about this all wrong. You're not a hypocrite -- you're delusional. o.0

    When I made my video back in the day to one up you, did you actually take it seriously? That was me poking fun at a fellow mageblade, and you devolved it into this massive grudge... Wow. If it's such a big deal to you, go make another video to one up me back, or just get over it. Good grief.

    As for my group, we consistently beat Adamant even when outnumbered, so I don't know what you mean when you talk down about us... We beat them group v group, [Snip] and Michael 2v5ed them through a couple of camps, Immortal and Leif and a pug 3v5 or 6ed them. Like...we're the most competitive 8 or less man group running around right now, so what's this talking down to us? :( Heck, just the other night, my 7 man group killed your group of 17 EP pushing on that blue scroll that Unruh's group took from BRK. I remember looking at the kill counter as you fled toward the resource, and then laughing as my Endless Fury got the killing blow on you from someone else's follow up burst. We had 4 brand new guildies in group that night, so we wiped many times too. The fights were practive for them, but they were still close despite us being so outnumbered.

    You've never 1v2ed me with anyone. You ganked Zav and then beat me on my stamblade in a long fight after you failed to gank me. Also I had you on the defensive... I was just new to stamblade, so you blew me up after a while. I was so squishy. :<

    And I've never stolen your builds. Heck, the only build I have ever even known of yours is Julianos destro resto, which is just an item set. I've been running destro resto for months longer than I've even known you, and I've never run Julianos with it. I've never seen you do destro resto with indefinite 2pc Kena procs or heavy self-heals or heavy armor. I've never seen you do a non-destro resto setup besides your proxy bomb one, which I have like 4 builds for. I have more snb, dual wield non-proxy, and healer builds than I have staff builds... I have over 2 dozen golded out armor sets and every weapon imaginable in every combat stat trait, all resulting from incessant theorycrafting. So please tell me what exactly I stole from you?

    The rest of your post is irrational dribble..

    If you want anyone here to actually believe a word you say or take you seriously, you'll have to chill out and come down to Earth with the rest of us.

    This is completely false lol. I don't think we've ever fought you guys "group v group, as we are always on TF. Not even sure who is in your group, but I would remember if we were consistently owned by another small group...maybe you are thinking of another guild than Adamant (or you failed to notice 20+ pugs around you?). I don't care to argue, but don't make stuff up to prove a point lol.

    We play on both campaigns, and we both know I don't roll with pugs around me. Lol One fight was by BRK farm, another northeast of Bleakers, a couple by Arrius, and idk where the 2vgroups were as I was not there for them. I even pursued you away from the group myself after the BRK and Bleakers fights. This isn't a jab at you or your group. We respect you. But don't come up in here jabbing at me when I'm getting called out by forum trolls.

    Going to keep this short and address the points highlighted above. No sugar coating. No salt.
    • Months ago, our group was at Aleswell Mine fighting VE and pugs. After some good fights, we were completely overwhelmed and almost wiped by the blues. @Aenlir (on an AoE group build) just barely survived the raids only to end up "dueling" you a second later at the same resource while the place was swarming with blues.
      Fast forward (maybe a day or 2 later), @Aenlir and I were at Arrius Lumber, getting ambush spammed and chased by a raid. You, standing a few meters in front of me, decided it would be "funny" to just mark spam me as I was desperately trying to cloak away (I was on my nb). And that wasn't the first time you did that.
    • The fight at BRK farm that took place a month ago, was a 2v8.
      2v8 as in it was @Aenlir and I on our mDKs vs. you and 7 other DC. The fight happened right behind the resource tower on the rocks and near the well. There were no AD pugs assisting us. If that's your idea of "consistently beating
      Adamant even when outnumbered" or "group v group"
      or "2v5" or "3v6" ... then kudos.
    • Your false claims are a jab at our group, hence the counter jabs. Please don't involve us in your petty epeen quarrels.
    This thread is the definition of garbage.
    And having to comment here makes me want to throw up. Refer to @zyk 's comment for further clarification.

    Yet you keep coming here..

    Notice how in each of your examples, I wasn't in the pug groups. I was off to a side. Thanks for supporting my point?

    Yes I fought Aenlir 1v1 up on those rocks at Ales mine. I gave him plenty of time to regen resources, but I also didn't let him get away either. I wanted to fight a good fight, which I got and which I won. Notice that I didn't record it or bring it up here... I figured he was in group spec. Whatever.

    When I mark spammed you that one time (near Arrius?), it was to help you get away. I'm the only one that can see you in cloak when I mark you, in case you weren't aware. Notice that I wasn't hitting you.

    And you did have AD with you at the BRK farm fight. There were like a dozen of you total, but only 4 were clustered up on you two. I remember one was named Zeronia, who I had never seen before but thought might be Zerona. I figured the rest were pugs, but Aenlir clarified that they all were. Regardless, we fought you and Aenlir and those 4 the one time that descended into the cliffs, after which he and I joked about it and I said gf. We were outnumbered by both AD and Rylana's EP at that resource and enjoyed some good fights all around. Why is your ego so threatened by that? You engaged into us, lost, and I told my group to leave you alone for the rest of our time there.

    I don't know where you get off claiming you were alone or that I zerg with pugs.. Goodness. And this isn't an epeen thread. Well, maybe it is for Arinar...but he finally left. I already explained that I'm only defending myself to him. Does that really threaten you so much?

    Since we're taking shots, though, you of all Adamant have the least room to talk down to me, perhaps aside from Kaiz, who just runs away. You and I dueled on mageblades forever ago, and I beat you like 3 times in a row with my RP walk on with Aenlir watching. Baited you to drop your healing ward spam defense each time. The only times you've managed to kill me were proxy DB combos in open world while I was fighting other people or standing around emoting by Aenlir. Despite your animosity, he and I get along quite well. You and I used to be friends too, but you removed me. Dunno why to this day.

    I have a photographic memory. I can't help but remember things exactly as they happened. This is also a transparent and open forum where all claims are subject to scrutiny by the community. I'll be the last to try to misrepresent events or make something up.

    Now shove off with your attitude. It's no place here.

    Never said you were in the pug group. But its nice to know you solo around pugs raids.

    Mark spammed me to help me get away... that too when mark suffered from the perma mark bug ? lol thanks youre too kind. :lol:

    Noone really wants to know if you have photographic memory but ok.
    From our pov it was me and @Aenlir Vs. you and all the dc that were with you. Recall it however you want to call it. We were outnumbered. Not you.
    @Aenlir should really tell you what he said at that time. Maybe then you would know how well you get along with him :lol:

    And what is this about my ego being threatened ?
    My ego is as it was. I don't need you to tell me where I stand in my own guild and amongst my friends.
    I accept defeat with humility when i'm beaten and don't make excuses. When I lost to you on my manablade, I could have told you that it was the start of IC and i was in purple gear with garbage traits like reinforced. But I didn't make any excuses and accepted that I lost and added you so that I could duel you later when i'm geared.
    And how did you react to your little win ?
    You came on the forums and started bragging about how you RP walked and defeated me when people wouldn't include you but included me on their Top NB NA lists even though i don't consider myself as one of the top NBs. And you wonder why I removed you from my friends list. :lol:
    Even now, when we are talking about group play you are trying to flex your virtual muscles, bringing the same story up in a failed attempt to discredit the points I have made against your original jabs at my guild.
    You say this isn't an epeen thread yet here you are showcasing your "victories". Everything you post screams epeen and "Notice me Senpai".

    And I'm the one with ego issues ? Get outta here :lol:


    Everyone hovers around the outside of big fights from time to time skirmishing in smaller scale action.

    Mark spammed as pseudo-troll because another NB was marking you too. And the permanent mark bug is a visual bug on your screen only. My mark only aided you to get away from him, whether you know how mark works or not.

    Aenlir and I are chill unless he has some grudge I don't know about too. I have nothing but respect or him. Regardless, it was a straight fight. Nothing to complain about aside from dying. He wasn't outnumbered versus me. In a more general sense, I've never wronged you or your group to deserve otherwise.

    When we dueled I was in infused and divines crafted gear, also purple. Far from ideal.

    And I did not find that post until Arinar mentioned me in it first, ironically, and he wasn't the only person. I only brought up my fights with others afterward when I was challenged.

    Why do people in this game cling to such inflated egos and feel a need to put each other down? Good grief. Go plaaaaay.

    Edit : Needed more quotation marks for victories :trollface:

    Mature.

    Also I'm amused that you, like Arinar, fall to raw, unfounded insults when you find yourself without a rational reply.

    Says the one who told me to shove off while gloating on personal wins when I presented rational arguments against a fake claim. :lol:

    Except the part where everything I said was correcting the flaws in your accounts of the stories? So yea, shove off with your *** attitude.
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    @KenaPKK the only fight I remember was the one at brk farm. That was just me and Ara, and you guys had a group. I also remember you using malubeth. I'm sure you remember it differently, so whatever, but if you don't see me, Mer, Ara, Mojican, Policy, Kaiz etc it's not a group v group.

    Edit: not salty or anything haha, just don't remember things the same I guess :D

    ^This.
    @KenaPKK - some people actually think you're a good player so if you truly are then you don't need to make (fake) publicity for you and your small-man by saying you beat us.
    I'm being honest here in saying I do not remember ever running into you (or the people in your small-man) except this one time when you were on your AD and you followed Mojican, Aenlir and I around for a bit, then this other time on your (main?) DC when you dueled Mojican and he beat you, after you tried to bomb us with bigger numbers and lost.

    I think this last one was at Chalman Lumber, but I could be wrong - I really don't pay attention to all these small details and make notes in my diary for future reference.
    This was a long time ago - haven't seen you since, fighting against us when we run our group or when we go out and duo.

    Also - why are you completely dodging Mojican's question?

    Yo chill. I'm not making publicity, and this thread isn't about Adamant. Heck I want this stupid conversation to end more than anyone. Arinar came up in here calling me out with his outrageous insults, and I'm defending myself and my boys. Unfortunately, he turned it into "he doesn't make fancy videos or try to get attention, therefore everything he says is false and he's bad."

    I have bombed Adamant twice ever. Nearly killed Policy once at Chalm mine, slipped out from under a detect pot, reappeared trying to /dance, got jumped on by him and Arnlir and died to another detect pot, came back at Chalm lumber and bombed again, died to mark and detect pot. Big deal, wasn't much of a chance to get him without an Alchemist build anyway, but it was fun. I was alone both times, and my group does not bomb outside of IC ever. Dunno who you are mistaking me for regarding the bombing and wiping despite outnumbering you.

    I've dueled Mojican 3 times. Once I was on my new stamblade. He was a 30k health stamplar with immov pots, and he rightfully rekt me. No surprise, I was learning stamblade, but that's what I do. I'm scrappy. I'll fight good players on new characters all day to learn them. Why's that suddenly ammo against me? Gtfo. Second time we dueled, I was on a brand new staffblade build. Couldn't outsustain him through the immovs, died, refined build. We still went a little while though. I was salty at the immov pots, which I believe is justified since you have to outsustain 30k health snb builds to win but cannot do so through immovability. I moved on. Third time, he was a magicka build, and we stalled. Still loved his immov pots (I'll never understand relying on those in 1v1s, but whatever). He and I have no beef about it, so why do you?

    I hadn't seen his question until you mentioned it. @manny254 if you need a formal fight that badly, be my guest. Hit up the people I mentioned. My first question when they told me about them was if they had recorded. They didn't, so I dropped it. This was over a month ago, and I only brought them up to put my group in perspective for Arinar. If I'd known Adamant cared so much as to come in swinging when I make some sideways comments to a pug, I'd have left it at the start. There's no disrespect here unless you're bringing it. I will warn you against throwing insults and rash assumptions though.

    God this thread has inflamed well beyond rationality. I am currently offline indefinitely due to computer trouble. Why don't you all go back to playing the game? I'm going to the beach where I won't be constantly bugged by notifications here. All the salt in the water will make me feel right at home. :trollface:

    You created a lie to boost your own ego. Of course I am going to call you on it. I would also love some organized fights, but please do not make up excuses like those lost duels. :#

    Where are lies or excuses?

    Are you role playing as a wall ? :lol:

    You too. This argument was originally between me and Arinar. He left when I shut him down. Therefore the conversation is over.

    Except now you've rallied Adamant to come cry against me to save some kind of ego or whatever. But I wasn't even talking to you. Jesus Christ.

    I said my bit to Arinar, and now you've all shown up challenging it. If you don't have video proof to back up your claims that I'm making something up, then you can back down right now.

    Edit: I'll had how convenient it is that you and the other Adamant folks completely ignore Leif's account of his fight versus you personally. Read up.

    Lmao.. video proof of what ? You claiming that you said you "consistently beat us group v group" ?

    You need me to make a video of what you wrote two pages back to prove to you that you wrote it ?

    Lawd I think im going cray cray :dizzy:

    But here, let me refresh your photographic memory.
    The original argument between you and us was about your group consistently beating us group v group.

    But nice try trying to slide this into your beef with @PrinceFabious

    #AforEffort


    Edited by Ara_Valleria on July 5, 2016 11:27PM
    °‡° ÁDAMANT °‡°
    The Addon Abusers, Exploiters & Macro'ers Refuge
    •••• | Ara Valleria - AD NightBlade | Templàra Valleria - AD Templar | Åra Valleria - AD DragonKnight | Ára V - AD DragonKnight | Ara Laifu - DC NightBlade | Ara Waifu - EP Sorcerer | ••••

    ••••••| YOUTUBE |••••••
    Want to take a break from all the Lagging|Crashing|Cancer ?
    Play Albion Online
  • Publius_Scipio
    Publius_Scipio
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    I am going to step in to say I don't want any COVENANT soldiers that read this thread to feel as though we are weakening or that the mission has changed. You're mission has not changed. You are to fight Krotha and his sugar fiend army above all else. When COMMANDER FENGRUSH is around you are to give his small team support and cover fire while he strikes at Krotha's heart at BRK. Onward vessels of the COVENANT!

    https://youtu.be/txA7D-bKOuU
  • KenaPKK
    KenaPKK
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    @KenaPKK You have mentioned my name about 10 times since my last reply LOL. The entire community is againts you man. Your lies have been exposed bud. Sorry man..its a fight you have lost.


    Take the advice everyone is trying to give you. Try practicing with your group. Learn to combine ultimates instead of typing on the forums. Aka l2p before talking big lol

    I mentioned your name to show that this thread was between me and you, not them. So? And the only people against me are you and now Adamant. I'm simply defending myself. See, this is what you do. You exaggerate and over generalize until you contort reality into your story so that you can slander my name publicly. This isn't high school bullying. You don't win because you make the most people laugh at the other guy. Get outa here with that.
    Edited by KenaPKK on July 5, 2016 11:34PM
    Kena
    Legion XIII
    Excellence without elitism
    Premier small scale PvP

    Legend
    NA/PC original dueling and general PvP community guild
    Now the hub of competitive dueling and the joined PvP communities of NA and EU/PC


    Apex Predator.

    Here's a great thread collecting community ideas for PvP updates.

    [MEGATHREAD] Feedback Threads for Class Reps

    Class Representative Feedback Discords:
    Nightblade Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/t2Xhnu6

    Dragonknight Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/UHtZhz8

    Sorcerer Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/e3QkCS8

    Templar Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/WvVuSw7

    Warden Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/sTFY4ys

    General Healing Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/6CmzBFb

    TONKS!
    https://discord.gg/DRNYd39

    Werewolf Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/aDEx2ev

    Vampire Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/yfzck8Q
  • silky_soft
    silky_soft
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    silky_soft wrote: »
    Van_0S wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    I love how I came in here to mention Krotha and Arinar's scrub squad, but they've already been mentioned. ^^
    ....... Who???

    What!? You don't know of King Krotha!? The rated R twitch stream? King Krotha! The Menace of Morrowind, The M&M Mauler, King Kandy, The Foul Mouth Orc, The Destroyer of Twix, The Sugar Rush Demon, The Enslaver of Sour Patch Kids, The Conqueror of the Mountain of Dew, etc etc etc etc.

    Right now on Haderus there is a power struggle between the forces of good lead by FENGRUSH and trumpeted by yours truly (that means ME) and the evil sugar coated hands of the Mad King Krotha and his elite guard! Krotha and his soldiers have been equipped with gear imbued with ancient powerful dark magic (such as Malubeth). Even with FENGRUSH pressing the battle Krotha pushes the entire COVENANT to its very limits.

    Fengrush is on tf. Playing during oceanic against 300ms peoples.

    So if I slaughter people on TF at night when the lag subsides they become oceanic players? Nice!

    I didn't say you were slaughtering anything.

    Yes you are correct, your night time would be our evening time. Lags subside around 12am pst/4pm aest and gone around 1am pst/5pm aest. Oceanic/The evil night cappers is 3am pst/7pm onwards.
    Here $15, goat mount please. Not paying 45 : lol :
    Netch is free with a cleanse and free magika. You nerf siphon into the ground. Nice balance team.
    How do you go home every night and say, I did a great job at work today. You actually do your job properly.
    Step 1: roll templar. Step 2: level up jabs. Step 3: slap on weapon damage build. Step 4: que for bg. Step 5: leap...jabsjabsjabsjabs
  • Nafirian
    Nafirian
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    @Nafirian This thread is reaching Trueflame EU PC-thread level :trollface: Enjoy.

    Question is...

    Can it approach LegMage vs Etaniel/Derra/Drac threads?!

    When hell freezes over :wink:

    At least we're trying not to openly insult each other. :mrgreen:

    Well that would trigger the Mods wouldn't want that now would we :^)
  • KenaPKK
    KenaPKK
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    @KenaPKK the only fight I remember was the one at brk farm. That was just me and Ara, and you guys had a group. I also remember you using malubeth. I'm sure you remember it differently, so whatever, but if you don't see me, Mer, Ara, Mojican, Policy, Kaiz etc it's not a group v group.

    Edit: not salty or anything haha, just don't remember things the same I guess :D

    ^This.
    @KenaPKK - some people actually think you're a good player so if you truly are then you don't need to make (fake) publicity for you and your small-man by saying you beat us.
    I'm being honest here in saying I do not remember ever running into you (or the people in your small-man) except this one time when you were on your AD and you followed Mojican, Aenlir and I around for a bit, then this other time on your (main?) DC when you dueled Mojican and he beat you, after you tried to bomb us with bigger numbers and lost.

    I think this last one was at Chalman Lumber, but I could be wrong - I really don't pay attention to all these small details and make notes in my diary for future reference.
    This was a long time ago - haven't seen you since, fighting against us when we run our group or when we go out and duo.

    Also - why are you completely dodging Mojican's question?

    Yo chill. I'm not making publicity, and this thread isn't about Adamant. Heck I want this stupid conversation to end more than anyone. Arinar came up in here calling me out with his outrageous insults, and I'm defending myself and my boys. Unfortunately, he turned it into "he doesn't make fancy videos or try to get attention, therefore everything he says is false and he's bad."

    I have bombed Adamant twice ever. Nearly killed Policy once at Chalm mine, slipped out from under a detect pot, reappeared trying to /dance, got jumped on by him and Arnlir and died to another detect pot, came back at Chalm lumber and bombed again, died to mark and detect pot. Big deal, wasn't much of a chance to get him without an Alchemist build anyway, but it was fun. I was alone both times, and my group does not bomb outside of IC ever. Dunno who you are mistaking me for regarding the bombing and wiping despite outnumbering you.

    I've dueled Mojican 3 times. Once I was on my new stamblade. He was a 30k health stamplar with immov pots, and he rightfully rekt me. No surprise, I was learning stamblade, but that's what I do. I'm scrappy. I'll fight good players on new characters all day to learn them. Why's that suddenly ammo against me? Gtfo. Second time we dueled, I was on a brand new staffblade build. Couldn't outsustain him through the immovs, died, refined build. We still went a little while though. I was salty at the immov pots, which I believe is justified since you have to outsustain 30k health snb builds to win but cannot do so through immovability. I moved on. Third time, he was a magicka build, and we stalled. Still loved his immov pots (I'll never understand relying on those in 1v1s, but whatever). He and I have no beef about it, so why do you?

    I hadn't seen his question until you mentioned it. @manny254 if you need a formal fight that badly, be my guest. Hit up the people I mentioned. My first question when they told me about them was if they had recorded. They didn't, so I dropped it. This was over a month ago, and I only brought them up to put my group in perspective for Arinar. If I'd known Adamant cared so much as to come in swinging when I make some sideways comments to a pug, I'd have left it at the start. There's no disrespect here unless you're bringing it. I will warn you against throwing insults and rash assumptions though.

    God this thread has inflamed well beyond rationality. I am currently offline indefinitely due to computer trouble. Why don't you all go back to playing the game? I'm going to the beach where I won't be constantly bugged by notifications here. All the salt in the water will make me feel right at home. :trollface:

    You created a lie to boost your own ego. Of course I am going to call you on it. I would also love some organized fights, but please do not make up excuses like those lost duels. :#

    Where are lies or excuses?

    You created a false story, and created excuses for loosing duels in 2 of the 3 instances you mentioned. I get the people in dueling guilds take those seriously, but you should instead take them as lessons to improve.

    Except for the part where there's no false story, and not being experienced in a class and your use of immov pots are perfectly valid reasons to lose duels? I'm not mad that I lost. I am simply stating the reasons why I lost. You even told me after the stamplar versus mageblade one "yea you just have to outsustain me since you can't burst through a 30k health snb." In what world can anyone outsustain you when you're using stamina immov pots? Duels are only an indicator of skill if they occur under a certain set of rules which balance the field. I made the mistake of assuming you understood this before fighting you. We should repeat these fights without you crutching on the immovability, yes? I'll even bring my stamblade and sorc if you like. Idk if I'll win on them yet, but I'm better than I used to be. And what is with you people and false stories? Just because Arinar cried lies doesn't mean there are actually lies. Don't listen to him. He cries about a lot of things. Lmao

    You and Arinar are made for each other. You should really get a room together. Oh the delusions you could create together. The world would be scared.

    Something I use is a valid excuse for your failure? How does that logic follow? Why is it bad that I build for a sustained fight, and try to counter the burst builds of 90% of the community? Can the leader of the "Elite" Dueling Guild not out sustain a player that has never been in any dueling guild? I am sick of people complaining about immov pots. It is essentially complaining that you can not constantly try to burst someone. I am sorry that I enjoy more than just bursting other players, and if they really bother you go buy some instead of blaming me.

    They create endless fights. In that particular duel, I had a little over 20 or 22k health -- i.e. squishy as ***-- and had iffy sustain. I was between builds trying to figure some stuff out, so of course you won. I never said you didn't deserve it. What's this attitude for?

    If we repeat the fight with the build which that one refined to, the fight would never end. I ended up with 33.5k health, comparable albeit dodgeable damage, a ton of bonus healing (no I wasn't using Malubeth), and infinite resources without immovs (Siphon Attacks and NB passives op).

    Building to resist burst and to outsustain people instead of bursting them is fine. That's how all of my builds work too. But the game currently gives us too much sustain via CP, and immov pots only increase stamina sustain further.

    TLDR: In order to win a fight via sustain, you must be able to actually run the guy out of resources. Can't run a well built player out of stam if they're running immovs.

    Do you claim that any of this is false?

    I'll be happy to rematch you either without immovs or on Azura's once my computer is fixed. Otherwise it's a moot point.
    Kena
    Legion XIII
    Excellence without elitism
    Premier small scale PvP

    Legend
    NA/PC original dueling and general PvP community guild
    Now the hub of competitive dueling and the joined PvP communities of NA and EU/PC


    Apex Predator.

    Here's a great thread collecting community ideas for PvP updates.

    [MEGATHREAD] Feedback Threads for Class Reps

    Class Representative Feedback Discords:
    Nightblade Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/t2Xhnu6

    Dragonknight Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/UHtZhz8

    Sorcerer Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/e3QkCS8

    Templar Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/WvVuSw7

    Warden Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/sTFY4ys

    General Healing Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/6CmzBFb

    TONKS!
    https://discord.gg/DRNYd39

    Werewolf Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/aDEx2ev

    Vampire Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/yfzck8Q
  • KenaPKK
    KenaPKK
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    I am going to step in to say I don't want any COVENANT soldiers that read this thread to feel as though we are weakening or that the mission has changed. You're mission has not changed. You are to fight Krotha and his sugar fiend army above all else. When COMMANDER FENGRUSH is around you are to give his small team support and cover fire while he strikes at Krotha's heart at BRK. Onward vessels of the COVENANT!

    https://youtu.be/txA7D-bKOuU

    Oh we are certainly not weakening. Arinar is an agent of the evil black-hearted Krotha come to slander a good COVENANT soldier's name! He even managed to recruit the dirty elves and cat people to join in spreading his nefarious propaganda. Death be to them all by our valiant COMMANDER FENGRUSH'S hand! I, Kena, entitled President of PvP by the hand of his envoy SCIPIO, do decree it.

    (I need some fitting last names Pubes, halp) :smiley:
    Edited by KenaPKK on July 6, 2016 12:08AM
    Kena
    Legion XIII
    Excellence without elitism
    Premier small scale PvP

    Legend
    NA/PC original dueling and general PvP community guild
    Now the hub of competitive dueling and the joined PvP communities of NA and EU/PC


    Apex Predator.

    Here's a great thread collecting community ideas for PvP updates.

    [MEGATHREAD] Feedback Threads for Class Reps

    Class Representative Feedback Discords:
    Nightblade Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/t2Xhnu6

    Dragonknight Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/UHtZhz8

    Sorcerer Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/e3QkCS8

    Templar Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/WvVuSw7

    Warden Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/sTFY4ys

    General Healing Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/6CmzBFb

    TONKS!
    https://discord.gg/DRNYd39

    Werewolf Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/aDEx2ev

    Vampire Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/yfzck8Q
  • manny254
    manny254
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    @KenaPKK the only fight I remember was the one at brk farm. That was just me and Ara, and you guys had a group. I also remember you using malubeth. I'm sure you remember it differently, so whatever, but if you don't see me, Mer, Ara, Mojican, Policy, Kaiz etc it's not a group v group.

    Edit: not salty or anything haha, just don't remember things the same I guess :D

    ^This.
    @KenaPKK - some people actually think you're a good player so if you truly are then you don't need to make (fake) publicity for you and your small-man by saying you beat us.
    I'm being honest here in saying I do not remember ever running into you (or the people in your small-man) except this one time when you were on your AD and you followed Mojican, Aenlir and I around for a bit, then this other time on your (main?) DC when you dueled Mojican and he beat you, after you tried to bomb us with bigger numbers and lost.

    I think this last one was at Chalman Lumber, but I could be wrong - I really don't pay attention to all these small details and make notes in my diary for future reference.
    This was a long time ago - haven't seen you since, fighting against us when we run our group or when we go out and duo.

    Also - why are you completely dodging Mojican's question?

    Yo chill. I'm not making publicity, and this thread isn't about Adamant. Heck I want this stupid conversation to end more than anyone. Arinar came up in here calling me out with his outrageous insults, and I'm defending myself and my boys. Unfortunately, he turned it into "he doesn't make fancy videos or try to get attention, therefore everything he says is false and he's bad."

    I have bombed Adamant twice ever. Nearly killed Policy once at Chalm mine, slipped out from under a detect pot, reappeared trying to /dance, got jumped on by him and Arnlir and died to another detect pot, came back at Chalm lumber and bombed again, died to mark and detect pot. Big deal, wasn't much of a chance to get him without an Alchemist build anyway, but it was fun. I was alone both times, and my group does not bomb outside of IC ever. Dunno who you are mistaking me for regarding the bombing and wiping despite outnumbering you.

    I've dueled Mojican 3 times. Once I was on my new stamblade. He was a 30k health stamplar with immov pots, and he rightfully rekt me. No surprise, I was learning stamblade, but that's what I do. I'm scrappy. I'll fight good players on new characters all day to learn them. Why's that suddenly ammo against me? Gtfo. Second time we dueled, I was on a brand new staffblade build. Couldn't outsustain him through the immovs, died, refined build. We still went a little while though. I was salty at the immov pots, which I believe is justified since you have to outsustain 30k health snb builds to win but cannot do so through immovability. I moved on. Third time, he was a magicka build, and we stalled. Still loved his immov pots (I'll never understand relying on those in 1v1s, but whatever). He and I have no beef about it, so why do you?

    I hadn't seen his question until you mentioned it. @manny254 if you need a formal fight that badly, be my guest. Hit up the people I mentioned. My first question when they told me about them was if they had recorded. They didn't, so I dropped it. This was over a month ago, and I only brought them up to put my group in perspective for Arinar. If I'd known Adamant cared so much as to come in swinging when I make some sideways comments to a pug, I'd have left it at the start. There's no disrespect here unless you're bringing it. I will warn you against throwing insults and rash assumptions though.

    God this thread has inflamed well beyond rationality. I am currently offline indefinitely due to computer trouble. Why don't you all go back to playing the game? I'm going to the beach where I won't be constantly bugged by notifications here. All the salt in the water will make me feel right at home. :trollface:

    You created a lie to boost your own ego. Of course I am going to call you on it. I would also love some organized fights, but please do not make up excuses like those lost duels. :#

    Where are lies or excuses?

    You created a false story, and created excuses for loosing duels in 2 of the 3 instances you mentioned. I get the people in dueling guilds take those seriously, but you should instead take them as lessons to improve.

    Except for the part where there's no false story, and not being experienced in a class and your use of immov pots are perfectly valid reasons to lose duels? I'm not mad that I lost. I am simply stating the reasons why I lost. You even told me after the stamplar versus mageblade one "yea you just have to outsustain me since you can't burst through a 30k health snb." In what world can anyone outsustain you when you're using stamina immov pots? Duels are only an indicator of skill if they occur under a certain set of rules which balance the field. I made the mistake of assuming you understood this before fighting you. We should repeat these fights without you crutching on the immovability, yes? I'll even bring my stamblade and sorc if you like. Idk if I'll win on them yet, but I'm better than I used to be. And what is with you people and false stories? Just because Arinar cried lies doesn't mean there are actually lies. Don't listen to him. He cries about a lot of things. Lmao

    You and Arinar are made for each other. You should really get a room together. Oh the delusions you could create together. The world would be scared.

    Something I use is a valid excuse for your failure? How does that logic follow? Why is it bad that I build for a sustained fight, and try to counter the burst builds of 90% of the community? Can the leader of the "Elite" Dueling Guild not out sustain a player that has never been in any dueling guild? I am sick of people complaining about immov pots. It is essentially complaining that you can not constantly try to burst someone. I am sorry that I enjoy more than just bursting other players, and if they really bother you go buy some instead of blaming me.

    They create endless fights. In that particular duel, I had a little over 20 or 22k health -- i.e. squishy as ***-- and had iffy sustain. I was between builds trying to figure some stuff out, so of course you won. I never said you didn't deserve it. What's this attitude for?

    If we repeat the fight with the build which that one refined to, the fight would never end. I ended up with 33.5k health, comparable albeit dodgeable damage, a ton of bonus healing (no I wasn't using Malubeth), and infinite resources without immovs (Siphon Attacks and NB passives op).

    Building to resist burst and to outsustain people instead of bursting them is fine. That's how all of my builds work too. But the game currently gives us too much sustain via CP, and immov pots only increase stamina sustain further.

    TLDR: In order to win a fight via sustain, you must be able to actually run the guy out of resources. Can't run a well built player out of stam if they're running immovs.

    Do you claim that any of this is false?

    I'll be happy to rematch you either without immovs or on Azura's once my computer is fixed. Otherwise it's a moot point.

    Except if was a redguard I would have more sustain then an imperial with immov....

    I get it. Most the "duelers" don't like having long fights based on sustain. That is great, but don't use it as an excuse for getting rekt. You seem to have forgotten that both the duels you referenced did not last longer than a single potion cooldown, and there was one that lasted about 15 seconds. Frankly I should know by now that expecting you to not have an excuse is a waste of time.

    Continue to make excuses, and not improve. Sounds like most "Duelers" to me. BTW My build is stronger in Azuras then normal CP :s
    - Mojican
  • PrinceFabious
    PrinceFabious
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am going to step in to say I don't want any COVENANT soldiers that read this thread to feel as though we are weakening or that the mission has changed. You're mission has not changed. You are to fight Krotha and his sugar fiend army above all else. When COMMANDER FENGRUSH is around you are to give his small team support and cover fire while he strikes at Krotha's heart at BRK. Onward vessels of the COVENANT!

    https://youtu.be/txA7D-bKOuU

    WTB EP roleplayer to combat Pubes! That will make this more epic!
  • Cinnamon_Spider
    Cinnamon_Spider
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    I am going to step in to say I don't want any COVENANT soldiers that read this thread to feel as though we are weakening or that the mission has changed. You're mission has not changed. You are to fight Krotha and his sugar fiend army above all else. When COMMANDER FENGRUSH is around you are to give his small team support and cover fire while he strikes at Krotha's heart at BRK. Onward vessels of the COVENANT!

    https://youtu.be/txA7D-bKOuU

    Oh we are certainly not weakening. Arinar is an agent of the evil black-hearted Krotha come to slander a good COVENANT soldier's name! He even managed to recruit the dirty elves and cat people to join in spreading his nefarious propaganda. Death be to them all by our valiant COMMANDER FENGRUSH'S hand! I, Kena, entitled President of PvP by the hand of his envoy SCIPIO, do decree it.

    (I need some fitting last names Pubes, halp) :smiley:
    @Publius_Scipio As one of DC's most prominent pocket healers, I'd like to suggest the title of Rewriter of History for our friend here.
    Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
    Exquisite Bedlam - Sorcerer AD rank 34
    Cinnamonspiderdreams - Sorcerer EP rank 24
    Synaris Astarte - Templar DC rank 24
    Cinnamon Spider - Nightblade AD

    Youtube - Cinnamon_Spider
  • DocFrost72
    DocFrost72
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭
    I am going to step in to say I don't want any COVENANT soldiers that read this thread to feel as though we are weakening or that the mission has changed. You're mission has not changed. You are to fight Krotha and his sugar fiend army above all else. When COMMANDER FENGRUSH is around you are to give his small team support and cover fire while he strikes at Krotha's heart at BRK. Onward vessels of the COVENANT!

    https://youtu.be/txA7D-bKOuU

    WTB EP roleplayer to combat Pubes! That will make this more epic!

    Oh my god yes. I could see them roleplaying as they fought, it would be freaking epic! Somebody set this up NOW
  • Publius_Scipio
    Publius_Scipio
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    I am going to step in to say I don't want any COVENANT soldiers that read this thread to feel as though we are weakening or that the mission has changed. You're mission has not changed. You are to fight Krotha and his sugar fiend army above all else. When COMMANDER FENGRUSH is around you are to give his small team support and cover fire while he strikes at Krotha's heart at BRK. Onward vessels of the COVENANT!

    https://youtu.be/txA7D-bKOuU

    WTB EP roleplayer to combat Pubes! That will make this more epic!

    I was a unique anomaly born into the COVENANT. I grew up in the COVENANT. I spent my time lifting up the names of all the legends and soldiers within the COVENANT! And when my time comes they will drape the BLUE BANNER over me and entomb me beneath the MIGHTY GATES OF SOUTH HIGH ROCK ITSELF! So that my energy, my will, and my LOVE OF THE COVENANT will symbolically become part of the bedrock of the mighty gates for eras to come!

    You and your cronies are absolutely lucky I can't deal damage with my typed words! Because if ZOS were to make it so, I'd be handing out "one-shots" with every sentence of every paragraph! And no rally nor CP would save you Dubzog.

    But I digress.... When the war is over it is me that will be paying the environmentally conscious Khajiit Telel a visit. See not only is Telel trying to get his famous Telel's Fresh Khajiit Vegetable Soup into Whole Foods and Trader Joe's all over Tamriel, but he doesn't like to use unfriendly styrofoam cups for his soup. He has a "bring your own cup" policy at his inn. And I will be bringing my own cup. Only that the cup is your split open cranium.
  • Chilo
    Chilo
    ✭✭
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    Sypher wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    I love how I came in here to mention Krotha and Arinar's scrub squad, but they've already been mentioned. ^^

    Hey, are you still mad about us farming yall at Ash mine today? We were there because we couldnt find action. Please dont be mad. Youve been mad for a while now. Its not good for you. I will be happy to duel you to help you get better :)

    You sure you want to duel him to help him get better? Or are your fingers ready on the log out button if you manage to get a fluke. :*

    Don't talk about dueling when you actually ran away from a fight on the PTS server of all things.

    Didnt you blame bugs on your defeat? Didnt we test them out after and realized that they fixed cloak and my AoE was keeping you out. Fluke? And PTS? what gear were you testing out? We were using the same builds PTS or not. Yes, I didnt give you a rematch because why? So you can keep trying till you win? I already said beating you made me feel all warm and fuzzy.

    By the way, my money is on Kena. That's if... You actually want to fight him? Maybe you're just bluffing? I don't know, can't tell now a days who has a back bone and who doesn't.

    Oh it's a bluff. @PrinceFabious and I go back and forth with this old challenge pretty frequently. He lost a bunch of fights to me a long time ago, won one on a meteor one shot right at the beginning of the duel (I hadn't prepared for that properly), joined Mighty at my invitation, lost a bunch more, left the guild, and still tries to talk big. :lol:

    Arinar, the only people in this game who respect you are your fellow faction zergers in EP. I hope you know that by now. It doesn't have to stay that way, though. I've offered you several opportunities to redeem your name via attitude and group size changes, guild invitations, and faction changes, and you keep resisting. :( Heck, sometime last year I even extended a trial invitation to Legion to help you change your company and play habits, and you chose Krotha of all people over us because he pads your ego. You feel good performing at the level of your company or greater than some of them, and you feel powerful as his right hand man. That's all well and good, but my god it's turned you into a tool. You're not a bad player. People disrespect you because you're a hypocrite with a big mouth. You lose duels and even fights and then talk down to duelers and small groupers who want even fights or rematches when you get a single win. You run in large groups and EP faction zergs and then talk down to more organized large group players such as VE members. You call people out on using broken sets such as Malubeth when your current company uses it just as much as anyone else, even if you don't. And when people, namely myself lately, call you out on this stuff on the forums, your only response is to call them "mad" or "salty" instead of actual logical rebuttals because it's all true and cannot be denied. You need a serious attitude adjustment.

    The easiest part to work on would be your Krotha Syndrome. Just because your group has 2 or 4 members does not mean you're running in a small group if half of the EP faction is at Bleakers with you. :lol:

    Also good on ya for taking the "elite" out of Myrmidon's description in your sig. I suggest you take the "small" out as well.

    I write this as civilly as I can because I care. I have to be straightforward with you, though. I'm 100% not trying to slander you or embarrass you in front of the forums -- this is all common knowledge, and I'm not the first to say it. I put this here for everyone to see in hopes that it gives you a reality check. Good luck.

    Ok, this would be a nice post if you were to post some truth instead of trying to slander my name. If you beat in a duel..You will not hear me talk bad about you.
    Time to put you in your place.
    You steal my builds, post videos a couple days after I post videos because you get jealous for some reason( even with the same V for Vendetta intro lol), and always try to single target me in group which results in lil AP for me. Watch recent broadcasts, you are in them.
    The people who cry about me are the people who have been face first underneath my boot in the dirt. Literally look at everyone who talks smack..people that ended up in the dirt.
    Didnt I win a 1v2 againts you and Zabus and you complained "cc bug." You have been put down many times which an immediate "bug" excuse when you lose. HMMMM? WHO ELSE BLAMED LOSING A DUEL ON BUGS RECENTLY? lololololollololol
    You are an attention ***. That is why you post too many discussions that everyones tired of. You are not recognized as a top pvper and thats why you live on here.
    Thats it
    Why would I wanna join Legion, a guild that wipes 100% in Open world lol
    Salty comments from you are the only way you will feel important.
    You seem to lost your PvP touch this patch and resorted to full forum mode lol
    Il keep telling you this, you are mad because we have won every encounter with you. CHECK the recent broadcasts. I can gladly link them since I seem to be the one actually posting proof.
    Who knows Zergbad might have a 4th of July special deal for you.

    Honestly, you have been irrelevant in PvP so this is starting to be a waste of time for me. I actually feel kinda bad for putting you down like this. Il stop here. Hope to see you regroup and reorganize your group with a couple practice sessions in before venturing off into Haddy.

    Oh you're serious.... :open_mouth: You actually do think you're the best player in the game. Holy crap I've been going about this all wrong. You're not a hypocrite -- you're delusional. o.0

    When I made my video back in the day to one up you, did you actually take it seriously? That was me poking fun at a fellow mageblade, and you devolved it into this massive grudge... Wow. If it's such a big deal to you, go make another video to one up me back, or just get over it. Good grief.

    As for my group, we consistently beat Adamant even when outnumbered, so I don't know what you mean when you talk down about us... We beat them group v group, [Snip] and Michael 2v5ed them through a couple of camps, Immortal and Leif and a pug 3v5 or 6ed them. Like...we're the most competitive 8 or less man group running around right now, so what's this talking down to us? :( Heck, just the other night, my 7 man group killed your group of 17 EP pushing on that blue scroll that Unruh's group took from BRK. I remember looking at the kill counter as you fled toward the resource, and then laughing as my Endless Fury got the killing blow on you from someone else's follow up burst. We had 4 brand new guildies in group that night, so we wiped many times too. The fights were practive for them, but they were still close despite us being so outnumbered.

    You've never 1v2ed me with anyone. You ganked Zav and then beat me on my stamblade in a long fight after you failed to gank me. Also I had you on the defensive... I was just new to stamblade, so you blew me up after a while. I was so squishy. :<

    And I've never stolen your builds. Heck, the only build I have ever even known of yours is Julianos destro resto, which is just an item set. I've been running destro resto for months longer than I've even known you, and I've never run Julianos with it. I've never seen you do destro resto with indefinite 2pc Kena procs or heavy self-heals or heavy armor. I've never seen you do a non-destro resto setup besides your proxy bomb one, which I have like 4 builds for. I have more snb, dual wield non-proxy, and healer builds than I have staff builds... I have over 2 dozen golded out armor sets and every weapon imaginable in every combat stat trait, all resulting from incessant theorycrafting. So please tell me what exactly I stole from you?

    The rest of your post is irrational dribble..

    If you want anyone here to actually believe a word you say or take you seriously, you'll have to chill out and come down to Earth with the rest of us.

    This is completely false lol. I don't think we've ever fought you guys "group v group, as we are always on TF. Not even sure who is in your group, but I would remember if we were consistently owned by another small group...maybe you are thinking of another guild than Adamant (or you failed to notice 20+ pugs around you?). I don't care to argue, but don't make stuff up to prove a point lol.

    We play on both campaigns, and we both know I don't roll with pugs around me. Lol One fight was by BRK farm, another northeast of Bleakers, a couple by Arrius, and idk where the 2vgroups were as I was not there for them. I even pursued you away from the group myself after the BRK and Bleakers fights. This isn't a jab at you or your group. We respect you. But don't come up in here jabbing at me when I'm getting called out by forum trolls.

    Going to keep this short and address the points highlighted above. No sugar coating. No salt.
    • Months ago, our group was at Aleswell Mine fighting VE and pugs. After some good fights, we were completely overwhelmed and almost wiped by the blues. @Aenlir (on an AoE group build) just barely survived the raids only to end up "dueling" you a second later at the same resource while the place was swarming with blues.
      Fast forward (maybe a day or 2 later), @Aenlir and I were at Arrius Lumber, getting ambush spammed and chased by a raid. You, standing a few meters in front of me, decided it would be "funny" to just mark spam me as I was desperately trying to cloak away (I was on my nb). And that wasn't the first time you did that.
    • The fight at BRK farm that took place a month ago, was a 2v8.
      2v8 as in it was @Aenlir and I on our mDKs vs. you and 7 other DC. The fight happened right behind the resource tower on the rocks and near the well. There were no AD pugs assisting us. If that's your idea of "consistently beating
      Adamant even when outnumbered" or "group v group"
      or "2v5" or "3v6" ... then kudos.
    • Your false claims are a jab at our group, hence the counter jabs. Please don't involve us in your petty epeen quarrels.
    This thread is the definition of garbage.
    And having to comment here makes me want to throw up. Refer to @zyk 's comment for further clarification.

    Yet you keep coming here..

    Notice how in each of your examples, I wasn't in the pug groups. I was off to a side. Thanks for supporting my point?

    Yes I fought Aenlir 1v1 up on those rocks at Ales mine. I gave him plenty of time to regen resources, but I also didn't let him get away either. I wanted to fight a good fight, which I got and which I won. Notice that I didn't record it or bring it up here... I figured he was in group spec. Whatever.

    When I mark spammed you that one time (near Arrius?), it was to help you get away. I'm the only one that can see you in cloak when I mark you, in case you weren't aware. Notice that I wasn't hitting you.

    And you did have AD with you at the BRK farm fight. There were like a dozen of you total, but only 4 were clustered up on you two. I remember one was named Zeronia, who I had never seen before but thought might be Zerona. I figured the rest were pugs, but Aenlir clarified that they all were. Regardless, we fought you and Aenlir and those 4 the one time that descended into the cliffs, after which he and I joked about it and I said gf. We were outnumbered by both AD and Rylana's EP at that resource and enjoyed some good fights all around. Why is your ego so threatened by that? You engaged into us, lost, and I told my group to leave you alone for the rest of our time there.

    I don't know where you get off claiming you were alone or that I zerg with pugs.. Goodness. And this isn't an epeen thread. Well, maybe it is for Arinar...but he finally left. I already explained that I'm only defending myself to him. Does that really threaten you so much?

    Since we're taking shots, though, you of all Adamant have the least room to talk down to me, perhaps aside from Kaiz, who just runs away. You and I dueled on mageblades forever ago, and I beat you like 3 times in a row with my RP walk on with Aenlir watching. Baited you to drop your healing ward spam defense each time. The only times you've managed to kill me were proxy DB combos in open world while I was fighting other people or standing around emoting by Aenlir. Despite your animosity, he and I get along quite well. You and I used to be friends too, but you removed me. Dunno why to this day.

    I have a photographic memory. I can't help but remember things exactly as they happened. This is also a transparent and open forum where all claims are subject to scrutiny by the community. I'll be the last to try to misrepresent events or make something up.

    Now shove off with your attitude. It's no place here.

    Never said you were in the pug group. But its nice to know you solo around pugs raids.

    Mark spammed me to help me get away... that too when mark suffered from the perma mark bug ? lol thanks youre too kind. :lol:

    Noone really wants to know if you have photographic memory but ok.
    From our pov it was me and @Aenlir Vs. you and all the dc that were with you. Recall it however you want to call it. We were outnumbered. Not you.
    @Aenlir should really tell you what he said at that time. Maybe then you would know how well you get along with him :lol:

    And what is this about my ego being threatened ?
    My ego is as it was. I don't need you to tell me where I stand in my own guild and amongst my friends.
    I accept defeat with humility when i'm beaten and don't make excuses. When I lost to you on my manablade, I could have told you that it was the start of IC and i was in purple gear with garbage traits like reinforced. But I didn't make any excuses and accepted that I lost and added you so that I could duel you later when i'm geared.
    And how did you react to your little win ?
    You came on the forums and started bragging about how you RP walked and defeated me when people wouldn't include you but included me on their Top NB NA lists even though i don't consider myself as one of the top NBs. And you wonder why I removed you from my friends list. :lol:
    Even now, when we are talking about group play you are trying to flex your virtual muscles, bringing the same story up in a failed attempt to discredit the points I have made against your original jabs at my guild.
    You say this isn't an epeen thread yet here you are showcasing your "victories". Everything you post screams epeen and "Notice me Senpai".

    And I'm the one with ego issues ? Get outta here :lol:


    When we dueled I was in infused and divines crafted gear, also purple. Far from ideal.

    Um, you do realize at the time infused or divines was actually ideal and not terrible when it comes to being compared to reinforced.... Please stop trying to act like you were "not properly geared" like Ara was... Just from reading that, you had the unfair advantage unlike her when it comes to gear.

    Stop acting like a petty fool and understand that majority of what comes from your posts is not always fair and truth be told.
    Chilö-Magicka Templar (AR 38) Chì-Magicka Templar (AR 28) łvy- Stamina Warden (AR 7)
  • KenaPKK
    KenaPKK
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    manny254 wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    @KenaPKK the only fight I remember was the one at brk farm. That was just me and Ara, and you guys had a group. I also remember you using malubeth. I'm sure you remember it differently, so whatever, but if you don't see me, Mer, Ara, Mojican, Policy, Kaiz etc it's not a group v group.

    Edit: not salty or anything haha, just don't remember things the same I guess :D

    ^This.
    @KenaPKK - some people actually think you're a good player so if you truly are then you don't need to make (fake) publicity for you and your small-man by saying you beat us.
    I'm being honest here in saying I do not remember ever running into you (or the people in your small-man) except this one time when you were on your AD and you followed Mojican, Aenlir and I around for a bit, then this other time on your (main?) DC when you dueled Mojican and he beat you, after you tried to bomb us with bigger numbers and lost.

    I think this last one was at Chalman Lumber, but I could be wrong - I really don't pay attention to all these small details and make notes in my diary for future reference.
    This was a long time ago - haven't seen you since, fighting against us when we run our group or when we go out and duo.

    Also - why are you completely dodging Mojican's question?

    Yo chill. I'm not making publicity, and this thread isn't about Adamant. Heck I want this stupid conversation to end more than anyone. Arinar came up in here calling me out with his outrageous insults, and I'm defending myself and my boys. Unfortunately, he turned it into "he doesn't make fancy videos or try to get attention, therefore everything he says is false and he's bad."

    I have bombed Adamant twice ever. Nearly killed Policy once at Chalm mine, slipped out from under a detect pot, reappeared trying to /dance, got jumped on by him and Arnlir and died to another detect pot, came back at Chalm lumber and bombed again, died to mark and detect pot. Big deal, wasn't much of a chance to get him without an Alchemist build anyway, but it was fun. I was alone both times, and my group does not bomb outside of IC ever. Dunno who you are mistaking me for regarding the bombing and wiping despite outnumbering you.

    I've dueled Mojican 3 times. Once I was on my new stamblade. He was a 30k health stamplar with immov pots, and he rightfully rekt me. No surprise, I was learning stamblade, but that's what I do. I'm scrappy. I'll fight good players on new characters all day to learn them. Why's that suddenly ammo against me? Gtfo. Second time we dueled, I was on a brand new staffblade build. Couldn't outsustain him through the immovs, died, refined build. We still went a little while though. I was salty at the immov pots, which I believe is justified since you have to outsustain 30k health snb builds to win but cannot do so through immovability. I moved on. Third time, he was a magicka build, and we stalled. Still loved his immov pots (I'll never understand relying on those in 1v1s, but whatever). He and I have no beef about it, so why do you?

    I hadn't seen his question until you mentioned it. @manny254 if you need a formal fight that badly, be my guest. Hit up the people I mentioned. My first question when they told me about them was if they had recorded. They didn't, so I dropped it. This was over a month ago, and I only brought them up to put my group in perspective for Arinar. If I'd known Adamant cared so much as to come in swinging when I make some sideways comments to a pug, I'd have left it at the start. There's no disrespect here unless you're bringing it. I will warn you against throwing insults and rash assumptions though.

    God this thread has inflamed well beyond rationality. I am currently offline indefinitely due to computer trouble. Why don't you all go back to playing the game? I'm going to the beach where I won't be constantly bugged by notifications here. All the salt in the water will make me feel right at home. :trollface:

    You created a lie to boost your own ego. Of course I am going to call you on it. I would also love some organized fights, but please do not make up excuses like those lost duels. :#

    Where are lies or excuses?

    You created a false story, and created excuses for loosing duels in 2 of the 3 instances you mentioned. I get the people in dueling guilds take those seriously, but you should instead take them as lessons to improve.

    Except for the part where there's no false story, and not being experienced in a class and your use of immov pots are perfectly valid reasons to lose duels? I'm not mad that I lost. I am simply stating the reasons why I lost. You even told me after the stamplar versus mageblade one "yea you just have to outsustain me since you can't burst through a 30k health snb." In what world can anyone outsustain you when you're using stamina immov pots? Duels are only an indicator of skill if they occur under a certain set of rules which balance the field. I made the mistake of assuming you understood this before fighting you. We should repeat these fights without you crutching on the immovability, yes? I'll even bring my stamblade and sorc if you like. Idk if I'll win on them yet, but I'm better than I used to be. And what is with you people and false stories? Just because Arinar cried lies doesn't mean there are actually lies. Don't listen to him. He cries about a lot of things. Lmao

    You and Arinar are made for each other. You should really get a room together. Oh the delusions you could create together. The world would be scared.

    Something I use is a valid excuse for your failure? How does that logic follow? Why is it bad that I build for a sustained fight, and try to counter the burst builds of 90% of the community? Can the leader of the "Elite" Dueling Guild not out sustain a player that has never been in any dueling guild? I am sick of people complaining about immov pots. It is essentially complaining that you can not constantly try to burst someone. I am sorry that I enjoy more than just bursting other players, and if they really bother you go buy some instead of blaming me.

    They create endless fights. In that particular duel, I had a little over 20 or 22k health -- i.e. squishy as ***-- and had iffy sustain. I was between builds trying to figure some stuff out, so of course you won. I never said you didn't deserve it. What's this attitude for?

    If we repeat the fight with the build which that one refined to, the fight would never end. I ended up with 33.5k health, comparable albeit dodgeable damage, a ton of bonus healing (no I wasn't using Malubeth), and infinite resources without immovs (Siphon Attacks and NB passives op).

    Building to resist burst and to outsustain people instead of bursting them is fine. That's how all of my builds work too. But the game currently gives us too much sustain via CP, and immov pots only increase stamina sustain further.

    TLDR: In order to win a fight via sustain, you must be able to actually run the guy out of resources. Can't run a well built player out of stam if they're running immovs.

    Do you claim that any of this is false?

    I'll be happy to rematch you either without immovs or on Azura's once my computer is fixed. Otherwise it's a moot point.

    Except if was a redguard I would have more sustain then an imperial with immov....

    I get it. Most the "duelers" don't like having long fights based on sustain. That is great, but don't use it as an excuse for getting rekt. You seem to have forgotten that both the duels you referenced did not last longer than a single potion cooldown, and there was one that lasted about 15 seconds. Frankly I should know by now that expecting you to not have an excuse is a waste of time.

    Continue to make excuses, and not improve. Sounds like most "Duelers" to me. BTW My build is stronger in Azuras then normal CP :s

    I'm curious to see how your build is stronger in Azura's if you're an imperial stacking damage and durability. That is, assuming that immovables aren't "part of your build" there as they are in CP campaigns, or that you aren't basing the effectiveness of your build on one shotting clueless new players. Losing CP reduces sustain and max stats, both of which imperials tend to like. Very curious.

    As for duelers, we actually prefer longer fights based on sustain. We just don't like infinite sustain. Never ending fights make us grumpy. Didn't I warn you against making rash assumptions before?

    And imperials can be built to have infinite sustain using immovs just like Redguards. Redguards would just hit harder. The comparison is irrelevant. You won duels in a refined build against good matchups in less refined builds. Didn't I already explain that I went in expecting to lose trying to practice stamblade and refine a new mageblade build? But even still, who cares? If you want serious fights, come to duels and follow the rules. Otherwise why so serious? Why come in here acting like those sorts of fights mean anything? No one who understands 1v1s will give a damn about an open world fight, so stop basing your ego on it. There are too many variables in play.
    Kena
    Legion XIII
    Excellence without elitism
    Premier small scale PvP

    Legend
    NA/PC original dueling and general PvP community guild
    Now the hub of competitive dueling and the joined PvP communities of NA and EU/PC


    Apex Predator.

    Here's a great thread collecting community ideas for PvP updates.

    [MEGATHREAD] Feedback Threads for Class Reps

    Class Representative Feedback Discords:
    Nightblade Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/t2Xhnu6

    Dragonknight Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/UHtZhz8

    Sorcerer Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/e3QkCS8

    Templar Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/WvVuSw7

    Warden Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/sTFY4ys

    General Healing Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/6CmzBFb

    TONKS!
    https://discord.gg/DRNYd39

    Werewolf Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/aDEx2ev

    Vampire Discussion:
    https://discord.gg/yfzck8Q
  • RadioheadSh0t
    RadioheadSh0t
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    5b7e0fdd39178dc8d4148618607fc96fb8908a1ea62c04119630f50f349c4ce1.jpg
    Aldonius Direnni - Vet Altmer Sorc (AD)
    Tyrus Telvanni - Vet Dunmer DK (AD)
    Al Donius Bundy - Vet Imperial NB (AD)
    Aldonius Brutus - Vet Orc DK (DC)
This discussion has been closed.