ESO - One Tamriel (what are your thoughts?)

Nifty2g · June 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

all they are doing is effectively removing 1-50 and making it all based around champion points, which i believe would be their long term goal. I 100% agree with it

Wait so @Nifty2g it seems like everyone will just be CP 150 when you start the game.If everyone battled level what the point of that?Also wouldn't that make people want to use the grouping tool less since you can now be in a group with a level one during Vet Dungeons?

Can't expect the grouping to be perfect, never will be. But I assume people would have a lot more skillpoints or something

Toc de Malsvi · June 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

all they are doing is effectively removing 1-50 and making it all based around champion points, which i believe would be their long term goal. I 100% agree with it

Wait so @Nifty2g it seems like everyone will just be CP 150 when you start the game.If everyone battled level what the point of that?Also wouldn't that make people want to use the grouping tool less since you can now be in a group with a level one during Vet Dungeons?

@Jaronking
No, check the link posted previously in the thread, they said non vet characters would not have access to veteran dungeons. As well as players who have not unlocked Cold Harbor through quests will not be able to travel there unless they use travel to group/guild member. Everyone will be scaled up to cp150 but not actually have the CP or weapon/spell damage.

Toc de Malsvi · June 2016

I can tell you right now, even in max purple gear I cannot achieve the same weapon damage as I do on my v16.

Lokey0024 · June 2016

Love this change.

James-Wayne · June 2016

Should have been like this at launch in 2014... Now wheres the next DLC announcement!?!

NewBlacksmurf · June 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

all they are doing is effectively removing 1-50 and making it all based around champion points, which i believe would be their long term goal. I 100% agree with it

Wait so @Nifty2g it seems like everyone will just be CP 150 when you start the game.If everyone battled level what the point of that?Also wouldn't that make people want to use the grouping tool less since you can now be in a group with a level one during Vet Dungeons?

Can't expect the grouping to be perfect, never will be. But I assume people would have a lot more skillpoints or something

They aren't giving away skill and stat points. Matt F specifically mentioned this.

It's just opening up the world....nothing more or less.
Peoples behaviors will continue but now ppl can group without some existing restrictions.

Imagine each town regardless of you're starting faction, being a hub.
Imagine guilds being....Guilds.

This basically sets up the game to be what it should've been day 1.

An open sandbox and while I know ppl don't realize how much good this brings, even if nothing else is changed in the fall, this announcement is the best thing. I actually would've preferred this over the silly VR to CP conversion but not to be confused. Levels 1-49 matter still

ItsGlaive · June 2016

Certainly not the announcement I think any of us were expecting (personally I'd have liked to see news on housing/barbershop/next two DLCs) but still, sounds great for new players and those of us who'd like to group with friends in other factions. Two concerns though:

I hope this isn't the 'only' focus for the remainder of the year - in lieu of actual content.
I hope they either rework the main alliance narrative quests to factor in the changes, or keep those specifically gated behind linear quest completion so that the story pre-Cadwell continues to make sense.

ItsGlaive · June 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

An open sandbox

I agree it's a great change, but this is not sandbox. Open world definitely, but sandbox is still ways off.

NewBlacksmurf · June 2016

Xabien wrote: »

Certainly not the announcement I think any of us were expecting (personally I'd have liked to see news on housing/barbershop/next two DLCs) but still, sounds great for new players and those of us who'd like to group with friends in other factions. Two concerns though:
I hope this isn't the 'only' focus for the remainder of the year - in lieu of actual content.

I hope they either rework the main alliance narrative quests to factor in the changes, or keep those specifically gated behind linear quest completion so that the story pre-Cadwell continues to make sense.

They're literally reworking levels 1-VR10 (cp110) zones and scaling the whole world.

That is content unless you've completed every quest in the whole game which I'm sure VERY few have.
U may have the basic titles but there is a lot more offered when everything is always at level.

And considering they basically are about to pop the top off the CP cap and roll out more gear tiers....this is a BIG change that's far more content for all than any one DLC.

I'd much rather this, over any DLC

Epona222 · June 2016

It kind of makes me wish that they would communicate with us a bit better about their longterm plans for the game. I mean this is all fine, but I'm kind of getting sick of major changes. I'd like to feel that I had some grasp on what they were going for over the longterm. If they know themselves that is.

nihonseanb14_ESO · June 2016

Oh cool.

Does this mean they've fixed all the broken *** in this game?

lol....yeah,

Don't know what I was thinking there...

Osteos · June 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

all they are doing is effectively removing 1-50 and making it all based around champion points, which i believe would be their long term goal. I 100% agree with it

Wait so @Nifty2g it seems like everyone will just be CP 150 when you start the game.If everyone battled level what the point of that?Also wouldn't that make people want to use the grouping tool less since you can now be in a group with a level one during Vet Dungeons?

Can't expect the grouping to be perfect, never will be. But I assume people would have a lot more skillpoints or something

They aren't giving away skill and stat points. Matt F specifically mentioned this.

It's just opening up the world....nothing more or less.
Peoples behaviors will continue but now ppl can group without some existing restrictions.

Imagine each town regardless of you're starting faction, being a hub.
Imagine guilds being....Guilds.

This basically sets up the game to be what it should've been day 1.

An open sandbox and while I know ppl don't realize how much good this brings, even if nothing else is changed in the fall, this announcement is the best thing. I actually would've preferred this over the silly VR to CP conversion but not to be confused. Levels 1-49 matter still

How do levels 1-49 matter? Everything is being battle leveled. They are making us all 50 and you just unlock skill pts and champion pts as you gain xp.

kevlarto_ESO · June 2016

Reserving comment until I get to play it, and see how it works. I am neutral on the announcement at the moment.

Paraflex · June 2016

Garbage news this isn't anything new

Bizzquik · June 2016

James-Wayne wrote: »

Should have been like this at launch in 2014... Now wheres the next DLC announcement!?!

LoL. Yup. My thoughts exactly.

"That's cool, I guess. But is this it for Q3 DLC...?"

Faulgor · June 2016

Epona222 wrote: »

It kind of makes me wish that they would communicate with us a bit better about their longterm plans for the game. I mean this is all fine, but I'm kind of getting sick of major changes. I'd like to feel that I had some grasp on what they were going for over the longterm. If they know themselves that is.

Matt Firor said this was going to happen in his Year Ahead article in January.

We've already announced our first two DLC game packs / Updates in 2016: Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood (Q1 and Q2, respectively), and will be working on much more in 2016, including a major change in how world zones treat player character levels.

Epona222 · June 2016

I'm not against it - but at some point they need to stop focusing on trying to win back the people who played for 3 days during beta or 2 weeks at launch and didn't like it, and concentrate on pleasing their solid continuous fanbase with stuff that we have asked for and want - which includes (from various different types of players) veteran versions of all dungeons, new group dungeons, new trials, token system rather than RNG for high level dungeon content rewards, old trials scaled, old gear scaled so it can drop at max, dueling/group arena battles in some form or another, combat dummies, player housing, costume dyes, more quest content, more QoL RP stuff...

It's that sort of thing that will bring players back in, and that sort of thing that will make existing players tell their friends "this is a great game, come and play it with me", don't underestimate the power of word of mouth.

Conquistador · June 2016

Garbage game.

Aeladiir · June 2016

Conquistador wrote: »

Garbage game.

Bye

Mordiez · June 2016

Getting to actually see people in other alliances will be nice instead of entering ghost towns, the social aspect will be nice.

Mettaricana · June 2016

Crimsonwolf666 wrote: »

I am confused as to what the point will be in leveling up if everything everywhere is scaled? I don't think there is enough information regarding this, also I may be reading it wrong, but it seems like there will be zero motive to level up or create new characters (unless you RP). Also, while I get dungeons, trials, etc... for having a wider range of grouping options, I am confused why people need better grouping options for the rest of the zones regular Pve (minus Craglorn, of course)?

Actually levels d plauers will still be stronger than scaled

Morimizo · June 2016

I have to wonder, remember what happened to the server when they tried to invite everyone to the same spot for pictures, but it was one per alliance?

Now all alliances will be together for the picture?

*KABOOMAGE*

I will miss a quiet Khenarthi's Roost in Cadwell's Gold. Sometimes it's nice to get away from the maddening crowd.

Blackfyre20 · June 2016

I suppose I could have been more disappointed in the announcement but not by much. I guess this is sort of... nice? makes it easier to play with friends. Nothing about any new content at all though? Personally I PVP mostly but also enjoy some PVE and this game at its core with its combat system is an absolute gem, but it's sad to watch it waste away while zos continues to just try and sell games to new players who will buy some crowns, play for a bit, and then leave.

ItsGlaive · June 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Xabien wrote: »

Certainly not the announcement I think any of us were expecting (personally I'd have liked to see news on housing/barbershop/next two DLCs) but still, sounds great for new players and those of us who'd like to group with friends in other factions. Two concerns though:
I hope this isn't the 'only' focus for the remainder of the year - in lieu of actual content.

I hope they either rework the main alliance narrative quests to factor in the changes, or keep those specifically gated behind linear quest completion so that the story pre-Cadwell continues to make sense.

They're literally reworking levels 1-VR10 (cp110) zones and scaling the whole world.

That is content unless you've completed every quest in the whole game which I'm sure VERY few have.

Yep it's REWORKED content, as you yourself have just said. Also a great many of us have completed every quest in this game - you need to have completed almost all of them already just to get the titles.

Like I said, good announcement, I can see the value in it, but an announcement on new content coming this year would've been much more exciting for me personally.

Epona222 · June 2016

Morimizo wrote: »

I have to wonder, remember what happened to the server when they tried to invite everyone to the same spot for pictures, but it was one per alliance?

Now all alliances will be together for the picture?

*KABOOMAGE*

I will miss a quiet Khenarthi's Roost in Cadwell's Gold. Sometimes it's nice to get away from the maddening crowd.

They did it on each alliance, and I tried with a character on each alliance, and my game crashed every time. I didn't get into a single picture, because my game kept crashing.

So once this happens I guess I can say goodbye to being able to do stuff in Deshaan on an AD or DC character.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · June 2016

Best E3 ever on account of this and Skyrim's Remaster.

Also I made a pole about this once where they should remove faction limitations from PvE and unite the game into 1 Main Instance instead of 3.

Chillic · June 2016

My thoughts are they had no clue what they were doing, or at least what they wanted to do so they are trying yet another direction. Still too much broken *** in this game to get excited about anything that comes out of this dude's mouth.

Loralai_907 · June 2016

Completely disappointing.

Cool. The zones are going to be more crowded maybe. Oh hi person from another faction. Or is that not going to be a thing anymore? So, I can go get skyshards wherever I want, cool I guess. I've done all the questing, I don't really want to do more than I have to in order to level alts at this point.

Nothing about new content? No HINT of coming DLC's? Just a 30 second blurb about some nonsense.

I'm sorry, I just have nothing nice to say right now lol. I've deleted two other attempts that were more grumpy than this.

Morimizo · June 2016

Epona222 wrote: »

Morimizo wrote: »

I have to wonder, remember what happened to the server when they tried to invite everyone to the same spot for pictures, but it was one per alliance?

Now all alliances will be together for the picture?

*KABOOMAGE*

I will miss a quiet Khenarthi's Roost in Cadwell's Gold. Sometimes it's nice to get away from the maddening crowd.

They did it on each alliance, and I tried with a character on each alliance, and my game crashed every time. I didn't get into a single picture, because my game kept crashing.

So once this happens I guess I can say goodbye to being able to do stuff in Deshaan on an AD or DC character.

This actually is my chief concern; the busy trading districts like Mournhold, Rawl'Kha, and Wayrest are going to be beyond busy. Hope their servers (and my own IP) can handle it.

I crashed as well trying to participate in the pic, but just once; kudos to your patience for trying three times!

SantieClaws · June 2016

Can it be true? Can Khajiit finally go fishing with the friends in far off alliances.

Oh this one has dreamed of such things since she was a kitten.

Now all the friends of Khajiit will be able to enjoy the delights of The Rosy Lion together!

Yours with hopefully and happy paws
Santie Claws