ESO - One Tamriel (what are your thoughts?)

Danikat

frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »

Please ZOS , we dont want another Guild Wars 2 game ..we want Elder Scrolls.

To me this is making it much more like an Elder Scrolls game because freedom to explore has always been one of the selling points of the series.

If I randomly decide I want to head up to the north coast of Skyrim I don't have to make sure I complete all the quests around Whiterun first and then go to the adjacent city and complete all those quests and slowly make my way there when the game has decided for me that I'm ready for it.

But that's exactly what happens in ESO at the moment (and Guild Wars for that matter, they scale you down but not up so you're still locked out of high level zones until you level up) and it's been incredibly frustrating.

I'm really looking forward to this coming in. I feel like this is going to make it exactly what I always imagined an Elder Scrolls MMO would be.

clocksstoppe

This is extremely bad. There is no sense of progression when you get scaled constantly. It's actually why I didn't even do DLCs before DB, it felt boring and a cheat.

Taisynn

What happens to Cadwell's Silver and Gold quests? This is all very confusing, and how would this make sense story wise?

Tryxus

If everything gets scaled in every zone:

- Justice PvP might actually be on its way again
- Alliance Changes could happen
- No more Silver and Gold
- Easier to group for Trials
- Everything scaled to max: Pledges, trials,...
- etc
- ...

It sounds really good, ya know. There's a lot of advantages for new players while it also opens up possibilities to keep the game interesting for veteran players

Turelus

Torbschka wrote: »

Cant believe anyone is happy about this...

Why you people dont see it? This is only for NEW players.. again people, listen, its for:

NEW PLAYERS, NEW PLAYERS, NEW PLAYERS

Why the hell should any1 with 2-3 max level cahracters care about leveling ? Nothin will change, ecept the fact that u can start in every faction no matter what faction u did choose... woah... AWESOME lol

I really like story and leveling in MMOS, but heres the thing: ONCE, now its just a torture to leveln an alt and this wont change anything. I'm so *** disappointed and most of u guys even say that its great, I cant belive it.

Story - same, quests - same, every other things - same, why the *** are u hyped for this, most of us have already seen everything in ESO with their first character.

I wanted them to alk about ENDGAME stuff- this is actual for "OLD" players who have supported that game from start:

1. Arenas
2. Battlegrounds
3. Raids
4. New Dungeons
5. Housing
6. etc

etc. plz stop hyping that crap ***

TL;DR: I don't like this because it doesn't effect me so no one else should be happy about it. The fact anyone is excited about something which I don't agree with is terrible.

Torbschka

Turelus wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Cant believe anyone is happy about this...

Why you people dont see it? This is only for NEW players.. again people, listen, its for:

NEW PLAYERS, NEW PLAYERS, NEW PLAYERS

Why the hell should any1 with 2-3 max level cahracters care about leveling ? Nothin will change, ecept the fact that u can start in every faction no matter what faction u did choose... woah... AWESOME lol

I really like story and leveling in MMOS, but heres the thing: ONCE, now its just a torture to leveln an alt and this wont change anything. I'm so *** disappointed and most of u guys even say that its great, I cant belive it.

Story - same, quests - same, every other things - same, why the *** are u hyped for this, most of us have already seen everything in ESO with their first character.

I wanted them to alk about ENDGAME stuff- this is actual for "OLD" players who have supported that game from start:

1. Arenas
2. Battlegrounds
3. Raids
4. New Dungeons
5. Housing
6. etc

etc. plz stop hyping that crap ***

TL;DR: I don't like this because it doesn't effect me so no one else should be happy about it. The fact anyone is excited about something which I don't agree with is terrible.

TL:DR: I'm a fanboy and need to protect great ZOS, regardless waht they do.

Oh plz, great turelus, tell me: what will change for any max level character with this great update?

sadownik

krees28b14_ESO wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

krees28b14_ESO wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Pretty disappointing at first look, but I won't be sure until I hear more.

Agreed. Nice little announcement, but till I get some details I am not holding my breath on what exactly he meant.

It sounds like they are going the GW2 approach with dynamically scaling content/events but I can't be sure.

Yeah it does. But till they tell us more in the coming months and what else is coming with it (housing, new pvp, FIXED pvp would also be nice) I'm not going to get to excited. I do hope it is cross platform or at least one day it will be.

BS. GW2 scales zones for higher lvl players to allow them still get xp and loot. If you go into higher lvl zone you still get your arse handleled to you - therefore you still want to lvl. In ESO it will be a total mess with another band aid.

DO you people really belive this game suddenly will become "skyrim online"? Its a theme park ffs. Destroying the themepark structure and leaving all the quests as they are (and Z. will leave them like that) will be a total, utter mess.

Jim_Pipp

xoduspaladin wrote: »

New or returning players will love it. Old players will complain that there is nothing for them. Both group will be right.

A very good summary by @xoduspaladin. Read their quote as my TLDR

Anyone who's seen my posts elsewhere will know I am pretty positive about ESO, and I'm not meaning this to be as critical as it sounds, but does anyone else feel that we've had nearly three years of extended beta testing?

I'm not starting about the bugs (I accept there will always be bugs in a game, and ZOS does get round to fixing them, albeit somewhat slowly).

Thieves guild, dark brotherhood and an unrestricted map are essential ingredients in an elder scrolls game and argueably should have been in the game at launch. It strikes me that ZOS's development priorities have been making us the game we expected 3 years ago, and aren't acknowledging that ESO is now it's own moderately successful and distinctive MMO.

On principle I like that they are trying to make ESO more like an elder scrolls game, but I am now heavily invested in ESO, so would like to see it develop according to it's own strengths, which should include PVP.

Based on my assessment, a prediction for the future is that we will next see class removal, which would allow a more creative PVE experience, but will only reduce PVP variety.

Cherryblossom

If only I could believe that this will work well.

Evergnar

I don't know what to make of it really. Originally I wanted an open world sandbox ESO but accepted the themepark version for what it is. Question is what's the plan for this major change, what does it mean and where is Zos headed with this.

Turelus

Torbschka wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Cant believe anyone is happy about this...

Why you people dont see it? This is only for NEW players.. again people, listen, its for:

NEW PLAYERS, NEW PLAYERS, NEW PLAYERS

Why the hell should any1 with 2-3 max level cahracters care about leveling ? Nothin will change, ecept the fact that u can start in every faction no matter what faction u did choose... woah... AWESOME lol

I really like story and leveling in MMOS, but heres the thing: ONCE, now its just a torture to leveln an alt and this wont change anything. I'm so *** disappointed and most of u guys even say that its great, I cant belive it.

Story - same, quests - same, every other things - same, why the *** are u hyped for this, most of us have already seen everything in ESO with their first character.

I wanted them to alk about ENDGAME stuff- this is actual for "OLD" players who have supported that game from start:

1. Arenas
2. Battlegrounds
3. Raids
4. New Dungeons
5. Housing
6. etc

etc. plz stop hyping that crap ***

TL;DR: I don't like this because it doesn't effect me so no one else should be happy about it. The fact anyone is excited about something which I don't agree with is terrible.

TL:DR: I'm a fanboy and need to protect great ZOS, regardless waht they do.

Oh plz, great turelus, tell me: what will change for any max level character with this great update?

Probably the stuff they have yet to announce, the balance passes, updated trials, new DLC zones etc.

Or do you believe they the only thing they will release during this update period will be this change with nothing else to come? We've just come off the backs for four DLC updates with new content for players, adding in a solo area, trials, updated IC changes.

We also know of their future plans for other DLC via previous videos shown at shows, datamining, interviews etc. Everything you listed has been said to be coming at some point. They even said housing would be this year.

So it's happening, they're just not announcing it yet. This is one single change which has been announced, wait and see what else they say over the coming months.

Calandrae

I'm not excited. All my characters are max level these days. I'm actually extremely disappointed with no news about end-game content (dungeons, trials) or housing/barbershop. Those would actually add something to the gameplay.

I can see how "One Tamriel" can be fun for a new player or somebody still leveling alts. But for somebody with max level characters for different roles and in different alliances, every quest done several times... Not so much is going to change or add to the experience.

A huge meh.

I will have to wait and see, but if this is the only thing Zos has in store for the autumn, I'm not sure ESO will stay interesting for me.

Wtrenga

I am happy to see this and I can't imagine that they would be so dumb to include other faction-related quests....but we never know...strange things have happened before.

Overall - good direction!

Torbschka

Turelus wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Cant believe anyone is happy about this...

Why you people dont see it? This is only for NEW players.. again people, listen, its for:

NEW PLAYERS, NEW PLAYERS, NEW PLAYERS

Why the hell should any1 with 2-3 max level cahracters care about leveling ? Nothin will change, ecept the fact that u can start in every faction no matter what faction u did choose... woah... AWESOME lol

I really like story and leveling in MMOS, but heres the thing: ONCE, now its just a torture to leveln an alt and this wont change anything. I'm so *** disappointed and most of u guys even say that its great, I cant belive it.

Story - same, quests - same, every other things - same, why the *** are u hyped for this, most of us have already seen everything in ESO with their first character.

I wanted them to alk about ENDGAME stuff- this is actual for "OLD" players who have supported that game from start:

1. Arenas
2. Battlegrounds
3. Raids
4. New Dungeons
5. Housing
6. etc

etc. plz stop hyping that crap ***

TL;DR: I don't like this because it doesn't effect me so no one else should be happy about it. The fact anyone is excited about something which I don't agree with is terrible.

TL:DR: I'm a fanboy and need to protect great ZOS, regardless waht they do.

Oh plz, great turelus, tell me: what will change for any max level character with this great update?

Probably the stuff they have yet to announce, the balance passes, updated trials, new DLC zones etc.

Or do you believe they the only thing they will release during this update period will be this change with nothing else to come? We've just come off the backs for four DLC updates with new content for players, adding in a solo area, trials, updated IC changes.

We also know of their future plans for other DLC via previous videos shown at shows, datamining, interviews etc. Everything you listed has been said to be coming at some point. They even said housing would be this year.

So it's happening, they're just not announcing it yet. This is one single change which has been announced, wait and see what else they say over the coming months.

okay, I wait another year for any PvP update, its cool.

This is really nothing against you, I really was hyped about this E3 because I really hoped that they will tell us something about Arenas/Battleground/ANYTHING-ABOUT-PVP and all we get is that.

I cant believe that arenas took so long and that scares me - It doesnt took taht much time to create *** arenas (they already had one in 2014), this just shows: they dont care - and this hurts the most. They just want to sell more boxes with that (new players, etc.), but dont really care about what "most" of the PVP-Community wants - instanced (cuz its lagfree) pvp. I'm just disappointed and I really dont wanna wait another year..

WeerW3ir

so zones are cut by 2/3? imagine the competition for resources

Lysette

I am pretty excited about this actually - it will end my imprisonment in lower level zones and I can go out and explore the world of Tamriel without to have to level up first. Progression will finally be more skill- than level-based, the only thing what leveling up does then is shape the relation between the attributes, add skill point(s) and unlock access to higher level gear.

Story-driven content will (with the exception of Coldhabor) no longer be level-gated and we might finally get an open world with cooperative gameplay - with the exception of Cyrrodil of course, which will remain competitive. I am not quite sure, how this will actually work - will NPCs be scaled appropriate to us or will we be scaled up or down to get on par with zone levels.

Dependent on how this will be implemented, I see as well the possibility on the horizon for difficulty sliders - when all will be scaled, there should be a way to scale individually as well - a notch more difficult or less in non-veteran, to accommodate to different playstyle - and in veteran mode it could even be between carebear and nightmare. Of course with adjusted XP and CP gain accordingly to chosen difficulty - this is not part of the deal yet, but I see this coming once scaling will be implemented everywhere and made sure to work properly. It would be an option to do this then.

Edit: I am as well happy to finally hear a number, which should end the rumors about decreasing populations, while in fact they are increasing, just like it felt in all of the months where I am in ESO. Looks like we will finally get our TES fan version of Tamriel. Mr. Firor said, this is upcoming for fall - now guess, what I think, will be our christmas gift this year - Vvardenfell - it has to be Vvardenfell. Zenimax is on the revival trip, see the many announcements, which resurrect legacy games and give them some new shine - what would be better in this matter than to have Vvardenfell be treated in the same way in ESO - it would go pretty well with what Bethesda is aiming at currently.

Enodoc

Very much looking forward to the cross-faction possibilities. Not sure how the story progression will work, though.

Battle-levelling everywhere I really don't know about. If you can't go to an area and find a monster that you can't kill because it's too powerful (meaning you need to level up to be able to handle it), where's the sense of progression?

Turelus

Enodoc wrote: »

Very much looking forward to the cross-faction possibilities. Not sure how the story progression will work, though.

Battle-levelling everywhere I really don't know about. If you can't go to an area and find a monster that you can't kill because it's too powerful (meaning you need to level up to be able to handle it), where's the sense of progression?

Battle levelled character are still not quite as strong as a normal character of that level though right?

Might also be possible for ZOS to look into an option which if you're base level is lower than the zone you get slightly under levelled fro it to make sure challenge remains.

SantieClaws

Also this one would suggest that now it will be easier to get help from your many friends to bring down that nasty monster when all friends can travel to each other.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Lysette

Enodoc wrote: »

Very much looking forward to the cross-faction possibilities. Not sure how the story progression will work, though.

Battle-levelling everywhere I really don't know about. If you can't go to an area and find a monster that you can't kill because it's too powerful (meaning you need to level up to be able to handle it), where's the sense of progression?

There is still a difference between players in regards to available skills and gear, the way in which attributes relate to each other and how champion points are used. There are still levels, it is not as if those were gone, but their impact is not that overwhelming any longer then - what is a good thing.

Pendrillion

Hm... I don't know if I should laugh or cry...

First and foremost, there were two major game exhibition events, where Zeni could have risen to form and show a real roadmap to what is coming. Sure rumour has it, that they will cater to our cries for Player Housing and also Vvardenfell. Which makes me a pretty happy puppy. But wouldn't E3 be the perfect place to give us some material on what is to come? And then again it seems more and more that Zenimax Company treats the ES as the ugly step child to Fallout... Which kind of annoys me as fan and supporter of Bethsoft since 2002. But hell I am just a customer. What do I know. At least the Board is happy rolling around in their invested millions. (Sorry for being a bit disgruntled)

As for ESO... No borders... sounds very good to me. I always wished to be able to walk from Northpoint to Southpoint. Also, alliance restriction lifting... fine with me. I hope they fill the zones with new content, maybe phased and curtailed to be meaningful as adventurer of an opposing faction. It could do the game well. But there needs to be a lot of refurbishing and adjustments to the existing content, and additionally add new content to old zones. Make it worthwhile to travel and explore.

As for the name... By Azura NO... Keep the Tamriel Unlimited name, that would make at least some sense, compared to "One Tamriel" which is barely english if you ask me.

Lysette

Pendrillion wrote: »

Hm... I don't know if I should laugh or cry...

First and foremost, there were two major game exhibition events, where Zeni could have risen to form and show a real roadmap to what is coming. Sure rumour has it, that they will cater to our cries for Player Housing and also Vvardenfell. Which makes me a pretty happy puppy. But wouldn't E3 be the perfect place to give us some material on what is to come? And then again it seems more and more that Zenimax Company treats the ES as the ugly step child to Fallout... Which kind of annoys me as fan and supporter of Bethsoft since 2002. But hell I am just a customer. What do I know. At least the Board is happy rolling around in their invested millions. (Sorry for being a bit disgruntled)

As for ESO... No borders... sounds very good to me. I always wished to be able to walk from Northpoint to Southpoint. Also, alliance restriction lifting... fine with me. I hope they fill the zones with new content, maybe phased and curtailed to be meaningful as adventurer of an opposing faction. It could do the game well. But there needs to be a lot of refurbishing and adjustments to the existing content, and additionally add new content to old zones. Make it worthwhile to travel and explore.

As for the name... By Azura NO... Keep the Tamriel Unlimited name, that would make at least some sense, compared to "One Tamriel" which is barely english if you ask me.

I doubt that the name of the game is changing, this is just the feature name.

Taruha

I for one am excited, cross faction role play will finally be a thing ^__^

Eshelmen

What's the point of progressing as a new player if everything is already available at the start?

Who the hell wants to play an MMO that has no sense of direction?

Makes no sense to me at all.

Rev Rielle

Taisynn wrote: »

What happens to Cadwell's Silver and Gold quests? This is all very confusing, and how would this make sense story wise?

They are still there. They will questlines you can complete, just like they are now, but you will not be required you to complete them before moving on to any zone.

Enodoc

Lysette wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Very much looking forward to the cross-faction possibilities. Not sure how the story progression will work, though.

Battle-levelling everywhere I really don't know about. If you can't go to an area and find a monster that you can't kill because it's too powerful (meaning you need to level up to be able to handle it), where's the sense of progression?

There is still a difference between players in regards to available skills and gear, the way in which attributes relate to each other and how champion points are used. There are still levels, it is not as if those were gone, but their impact is not that overwhelming any longer then - what is a good thing.

Sure there's still a difference in how many skills you have, but with gear and attributes, as well as damage and mitigation stats, battle-levelling scales them up to be equivalent to max, so they will effectively always be the same.

Turelus wrote: »

Battle levelled character are still not quite as strong as a normal character of that level though right?

I haven't looked into it in detail, but after the changes they made in Update 8, the differences between a battle-levelled-to-VR15 and a true VR15 were, in theory, supposed to be negligible, since battle levelling takes into account your gear and how you have allocated your attribute points.

Tabbycat

I wish it was coming sooner!

Lysette

What I find really cool is, that I will not be forced to do a whole lot of quests to become stronger, I can do them at my leisure and focus on exploration and finding skyshards and lore books instead - i am not using an add-on for this, so this is still exciting for me to do and makes exploration so much more rewarding - add-ons for skyshards and lore books might be helpful for some, but they take away this sense of exploration and the rewarding experience to finally see the white beam of a shard.

Lysette

Eshelmen wrote: »

What's the point of progressing as a new player if everything is already available at the start?

Who the hell wants to play an MMO that has no sense of direction?

Makes no sense to me at all.

Skill driven MMOs are like this - you have to find your direction, it is not forced on you by the game.

Rev Rielle

SantieClaws wrote: »

Also this one would suggest that now it will be easier to get help from your many friends to bring down that nasty monster when all friends can travel to each other.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

I agree! For me this is the single best addition.

We can now help out friends, or others that need help, without completely trivializing their content, or being limited by our alliance. It's going to be great for those of us that like to help out. Really really great news.