ESO - One Tamriel (what are your thoughts?)

exeeter702 · June 2016

One Tamriel these @#$%

Offer a paid account transfer from console to PC.

NewBlacksmurf · June 2016

victorhrpereira wrote: »

Here hoping that they remove the grouping restriction from Craglorn.

@victorhrpereira
After reading the article, it seems the point of this change is to add more players rather than remove the Craglorn grouping requirements.

Dromede · June 2016

They are back online

Toc de Malsvi · June 2016

Moonscythe wrote: »

I watched the stream hoping for something about housing and barber shop and maybe even Vvardenfel. I will reserve judgement on One Tamriel until more details emerge. He at least answered the burning question of many, there are 7 million of us.

I didn't expect much from Bethesda and didn't get it either. With more additions to Fallout 4 and VR on the way it would appear that those of us waiting have a couple of years for TES 7. Bah

I don't think you understood his number right, go to the link provided above. There are 7 million unique accounts created and played on since launch, not there are 7 million players actively playing. You could have only 1 million actively playing and 6 million who left and still make the same statement.

clayandaudrey_ESO · June 2016

victorhrpereira wrote: »

Here hoping that they remove the grouping restriction from Craglorn.

The grouping requirement will be removed for anyone with the former emperor or master angler titles.

Necrelios · June 2016

Well it's pretty much what I've been dreaming of ever since I started playing ESO. Very awesome news indeed.

Birdovic · June 2016

This whole "no level restrictions" thing once again makes me hope, that some day we will have every single Item set at "max level".

victorhrpereira · June 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

victorhrpereira wrote: »

Here hoping that they remove the grouping restriction from Craglorn.

@victorhrpereira
After reading the article, it seems the point of this change is to add more players rather than remove the Craglorn grouping requirements.

Yeah I understand they want more players and also make it easy for us to play with friends, but what I said about craglorn is that I hope they remove those restrictions so people can play the storyline alone or with smaller groups. I have yet to complete it cause no one is interested in doing it and when you find someone, they just want to rush through the dialogue.

Glaiceana · June 2016

If this means what I think it does, this is great news! Right from the start I thought it was kind of crazy that once you completed your main quest in your zone, travelling to the silver and gold zones did not allow you to see the players there, only those of your own faction, it made no sense really. If I can now see players of all alliances this is amazing! And even better as a leader of a multi faction guild!

Baldigar · June 2016

I'm personally super happy about it. It was one of the things I was most frustrated with. The game largely doesn't have power creep as you level (with gear or skills; I mean you can get legendary stuff at level 1), so I never understood why there was any need to have level-bound content in the first place. I think levels are fine, as a way to slowly give skill points to your character, but I saw no reason to limit what you can do by level; not to mention, if you want to skip a zone, you really can't without dlc. And I suspect that they released the dlc's with scaling levels to test the reaction to it, and I guess it went well.

The only thing I don't love about this now is that there's still vertical/level-based progression with crafting. I don't think it really needs to exist given the fact that everything will scale... Just make 1 "level" of gear, and have the qualities/glyphs/trait be what makes them different. Might need to re-work the benefits of higher-tier crafting levels though then. And add a new variation for each type of material so that they are all relevant (only minor, but something). But then again, it could simply be as it is if they just want to make it so that you just need to invest into the profession in order to have this gear, to make the economy better and more rewarding for people who have invested. Just somewhat strange that a level-scaled lvl 10 player could potentially have better stats than a lvl 50+ based on their personal crafting abilities. If they did the change for the crafting/gear to all be the same power level though, which of course tons would hate, then they could make up another use for the crafting mats; for example, regional crafting writs as opposed to based on your crafting skill, and they use the materials from those regions; also, a big demand of crafting mats could be used for furniture/upgrades in housing, if they ever add that.

I think the argument that not having a purpose for leveling/doing anything anymore after this is somewhat strange. Maybe this is because I'm not yet capped, but isn't the purpose of the levels and much of the content to give skill (or champion) points, and of course for experiencing story? Skill/champion points will still have use. They may actually have a bit of an issue with a large influx of them for players playing everything, but oh well. But the new goals can be to add new uses for skill points, as the latest dlc's have done. Make new cool mechanics with new skill lines, and just make that the new goals you have for skill points.

FortheloveofKrist · June 2016

[Edit to remove bait]

No, you edited out the punchline. GG, ZoS.

Mojmir · June 2016

definitely not worth the jet lag flying out to tell us that.LOL

AugustoCP · June 2016

This is absolute ***. What is even the purpose of leveling now? If people wanted to pkay with their low level friends, let them make alts, or give them the option to scale DOWN. *** it Zenimax, this is the reason I left TERA, the company running the game clearly has no idea what they're doing, and you're going the same way.

And, no alliance restriction? Are you for real? If people were complaining about being unable to play with their other alliance friends, tell them a) make a character in a differente alliance b)buy an alliance change voucher (Introduce this already!) c) Give them the option to be scaled down and going to the regular alliance territory instead of the instanced Cadwell version.

STOP "FIXING" WHAT ISN'T BROKEN DAMN IT!

I'm just glad I'll be done with Cadwell's Gold before this comes. (I hope)

Oh, and you seem to have plenty of spare time when it comes to doing stupid things. How about you use that time to give us the Breton Hero costume? >.>

Rohamad_Ali · June 2016

No more PvE faction . No more PVE restrictions on grouping . Everyone gets battle leveled to the zone content . No more boarders between AD , DC and EP players in PVE . One big happy family all in the same house , Tamriel .

Cyrodiil remains the same . Faction only counts in Cyrodiil . So after the battles every can cozy next to the fire place an drink a Ale together an call each other names .

Who isn't happy about that ?

C0wrex · June 2016

I'm pretty damn excited for One Tamriel! Makes it easier for me to play with my friends who just started the game

I truly believe that with the release of One Tamriel, the game will be more fun to play as it is! (More social too)

vyndral13preub18_ESO · June 2016

C0wrex wrote: »

I'm pretty damn excited for One Tamriel! Makes it easier for me to play with my friends who just started the game

I truly believe that with the release of One Tamriel, the game will be more fun to play as it is! (More social too)

For some. Some won't even notice. Like me fore example. That is why I am mostly disappointed with it. Another system update. Only one that won't affect me. Woo. I guess.

I would honestly have been happier if they announced they were fixing the group finder.

Abeille · June 2016

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

No more PvE faction . No more PVE restrictions on grouping . Everyone gets battle leveled to the zone content . No more boarders between AD , DC and EP players in PVE . One big happy family all in the same house , Tamriel .

Cyrodiil remains the same . Faction only counts in Cyrodiil . So after the battles every can cozy next to the fire place an drink a Ale together an call each other names .

Who isn't happy about that ?

I'll have to see how people will behave when playing with members of opposing factions on open world before saying if I approve of this change. I approve the level scaling, though. Not so sure about dropping faction restrictions.

Rohamad_Ali · June 2016

Unlikely_Ghostbuster · June 2016

To be as blunt as possible... SWEET.

It always bothered me that, once I finally got to explore the zones of the other two alliances, none of the people *FROM* those alliances were there. Ya, sure, conceptually I "bought" the idea that Cadwell created a whole new dimension in which I could "pretend" I was from those other alliances, and thus, they didn't need to adapt any story lines. Really, nobody expected ZOS to update hundreds and hundreds of quests and story lines for cross-alliance continuity. From an immersion standpoint, this is a step in the right direction. What good is it to travel to Dagerfall, Ebonheart, or Aldmeri territory if you're not interacting with the people from those territories?

And let's face it: from an implementation standpoint, it was *always* silly to host three separate instances of every zone. Why take on that overhead just to segregate players like that?

We should all be considering the benefits and potential advantages of merging the zone instances:
1. No more abandoned zones.
2. More people to group with.
3. More content choices -- go wherever, whenever, with whoever.
4. Cross-alliance guilds already exist, but now can be utilized.
5. Cross-alliance TRIALS.
6. Dueling and PvP Arenas are not just more feasible, they're practically inevitable.

This will also reduce ZOS's hardware overhead, freeing up resources to process more interesting content and features down the line, such as the long-awaited player housing, guild halls, and (dare we hope) Spell Crafting. Who knows? Maybe they'll rededicate 25% of the servers they're not using anymore to take the lag out of Cyrodiil (not that it would be easy). This could even nudge the legal department and development teams to explore the possibility of merging the instances of the PC and console versions. The North American mega-server could become the North American ULTRA-server. The biggest obstacles to cross-platform instance merging that I can foresee: Sony & Microsoft not wanting to play nice (quite likely), and the implementation of VOIP for the PC/Mac. Come on, guys! Why can't we be friends?

My evaluation, "Tamriel One" is a far superior concept to what we've had so far ("Tamriel Three") and a step in the right direction for even better stuff in the future. I've been very critical of some objectively bad development decisions ZOS has made in the past, but I'm very happy about this one. Bravo!

quadraxis666 · June 2016

Seems what this means is goodbye cadwells silver & gold (yay) do any of the other faction quests from the get-go - so faction change confirmed too since this is the thing that will make it possible.

Abeille · June 2016

Also, seems like I won't be able to hold on to my "Spinner's Story" theory regarding Cadwell's Gold and Silver anymore

With it just being regular questing and all. At least I don't have to do it with any of my characters anymore. Kinda peeved for my old characters though, who helped the enemy alliances when it wasn't just "regular questing" but actually some sort of magic. Also, I really liked my "Spinner's Story" theory :c

Jaronking · June 2016

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Moonscythe wrote: »

I watched the stream hoping for something about housing and barber shop and maybe even Vvardenfel. I will reserve judgement on One Tamriel until more details emerge. He at least answered the burning question of many, there are 7 million of us.

I didn't expect much from Bethesda and didn't get it either. With more additions to Fallout 4 and VR on the way it would appear that those of us waiting have a couple of years for TES 7. Bah

I don't think you understood his number right, go to the link provided above. There are 7 million unique accounts created and played on since launch, not there are 7 million players actively playing. You could have only 1 million actively playing and 6 million who left and still make the same statement.

@Toc de Malsvi its going to be weird explaining this to people.Good marketing speech on his part but something I don't think he should have dome he should have said how many concurrent players play the game.Not the 1 and done players.

NewBlacksmurf · June 2016

victorhrpereira wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

victorhrpereira wrote: »

Here hoping that they remove the grouping restriction from Craglorn.

@victorhrpereira
After reading the article, it seems the point of this change is to add more players rather than remove the Craglorn grouping requirements.

Yeah I understand they want more players and also make it easy for us to play with friends, but what I said about craglorn is that I hope they remove those restrictions so people can play the storyline alone or with smaller groups. I have yet to complete it cause no one is interested in doing it and when you find someone, they just want to rush through the dialogue.

Opening us all up to more players I think changes this.
It's going to no longer be a 50+ zone only (I assume)

Jaronking · June 2016

Hey with everyone being Battled leveled they can add the PVP portion of the justice system since pretty much now you can not bank low levels they just be CP 150 players now.

Crimsonwolf666 · June 2016

I am confused as to what the point will be in leveling up if everything everywhere is scaled? I don't think there is enough information regarding this, also I may be reading it wrong, but it seems like there will be zero motive to level up or create new characters (unless you RP). Also, while I get dungeons, trials, etc... for having a wider range of grouping options, I am confused why people need better grouping options for the rest of the zones regular Pve (minus Craglorn, of course)?

Thevampirenight · June 2016

Well, what they are doing I think, is removing the vet area zones from the game, this would help server preformace I do hope they add a thing that unistalls those zones from your game. Because I am sure the data for them is still in the 80 something gbs. But yes this would be a good thing overall I think.

Also I want this and I am happy they are doing it!

vyndral13preub18_ESO · June 2016

Crimsonwolf666 wrote: »

I am confused as to what the point will be in leveling up if everything everywhere is scaled? I don't think there is enough information regarding this, also I may be reading it wrong, but it seems like there will be zero motive to level up or create new characters (unless you RP). Also, while I get dungeons, trials, etc... for having a wider range of grouping options, I am confused why people need better grouping options for the rest of the zones regular Pve (minus Craglorn, of course)?

It gets even better when you consider that right now low levels scale with better stats then max characters. So there may actually be a reason to not level. So leveling will become doubly confusing!

Nifty2g · June 2016

all they are doing is effectively removing 1-50 and making it all based around champion points, which i believe would be their long term goal. I 100% agree with it

Epona222 · June 2016

JarlUlfric wrote: »

Sounds like a bad idea to me to be honest. People at the end game aren't getting anything from this, so I'm not really pleased at all. They need to get the other Trials up to scale and get the rest of the veteran instances done as well. I really hope this is part of their One Tamriel plan.

Absolutely agree - most of my time spent in game is questing on multiple characters, and afaic it doesn't need this change as a priority. It's nice to have a more open-world feel, sure. But I think allowing people to travel to any zone after level 50 and removal of vet ranks did that already to an extent. I would rather see every dungeon given a veteran version, and trials and Craglorn scaled as a higher priority.

Jaronking · June 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

all they are doing is effectively removing 1-50 and making it all based around champion points, which i believe would be their long term goal. I 100% agree with it

Wait so @Nifty2g it seems like everyone will just be CP 150 when you start the game.If everyone battled level what the point of that?Also wouldn't that make people want to use the grouping tool less since you can now be in a group with a level one during Vet Dungeons?