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magnusthorek wrote: »

ausmack2014 wrote: »

Was it really necessary, in this age of excess and graphic violence online, to add this disturbing level of cutaway?

Too much violence? This? You probably didn't play Skyrim with gore mods then.

That was really brutal and I really hope to have that in ESO. Blood flowing from victim's necks, splattering all over the ground and screen, close to perfect clipping between the weapon and the body, realistic screams...

O you just turned me on

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Hehe all I can say OP is dont ever play Skryim with the Dance of Death mod installed,...

Or Deadly Mutilation

Maybe they could add an option where you sneak up and smother people in there sleep, the pillow of woe.

Seriously though, the Dark Brotherhood are assassins, they kill people and this is probably the first time in ESO that we have seen any consequence of our actions, you stab someone they bleed.

I mean, we hurl fireballs, stab, slash and chop our way through a main quest line, numerous side quests, factions and even kill other players in Cyrodiil without once spilling a drop of blood.

So for me ESO is finally earning its 18 rating.

Digiman wrote: »

If your not comfortable in joining a guild that is basically a murder cult for hire... well I think you should be asking for another game because that's the elderscrolls series has always been about...

Let's not exaggerate. That is not what TES is all about, and in fact this is the first TES where we do not have the option to destroy the DB instead of joining them (though in Oblivion you kinda do both lol). We only have the option to join or to not join.

When you assassinate someone with the Blade of Woe, your cursor aims to like 95% of the time, directly on the npc. Animation starts, hit E and R, to quickloot. The moment you hit E for the loot window, animation ends, cut off completely. You only see that NPC sleeping the eternal sleep on the floor infront of you, no blood nothing.

If that doesn't do it for you, I suggest closing the eyes before hitting X.

As for the discussion between 'clean cut' and 'hey let's mutilate this guy to death', The singleplayer games have over and over again shown that there are a VAST difference of personalities in the Dark Brotherhood, favoring this and that style over the other. There are in fact multiple animations for the Blade of Woe in ESO. Some cleaner, some the exact opposite of it, at least by what I've seen from my character.

And the blunt truth is, it's an Elder Scrolls game, like someone else has said it before.

The Elder Scrolls is a fictional universe that is not quite correct depicted by the visual context the games offer. If you read up some lore, books etc in the games, you'll see very quickly that Tamriel is far from funny or nice like the smiling potato faces in TES4: Oblivion in particular, tried to tell us. ESO just took a step into the direction of depicting things more accurately there with the Dark Brotherhood.


I like my games brutal and there is some lore in TES that made even me blink. However, I wouldn't want it any other way.

Just my 2 cents.

genuinely interesting. I'm actually really loving those cutaways (and as someone else said, you can skip it entirely by just pressing E to loot the body--I do it sometimes when I'm impatient). I thought it was an exciting thing to add, after the Thieves Guild had left me feeling somewhat underwhelmed. to each their own, eh? I do hope they don't take away those cutaways/gruesome kills.

Personally, I'm stoked with the addition of kill animations with blood. Props to ZoS for owning that Mature rating and going with it.

Cherryblossom wrote: »

ausmack2014 wrote: »

I'm probably going to be a voice in the wilderness here, but I have to say that I find certain aspects of Dark Brotherhood to be quite disturbing.

The whole 'run around and knife people in the back' thing in particular. While I've had no issue in the past with sneaking and stealing (which is quite fun) I find the graphics for the DB assassinations to be very confronting. Was it really necessary, in this age of excess and graphic violence online, to add this disturbing level of cutaway?

As I say, I'll probably be in the minority with this opinion, but it is getting to the stage for me that I probably won't continue with the DB guild line because of this. I just wish there was an option to not have these cutaways show.

I don't get it.

You're playing a game where you predominately level by killing, you now have a crisis of conscience when you see the act of stabbing someone in the back!

Obviously, I'm quite glad you find the idea of stabbing people in the back disturbing, however I'm slightly concerned that you find beating them to death with weapons or fire quite satisfying currently! You also don't have any issue stealing!

So we can surmise from this, that you don't object on Moral grounds, just graphical!

Heaven forbid a person is forced to SEE the result of their actions... that would mean accepting some sort of... wait for it... responsibility.

I agree with this post in that the last 2 DLC's seem bent on turning the game into Assassin's Creed. I understand this is a lucrative market, but you have a lot of players who are interested in a more adventure-style genre who have not seen a DLC playing to their interests in the last 2. Just because a game has a particular rating doesn't mean it SHOULD exploit that, either.

I never really thought about the graphic clips of the Blade of Woe. Except it reminded me of the Fatalities in AoC (Age of Conan): but in AoC every weapon and offensive spell had its own set of Fatalities.

Sorry, can't sympathize with you. It's a 18+ rated game. If anything it's nice to finally see some mature themes

Nemeliom wrote: »

You killed thousands of people, animals, you stole, lied, betray, and you worry about an animation? o.0

Animations that are disturbing are disturbing for a reason. You can run around and kill stuff in the game and never really give it a thought but animations can be designed to trigger impact and leave you FEELING badly or awesome. I don't think anyone really wants to play a game that leaves them feeling badly. This was why a lot of ME3 fans were rather upset at the ending of the series and why a fair portion of people found fallout 4 unpleasant.

There should be a way to shut it off. People generally don't play games to feel bad. If the animation is disturbing for some or leaves them feeling badly then they do have a point. Who wants to do something that makes you feel badly or triggers bad feelings? Only people who are not very bright or perhaps some that love that kind of drama.

NateAssassin wrote: »

DB DLC turned me into a murderer, I wipe out every single NPC I hate now and get to see fancy kill cams of me butchering them.

I wonder if Nicolene and her Captain can be targeted, I don't like either of them.