Dark Brotherhood - somewhat disturbing

Egonieser · June 2016

I assume OP never played Skyrim where executions of this kind, and even more graphic, also including decapitation etc were part of your regular attack rotation? Here you have the option to use the blade or not - there it happened automatically and not just on humans, but animals too.

Taruha · June 2016

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Well, if you scroll the page down, you'll see this:

And your char is already a cold-blooded murderer, if he/she joined DB. Graphics or lack of them dont change much.

This. Also if you've got a problem with the blade of Woe, seen a vampire or werewolf feed? I can assure you there is tons of blood. Dark Brotherhood is meant to be dark and unpleasant. Don't like that kind of thing? Don't play the Dark Brotherhood

Lokryn · June 2016

I absolutely love it. More blood and gore the better. This a Mature rated game after all.

Sacadon · June 2016

It's not for everyone which is ok. It's supposed to be "Dark" Brotherhood, not Fluffy Kittens Brotherhood.

More dark the better... I think ZOS barely pulled it off actually. I sincerely respect your perspective on it though.

Tierbook · June 2016

I'm glad for the change honestly, feels more like a medieval fantasy rather than just fantasy. King Kurog killing that one clan chief was the same feeling of "Yea, this is Elder Scrolls" honestly.

j3crow · June 2016

I'm ok with the depictions of the assasinations. It fits the context, and like others have said, there have been games with a lot worse.

But I respect the OPs view. Especially since you're asked at times to specifically use the BoW. I think the wise choice would have been to make the animation optional. That way, people have choices to fit their preferences. Its a game, after all. There is nothing wrong with accomidating choice where feasible when people are paying customers

Rohamad_Ali · June 2016

You prefer chloroform and towel ? Dead is dead no matter the journey .

daswahnsinn · June 2016

I've seen worse on social media and most the time when I use Google image search. I understand your view point, but stealing and killing have been apart of TES since I can remember. Yes, it's a little more up close and personal but it is the Dark Brotherhood we're talking about. Also, I remember a time earlier in the game, the more kills you got in PVP without dying the bloodier your armor got and other could see that. I'd like to see that return one day.

ThePonzzz · June 2016

I think the graphics are over the top. I enjoy them, but I was like, "whoa" the first few times. SHould be a way to disable the animation for the Blade of Woe.

josefcifkaeb17_ESO · June 2016

I love Blade of Woe, it really makes the game stand out in the crowd and it also gives the game some real feelings to it.
Though next time, I would like to see a DLC where we are a hero again, we've been forced to be the bad guys by the two latest DLC's a bit too much. When releasing a dark DLC we probably need a light one to keep balance, keep it dark for too long and some people might wander off... The point of TES games is having a choice, we don't have that currently, we're basically forced to be the bad guys if we wan't to enjoy the new content. (I understand it's not easy giving us this choice)

And btw. how is this disturbing in a world where we have games like Mortal Kombat X? A little blood and a clunky animation don't really disturb me, they actually make me smile a lot, especially when stabbing air...

Toxic_Hemlock · June 2016

In the words of Arlo Guthrie from his infamous song Alice's Restaurant:

"And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
Wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
Guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill
KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
He started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
Yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me
Sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

So in other words, I like the gore; it fits the theme!

Valkas · June 2016

Okay. After seeing this thread I will completely disregard every complaint thread ever posted on these forums.

kalimar44 · June 2016

Dark brotherhood are a Satanic cult. I want the ability to take them out not work for these pos.

Volkodav · June 2016

ausmack2014 wrote: »

I'm probably going to be a voice in the wilderness here, but I have to say that I find certain aspects of Dark Brotherhood to be quite disturbing.

The whole 'run around and knife people in the back' thing in particular. While I've had no issue in the past with sneaking and stealing (which is quite fun) I find the graphics for the DB assassinations to be very confronting. Was it really necessary, in this age of excess and graphic violence online, to add this disturbing level of cutaway?

As I say, I'll probably be in the minority with this opinion, but it is getting to the stage for me that I probably won't continue with the DB guild line because of this. I just wish there was an option to not have these cutaways show.

It's part of TES lore.The Morag Tong in Morrowind would attempt to assassinate you near the first of the game.
The cutaways arent that disturbing.A bit graphic,yes,but pretty well done,in my opinion.You watch movies,right? They can be far more disturbing to watch.
Skyrim was worse than ESO in violence.

Volkodav · June 2016

AmberLaTerra wrote: »

I think their should be more of these animations in the main game myself, I mean we are using brutal weapons in swords, maces, daggers, and bows the sheer lack of blood and gore in the main game is more unrealistic and offensive to the idea of true immersion into the game world.

Let's face it combat with the weapons in this game in real history was a bloody and gory business, it was not clean and bloodless. The only weapons that come close to their real effects are staffs or enchanted ones what will occasionally leave a kill burnt to a pile of ash or froze in a pillar of ice.

Give us more realistic effects of our weapons to make the immersion more real.

How can enchanted staves show their "real" effects when there were never real magical staves in real life?
I agree with your comment,but this sentence just puzzled me:
"The only weapons that come close to their real effects are staffs or enchanted ones what will occasionally leave a kill burnt to a pile of ash or froze in a pillar of ice."

j3crow · June 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

AmberLaTerra wrote: »

I think their should be more of these animations in the main game myself, I mean we are using brutal weapons in swords, maces, daggers, and bows the sheer lack of blood and gore in the main game is more unrealistic and offensive to the idea of true immersion into the game world.

Let's face it combat with the weapons in this game in real history was a bloody and gory business, it was not clean and bloodless. The only weapons that come close to their real effects are staffs or enchanted ones what will occasionally leave a kill burnt to a pile of ash or froze in a pillar of ice.

Give us more realistic effects of our weapons to make the immersion more real.

How c an enchanted staves show their "real" effects when there were never real magical staves in real life?
I agree with your comment,but this sentence just puzzled me:
"The only weapons that come close to their real effects are staffs or enchanted ones what will occasionally leave a kill burnt to a pile of ash or froze in a pillar of ice."

How do you know that enchanted staves don't leave those kind of after effects in real life? Clearly, you don't know where to shop...

vyndral13preub18_ESO · June 2016

My only wish is that I could pick the animations I want to run. I know this will never happen, since it would involve some sort of options or customization, something Zos doesn't really seem to care all that much about. But many of the animations I either find stupid or I don't think they fit my character.

I'm a cold blooded assassin, I'm not going to tap you on the shoulder to say hi first. How dumb is that? Second I'm a cold blooded assassin, interested in getting away quietly. I'm not going to stab you 5 times when you were clearly dead on the first, just so I can take out some excess anger I guess.

ausmack2014 · June 2016

AmberLaTerra wrote: »

I think their should be more of these animations in the main game myself, I mean we are using brutal weapons in swords, maces, daggers, and bows the sheer lack of blood and gore in the main game is more unrealistic and offensive to the idea of true immersion into the game world.

Let's face it combat with the weapons in this game in real history was a bloody and gory business, it was not clean and bloodless. The only weapons that come close to their real effects are staffs or enchanted ones what will occasionally leave a kill burnt to a pile of ash or froze in a pillar of ice.

Give us more realistic effects of our weapons to make the immersion more real.

See, I disagree there. I play these games for a bit of fun and escapism. I don't play them to participate in bloody, gory realism. I could go outside and run over a baby rabbit if I wanted realism. This is a GAME, not 'real history'.

I understand I don't have to use the Blade, I can just use my normal spells and so on. I just worry at the hyped up level of graphic violence appearing in games now when it isn't really all that necessary for the enjoyment of the game.

Elvent · June 2016

SG_Celerrimus wrote: »

I have to just straight up disagree with you. I love the animations for the assassinations, and I think they fit in well and feel at home in this game. Skyrim had animations very similar. Also, this game is rated 'M', so I see no issue with it.

Agreed, I see nothing wrong with it especially that it's a video game. It seems the complaint is not that they're killed but how they were killed...so silly lol

Burning people alive, stabbing somebody with daggers, slamming an axe into somebody is okay. But a slit the throat animation is crossing the line....lol

ConeOfSilence · June 2016

Been gaming since '81 played plenty of games that are way way more graphic and disturbing. Don't play a DLC that is based on murder if you are easily disturbed by the graphics.

Volkodav · June 2016

j3crow wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

AmberLaTerra wrote: »

I think their should be more of these animations in the main game myself, I mean we are using brutal weapons in swords, maces, daggers, and bows the sheer lack of blood and gore in the main game is more unrealistic and offensive to the idea of true immersion into the game world.

Let's face it combat with the weapons in this game in real history was a bloody and gory business, it was not clean and bloodless. The only weapons that come close to their real effects are staffs or enchanted ones what will occasionally leave a kill burnt to a pile of ash or froze in a pillar of ice.

Give us more realistic effects of our weapons to make the immersion more real.

How c an enchanted staves show their "real" effects when there were never real magical staves in real life?
I agree with your comment,but this sentence just puzzled me:
"The only weapons that come close to their real effects are staffs or enchanted ones what will occasionally leave a kill burnt to a pile of ash or froze in a pillar of ice."

How do you know that enchanted staves don't leave those kind of after effects in real life? Clearly, you don't know where to shop...

Sorry,I have never even found that enchanted items exist in the real world,..except for the Harry Potter Themed part of Disney World.
And no,I didnt go there,but I've known others who have.
If enchanted items do exist,please,tell me "where to shop"!

catsgomeow · June 2016

I can understand some people finding the animations some what disturbing, but as far as im concerned it fits the theme and the game rating so i have no issues with it, what i do have issues with is when something is complained about, even if it is appropriate to theme and rating, to the point where the devs dumb it down or remove things completely just to pander to the complainers. Now i know thats not the OP's intention here but i have seen it happen and i dont want to continue seeing it happen.

Reverb · June 2016

Is this your first TES game?

phobossion · June 2016

For me, I "love" how the devs were saying during the Q/A that everyone you kill in DB is a "bad" person, so your actions are not in contradiction with you being the hero of Tamriel. Yet you start the quest by killing an innocent(!) person

Volkodav · June 2016

Ya know,why do people buy and play games rated Mature when they KNOW it's going to be a rough game,with gore,violence,and more,..then get bothered about the blood and killing.Especially when it has warnings when you go to buy it.

Deheart · June 2016

God I feel old, I remember when Mortal Kombat the very first game came out, oh god the outrage! Showing blood in a fighting game!

j3crow · June 2016

Deheart wrote: »

God I feel old, I remember when Mortal Kombat the very first game came out, oh god the outrage! Showing blood in a fighting game!

"Finish Him"! Flawless Victory...

dodgehopper_ESO · June 2016

The animations actually make me think of what the original Assassins would do. The blade is even curved. I find the blade of woe interesting as well as repulsive. I think it is meant to be. It has an artfulness and some of the animations are even playful, like the assassin is just having fun with it. In short, yes it is disturbing but also well done. I can also see how its not for everyone.

Mettaricana · June 2016

ausmack2014 wrote: »

I'm probably going to be a voice in the wilderness here, but I have to say that I find certain aspects of Dark Brotherhood to be quite disturbing.

The whole 'run around and knife people in the back' thing in particular. While I've had no issue in the past with sneaking and stealing (which is quite fun) I find the graphics for the DB assassinations to be very confronting. Was it really necessary, in this age of excess and graphic violence online, to add this disturbing level of cutaway?

As I say, I'll probably be in the minority with this opinion, but it is getting to the stage for me that I probably won't continue with the DB guild line because of this. I just wish there was an option to not have these cutaways show.

In all fairness the game is for 18+ and until now the game has been borderline hello kitty until now not even having 1/10th the gore of skyrim...

Conquistador · June 2016

It's Rated M. Go play WoW.