MichYodias wrote: »ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »But what is the damage of the proc doing? The heal is based on damage done ("stealing life"), but the heal itself is buffed by it's own bonus to healing received. Identifying how much damage it is doing will help isolate the potential problem: did the damage or heal get bugged (eg they accidentally exempted the entire proc from the Battle Spirit debuff, rather than only the heal), or is the heal simply being buffed to high levels by multiple sources.On the PTS Malubeth was healing me for 7k-11k per tick. Definitely bugged.
Mine is doing about 300-400 damage a tick. I have no idea how he is getting healed for that much. The only reason I use malubeth at all is for the disease counter.
I think that after a fight you go and look at the healing beakdown in ftc from scourge harvester, it includes all the incoming heals while malubeth was proccd. So say i get hit by a BoL while its proccd its going to show me getting a 15k heal tick in my breakdown. Or say im sapping while its procced its going to show all thise heals as ticks of malebeth and people look after a fight and theyre like danggg son my Malubeth did 100k heals when in reality that was all of the incoming heals u got while u had the buff. Even if you pop a pot while its active your going to see that huge heal under scourge harvester. So think of Malubeth's ftc breakdown as a filter for all heals while it was active.
On the PTS Malubeth was healing me for 7k-11k per tick. Definitely bugged.
Malubeth has always been ridiculously strong. Just now loads of people have started to notice it seems.
Malubeth has always been ridiculously strong. Just now loads of people have started to notice it seems.
MichYodias wrote: »On the PTS Malubeth was healing me for 7k-11k per tick. Definitely bugged.
That was likely your self honor of the deads showing up under scourge harvester. Even say you pop devouring swarm with a fatty stack and malubeth proccd, those devouring heals will show up in scourge harvester ftc and itll show a bunch of ticks and and a lot of heals but in reality it was devouring heals + 30%
Joy_Division wrote: »Just because a few people started actually wearing it and think it is a FOTM doesn't mean it is OP.
Heal debuffs are common, the beam only stays active if actual target is and remains within 10 meters, and it's not like Engine Guardian and Valkyn and Bloodspawn are providing marginal combat effectiveness.
No wonder so many sets are trash. At the hint of them being useful, people are proclaiming them to be OP
Sallington wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Just because a few people started actually wearing it and think it is a FOTM doesn't mean it is OP.
Heal debuffs are common, the beam only stays active if actual target is and remains within 10 meters, and it's not like Engine Guardian and Valkyn and Bloodspawn are providing marginal combat effectiveness.
No wonder so many sets are trash. At the hint of them being useful, people are proclaiming them to be OP
Yea, you see it procc, spend stamina or whatever you need to to break the procc, not only have you spent resources doing so, but your target is most likely already full health regardless, then, not 10 seconds later it proccs again.
Sounds like it's strong against melee and useless against ranged.
Malubeth+7x Impen+Major Mending+Transmutation= godmode.
10/10 balanced
PainfulFAFA wrote: »I heard Battle Spirit is not applying to Malubeth set.
Day 1 pvp and immediately could tell something was off with that set.
edit: now im hearing its supposed to ignore battle spirit (its intended). If so, there is something obviously wrong with it lol. I am not supposed to be tanking 10 ppl in medium armor....
PainfulFAFA wrote: »I heard Battle Spirit is not applying to Malubeth set.
Day 1 pvp and immediately could tell something was off with that set.
edit: now im hearing its supposed to ignore battle spirit (its intended). If so, there is something obviously wrong with it lol. I am not supposed to be tanking 10 ppl in medium armor....
People tank in light armor with this broken set.
PainfulFAFA wrote: »I heard Battle Spirit is not applying to Malubeth set.
Day 1 pvp and immediately could tell something was off with that set.
edit: now im hearing its supposed to ignore battle spirit (its intended). If so, there is something obviously wrong with it lol. I am not supposed to be tanking 10 ppl in medium armor....
People tank in light armor with this broken set.
Another nerf thread from you?
PainfulFAFA wrote: »I heard Battle Spirit is not applying to Malubeth set.
Day 1 pvp and immediately could tell something was off with that set.
edit: now im hearing its supposed to ignore battle spirit (its intended). If so, there is something obviously wrong with it lol. I am not supposed to be tanking 10 ppl in medium armor....
People tank in light armor with this broken set.
PainfulFAFA wrote: »PainfulFAFA wrote: »I heard Battle Spirit is not applying to Malubeth set.
Day 1 pvp and immediately could tell something was off with that set.
edit: now im hearing its supposed to ignore battle spirit (its intended). If so, there is something obviously wrong with it lol. I am not supposed to be tanking 10 ppl in medium armor....
People tank in light armor with this broken set.
lol and i wasnt even trying too
Now try using malubeth + fasallas + anything else... its just dumb af.
80% of people use it now. I guess this patch was designed as place under the sun for Malubeth.
Plz make Engine robot uninterruptable with next patch
PainfulFAFA wrote: »PainfulFAFA wrote: »I heard Battle Spirit is not applying to Malubeth set.
Day 1 pvp and immediately could tell something was off with that set.
edit: now im hearing its supposed to ignore battle spirit (its intended). If so, there is something obviously wrong with it lol. I am not supposed to be tanking 10 ppl in medium armor....
People tank in light armor with this broken set.
lol and i wasnt even trying too
Now try using malubeth + fasallas + anything else... its just dumb af.
Try killing a templar in light armor using 5 transmutasion with malubeth, it shouldnt be possible, but it is.
PainfulFAFA wrote: »PainfulFAFA wrote: »I heard Battle Spirit is not applying to Malubeth set.
Day 1 pvp and immediately could tell something was off with that set.
edit: now im hearing its supposed to ignore battle spirit (its intended). If so, there is something obviously wrong with it lol. I am not supposed to be tanking 10 ppl in medium armor....
People tank in light armor with this broken set.
lol and i wasnt even trying too
Now try using malubeth + fasallas + anything else... its just dumb af.
Try killing a templar in light armor using 5 transmutasion with malubeth, it shouldnt be possible, but it is.
This setup has always been used. Nothing has changed, except that Monster Sets are now available for AP once a week. Now that sets are easier to get, you will see more and more people using them. It isn't even the best setup for a Magicka Templar, though it is strong.
As for being constructive, I get tired of the constant whine threads and calling for unnecessary nerfs. Right now, all classes have access to equally powerful pvp setups. Find a strong combination that works for you. If you think it's so strong, then use it.
PainfulFAFA wrote: »PainfulFAFA wrote: »I heard Battle Spirit is not applying to Malubeth set.
Day 1 pvp and immediately could tell something was off with that set.
edit: now im hearing its supposed to ignore battle spirit (its intended). If so, there is something obviously wrong with it lol. I am not supposed to be tanking 10 ppl in medium armor....
People tank in light armor with this broken set.
lol and i wasnt even trying too
Now try using malubeth + fasallas + anything else... its just dumb af.
Try killing a templar in light armor using 5 transmutasion with malubeth, it shouldnt be possible, but it is.
This setup has always been used. Nothing has changed, except that Monster Sets are now available for AP once a week. Now that sets are easier to get, you will see more and more people using them. It isn't even the best setup for a Magicka Templar, though it is strong.
As for being constructive, I get tired of the constant whine threads and calling for unnecessary nerfs. Right now, all classes have access to equally powerful pvp setups. Find a strong combination that works for you. If you think it's so strong, then use it.
Well, what you see as "whine" others see as "unbalanced or OP" The amount of threads and posts on forum about this set in particular should be evidence enough that it needs looked at.
ninjaguyman wrote: »Quick question, has anything actually changed about malubeth this patch? I've almost always used malubeth on my nb tank before until around thieves guild launched, but it seemed largely unpopular. but this patch malubeth tanks are popping up everywhere in pvp it seems...
PainfulFAFA wrote: »PainfulFAFA wrote: »I heard Battle Spirit is not applying to Malubeth set.
Day 1 pvp and immediately could tell something was off with that set.
edit: now im hearing its supposed to ignore battle spirit (its intended). If so, there is something obviously wrong with it lol. I am not supposed to be tanking 10 ppl in medium armor....
People tank in light armor with this broken set.
lol and i wasnt even trying too
Now try using malubeth + fasallas + anything else... its just dumb af.
Try killing a templar in light armor using 5 transmutasion with malubeth, it shouldnt be possible, but it is.
PainfulFAFA wrote: »PainfulFAFA wrote: »I heard Battle Spirit is not applying to Malubeth set.
Day 1 pvp and immediately could tell something was off with that set.
edit: now im hearing its supposed to ignore battle spirit (its intended). If so, there is something obviously wrong with it lol. I am not supposed to be tanking 10 ppl in medium armor....
People tank in light armor with this broken set.
lol and i wasnt even trying too
Now try using malubeth + fasallas + anything else... its just dumb af.
Try killing a templar in light armor using 5 transmutasion with malubeth, it shouldnt be possible, but it is.
This setup has always been used. Nothing has changed, except that Monster Sets are now available for AP once a week. Now that sets are easier to get, you will see more and more people using them. It isn't even the best setup for a Magicka Templar, though it is strong.
As for being constructive, I get tired of the constant whine threads and calling for unnecessary nerfs. Right now, all classes have access to equally powerful pvp setups. Find a strong combination that works for you. If you think it's so strong, then use it.
PainfulFAFA wrote: »PainfulFAFA wrote: »I heard Battle Spirit is not applying to Malubeth set.
Day 1 pvp and immediately could tell something was off with that set.
edit: now im hearing its supposed to ignore battle spirit (its intended). If so, there is something obviously wrong with it lol. I am not supposed to be tanking 10 ppl in medium armor....
People tank in light armor with this broken set.
lol and i wasnt even trying too
Now try using malubeth + fasallas + anything else... its just dumb af.
Try killing a templar in light armor using 5 transmutasion with malubeth, it shouldnt be possible, but it is.
This setup has always been used. Nothing has changed, except that Monster Sets are now available for AP once a week. Now that sets are easier to get, you will see more and more people using them. It isn't even the best setup for a Magicka Templar, though it is strong.
As for being constructive, I get tired of the constant whine threads and calling for unnecessary nerfs. Right now, all classes have access to equally powerful pvp setups. Find a strong combination that works for you. If you think it's so strong, then use it.
Well, what you see as "whine" others see as "unbalanced or OP" The amount of threads and posts on forum about this set in particular should be evidence enough that it needs looked at.
I've only seen two. And one is this one. Are there more? And you are right about one thing, when someone gets beat, they see it as "unbalanced or OP".
PainfulFAFA wrote: »
Are you sure nothing was changed.
PainfulFAFA wrote: »PainfulFAFA wrote: »I heard Battle Spirit is not applying to Malubeth set.
Day 1 pvp and immediately could tell something was off with that set.
edit: now im hearing its supposed to ignore battle spirit (its intended). If so, there is something obviously wrong with it lol. I am not supposed to be tanking 10 ppl in medium armor....
People tank in light armor with this broken set.
lol and i wasnt even trying too
Now try using malubeth + fasallas + anything else... its just dumb af.
Try killing a templar in light armor using 5 transmutasion with malubeth, it shouldnt be possible, but it is.
This setup has always been used. Nothing has changed, except that Monster Sets are now available for AP once a week. Now that sets are easier to get, you will see more and more people using them. It isn't even the best setup for a Magicka Templar, though it is strong.
As for being constructive, I get tired of the constant whine threads and calling for unnecessary nerfs. Right now, all classes have access to equally powerful pvp setups. Find a strong combination that works for you. If you think it's so strong, then use it.
Well, what you see as "whine" others see as "unbalanced or OP" The amount of threads and posts on forum about this set in particular should be evidence enough that it needs looked at.
I've only seen two. And one is this one. Are there more? And you are right about one thing, when someone gets beat, they see it as "unbalanced or OP".
Somewhat troll post thinking someone was owned in a fight and they posted QQ thread about it on forum.
No, what initially made me curious about his set was seeing how first a dk was tanking 3 people with this set even while he was cced his hp was still barely moving because this purple beam was almost permanently proccin on someone. The later I saw a templar do the same vs many more ppl, yea they all died in the end, but took way, way too long. Then the rest of the day and the following days you now see 50%+ of the people you fight are using this set and they survive way too easily just because of this set coupled with major mending specificly. This is just my opinion, and many others it seems, but you are free to disagree, constructively.