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Can we get a class change since sorcs are dead next patch?
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO
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Sorcs have literally nothing left to be good at that other classes can't do better so can you guys at zenimax just put the class out of it's misery and delete it and let sorc players choose another class?
R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
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RebornV3x✭✭✭✭✭
✭I really wish but I guess that's why there getting rid of Vet ranks got a vet 6 templar and a v1 DK and 501 Cp so I'm good to go sucks that I have to grind Undaunted, skyshards, mage books and fighters guild etc... to get those passives tho plus my Sorc is my main wonder if I should just stop playing instead.Xbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.4 -
FriedEggSandwich✭✭✭✭✭
✭Zos destroy sorcs just as overwatch gets released, it's a sign. Tracer here I come.PC | EU7 -
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✭✭Don't worry, the meta will switch back over from stam to magic in about 3 to 4 months."We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."6 -
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✭✭✭I got lvl 50+ of the three classes this game has laying around though the death of sorc I already unsubbed.1 -
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✭When DB is released it will be really easy to level up another class. Unfortunately, you will have to spend an absolute S*** TON of time level undaunted and alliance.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This kind of thing happens. Last patch, it was with Templars. It is common in MMOs, and the reason why I always make characters of every class.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
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✭starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »Don't worry, the meta will switch back over from stam to magic in about 3 to 4 months.
But sorcerers will still suck...9 -
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✭This kind of thing happens. Last patch, it was with Templars. It is common in MMOs, and the reason why I always make characters of every class.
Unfortunately this has happened to sorcerers the past 4 large patches. It is no longer a 'it is common in MMO' situation, it is a 'ZOS has no clue what to do about sorcerers' situation.4 -
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✭For the pve endgame content, sorc was the weakest everywhere except for Maelstrom Arena. Now, they are the weakest everywhere.
For pvp, every sorc buils has been nerfed to the ground except the "annoying" shieldstacker sorc. Every good sorc I know won't be nerfed by this maj for their pvp build, or they will quickly adapt.
But the rest of the game is dead for us.2 -
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✭Roymachine wrote: »So dramatic. The good sorcs who stick with it will learn to adapt and move on.
The good sorcs have been sticking with the class and have watched its 2 years long agonizing march to death. It is finally here, it is called the Dark Brotherhood.6 -
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I guess that why shieldstacking sorcs are so OP that were forced to play without any shields in EU tournament.Roymachine wrote: »So dramatic. The good sorcs who stick with it will learn to adapt and move on.
The good sorcs have been sticking with the class and have watched its 2 years long agonizing march to death. It is finally here, it is called the Dark Brotherhood.2 -
imenace✭✭✭sorc is so *** boring.. why are they making you have to shield stack? why not make other build viable? WHY REMOVE THE DUAL WIELD BUILD.. WHY ZENIMAX WHY0 -
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And the strength of their shield stacking has been buffed with the next update too
I guess that why shieldstacking sorcs are so OP that were forced to play without any shields in EU tournament.Roymachine wrote: »So dramatic. The good sorcs who stick with it will learn to adapt and move on.
The good sorcs have been sticking with the class and have watched its 2 years long agonizing march to death. It is finally here, it is called the Dark Brotherhood.
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I guess that why shield stacking sorcs are so OP that were forced to play without any shields in EU tournament.Roymachine wrote: »So dramatic. The good sorcs who stick with it will learn to adapt and move on.
The good sorcs have been sticking with the class and have watched its 2 years long agonizing march to death. It is finally here, it is called the Dark Brotherhood.
no offence but sounds like they didn't know their stuff if a shield stacking sorc was an issue.PLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
EU - [Arch Mage Dave] Altmer Sorcerer
Fight back at the crates and boxes, together we can change things.1 -
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I guess that why shieldstacking sorcs are so OP that were forced to play without any shields in EU tournament.Roymachine wrote: »So dramatic. The good sorcs who stick with it will learn to adapt and move on.
The good sorcs have been sticking with the class and have watched its 2 years long agonizing march to death. It is finally here, it is called the Dark Brotherhood.
Again, you are talking about PvP, not PvE. That is only half of the game, half of the story and thus a very narrow vision.
Yes, sorcerers have good burst and they had good survivability with their shields in PvP, but in PvE we have worst DPS registered, near to no utility for a raid, we can't heal efficiently and we can't tank nearly as well as other classes. That is the sorcerer reality, not some colored version of a competition in Europe which happened before all this nerfs hit this already agonizing class.3 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
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I guess that why shield stacking sorcs are so OP that were forced to play without any shields in EU tournament.Roymachine wrote: »So dramatic. The good sorcs who stick with it will learn to adapt and move on.
The good sorcs have been sticking with the class and have watched its 2 years long agonizing march to death. It is finally here, it is called the Dark Brotherhood.
no offence but sounds like they didn't know their stuff if a shield stacking sorc was an issue.
If this really happened, which I am not sure it did, it was certainly several months ago before competent people leaned to play against it.0 -
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✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have literally nothing left to be good at that other classes can't do better so can you guys at zenimax just put the class out of it's misery and delete it and let sorc players choose another class?
For those of us who play sorcs or multiple classes, please do no delete the sorc class. I look forward to the new versions and my first added slot will be stam sorc.
As for class change... it already exists as delete char. I hsve done so twice with veteran chars. Worked both times.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
YFMV Your Fun May Vary.
First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
"The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."1 -
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✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have literally nothing left to be good at that other classes can't do better so can you guys at zenimax just put the class out of it's misery and delete it and let sorc players choose another class?
For those of us who play sorcs or multiple classes, please do no delete the sorc class. I look forward to the new versions and my first added slot will be stam sorc.
As for class change... it already exists as delete char. I hsve done so twice with veteran chars. Worked both times.
If you play all classes then you have no reason to use Sorc as the 3 others can do all the things a Sorcerer could do...but better.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake2 -
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✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have literally nothing left to be good at that other classes can't do better so can you guys at zenimax just put the class out of it's misery and delete it and let sorc players choose another class?
For those of us who play sorcs or multiple classes, please do no delete the sorc class. I look forward to the new versions and my first added slot will be stam sorc.
As for class change... it already exists as delete char. I hsve done so twice with veteran chars. Worked both times.
You really are an *** aren't you?
Seriously, I try taking your posts seriously and answer to them but every onw and then you spurt some stupid nonsense like this! Some people don't have all day to level up 8 characters and have all play *** styles available for when ZENIMAX decides to screw them up the ass like they have been doing with sorcerers!
Seriously mate, shut up, stop being so *** self centered, self serving, ***.
And yes, I am very aware this post will get removed soon by a Mod, the only presence Zenimax ever shows on their forums. Go right ahead Mod, delete this post, but this *** need to hear this.5 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have literally nothing left to be good at that other classes can't do better so can you guys at zenimax just put the class out of it's misery and delete it and let sorc players choose another class?
For those of us who play sorcs or multiple classes, please do no delete the sorc class. I look forward to the new versions and my first added slot will be stam sorc.
As for class change... it already exists as delete char. I hsve done so twice with veteran chars. Worked both times.
You really are an *** aren't you?
Seriously, I try taking your posts seriously and answer to them but every onw and then you spurt some stupid nonsense like this! Some people don't have all day to level up 8 characters and have all play *** styles available for when ZENIMAX decides to screw them up the ass like they have been doing with sorcerers!
Seriously mate, shut up, stop being so *** self centered, self serving, ***.
And yes, I am very aware this post will get removed soon by a Mod, the only presence Zenimax ever shows on their forums. Go right ahead Mod, delete this post, but this *** need to hear this.
That guy loves to live in his little bubble though and just think everything is fine while the class as a whole falls apart around him but he still denies it, lol.R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD0 -
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I guess that why shieldstacking sorcs are so OP that were forced to play without any shields in EU tournament.Roymachine wrote: »So dramatic. The good sorcs who stick with it will learn to adapt and move on.
The good sorcs have been sticking with the class and have watched its 2 years long agonizing march to death. It is finally here, it is called the Dark Brotherhood.
Again, you are talking about PvP, not PvE. That is only half of the game, half of the story and thus a very narrow vision.
Yes, sorcerers have good burst and they had good survivability with their shields in PvP, but in PvE we have worst DPS registered, near to no utility for a raid, we can't heal efficiently and we can't tank nearly as well as other classes. That is the sorcerer reality, not some colored version of a competition in Europe which happened before all this nerfs hit this already agonizing class.
Worst DPS registered, yeah... right
https://youtu.be/Bfi1e_2xif4 Edited by DDuke on May 16, 2016 9:22PM4 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
I guess that why shieldstacking sorcs are so OP that were forced to play without any shields in EU tournament.Roymachine wrote: »So dramatic. The good sorcs who stick with it will learn to adapt and move on.
The good sorcs have been sticking with the class and have watched its 2 years long agonizing march to death. It is finally here, it is called the Dark Brotherhood.
Again, you are talking about PvP, not PvE. That is only half of the game, half of the story and thus a very narrow vision.
Yes, sorcerers have good burst and they had good survivability with their shields in PvP, but in PvE we have worst DPS registered, near to no utility for a raid, we can't heal efficiently and we can't tank nearly as well as other classes. That is the sorcerer reality, not some colored version of a competition in Europe which happened before all this nerfs hit this already agonizing class.
Worst DPS registered, yeah... righthttps://youtu.be/Bfi1e_2xif4
So 39.3k while doing nothing at all in utility for the group? I'd still say other classes are better since they got some kind of utility to help the group out while doing pretty much the same amount of dps.R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD2 -
iam117✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »So 39.3k while doing nothing at all in utility for the group? I'd still say other classes are better since they got some kind of utility to help the group out while doing pretty much the same amount of dps.
i agree there needs to be more group utility, but high dps is definitely achievable on a sorc.<Liv3mind><PC/NA - Legion Of The Bloodworks>Snowflake Patrol1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I play every class.
Comparing all of them to each other, along with lots of theorycrafting toward Sorcerer builds..... It's actually really bad atm. Not to mention shieldspam every 6 seconds is unfun and will cause most Magicka Sorcerers to reroll.
Sorcs don't have many ways to build themselves. They already have few viable build options.
Not sure if it's an oversight, but Conjured Ward is what keeps Pets alive for Pet Sorcs (the ONE other unique Sorc playstyle possible). With the duration nerf, Pet Sorcs wil notice the Wards collapse immediately before the damage decides hit and it'll become impossible to manage without constantly spamming Conjured Ward.
All Sorc builds get a heavy nerf, but moreso those which were never considered strong. Meanwhile, my PvP Sorc will mainly gain more defense vs Physical damage while only being more susceptible to ganking when mounted.
You can list out the exact gear/skill setup of any given Magicka Sorc now due to the tiny amount of viability anything besides the cookie cutter Sorc layouts have.
I just struggle to understand why my DK, Templar, and NB can do so many different things and remain very powerful, yet my Sorc cannot do this.
EDIT: In terms of PvE DPS.... that annoying, buggy Overload is the only reason for that "40K" DPS. Personally, I think it should be reworked entirely and Sorc should have other options to achieve high DPS.
TLDR: Pick any other class besides Sorcerer. You simply will not have fun playing one anymore.Edited by Vaoh on May 16, 2016 9:41PM2 -
iam117✭✭✭double post.Edited by iam117 on May 16, 2016 9:36PM<Liv3mind><PC/NA - Legion Of The Bloodworks>Snowflake Patrol0
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✭✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
I guess that why shieldstacking sorcs are so OP that were forced to play without any shields in EU tournament.Roymachine wrote: »So dramatic. The good sorcs who stick with it will learn to adapt and move on.
The good sorcs have been sticking with the class and have watched its 2 years long agonizing march to death. It is finally here, it is called the Dark Brotherhood.
Again, you are talking about PvP, not PvE. That is only half of the game, half of the story and thus a very narrow vision.
Yes, sorcerers have good burst and they had good survivability with their shields in PvP, but in PvE we have worst DPS registered, near to no utility for a raid, we can't heal efficiently and we can't tank nearly as well as other classes. That is the sorcerer reality, not some colored version of a competition in Europe which happened before all this nerfs hit this already agonizing class.
Worst DPS registered, yeah... righthttps://youtu.be/Bfi1e_2xif4
So 39.3k while doing nothing at all in utility for the group? I'd still say other classes are better since they got some kind of utility to help the group out while doing pretty much the same amount of dps.
The zero utility (and dps
) stamina nightblade would like to say hi (stam sorcs are even worse off atm).
You'd be lucky to hit 30k at that boss (well, bosses) as a stamblade.Edited by DDuke on May 16, 2016 9:40PM1