andypappb16_ESO wrote: »
wrong,
look at this again:It now can proc on dots as it seems.Surge: This ability and its morphs now restore a flat value of health whenever you deal a Critical Strike. It will now also proc on any Critical Strike instead of only direct damage Critical Strikes, but can only restore health once every second.
They were talking about Implosion (formerly Disintegrate). If Disintergrate never procced on DOTs before, then I have no reason to believe Implosion will proc on DOTs now.
Wow. It's like they said 'how can we simultaneously make this work for flurry, AND turn off magicka vMA easymode?'
Combined with the shield changes, it certainly accomplishes that.
SorataArisugawa wrote: »
Wow. It's like they said 'how can we simultaneously make this work for flurry, AND turn off magicka vMA easymode?'
Combined with the shield changes, it certainly accomplishes that.
... Well that was a big step... in the wrong direction... GREAT JOB @Wrobel
Anyone with the PTS patch downloaded who could test how Implosion functions with DoTs & Flurry?
The changed disintegrate should work well. My magicka sorc stacked shock aoe's, dots, and the lightning staff heavy attack in order to keep the procs rolling against large groups in pvp. This change with hurricane, flurry, and volley could leave stam sorcs good at killing enemies below 20% health. Small range, but not as bad as before. Hurricane giving the minor move speed buff is nice, the choice is a burst of speed or more sustained, but i'm still waiting on a look at refreshing it. But surge... i'll be on pts to check out how it is but, if you call it a 3k hot it doesn't sound as garbage, I mean, can that heal crit at all?
Spearblade wrote: »
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This Lightning Strike thing...depends on duration of the Stamina morph. Keep in mind, Stamina sorcs don't have instant spam, and would be using Wrecking/Dizzying Blow or Flurry (still has channel duration). Also, if it's a buff...gotta be instant cast.
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I'm going to also concur that I like the changes. Now after 2.4.2 there are only TWO more things that must be consider by @wrobel .
1. Give bound aegis / armaments the buffs when on your bar and introduce an activated element to it. No need for the two bar taking up toggle.
2. Give us a physical cp scaling sorc ultimate.. Either atro or overload.
So... why would I use this move over Rally ever?
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So... why would I use this move over Rally ever?
Emma_Eunjung wrote: »Naked without gear using food and no CP assigned. Tooltip doesn't scale with Health, Stamina, or Wpn Damage. Tooltip does scale with Blessed but not Quick Recovery in Champ tree.
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So... why would I use this move over Rally ever?
Because you switched to DW instead of 2H? That's a much bigger heal over time than Rally, anyway.
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So... why would I use this move over Rally ever?
andypappb16_ESO wrote: »
@Vythri
You're not forced to use a 2h anymore for heals, you can put other weapons like Sword/Board/Dualwield/Bow in combination with that change to use now. Think of something new
andypappb16_ESO wrote: »
@Vythri
You're not forced to use a 2h anymore for heals, you can put other weapons like Sword/Board/Dualwield/Bow in combination with that change to use now. Think of something new
Except Rally is a more reliable and guaranteed heal, it can be recast for a burst heal, and it gives you Major Brutality. If you want to heal yourself with Crit Surge, you need to actively be hitting somebody, and then there's the no crititng shields thing.
Sure, you can use other weapons I guess, but it's not worth it.
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So... why would I use this move over Rally ever?
andypappb16_ESO wrote: »andypappb16_ESO wrote: »
@Vythri
You're not forced to use a 2h anymore for heals, you can put other weapons like Sword/Board/Dualwield/Bow in combination with that change to use now. Think of something new
Except Rally is a more reliable and guaranteed heal, it can be recast for a burst heal, and it gives you Major Brutality. If you want to heal yourself with Crit Surge, you need to actively be hitting somebody, and then there's the no crititng shields thing.
Sure, you can use other weapons I guess, but it's not worth it.
Throwing caltrops into a zerg is pretty reliable, too
You can also apply Dots and play the hide behind tree/atro game. It can proc, too and doesnt rely on your dealt damage.
And about no critting shields, if i recall correctly, wasnt there a change so shields CAN be critted...?
I think better question would be: why would I not use both?
Surge has a crazy long duration, and with the amount it heals now you can kind of consider it a 33 second duration Vigor. Combine it with Forward Momentum (or Rally) & Vigor and you have some serious heals on your bar to survive pressure from opponents.