What sense would that make? They're just pixels you created on your whim. More likely people are bothered by pink armored knights and bearded, fat orcs in wedding dresses breaking any last bit of immersion. Those are the only reasons that would explain abuse to me. But not being fat or ugly.rotaugen454 wrote: »I have an overweight female Orc templar that gets a lot of abuse. It's an interesting social experiment to see how people treat her. They say the things out loud that they probably whisper and snicker about in real life.
What sense would that make? They're just pixels you created on your whim. More likely people are bothered by pink armored knights and bearded, fat orcs in wedding dresses breaking any last bit of immersion. Those are the only reasons that would explain abuse to me. But not being fat or ugly.rotaugen454 wrote: »I have an overweight female Orc templar that gets a lot of abuse. It's an interesting social experiment to see how people treat her. They say the things out loud that they probably whisper and snicker about in real life.
Yeah its actually crazy how many people have to comment on it when they see youWhen we do dungeons or when I'm just walking past you in Riften someone has to say something like "omg why are you so fat" It's pretty funny. I've always said though that it's kind of a good thing, as it proves you have a unique and interesting character that people notice.
I have a dark skinned Redguard female, which has an "african" look to her. I was curious about if people will comment on this. They don't, but something else is very strange with it - it is like I would be invisible to them. No one is talking to her or is approaching her. Totally different experience than with my light and fair skinned other female characters.
quadraxis666 wrote: »The gauntlet has been thrown down to create the ugliest character possible!
Elsterchen wrote: »Elsterchen wrote: »Now Alphonse least assured I tell you what i always tell my husband: You worked hard on that belly. Wear it with pride!
Everyone else is just jelly
Goes with a bavarian saying, which translates to "a man without a beer belly is a cripple".
... and can be rounded up with the comment: Why would I want a six-pack, if i can get a keg?
dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »Yeah its actually crazy how many people have to comment on it when they see youWhen we do dungeons or when I'm just walking past you in Riften someone has to say something like "omg why are you so fat" It's pretty funny. I've always said though that it's kind of a good thing, as it proves you have a unique and interesting character that people notice.
I have a dark skinned Redguard female, which has an "african" look to her. I was curious about if people will comment on this. They don't, but something else is very strange with it - it is like I would be invisible to them. No one is talking to her or is approaching her. Totally different experience than with my light and fair skinned other female characters.
A friend of mine saw me at first in my Redguard avatar. He did not mention anything about my appearance. But next time, when he saw me as a fair skinned Breton, his comment was "finally I can see your face" - that was funny, but strange as well.
Edit: had to correct the race, it was a Breton, not a Bosmer.
That sounds like a pixel problem.
I do have to say that My Orc Templar has gotten a lot of unkind words for his looks. I actually take a lot of time into building a style and theme for every character I make. I don't take it personally either, because I actually wanted him to look ugly. In many MMO's I've made ugly characters, because to be honest I like bucking the trend that a hero has to have shiny hair, gleaming teeth, perfect figure and the rest of it. You'd be surprised what some of the deadliest soldiers ever looked like. Heroism is internal, it is not external. I like that Orc Templar. He's old, he's got wrinkles, he's got some pretty bad scars over his whole body (Spent a long time in Coldharbor), his skin is unhealthy and pale, and yes he's fat (but didn't I mention he's really old) but he has a cheerful smile. I pause on that a moment - he has a cheerful smile. The whole notion behind this character was that behind all the hell he'd been through, the good person within keeps trudging on. I'm not a roleplayer but I do like to add a little 3d to the character (even if I do skip dialogues now, its only because I know what they're going to say before they say it).
Just going to say: Sometimes its fun to push the slider down and make someone shorter, normal sized, skinny, fat, or 'odd' looking. I don't do such things to be mocking, but more because of a recognition of the internal. I suppose the reason I think about things like this in character design is that I do in some manner recognize the RPG part of the MMORPG.
Edit: As an aside, the character I've played most is Dodge Hopper. He's a muscular north-Italian (the idea being mixed between Imperial and Nord) looking guy of normal height (I never pushed the slider up or down). I tried to give him a determined look on his face. Its funny how many people tower over that character, and I'm not talking just Altmer and Orcs. Being normal sized in the game seems small. I even find most Bosmer males are my height (or at least really close to it). As an observation, I guess no one wants to be short (Or normal sized for that matter).
That being normal sized looks small is a matter of the camera angle to the character - I know this very well from second life - in second life this leads to that all has to be oversized to make it look normal. If the camera would be on character height and nearby the character, this is different, but normally we look at it in 3rd person from a position behind and up - and this leads to that speed, size and other factors are distorted to our perception.
Edit: and no it is not a pixel problem with the appearance of my Redguard - her face is clearly to see.
Well, this one has better lighting - when she emerged from coldhabour at level 3.
I guess you are right. I figured it was a dark lighting and poor screen issue by what was described. I know I've gone to Cyrodiil before on terrible gfx settings, and everyone just looks like wandering blobs when you do that. I figured the same here. Either way, cool character. I'm a big fan of the ragada. I'm planning to make one when I get more character slots, but the hard choice for me is the class. The new Hurricane skill for sorcerers is tempting thematically, but the sorcerer class as a whole seems pretty abominable to standard Redguard culture. Besides, I suspect DK or NB would work best with the racials. The irony is I think Templar is probably closer to their culture.
CaptainBeerDude wrote: »dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »Yeah its actually crazy how many people have to comment on it when they see youWhen we do dungeons or when I'm just walking past you in Riften someone has to say something like "omg why are you so fat" It's pretty funny. I've always said though that it's kind of a good thing, as it proves you have a unique and interesting character that people notice.
I have a dark skinned Redguard female, which has an "african" look to her. I was curious about if people will comment on this. They don't, but something else is very strange with it - it is like I would be invisible to them. No one is talking to her or is approaching her. Totally different experience than with my light and fair skinned other female characters.
A friend of mine saw me at first in my Redguard avatar. He did not mention anything about my appearance. But next time, when he saw me as a fair skinned Breton, his comment was "finally I can see your face" - that was funny, but strange as well.
Edit: had to correct the race, it was a Breton, not a Bosmer.
That sounds like a pixel problem.
I do have to say that My Orc Templar has gotten a lot of unkind words for his looks. I actually take a lot of time into building a style and theme for every character I make. I don't take it personally either, because I actually wanted him to look ugly. In many MMO's I've made ugly characters, because to be honest I like bucking the trend that a hero has to have shiny hair, gleaming teeth, perfect figure and the rest of it. You'd be surprised what some of the deadliest soldiers ever looked like. Heroism is internal, it is not external. I like that Orc Templar. He's old, he's got wrinkles, he's got some pretty bad scars over his whole body (Spent a long time in Coldharbor), his skin is unhealthy and pale, and yes he's fat (but didn't I mention he's really old) but he has a cheerful smile. I pause on that a moment - he has a cheerful smile. The whole notion behind this character was that behind all the hell he'd been through, the good person within keeps trudging on. I'm not a roleplayer but I do like to add a little 3d to the character (even if I do skip dialogues now, its only because I know what they're going to say before they say it).
Just going to say: Sometimes its fun to push the slider down and make someone shorter, normal sized, skinny, fat, or 'odd' looking. I don't do such things to be mocking, but more because of a recognition of the internal. I suppose the reason I think about things like this in character design is that I do in some manner recognize the RPG part of the MMORPG.
Edit: As an aside, the character I've played most is Dodge Hopper. He's a muscular north-Italian (the idea being mixed between Imperial and Nord) looking guy of normal height (I never pushed the slider up or down). I tried to give him a determined look on his face. Its funny how many people tower over that character, and I'm not talking just Altmer and Orcs. Being normal sized in the game seems small. I even find most Bosmer males are my height (or at least really close to it). As an observation, I guess no one wants to be short (Or normal sized for that matter).
That being normal sized looks small is a matter of the camera angle to the character - I know this very well from second life - in second life this leads to that all has to be oversized to make it look normal. If the camera would be on character height and nearby the character, this is different, but normally we look at it in 3rd person from a position behind and up - and this leads to that speed, size and other factors are distorted to our perception.
Edit: and no it is not a pixel problem with the appearance of my Redguard - her face is clearly to see.
Well, this one has better lighting - when she emerged from coldhabour at level 3.
I guess you are right. I figured it was a dark lighting and poor screen issue by what was described. I know I've gone to Cyrodiil before on terrible gfx settings, and everyone just looks like wandering blobs when you do that. I figured the same here. Either way, cool character. I'm a big fan of the ragada. I'm planning to make one when I get more character slots, but the hard choice for me is the class. The new Hurricane skill for sorcerers is tempting thematically, but the sorcerer class as a whole seems pretty abominable to standard Redguard culture. Besides, I suspect DK or NB would work best with the racials. The irony is I think Templar is probably closer to their culture.
I thought a Redguard stam sorc would be a Sword Saint kind of deal. I'm hardly an expert, but the bits and pieces that I've seen seem to suggest that.
dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »CaptainBeerDude wrote: »dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »Yeah its actually crazy how many people have to comment on it when they see youWhen we do dungeons or when I'm just walking past you in Riften someone has to say something like "omg why are you so fat" It's pretty funny. I've always said though that it's kind of a good thing, as it proves you have a unique and interesting character that people notice.
I have a dark skinned Redguard female, which has an "african" look to her. I was curious about if people will comment on this. They don't, but something else is very strange with it - it is like I would be invisible to them. No one is talking to her or is approaching her. Totally different experience than with my light and fair skinned other female characters.
A friend of mine saw me at first in my Redguard avatar. He did not mention anything about my appearance. But next time, when he saw me as a fair skinned Breton, his comment was "finally I can see your face" - that was funny, but strange as well.
Edit: had to correct the race, it was a Breton, not a Bosmer.
That sounds like a pixel problem.
I do have to say that My Orc Templar has gotten a lot of unkind words for his looks. I actually take a lot of time into building a style and theme for every character I make. I don't take it personally either, because I actually wanted him to look ugly. In many MMO's I've made ugly characters, because to be honest I like bucking the trend that a hero has to have shiny hair, gleaming teeth, perfect figure and the rest of it. You'd be surprised what some of the deadliest soldiers ever looked like. Heroism is internal, it is not external. I like that Orc Templar. He's old, he's got wrinkles, he's got some pretty bad scars over his whole body (Spent a long time in Coldharbor), his skin is unhealthy and pale, and yes he's fat (but didn't I mention he's really old) but he has a cheerful smile. I pause on that a moment - he has a cheerful smile. The whole notion behind this character was that behind all the hell he'd been through, the good person within keeps trudging on. I'm not a roleplayer but I do like to add a little 3d to the character (even if I do skip dialogues now, its only because I know what they're going to say before they say it).
Just going to say: Sometimes its fun to push the slider down and make someone shorter, normal sized, skinny, fat, or 'odd' looking. I don't do such things to be mocking, but more because of a recognition of the internal. I suppose the reason I think about things like this in character design is that I do in some manner recognize the RPG part of the MMORPG.
Edit: As an aside, the character I've played most is Dodge Hopper. He's a muscular north-Italian (the idea being mixed between Imperial and Nord) looking guy of normal height (I never pushed the slider up or down). I tried to give him a determined look on his face. Its funny how many people tower over that character, and I'm not talking just Altmer and Orcs. Being normal sized in the game seems small. I even find most Bosmer males are my height (or at least really close to it). As an observation, I guess no one wants to be short (Or normal sized for that matter).
That being normal sized looks small is a matter of the camera angle to the character - I know this very well from second life - in second life this leads to that all has to be oversized to make it look normal. If the camera would be on character height and nearby the character, this is different, but normally we look at it in 3rd person from a position behind and up - and this leads to that speed, size and other factors are distorted to our perception.
Edit: and no it is not a pixel problem with the appearance of my Redguard - her face is clearly to see.
Well, this one has better lighting - when she emerged from coldhabour at level 3.
I guess you are right. I figured it was a dark lighting and poor screen issue by what was described. I know I've gone to Cyrodiil before on terrible gfx settings, and everyone just looks like wandering blobs when you do that. I figured the same here. Either way, cool character. I'm a big fan of the ragada. I'm planning to make one when I get more character slots, but the hard choice for me is the class. The new Hurricane skill for sorcerers is tempting thematically, but the sorcerer class as a whole seems pretty abominable to standard Redguard culture. Besides, I suspect DK or NB would work best with the racials. The irony is I think Templar is probably closer to their culture.
I thought a Redguard stam sorc would be a Sword Saint kind of deal. I'm hardly an expert, but the bits and pieces that I've seen seem to suggest that.
I think maybe the Storm Calling line, not so much the Dark or Daedric.
rotaugen454 wrote: »I have an overweight female Orc templar that gets a lot of abuse. It's an interesting social experiment to see how people treat her. They say the things out loud that they probably whisper and snicker about in real life.
In second life I found that people feel insulted by fat or disabled avatars. Their reasoning is, that it is disgusting to be that in a game as well, where it could be easily avoided. Some region owners even ban such avatars from their region, because they see that as a grief attempt to disturb other guests and make them feel uncomfortable. Tolerance is in low supply nowadays.
paleobonesb14_ESO wrote: »Its interesting that most of the heavy set characters are made to look ugly as well. I have seen quite a few large orc females but, I cant recall ever seeing a large female high elf.
kasa-obake wrote: »
WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »@Lysette: Odd. Are you wearing the same costume on both characters? Maybe it's a contrast thing.
rotaugen454 wrote: »I have an overweight female Orc templar that gets a lot of abuse. It's an interesting social experiment to see how people treat her. They say the things out loud that they probably whisper and snicker about in real life.
In second life I found that people feel insulted by fat or disabled avatars. Their reasoning is, that it is disgusting to be that in a game as well, where it could be easily avoided. Some region owners even ban such avatars from their region, because they see that as a grief attempt to disturb other guests and make them feel uncomfortable. Tolerance is in low supply nowadays.
But i took a arrow to the knee for my country!
At the bank today there was a sexy naked Nord lady on the table.
stojekarcub18_ESO wrote: »My pot-bellied, flat-chested Argonian, "Squirts-All-Colors", gets the same sort of abuse. Her extreme appearance was my goal, though...so I take the insults as compliments. x)
AhWellEveryone wrote: »My main character is a Nord. A fat Nord that goes by the name of Alphonse Gabriel Capone. This is him:
Nearly everyday someone will make a comment along the lines of "omg you so funny you so fat" or "You'd look badass if you weren't such a ***" and " You're disgusting". I don't mind. I think it's hilarious. I was wondering if anyone else has received comments about their fat characters.
AhWellEveryone wrote: »My main character is a Nord. A fat Nord that goes by the name of Alphonse Gabriel Capone. This is him:
Nearly everyday someone will make a comment along the lines of "omg you so funny you so fat" or "You'd look badass if you weren't such a ***" and " You're disgusting". I don't mind. I think it's hilarious. I was wondering if anyone else has received comments about their fat characters.