My Fat Nord Gets Abused

Lysette

Nightenhowl wrote: »

"Remember this always, son of the north - a Nord is judged not by the manner in which he lived, but the manner in which he died." -Ysgramor

Absolutely, I remember the farewell saying in Skyrim "may you die with your sword in your hand".

Danikat

Lysette wrote: »

paleobonesb14_ESO wrote: »

I'm sure your orc is lovely

It doesn't change the fact that I have seen more large orcs then any of the other races.

Maybe that is intentional, that race specific, you cannot set sliders outside a range, which is meant for this race. Altmer are supposed to be taller with a slender look to them - and maybe that is why you cannot really make them fat.

Race and gender is definitely a factor.

You can try it yourself in the character creator: set all the relevant sliders (waist size, gut size, 'posterior dimensions' etc. to their maximum position and lock them in, set body type to 'large'. (I also locked age to the minimum and height to exactly the middle of the bar, but I'm not sure if that matters.) Then try changing the race and gender.

The contrast is striking. A male altmer, dunmer or bosmer with the sliders all the way over is the same as a male orc with the sliders in the middle. The other races are somewhere in between with humans (IMO) looking slightly bigger than khajiit or argonians.

So it's likely that a lot of people who are deliberately trying to make a fat character will pick the races where you can make them look the largest. Otherwise although it's extreme for their race it's not that exceptional and probably won't be noticed as much by players, especially once you put them in heavy armour.

(Although interestingly there's a lot less difference at the other extreme, if you set all the sliders to minimum you can make them look incredibly skinny and actually half starved (I can count their ribs while zoomed all the way out) and they all seem to go to the same extreme. I'd expect the bigger built races like the orcs and nord to still look more muscular.)

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

People here have the ba... guts on internet where they are too cowardly to speak up in real life.
Logical, they'd get such a fat beating, they'd wish never to be born...

stojekarcub18_ESO

My pot-bellied, flat-chested Argonian, "Squirts-All-Colors", gets the same sort of abuse. Her extreme appearance was my goal, though...so I take the insults as compliments. x)

dodgehopper_ESO

Lysette wrote: »

Glaiceana wrote: »

Yeah its actually crazy how many people have to comment on it when they see you When we do dungeons or when I'm just walking past you in Riften someone has to say something like "omg why are you so fat" It's pretty funny. I've always said though that it's kind of a good thing, as it proves you have a unique and interesting character that people notice.

I have a dark skinned Redguard female, which has an "african" look to her. I was curious about if people will comment on this. They don't, but something else is very strange with it - it is like I would be invisible to them. No one is talking to her or is approaching her. Totally different experience than with my light and fair skinned other female characters.

A friend of mine saw me at first in my Redguard avatar. He did not mention anything about my appearance. But next time, when he saw me as a fair skinned Breton, his comment was "finally I can see your face" - that was funny, but strange as well.

Edit: had to correct the race, it was a Breton, not a Bosmer.

That sounds like a pixel problem.

I do have to say that My Orc Templar has gotten a lot of unkind words for his looks. I actually take a lot of time into building a style and theme for every character I make. I don't take it personally either, because I actually wanted him to look ugly. In many MMO's I've made ugly characters, because to be honest I like bucking the trend that a hero has to have shiny hair, gleaming teeth, perfect figure and the rest of it. You'd be surprised what some of the deadliest soldiers ever looked like. Heroism is internal, it is not external. I like that Orc Templar. He's old, he's got wrinkles, he's got some pretty bad scars over his whole body (Spent a long time in Coldharbor), his skin is unhealthy and pale, and yes he's fat (but didn't I mention he's really old) but he has a cheerful smile. I pause on that a moment - he has a cheerful smile. The whole notion behind this character was that behind all the hell he'd been through, the good person within keeps trudging on. I'm not a roleplayer but I do like to add a little 3d to the character (even if I do skip dialogues now, its only because I know what they're going to say before they say it).

Just going to say: Sometimes its fun to push the slider down and make someone shorter, normal sized, skinny, fat, or 'odd' looking. I don't do such things to be mocking, but more because of a recognition of the internal. I suppose the reason I think about things like this in character design is that I do in some manner recognize the RPG part of the MMORPG.

Edit: As an aside, the character I've played most is Dodge Hopper. He's a muscular north-Italian (the idea being mixed between Imperial and Nord) looking guy of normal height (I never pushed the slider up or down). I tried to give him a determined look on his face. Its funny how many people tower over that character, and I'm not talking just Altmer and Orcs. Being normal sized in the game seems small. I even find most Bosmer males are my height (or at least really close to it). As an observation, I guess no one wants to be short (Or normal sized for that matter).

JollyGhost

Elsterchen wrote: »

Now Alphonse least assured I tell you what i always tell my husband: You worked hard on that belly. Wear it with pride!

Everyone else is just jelly

edit: reminds me that i wanted to start a very old granny character... a follower of Namira spreading pestilence.

Haha yes. I shall swing my belly all around for all to see.

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

Please modify the title of this thread... It looks and sounds so wrong. I was bracing myself to encounter the worse when i clicked to enter here lol

Haha it fits perfectly.

Taisynn wrote: »

You'd think with the pushback on fat shaming, people would leave it alone. We're so preoccupied with perfection in games, we somehow get insulted when a character is a realistic body shape.

Also, fat isn't something you are; it's just something you have. You are not defined by something you have when you can also lose it.

I cant loose it. Poor Alphonse is stuck being fat. Unless the barber shop will allow me to remove my belly. Not that I want to lol.

quadraxis666 wrote: »

The gauntlet has been thrown down to create the ugliest character possible!

Please no

NateAssassin

I made my characters have perfect figure and I get messages saying "Your character is hot".

Lysette

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Glaiceana wrote: »

Yeah its actually crazy how many people have to comment on it when they see you When we do dungeons or when I'm just walking past you in Riften someone has to say something like "omg why are you so fat" It's pretty funny. I've always said though that it's kind of a good thing, as it proves you have a unique and interesting character that people notice.

I have a dark skinned Redguard female, which has an "african" look to her. I was curious about if people will comment on this. They don't, but something else is very strange with it - it is like I would be invisible to them. No one is talking to her or is approaching her. Totally different experience than with my light and fair skinned other female characters.

A friend of mine saw me at first in my Redguard avatar. He did not mention anything about my appearance. But next time, when he saw me as a fair skinned Breton, his comment was "finally I can see your face" - that was funny, but strange as well.

Edit: had to correct the race, it was a Breton, not a Bosmer.

That sounds like a pixel problem.

I do have to say that My Orc Templar has gotten a lot of unkind words for his looks. I actually take a lot of time into building a style and theme for every character I make. I don't take it personally either, because I actually wanted him to look ugly. In many MMO's I've made ugly characters, because to be honest I like bucking the trend that a hero has to have shiny hair, gleaming teeth, perfect figure and the rest of it. You'd be surprised what some of the deadliest soldiers ever looked like. Heroism is internal, it is not external. I like that Orc Templar. He's old, he's got wrinkles, he's got some pretty bad scars over his whole body (Spent a long time in Coldharbor), his skin is unhealthy and pale, and yes he's fat (but didn't I mention he's really old) but he has a cheerful smile. I pause on that a moment - he has a cheerful smile. The whole notion behind this character was that behind all the hell he'd been through, the good person within keeps trudging on. I'm not a roleplayer but I do like to add a little 3d to the character (even if I do skip dialogues now, its only because I know what they're going to say before they say it).

Just going to say: Sometimes its fun to push the slider down and make someone shorter, normal sized, skinny, fat, or 'odd' looking. I don't do such things to be mocking, but more because of a recognition of the internal. I suppose the reason I think about things like this in character design is that I do in some manner recognize the RPG part of the MMORPG.

Edit: As an aside, the character I've played most is Dodge Hopper. He's a muscular north-Italian (the idea being mixed between Imperial and Nord) looking guy of normal height (I never pushed the slider up or down). I tried to give him a determined look on his face. Its funny how many people tower over that character, and I'm not talking just Altmer and Orcs. Being normal sized in the game seems small. I even find most Bosmer males are my height (or at least really close to it). As an observation, I guess no one wants to be short (Or normal sized for that matter).

That being normal sized looks small is a matter of the camera angle to the character - I know this very well from second life - in second life this leads to that all has to be oversized to make it look normal. If the camera would be on character height and nearby the character, this is different, but normally we look at it in 3rd person from a position behind and up - and this leads to that speed, size and other factors are distorted to our perception.

Edit: and no it is not a pixel problem with the appearance of my Redguard - her face is clearly to see.



Well, this one has better lighting - when she emerged from coldhabour at level 3.

Dromede

I was surprised to put a new Bosmer outfit on an Imperial DK tank girl that I created looong time ago when the game was just 3-4 months old. Haven't played her since then))) I could see the muscles above her knees lol, and her arms are very muscular too.

She was intended as a tank, so it makes sense I guess)) The rest of my characters are very model like, especially a Breton healer who's a total doll.

My main, Sorc Altmer girl, is bald and got quite a lot of comments for that. Some of my guildies were joking that as soon as barber shop gets opened up, they'll pull some gold together to get Skye (her name) some hair I really like her the way she is though, super tall and slender, bald and with golden dragon tattoos all over her body, looking mysterious and dangerous

dodgehopper_ESO

Lysette wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Glaiceana wrote: »

Yeah its actually crazy how many people have to comment on it when they see you When we do dungeons or when I'm just walking past you in Riften someone has to say something like "omg why are you so fat" It's pretty funny. I've always said though that it's kind of a good thing, as it proves you have a unique and interesting character that people notice.

I have a dark skinned Redguard female, which has an "african" look to her. I was curious about if people will comment on this. They don't, but something else is very strange with it - it is like I would be invisible to them. No one is talking to her or is approaching her. Totally different experience than with my light and fair skinned other female characters.

A friend of mine saw me at first in my Redguard avatar. He did not mention anything about my appearance. But next time, when he saw me as a fair skinned Breton, his comment was "finally I can see your face" - that was funny, but strange as well.

Edit: had to correct the race, it was a Breton, not a Bosmer.

That sounds like a pixel problem.

I do have to say that My Orc Templar has gotten a lot of unkind words for his looks. I actually take a lot of time into building a style and theme for every character I make. I don't take it personally either, because I actually wanted him to look ugly. In many MMO's I've made ugly characters, because to be honest I like bucking the trend that a hero has to have shiny hair, gleaming teeth, perfect figure and the rest of it. You'd be surprised what some of the deadliest soldiers ever looked like. Heroism is internal, it is not external. I like that Orc Templar. He's old, he's got wrinkles, he's got some pretty bad scars over his whole body (Spent a long time in Coldharbor), his skin is unhealthy and pale, and yes he's fat (but didn't I mention he's really old) but he has a cheerful smile. I pause on that a moment - he has a cheerful smile. The whole notion behind this character was that behind all the hell he'd been through, the good person within keeps trudging on. I'm not a roleplayer but I do like to add a little 3d to the character (even if I do skip dialogues now, its only because I know what they're going to say before they say it).

Just going to say: Sometimes its fun to push the slider down and make someone shorter, normal sized, skinny, fat, or 'odd' looking. I don't do such things to be mocking, but more because of a recognition of the internal. I suppose the reason I think about things like this in character design is that I do in some manner recognize the RPG part of the MMORPG.

Edit: As an aside, the character I've played most is Dodge Hopper. He's a muscular north-Italian (the idea being mixed between Imperial and Nord) looking guy of normal height (I never pushed the slider up or down). I tried to give him a determined look on his face. Its funny how many people tower over that character, and I'm not talking just Altmer and Orcs. Being normal sized in the game seems small. I even find most Bosmer males are my height (or at least really close to it). As an observation, I guess no one wants to be short (Or normal sized for that matter).

That being normal sized looks small is a matter of the camera angle to the character - I know this very well from second life - in second life this leads to that all has to be oversized to make it look normal. If the camera would be on character height and nearby the character, this is different, but normally we look at it in 3rd person from a position behind and up - and this leads to that speed, size and other factors are distorted to our perception.

Edit: and no it is not a pixel problem with the appearance of my Redguard - her face is clearly to see.



Well, this one has better lighting - when she emerged from coldhabour at level 3.

I guess you are right. I figured it was a dark lighting and poor screen issue by what was described. I know I've gone to Cyrodiil before on terrible gfx settings, and everyone just looks like wandering blobs when you do that. I figured the same here. Either way, cool character. I'm a big fan of the ragada. I'm planning to make one when I get more character slots, but the hard choice for me is the class. The new Hurricane skill for sorcerers is tempting thematically, but the sorcerer class as a whole seems pretty abominable to standard Redguard culture. Besides, I suspect DK or NB would work best with the racials. The irony is I think Templar is probably closer to their culture.

Lysette

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Glaiceana wrote: »

Yeah its actually crazy how many people have to comment on it when they see you When we do dungeons or when I'm just walking past you in Riften someone has to say something like "omg why are you so fat" It's pretty funny. I've always said though that it's kind of a good thing, as it proves you have a unique and interesting character that people notice.

I have a dark skinned Redguard female, which has an "african" look to her. I was curious about if people will comment on this. They don't, but something else is very strange with it - it is like I would be invisible to them. No one is talking to her or is approaching her. Totally different experience than with my light and fair skinned other female characters.

A friend of mine saw me at first in my Redguard avatar. He did not mention anything about my appearance. But next time, when he saw me as a fair skinned Breton, his comment was "finally I can see your face" - that was funny, but strange as well.

Edit: had to correct the race, it was a Breton, not a Bosmer.

That sounds like a pixel problem.

I do have to say that My Orc Templar has gotten a lot of unkind words for his looks. I actually take a lot of time into building a style and theme for every character I make. I don't take it personally either, because I actually wanted him to look ugly. In many MMO's I've made ugly characters, because to be honest I like bucking the trend that a hero has to have shiny hair, gleaming teeth, perfect figure and the rest of it. You'd be surprised what some of the deadliest soldiers ever looked like. Heroism is internal, it is not external. I like that Orc Templar. He's old, he's got wrinkles, he's got some pretty bad scars over his whole body (Spent a long time in Coldharbor), his skin is unhealthy and pale, and yes he's fat (but didn't I mention he's really old) but he has a cheerful smile. I pause on that a moment - he has a cheerful smile. The whole notion behind this character was that behind all the hell he'd been through, the good person within keeps trudging on. I'm not a roleplayer but I do like to add a little 3d to the character (even if I do skip dialogues now, its only because I know what they're going to say before they say it).

Just going to say: Sometimes its fun to push the slider down and make someone shorter, normal sized, skinny, fat, or 'odd' looking. I don't do such things to be mocking, but more because of a recognition of the internal. I suppose the reason I think about things like this in character design is that I do in some manner recognize the RPG part of the MMORPG.

Edit: As an aside, the character I've played most is Dodge Hopper. He's a muscular north-Italian (the idea being mixed between Imperial and Nord) looking guy of normal height (I never pushed the slider up or down). I tried to give him a determined look on his face. Its funny how many people tower over that character, and I'm not talking just Altmer and Orcs. Being normal sized in the game seems small. I even find most Bosmer males are my height (or at least really close to it). As an observation, I guess no one wants to be short (Or normal sized for that matter).

That being normal sized looks small is a matter of the camera angle to the character - I know this very well from second life - in second life this leads to that all has to be oversized to make it look normal. If the camera would be on character height and nearby the character, this is different, but normally we look at it in 3rd person from a position behind and up - and this leads to that speed, size and other factors are distorted to our perception.

Edit: and no it is not a pixel problem with the appearance of my Redguard - her face is clearly to see.



Well, this one has better lighting - when she emerged from coldhabour at level 3.

I guess you are right. I figured it was a dark lighting and poor screen issue by what was described. I know I've gone to Cyrodiil before on terrible gfx settings, and everyone just looks like wandering blobs when you do that. I figured the same here. Either way, cool character. I'm a big fan of the ragada. I'm planning to make one when I get more character slots, but the hard choice for me is the class. The new Hurricane skill for sorcerers is tempting thematically, but the sorcerer class as a whole seems pretty abominable to standard Redguard culture. Besides, I suspect DK or NB would work best with the racials. The irony is I think Templar is probably closer to their culture.

Her looks are that of a Xhosa woman - a tribe in south africa - and so I gave her a Xhosa name even.

Lenikus

My 2 main characters have people constatly asking me if they are a boy or a girl... I kinda don't get it, really.
Lean is the new sexy anyway, and Flat is Justice.

Slurg

I know it sounds like I'm blaming the victim here, but if you are running around with a nearly naked overweight Nord (evidenced by the picture in the OP) you should probably expect that some people will have something to say about it. Same goes for those midriff baring costumes on characters with ample tummies. Doesn't make it right but it's not a shocker.

No one has said anything negative to me about the appearance of my female Orc and she's a big girl. But then again I don't put her in belly dancer costumes or station her at crafting stations wearing nothing but her underwear.

rotaugen454

Slurg wrote: »

I know it sounds like I'm blaming the victim here, but if you are running around with a nearly naked overweight Nord (evidenced by the picture in the OP) you should probably expect that some people will have something to say about it. Same goes for those midriff baring costumes on characters with ample tummies. Doesn't make it right but it's not a shocker.

No one has said anything negative to me about the appearance of my female Orc and she's a big girl. But then again I don't put her in belly dancer costumes or station her at crafting stations wearing nothing but her underwear.

My Orc female is always in full heavy armor (minus the hidden helmet), and she gets comments all the time. The comments almost always seem to come from teenage boys, given the other things they say in zone chat.

Azzuria

Just tell them he's more to love... and fear, once he gets moving.

... if he get's moving.

Where'd you hide the mead, milk-drinker?

aidenmoore

Playing as an Orc. I know how you feel. Stay strong. You're beautiful in the inside and that is what matter.

JollyGhost

Slurg wrote: »

I know it sounds like I'm blaming the victim here, but if you are running around with a nearly naked overweight Nord (evidenced by the picture in the OP) you should probably expect that some people will have something to say about it. Same goes for those midriff baring costumes on characters with ample tummies. Doesn't make it right but it's not a shocker.

No one has said anything negative to me about the appearance of my female Orc and she's a big girl. But then again I don't put her in belly dancer costumes or station her at crafting stations wearing nothing but her underwear.

The half naked picture is just so you can see how fat he is. I rarely take my armor off. For obvious reasons xD

Zerok

Zerok wrote: »

My sorcerer Gontrand is also fat and bald (and a stage 4 vampire), but I only got 2-3 comments on his ugliness since I started playing with him.

quadraxis666 wrote: »

The gauntlet has been thrown down to create the ugliest character possible!

I forgot to mention. Gontrand is also redhaired and has a moustache (but no beard). I will take a screenshot when I'm home.

I remember when I was doing a PUG, a guy said something like "OMG, that moustache is ugly". On the contrary, I think it adds to his charm.

Since he is a greedy aristocrat, I make him wear all glass style in immaculate white, gold and royal purple. He is a real ladykiller.

clocksstoppe

ITT: Things that never happened.

KingWhyteboi

i had a max weight stam sorc orc in a jester suit talk about ppl making comments was to funny

GreenSoup2HoT

I love people who make in depth characters with backstories and such. Your Fat Nord is something to be proud of.....

dodgehopper_ESO

Lysette wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Glaiceana wrote: »

Yeah its actually crazy how many people have to comment on it when they see you When we do dungeons or when I'm just walking past you in Riften someone has to say something like "omg why are you so fat" It's pretty funny. I've always said though that it's kind of a good thing, as it proves you have a unique and interesting character that people notice.

I have a dark skinned Redguard female, which has an "african" look to her. I was curious about if people will comment on this. They don't, but something else is very strange with it - it is like I would be invisible to them. No one is talking to her or is approaching her. Totally different experience than with my light and fair skinned other female characters.

A friend of mine saw me at first in my Redguard avatar. He did not mention anything about my appearance. But next time, when he saw me as a fair skinned Breton, his comment was "finally I can see your face" - that was funny, but strange as well.

Edit: had to correct the race, it was a Breton, not a Bosmer.

That sounds like a pixel problem.

I do have to say that My Orc Templar has gotten a lot of unkind words for his looks. I actually take a lot of time into building a style and theme for every character I make. I don't take it personally either, because I actually wanted him to look ugly. In many MMO's I've made ugly characters, because to be honest I like bucking the trend that a hero has to have shiny hair, gleaming teeth, perfect figure and the rest of it. You'd be surprised what some of the deadliest soldiers ever looked like. Heroism is internal, it is not external. I like that Orc Templar. He's old, he's got wrinkles, he's got some pretty bad scars over his whole body (Spent a long time in Coldharbor), his skin is unhealthy and pale, and yes he's fat (but didn't I mention he's really old) but he has a cheerful smile. I pause on that a moment - he has a cheerful smile. The whole notion behind this character was that behind all the hell he'd been through, the good person within keeps trudging on. I'm not a roleplayer but I do like to add a little 3d to the character (even if I do skip dialogues now, its only because I know what they're going to say before they say it).

Just going to say: Sometimes its fun to push the slider down and make someone shorter, normal sized, skinny, fat, or 'odd' looking. I don't do such things to be mocking, but more because of a recognition of the internal. I suppose the reason I think about things like this in character design is that I do in some manner recognize the RPG part of the MMORPG.

Edit: As an aside, the character I've played most is Dodge Hopper. He's a muscular north-Italian (the idea being mixed between Imperial and Nord) looking guy of normal height (I never pushed the slider up or down). I tried to give him a determined look on his face. Its funny how many people tower over that character, and I'm not talking just Altmer and Orcs. Being normal sized in the game seems small. I even find most Bosmer males are my height (or at least really close to it). As an observation, I guess no one wants to be short (Or normal sized for that matter).

That being normal sized looks small is a matter of the camera angle to the character - I know this very well from second life - in second life this leads to that all has to be oversized to make it look normal. If the camera would be on character height and nearby the character, this is different, but normally we look at it in 3rd person from a position behind and up - and this leads to that speed, size and other factors are distorted to our perception.

Edit: and no it is not a pixel problem with the appearance of my Redguard - her face is clearly to see.



Well, this one has better lighting - when she emerged from coldhabour at level 3.

I guess you are right. I figured it was a dark lighting and poor screen issue by what was described. I know I've gone to Cyrodiil before on terrible gfx settings, and everyone just looks like wandering blobs when you do that. I figured the same here. Either way, cool character. I'm a big fan of the ragada. I'm planning to make one when I get more character slots, but the hard choice for me is the class. The new Hurricane skill for sorcerers is tempting thematically, but the sorcerer class as a whole seems pretty abominable to standard Redguard culture. Besides, I suspect DK or NB would work best with the racials. The irony is I think Templar is probably closer to their culture.

Her looks are that of a Xhosa woman - a tribe in south africa - and so I gave her a Xhosa name even.

I tried to go with a Touareg look on the Redguard Templar guy in my sig (European Server). Alikir makes me think of West Africa a bit, mixed with some Egyptian elements, so that's what I went for.

waterfairy

Nobody gave my Nord negative comments about his mead gut and he's got a random thumbs up emote and flirt while standing in town

SirAndy

AhWellEveryone wrote: »

A fat Nord that goes by the name of Alphonse Gabriel Capone.

My long lost cousin!

Meet my Naked Nord:
Thorwald Titanborn, Dragon Knight

Azzuria

aidenmoore wrote: »

Playing as an Orc. I know how you feel. Stay strong. You're beautiful in the inside and that is what matter.

Orcs have all the sexy. Other races just borrow a bit.

Valor

I've had people ask me in Cyrodiil why my nightblade is rocking the miniskirt, I simply reply that it makes him look fant-ass-tic.

JollyGhost

Vigarr wrote: »

Nobody gave my Nord negative comments about his mead gut and he's got a random thumbs up emote and flirt while standing in town

I think it's my hairstyle.

SirAndy wrote: »

AhWellEveryone wrote: »

A fat Nord that goes by the name of Alphonse Gabriel Capone.

My long lost cousin!

Meet my Naked Nord:
Thorwald Titanborn, Dragon Knight

Hahah definitely

Zerok

Appleblade

I was toying with the idea of making the shortest, roundest DK possible for my next character.

If they get in trouble, just curl up into an armored ball and roll away like Samus from Metroid.

Mettaricana wrote: »

My altmer has been proposed to many times for he oddly hot looks

So... Is she still available?

waterfairy

Zerok wrote: »

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The angle of that shot makes him look like a giant.