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Champion rank CANNOT be displayed next to character and @name
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Even distributed points is not that useful, as you have no way of knowing where they were distributed. Someone with 300 points distributed one way may be way more or less powerful than someone who distributed them differently. That's why I think showing CPs is unnecessary; it doesn't tell you anything useful.There is no point in showing ALL champion points. Show only distributed chamption points, so it will be 501 max. 700+ dudes will just scare/confuse new players. There is no difference between 501 and 1501 atm.
ExactlyZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Thanks for the feedback on this, everyone! This is something we’re discussing internally as well, and will potentially be making some changes in a future incremental patch.
Ok so can we just go with a logic view. Players are level 50
NPCs are 49-56
Gear requirements....have ideas in my dig but it's off topic and related discussion-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Destyran✭✭✭✭✭Astanphaeus wrote: »I'm perfectly fine with this. We can all pretend that any v16 should be able to complete vMoL (and what I'm assuming vSO will be like), but considering only one base group has completed it, it's perfectly reasonable for a group to require a certain amount of CP to do it. And if people want to have a requirement, they will find a way to do it anyway. I've played with groups that required a screen shot of your CP. Yes, knowing your role is more important than CP in how well a person will do, but it is ridiculous to think that it can completely override the difference between 160CP and 350CP and it is not elitism to say as much.
People on console beat it a while ago too gotta score of 53 lol
Beat it again with a score of 42 they say the boss is broken and you have to burn him to skip broken mechanics or some shiz and i think its safe to say that butning his health is hard AFEdited by Destyran on May 4, 2016 11:08AM0 -
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✭I'd say just show CP earned until cap. Everything above doesn't add any value in terms of gameplay.PC/DC/NAserver
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✭✭✭✭✭Hopefully I dont offend anyone and people realise the importance of showing allocated cp. However, I do agree showing total CP has no purpose. 2000 CP when CP cap is 501 is kinda pointless information.
Interesting point.
Does the game allow the character to equip CP 160 gear if the player is Champion Rank 501 but the character only has 50 CP allocated?
Another interesting point is that the Level 1 - 49 characters show no indication of what the player level is. That Level 3 character could have 500 Champion Points allocated, or it could have none. I think that if they are going to display the player Champion Rank then it needs to be displayed for every character, no matter what level it is.
Otherwise, it should only display the allocated CP on that particular character.
Personally, I do not care what the player's level is. I am more interested in the character that is being played.
Edit... what I want to see is [Level X] [Champion Points] Name
50 [CP symbol] 320 Vangy
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32 [CP symbol] 320 Little VangyEdited by Elsonso on May 4, 2016 12:06PMXBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭What's the harm in showing CPs above 501?
They might not add anything in terms of gameplay, but atleast let me have my vanity <.<
Also, it's a nice gauge of how experienced a player is.
Beating someone with 1k+ CPs & beating someone with 500-600 is a different thing, despite the equality in character power.
Plus, it's going to be boring when you look at players & it shows "501 501 501 501 501 501 501 501 501" on like every player.2 -
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I would agree with that. If CP are going to be shown, then CP should be shown for all characters, not just those who are Level 50, since every character can use that account's CP. (But as I've said before, I would much rather they weren't shown at all.)lordrichter wrote: »Another interesting point is that the Level 1 - 49 characters show no indication of what the player level is. That Level 3 character could have 500 Champion Points allocated, or it could have none. I think that if they are going to display the player Champion Rank then it needs to be displayed for every character, no matter what level it is.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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Even distributed points is not that useful, as you have no way of knowing where they were distributed. Someone with 300 points distributed one way may be way more or less powerful than someone who distributed them differently. That's why I think showing CPs is unnecessary; it doesn't tell you anything useful.There is no point in showing ALL champion points. Show only distributed chamption points, so it will be 501 max. 700+ dudes will just scare/confuse new players. There is no difference between 501 and 1501 atm.
In the .01% of cases where someone with 300+ CP has them allocated the wrong way, sure it's pointless info. BUT in 99% of cases where a player with enough gumption to go and get 300+ CP (probably seen and learned a few things) IT IS useful information and the equivalent of showing your rank now.Guild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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Even distributed points is not that useful, as you have no way of knowing where they were distributed. Someone with 300 points distributed one way may be way more or less powerful than someone who distributed them differently. That's why I think showing CPs is unnecessary; it doesn't tell you anything useful.There is no point in showing ALL champion points. Show only distributed chamption points, so it will be 501 max. 700+ dudes will just scare/confuse new players. There is no difference between 501 and 1501 atm.
In the .01% of cases where someone with 300+ CP has them allocated the wrong way, sure it's pointless info. BUT in 99% of cases where a player with enough gumption to go and get 300+ CP (probably seen and learned a few things) IT IS useful information and the equivalent of showing your rank now.
That 0.1% is probably closer to 25% or more. Opinions will vary on what the best allocation is. If you mean "allocated like the smart people in the forum think it should be allocated" it might be closer to 50%.
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✭✭Bfish22090 wrote: »
XDXD hahaha
I had a 4 month break from eso, I never grinded cp, I never stress play. Doing pledges and weeklies only. sometimes pvp in cyro.
I have 645 cpPC, EU server, Ebonheart Pact
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✭lordrichter wrote: »
Even distributed points is not that useful, as you have no way of knowing where they were distributed. Someone with 300 points distributed one way may be way more or less powerful than someone who distributed them differently. That's why I think showing CPs is unnecessary; it doesn't tell you anything useful.There is no point in showing ALL champion points. Show only distributed chamption points, so it will be 501 max. 700+ dudes will just scare/confuse new players. There is no difference between 501 and 1501 atm.
In the .01% of cases where someone with 300+ CP has them allocated the wrong way, sure it's pointless info. BUT in 99% of cases where a player with enough gumption to go and get 300+ CP (probably seen and learned a few things) IT IS useful information and the equivalent of showing your rank now.
That 0.1% is probably closer to 25% or more. Opinions will vary on what the best allocation is. If you mean "allocated like the smart people in the forum think it should be allocated" it might be closer to 50%.
Come on, you honestly believe that 1 in 4 people with 300+ CP has them allocated in a way that doesn't benefit their build? You trollololin?Edited by Cuyler on May 4, 2016 2:55PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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This is a good example of the player separation issue that was caused by VRs that their removal should have alleviated. There are people who do not want constant reminders that they are not very efficient at gaining XP, they just want to be able to play a game they enjoy. Slapping these numbers all over the place just says "I'll never be as good as that player, so what's the point?", which is a mindset that should not exist when everyone is Level 50. CPs should be personal to you, as a way of marking your progression above Level 50. Unlike level, which directly influences your power, your CPs should only affect your adaptability, based on your chosen Champion passives, and that should be nobody else's business.Bfish22090 wrote: »UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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Daraugh✭✭✭✭✭Huh, the cp showing isn't even live yet and the e-peening and arguments on distribution have begun on the pts forum. How's that for meta-feedback on how it will go for live?May all beings have happiness
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This is a good example of the player separation issue that was caused by VRs that their removal should have alleviated. There are people who do not want constant reminders that they are not very efficient at gaining XP, they just want to be able to play a game they enjoy. Slapping these numbers all over the place just says "I'll never be as good as that player, so what's the point?", which is a mindset that should not exist when everyone is Level 50. CPs should be personal to you, as a way of marking your progression above Level 50. Unlike level, which directly influences your power, your CPs should only affect your adaptability, based on your chosen Champion passives, and that should be nobody else's business.Bfish22090 wrote: »
Yea I'll never have what other people have so we should all appear the same, just make all the costumes the same, gear look the same, level look the same. You realize how ridiculous this sounds?
But don't worry, ZOS will probably back you up.Edited by Cuyler on May 4, 2016 3:12PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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Dromede✭✭✭✭I actually don't mind showing off my CP... i mean, now that vr are out of the way, how would you know how new a player is?
I worked hard for my CP, and i'd like to be able to show it off, just like my armor that i took long time to craft and perfect.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
Hiding things that are not certain and have little value other than prejudice needs to not be displayed.Why do people want to hide things? People seem to be so against seeing CP, dps meters etc... If you are a bad player people will know you are a bad player even if they don't see your CP or dps numbers.
CP is not a character level for one
It's also not a determination of how strong, effective or any capability of a player.
Think of what plays not this...skill points, skill ranks, morphs, weapon, armor and skill line unlocks.
Cp has a potential to enhance certain things but then u would need to see stat PTS, skill PTS, skill rank, CP Passives, gear, enchants and all this just to get an idea of their capability.
Since none of that is happening showing CP only is there for prejudice.
Show 50 and maybe brackets for each 100 cp gained and move one.
And with the brackets....that's still questionable
I would support seeing more info on other characters. I'd be fine with an inspect option. It seems like a lot of people are super secretive though.
Agree with that so much! I used to play another game, MMO, in which you could inspect other characters - see what they wear in detail, browse through their achievements. I thought it was pretty cool, and it motivated me as a new player to get a better build, get certain armor styles that looked better than mine.
It's up to you what you make out of it. In general, noone cares about other players unless they are grouped up together and the group is underperforming.
There's far more benefits to it than disadvantages. Just think about it - next time you ask for advice on your build/skill morph in the guild chat - all you need to do is link your profile that shows your armor set, achievements, skills, stats (with options to hide some).Skye Cloude - Sorc DPS, Master Crafter. Main, the bestest
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✭b92303008rwb17_ESO wrote: »If CP rank is to be displayed, why not gear inspection and group dps meter as well?
I would not mind these things as well..... but that's just me.
Would be awesome if you guys at ZOS would put these mentioned things into the game. 1 -
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✭✭✭✭I actually don't mind showing off my CP... i mean, now that vr are out of the way, how would you know how new a player is?
I worked hard for my CP, and i'd like to be able to show it off, just like my armor that i took long time to craft and perfect.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
Hiding things that are not certain and have little value other than prejudice needs to not be displayed.Why do people want to hide things? People seem to be so against seeing CP, dps meters etc... If you are a bad player people will know you are a bad player even if they don't see your CP or dps numbers.
CP is not a character level for one
It's also not a determination of how strong, effective or any capability of a player.
Think of what plays not this...skill points, skill ranks, morphs, weapon, armor and skill line unlocks.
Cp has a potential to enhance certain things but then u would need to see stat PTS, skill PTS, skill rank, CP Passives, gear, enchants and all this just to get an idea of their capability.
Since none of that is happening showing CP only is there for prejudice.
Show 50 and maybe brackets for each 100 cp gained and move one.
And with the brackets....that's still questionable
I would support seeing more info on other characters. I'd be fine with an inspect option. It seems like a lot of people are super secretive though.
Agree with that so much! I used to play another game, MMO, in which you could inspect other characters - see what they wear in detail, browse through their achievements. I thought it was pretty cool, and it motivated me as a new player to get a better build, get certain armor styles that looked better than mine.
It's up to you what you make out of it. In general, noone cares about other players unless they are grouped up together and the group is underperforming.
There's far more benefits to it than disadvantages. Just think about it - next time you ask for advice on your build/skill morph in the guild chat - all you need to do is link your profile that shows your armor set, achievements, skills, stats (with options to hide some).
It's all very simple: make it optional.
Add to the settings:
Showcase Champion Points: Yes/No
Allow gear inspection: Yes/No
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Frawr✭✭✭✭✭I actually don't mind showing off my CP... i mean, now that vr are out of the way, how would you know how new a player is?
I worked hard for my CP, and i'd like to be able to show it off, just like my armor that i took long time to craft and perfect.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
Hiding things that are not certain and have little value other than prejudice needs to not be displayed.Why do people want to hide things? People seem to be so against seeing CP, dps meters etc... If you are a bad player people will know you are a bad player even if they don't see your CP or dps numbers.
CP is not a character level for one
It's also not a determination of how strong, effective or any capability of a player.
Think of what plays not this...skill points, skill ranks, morphs, weapon, armor and skill line unlocks.
Cp has a potential to enhance certain things but then u would need to see stat PTS, skill PTS, skill rank, CP Passives, gear, enchants and all this just to get an idea of their capability.
Since none of that is happening showing CP only is there for prejudice.
Show 50 and maybe brackets for each 100 cp gained and move one.
And with the brackets....that's still questionable
I would support seeing more info on other characters. I'd be fine with an inspect option. It seems like a lot of people are super secretive though.
Agree with that so much! I used to play another game, MMO, in which you could inspect other characters - see what they wear in detail, browse through their achievements. I thought it was pretty cool, and it motivated me as a new player to get a better build, get certain armor styles that looked better than mine.
It's up to you what you make out of it. In general, noone cares about other players unless they are grouped up together and the group is underperforming.
There's far more benefits to it than disadvantages. Just think about it - next time you ask for advice on your build/skill morph in the guild chat - all you need to do is link your profile that shows your armor set, achievements, skills, stats (with options to hide some).
It's all very simple: make it optional.
Add to the settings:
Showcase Champion Points: Yes/No
Allow gear inspection: Yes/No
Problem solved.
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I didn't say that at all. You (not you specifically, this is General "you") go ahead and enjoy the benefits of the passives gained by those 501+ CPs, you've earned them. But don't shove them in the face of those people who haven't, can't, don't or aren't able to have that many. They're here to enjoy the game just as much as you, and don't deserve to be sidelined in endgame content just because of some arbitrary number of passives you can use and they can't.
Yea I'll never have what other people have so we should all appear the same, just make all the costumes the same, gear look the same, level look the same. You realize how ridiculous this sounds?
This is a good example of the player separation issue that was caused by VRs that their removal should have alleviated. There are people who do not want constant reminders that they are not very efficient at gaining XP, they just want to be able to play a game they enjoy. Slapping these numbers all over the place just says "I'll never be as good as that player, so what's the point?", which is a mindset that should not exist when everyone is Level 50. CPs should be personal to you, as a way of marking your progression above Level 50. Unlike level, which directly influences your power, your CPs should only affect your adaptability, based on your chosen Champion passives, and that should be nobody else's business.Bfish22090 wrote: »UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭I actually don't mind showing off my CP... i mean, now that vr are out of the way, how would you know how new a player is?
I worked hard for my CP, and i'd like to be able to show it off, just like my armor that i took long time to craft and perfect.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
Hiding things that are not certain and have little value other than prejudice needs to not be displayed.Why do people want to hide things? People seem to be so against seeing CP, dps meters etc... If you are a bad player people will know you are a bad player even if they don't see your CP or dps numbers.
CP is not a character level for one
It's also not a determination of how strong, effective or any capability of a player.
Think of what plays not this...skill points, skill ranks, morphs, weapon, armor and skill line unlocks.
Cp has a potential to enhance certain things but then u would need to see stat PTS, skill PTS, skill rank, CP Passives, gear, enchants and all this just to get an idea of their capability.
Since none of that is happening showing CP only is there for prejudice.
Show 50 and maybe brackets for each 100 cp gained and move one.
And with the brackets....that's still questionable
I would support seeing more info on other characters. I'd be fine with an inspect option. It seems like a lot of people are super secretive though.
Agree with that so much! I used to play another game, MMO, in which you could inspect other characters - see what they wear in detail, browse through their achievements. I thought it was pretty cool, and it motivated me as a new player to get a better build, get certain armor styles that looked better than mine.
It's up to you what you make out of it. In general, noone cares about other players unless they are grouped up together and the group is underperforming.
There's far more benefits to it than disadvantages. Just think about it - next time you ask for advice on your build/skill morph in the guild chat - all you need to do is link your profile that shows your armor set, achievements, skills, stats (with options to hide some).
It's all very simple: make it optional.
Add to the settings:
Showcase Champion Points: Yes/No
Allow gear inspection: Yes/No
Problem solved.
I do believe at a bare minimal I do deserve to know everyone's level in my group if we are doing group content. That just like saying I only have a AA degree and is going for a job that requires the skill-set of someone with a MA degree. So in order to get hired I should be able to hide my degree from everyone including the recruiter.
What I can honestly see being happening if ZOS don't show the CP of everyone in the group, doing CP160 vICP and vWGT such hard tier'ed content is people with like 40CPs or 50CPs trying to get into a group of players. Only to wipe 10 to 15 times before people start asking questions about who is not pulling their weight so they can either kick that person or leave.
All that showing CPs does is allows you the player to make a somewhat informed decision on, whether or not you want to run with them or not before wasting time pointlessly. I see no problem with this? Why is this even a issue to begin with, it's just blow my mind that it is.1 -
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GeertKarel✭✭✭Astanphaeus wrote: »I'm perfectly fine with this. We can all pretend that any v16 should be able to complete vMoL (and what I'm assuming vSO will be like), but considering only one base group has completed it, it's perfectly reasonable for a group to require a certain amount of CP to do it. And if people want to have a requirement, they will find a way to do it anyway. I've played with groups that required a screen shot of your CP. Yes, knowing your role is more important than CP in how well a person will do, but it is ridiculous to think that it can completely override the difference between 160CP and 350CP and it is not elitism to say as much.
People on console beat it a while ago too gotta score of 53 lol
Beat it again with a score of 42 they say the boss is broken and you have to burn him to skip broken mechanics or some shiz and i think its safe to say that butning his health is hard AF
it has now been fixed the synergy phase, if you can find it in the patch notes today.Server: EU Pact
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This is a good example of the player separation issue that was caused by VRs that their removal should have alleviated. There are people who do not want constant reminders that they are not very efficient at gaining XP, they just want to be able to play a game they enjoy. Slapping these numbers all over the place just says "I'll never be as good as that player, so what's the point?", which is a mindset that should not exist when everyone is Level 50. CPs should be personal to you, as a way of marking your progression above Level 50. Unlike level, which directly influences your power, your CPs should only affect your adaptability, based on your chosen Champion passives, and that should be nobody else's business.Bfish22090 wrote: »
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✭✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »
Even distributed points is not that useful, as you have no way of knowing where they were distributed. Someone with 300 points distributed one way may be way more or less powerful than someone who distributed them differently. That's why I think showing CPs is unnecessary; it doesn't tell you anything useful.There is no point in showing ALL champion points. Show only distributed chamption points, so it will be 501 max. 700+ dudes will just scare/confuse new players. There is no difference between 501 and 1501 atm.
In the .01% of cases where someone with 300+ CP has them allocated the wrong way, sure it's pointless info. BUT in 99% of cases where a player with enough gumption to go and get 300+ CP (probably seen and learned a few things) IT IS useful information and the equivalent of showing your rank now.
That 0.1% is probably closer to 25% or more. Opinions will vary on what the best allocation is. If you mean "allocated like the smart people in the forum think it should be allocated" it might be closer to 50%.
Come on, you honestly believe that 1 in 4 people with 300+ CP has them allocated in a way that doesn't benefit their build? You trollololin?
No, I think most do have the CPs allocated in a way that benefits their build. My point is that we might not all agree at what benefits their build best.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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Elephant42✭✭✭✭I agree with a few previous posters who think that the CP displayed should be the CP that you've allocated, not your total CP.
It solves most of the problems posted here, (if you're friends feel behind, use less CP!), if raid guilds require a certain level, they'll know the CP that everyone's actually applied (applied well is a horse of a different color). If you're worried about seeing a massive level difference between new players and long-time frequent players, 10-501 is somewhat better than 10-1xxx. If you don't want the world to see that you've spent way too much time in the game, problem solved as well.
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✭✭✭✭✭There is literally no value in displaying Cp. it's great for you to see your own but it's the absolute worse piece of misinformation.
The whole point of removing VR was to remove VR. That's any post 50 level indicators too.
IF ZOS really wants to display something, then use level 50-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »There is literally no value in displaying Cp. it's great for you to see your own but it's the absolute worse piece of misinformation.
The whole point of removing VR was to remove VR. That's any post 50 level indicators too.
IF ZOS really wants to display something, then use level 50
Oh, there is value in displaying champion points. There is just no value in displaying more than is spent on the character.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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✭✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »There is literally no value in displaying Cp. it's great for you to see your own but it's the absolute worse piece of misinformation.
The whole point of removing VR was to remove VR. That's any post 50 level indicators too.
IF ZOS really wants to display something, then use level 50
Oh, there is value in displaying champion points. There is just no value in displaying more than is spent on the character.
I disagree.
The only value is if instead of displaying a CP number used, you could inspect the actual CP Passives in use.
The number has no value and only will cause assumptions and produce a cookie cutter build or you get excluded.
The whole point of the CP system is now pointless. To give players opportunity to freely make choices to diversify or further enhance their characters is out the window as difficulty is based on CP assignment now.
This is far worse than the VR system
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