Finally, Character Slots! But...

Conquistador · April 2016

wait, what??

Lysette · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

It's simple, I do not need another character, but I would buy another slot, if it would have a reasonable price. I have not made up my mind yet though, what is reasonable.

I's say 1000 crowns would work fine. I'd pay that,or even 1500 crowns,but no more than that.

There is an alternative to this - just buy a new account on sale for 22€ - 8 slots, no extras, and just play the game plain, bank space and such just paid with gold. Experience the game as it was originally meant to be played. Never buying anything from the crown store. A totally separate game - if I want bling, I play the first account, if I don't the second one.

A lot of that crown store stuff I have is nice - but I do not need it really. I have this account with this stuff, and I can enjoy it, if I want to. But on the other side, it is asset which I have to care for. I do not really need that. My first account can perfectly support the second one and that one is just enjoying, not crafting nor anythign of that, So I do not need to subscribe.

So basically, I can have 8 slots for 22€ on sale - that is about 3500 crowns - so one slot costs me not even 400 crowns this way. Without all the bling and glitter of my first account. I kind of like the idea, to be free from all this asset and just play to have fun. What I need to store, can be stored on the first account, for all other I have enough space on the second for free.

So yes, maybe 1000 or 1500 crowns for a slot - that is generous of me - if they don't comply, then I'll buy a second account.

I play the game as I have since the first betas.So,I dont get what you mean. I simply said the prices I would and would not pay.Nothing about needing more slots myself. I do have a few things from the crown store,but not a lot.I do upgrades on my mounts occasionally,but that's pretty much it.
I play the game with a few mods lately,but in the beginning,I used none at all.I was fine with it that way.
So,from my comment,your reply to mine is kinda odd.

Nah, it isn't really - I was pondering with the price range you offered - and was giving my thoughts about this price range actually. It was not meant as a suggestion to you, but just how I get to the same conclusion about your price range.

Edit: and when I consider price ranges, I have to explore alternatives, which provide me as well with character slots. I have to consider advantages and disadvantages of it and how they effect me. I was just pondering those ideas seen from my perspective - and I came to a price of 450 crowns per slot plain, when I consider those both outfits I would have to buy twice it is 650 crowns - so 1000 to 1500 crowns, like you said, would be acceptable for the advantage to be able to use all the stuff I already have, even I do just need 2 of those.

Well,ok,I might go up to 2000 crowns,but not more. To make things way high priced isnt always conducive to profit. Give a good price and people will buy.With the topic.they'll buy over and over if it isnt too pricey.The assistants arent going that well,both due to their limitations AND their heavy prices.

It really depends how many slots I actually want and how many are allowed to add - my guess is, it will be 2 or 3 more. Now let's think about what I might do with those slots. I have no character which would be Dragonknight or Templar, so these are classes to explore. And if I want to do that with several races, well then I might hit a wall, and a second account would be better.

Elsonso · April 2016

I will guess that they will be expensive enough to justify getting 8 of them... by buying a copy of the game.

Lysette · April 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

I will guess that they will be expensive enough to justify getting 8 of them... by buying a copy of the game.

That is my guess as well and why I consider this actually

Volkodav · April 2016

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

It's simple, I do not need another character, but I would buy another slot, if it would have a reasonable price. I have not made up my mind yet though, what is reasonable.

I's say 1000 crowns would work fine. I'd pay that,or even 1500 crowns,but no more than that.

There is an alternative to this - just buy a new account on sale for 22€ - 8 slots, no extras, and just play the game plain, bank space and such just paid with gold. Experience the game as it was originally meant to be played. Never buying anything from the crown store. A totally separate game - if I want bling, I play the first account, if I don't the second one.

A lot of that crown store stuff I have is nice - but I do not need it really. I have this account with this stuff, and I can enjoy it, if I want to. But on the other side, it is asset which I have to care for. I do not really need that. My first account can perfectly support the second one and that one is just enjoying, not crafting nor anythign of that, So I do not need to subscribe.

So basically, I can have 8 slots for 22€ on sale - that is about 3500 crowns - so one slot costs me not even 400 crowns this way. Without all the bling and glitter of my first account. I kind of like the idea, to be free from all this asset and just play to have fun. What I need to store, can be stored on the first account, for all other I have enough space on the second for free.

So yes, maybe 1000 or 1500 crowns for a slot - that is generous of me - if they don't comply, then I'll buy a second account.

I play the game as I have since the first betas.So,I dont get what you mean. I simply said the prices I would and would not pay.Nothing about needing more slots myself. I do have a few things from the crown store,but not a lot.I do upgrades on my mounts occasionally,but that's pretty much it.
I play the game with a few mods lately,but in the beginning,I used none at all.I was fine with it that way.
So,from my comment,your reply to mine is kinda odd.

Nah, it isn't really - I was pondering with the price range you offered - and was giving my thoughts about this price range actually. It was not meant as a suggestion to you, but just how I get to the same conclusion about your price range.

Edit: and when I consider price ranges, I have to explore alternatives, which provide me as well with character slots. I have to consider advantages and disadvantages of it and how they effect me. I was just pondering those ideas seen from my perspective - and I came to a price of 450 crowns per slot plain, when I consider those both outfits I would have to buy twice it is 650 crowns - so 1000 to 1500 crowns, like you said, would be acceptable for the advantage to be able to use all the stuff I already have, even I do just need 2 of those.

Well,ok,I might go up to 2000 crowns,but not more. To make things way high priced isnt always conducive to profit. Give a good price and people will buy.With the topic.they'll buy over and over if it isnt too pricey.The assistants arent going that well,both due to their limitations AND their heavy prices.

It really depends how many slots I actually want and how many are allowed to add - my guess is, it will be 2 or 3 more. Now let's think about what I might do with those slots. I have no character which would be Dragonknight or Templar, so these are classes to explore. And if I want to do that with several races, well then I might hit a wall, and a second account would be better.

As I mentioned in the other reply to you,I do like the idea of a second account. I dont need one,but the options to add different races to different classes is intriguing.Plus exploring ways to change up the skills and points.

Volkodav · April 2016

Lysette wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

I will guess that they will be expensive enough to justify getting 8 of them... by buying a copy of the game.

That is my guess as well and why I consider this actually

How do you go about getting a second account anyway? Do I have to buy the base game again for $59.00? Or just another monthly? Wont it reflect my credit card and that I already have an account with that card?

Lysette · April 2016

Elder_III wrote: »

I'm ready and waiting to buy ~8 right off the bat. I might buy more down the road too (provided I don't leave for greener pastures). I've been begging for this since Beta and am overjoyed that it's finally confirmed and also annoyed that it took so long to do the obvious.

As for other accounts I do have 3 accounts, but since the arrival of the Champion system it's rather a waste of time to try to actively play on more then one account (aside from storage).

If I would be interested into the champion system, you would be right, but I will most likely never get any near to that, because I am playing much too slow. I am not interested into end game content whatsoever. If I want pvp, I go to a game, where pvp has purpose and meaning, EVE. I am not interested into the pointless pvp in ESO, which does not have any impact on the game nor meaning to the rest of the game world. So my considerations are based on different evaluations.

Lysette · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

I will guess that they will be expensive enough to justify getting 8 of them... by buying a copy of the game.

That is my guess as well and why I consider this actually

How do you go about getting a second account anyway? Do I have to buy the base game again for $59.00? Or just another monthly? Wont it reflect my credit card and that I already have an account with that card?

Afaik, you create a new account by buying the copy - I would buy it on sale, for 22€ though, I am not willing to pay full price, when it is available once in a while for 22€. Like I said, I do not really need new slots, so I can wait for the sale.

Edit: I have a bunch of emails, so I use one of those like a new customer and i am anyway paying with pre-paid systems, never use a credit card on the internet by many reasons and especially not with a gaming company. I have to care for a proper and clean reputation with my bank - I do not want them to think I am gambling.

TheValkyn · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

I will guess that they will be expensive enough to justify getting 8 of them... by buying a copy of the game.

That is my guess as well and why I consider this actually

How do you go about getting a second account anyway? Do I have to buy the base game again for $59.00? Or just another monthly? Wont it reflect my credit card and that I already have an account with that card?

If you're buying the game for $59 then you're doing it wrong. The game is not even worth $11 USD anymore. I've seen it as low as $3.

HoloYoitsu · April 2016

I can literally buy the base game for $10, if character slots are more than that I will promptly lmao into the sunset and keep my money.

Conquistador · April 2016

Where is the news about more character slots?

Lysette · April 2016

Conquistador wrote: »

Where is the news about more character slots?

The big blue banner in the forums header, click the link there.

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Yeah it isn't gonna be THAT cheap. I expect at least 2500 for 1 slot. After all they sold assistants for 5k each...

That's a bit pricey. The assistant prices were just bad, particularly when we can fairly assume they'll come up with alternatives which may suit each of us esthetically better. I'm holding back on assistants purely for the reason of esthetics. I want to have a selection before I give them 50 dollars for the convenience of an assistant. I'm still boggled by this pricing choice, and can only assume it was used to make everything else look cheap.

Lysette · April 2016

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Yeah it isn't gonna be THAT cheap. I expect at least 2500 for 1 slot. After all they sold assistants for 5k each...

That's a bit pricey. The assistant prices were just bad, particularly when we can fairly assume they'll come up with alternatives which may suit each of us esthetically better. I'm holding back on assistants purely for the reason of esthetics. I want to have a selection before I give them 50 dollars for the convenience of an assistant. I'm still boggled by this pricing choice, and can only assume it was used to make everything else look cheap.

It is not even convenient at all - you cannot access your guild store or the guild bank. The merchant does not sell repair kits. So actually you will have to go to a normal bank or a normal merchant anyway. There is no point in having these assistants other than bragging rights.

Waseem · April 2016

write your expectation for extra character slot here:
_____________
multiple by 3:
_____________ <- thats the price of extra character slot
you may find it costing you more than buying ESO game client (18-20$ on resellers) but well.. live with it

Lysette · April 2016

Hm, given that I have ESO+ on my account and DLC access with it, a slot might be worth a bit more that what I considered. This is a tricky thing to decide what is reasonable. It really depends on what I want to do with those new characters. If I just want to play around with them and not seriously play them for a longer time, than a 2nd account is not bad. But what if I start to like them and one of them becomes my main?- This happened to me in other games, that I abandoned my main and went with some other character, who just got me interested into playing that character as my main.

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2016

I think the people who are mentioning some skyrocket prices on character slots aren't comparing this game to other competitors out there. I just don't see ZoS asking us to pay $50/character or anything near that, when the competitors don't even come close to that. Its like Burger King one day getting a wild hair and deciding they want to charge $50.00 for the Royale with Cheese, 'just cuz'. Some idiots (or starving people) will probably pay the $50.00 but most people will go across the street to the mom and pop sandwich shop or Taco Bell - food for thought.

Seraseth · April 2016

Price of character slots in other MMO's I've played for comparison:

SWTOR - $6.60~
EQ2 - $10
GW2 - $10
Wildstar - <$5
Neverwinter - 2 slots for $5

Volkodav · April 2016

TheValkyn wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

I will guess that they will be expensive enough to justify getting 8 of them... by buying a copy of the game.

That is my guess as well and why I consider this actually

How do you go about getting a second account anyway? Do I have to buy the base game again for $59.00? Or just another monthly? Wont it reflect my credit card and that I already have an account with that card?

If you're buying the game for $59 then you're doing it wrong. The game is not even worth $11 USD anymore. I've seen it as low as $3.

I bought the game when it first came out,so it was $59.00 THEN.No,I didnt do it wrong.It was the only way to buy it before the game was even out yet.

notimetocare · April 2016

I will actually be surprised to see slots fro more than 1500. They know for a fact they will get tons of sales if its affordable. The only reason I could see it being expensive is if its 1 or 2 extra slots.

Lysette · April 2016

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

I think the people who are mentioning some skyrocket prices on character slots aren't comparing this game to other competitors out there. I just don't see ZoS asking us to pay $50/character or anything near that, when the competitors don't even come close to that. Its like Burger King one day getting a wild hair and deciding they want to charge $50.00 for the Royale with Cheese, 'just cuz'. Some idiots (or starving people) will probably pay the $50.00 but most people will go across the street to the mom and pop sandwich shop or Taco Bell - food for thought.

That is if you assume them to be reasonable - but so far I see no evidence for that.

phaneub17_ESO · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

We need an increased bank space so we won't need more bank storing chars at least for this particular reason.

You can buy an upgrade to your bank space already for 1000 crowns.For 10 spaces.Not bad.

I would only do that if it's the very last two upgrades, doing it for the lower ranks is just folly.

phaneub17_ESO · April 2016

Seraseth wrote: »

Price of character slots in other MMO's I've played for comparison:

SWTOR - $6.60~
EQ2 - $10
GW2 - $10
Wildstar - <$5
Neverwinter - 2 slots for $5

Final Fantasy XI, $1 dollar... per month.

Volkodav · April 2016

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

We need an increased bank space so we won't need more bank storing chars at least for this particular reason.

You can buy an upgrade to your bank space already for 1000 crowns.For 10 spaces.Not bad.

I would only do that if it's the very last two upgrades, doing it for the lower ranks is just folly.

Why is it folly to upgrade your bank slots with a lower level char?
It's account wide,so it is there for all characters.It isnt folly at all.Just preference.I prefer to pay 1000 crowns to upgrade my bank rather than to pay constantly raised pricing to do it ingame.I mean,at one point I had to pay 50,000g for just 10 slots.And that's a bit much for me.I did pay it due to not having any crowns at the moment,but I wont pay the even higher price next time.So,it's crown upgrades for me.

Lysette · April 2016

The trouble with crowns - like with any artificial form of currency - is, that people forget about what that stuff is worth. 1000 crowns equal about 6.37€ with the 5500 crowns pack, more with the others. I think that 10 bank spaces are not worth 6.37€. It is not a high price, absolutely seen, but relative to what you get it is far too expensive. Storage costs pretty much nothing nowadays and we just "rent" it for the time we are playing the game. This is as well heavily overpriced.

Moonscythe · April 2016

I was thinking that I don't need them but then I looked at my line-up and realized that I have only one character that could be deleted in favor of a redo. I have the first character I ever made sitting there holding all the stuff I don't need yet so it doesn't fill up the bank. I have 3 active mains, one in each alliance. The other 3 are crafters. The enchant/alchemist is working out great and I don't want to lose her. The other 2 are the provisioner who has learned all the recipes and I don't want to start over. The clothing/woodworking/blacksmith is the one learning traits and I really don't want to start over with her even though she isn't all that successful as a character. If I could transfer my research to a different character I would be good to go but otherwise, I can see myself wanting an extra character slot.

Volkodav · April 2016

Lysette wrote: »

The trouble with crowns - like with any artificial form of currency - is, that people forget about what that stuff is worth. 1000 crowns equal about 6.37€ with the 5500 crowns pack, more with the others. I think that 10 bank spaces are not worth 6.37€. It is not a high price, absolutely seen, but relative to what you get it is far too expensive. Storage costs pretty much nothing nowadays and we just "rent" it for the time we are playing the game. This is as well heavily overpriced.

Since I sub,the crowns dont cost me a thing though.

phaneub17_ESO · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

We need an increased bank space so we won't need more bank storing chars at least for this particular reason.

You can buy an upgrade to your bank space already for 1000 crowns.For 10 spaces.Not bad.

I would only do that if it's the very last two upgrades, doing it for the lower ranks is just folly.

Why is it folly to upgrade your bank slots with a lower level char?
It's account wide,so it is there for all characters.It isnt folly at all.Just preference.I prefer to pay 1000 crowns to upgrade my bank rather than to pay constantly raised pricing to do it ingame.I mean,at one point I had to pay 50,000g for just 10 slots.And that's a bit much for me.I did pay it due to not having any crowns at the moment,but I wont pay the even higher price next time.So,it's crown upgrades for me.

So you would pay 1000 Crowns when the bank upgrade costs 3300g?

Volkodav · April 2016

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

We need an increased bank space so we won't need more bank storing chars at least for this particular reason.

You can buy an upgrade to your bank space already for 1000 crowns.For 10 spaces.Not bad.

I would only do that if it's the very last two upgrades, doing it for the lower ranks is just folly.

Why is it folly to upgrade your bank slots with a lower level char?
It's account wide,so it is there for all characters.It isnt folly at all.Just preference.I prefer to pay 1000 crowns to upgrade my bank rather than to pay constantly raised pricing to do it ingame.I mean,at one point I had to pay 50,000g for just 10 slots.And that's a bit much for me.I did pay it due to not having any crowns at the moment,but I wont pay the even higher price next time.So,it's crown upgrades for me.

So you would pay 1000 Crowns when the bank upgrade costs 3300g?

Yes,because it is cheaper.Ingame,you dont pay just 33000 in gold.It keeps going up for every time you buy 10 slots.At first,it's 400g,then 2000g,then more and more as you go. I just paid 50,000 gold for my latest upgrade,but I really needed it for some things I want to keep.I didnt happen to have any more crowns at the time,so I just paid it ingame. I wont do it again.

Lysette · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

The trouble with crowns - like with any artificial form of currency - is, that people forget about what that stuff is worth. 1000 crowns equal about 6.37€ with the 5500 crowns pack, more with the others. I think that 10 bank spaces are not worth 6.37€. It is not a high price, absolutely seen, but relative to what you get it is far too expensive. Storage costs pretty much nothing nowadays and we just "rent" it for the time we are playing the game. This is as well heavily overpriced.

Since I sub,the crowns dont cost me a thing though.

That reminds me of those people in EVE who think "self-mined ore is free" - while it fact there are calculatoric costs with those, they could sell them for money instead to craft with those, so this ore costs them exactly the same as buying those. they just don't have to pay, but their costs are the same.