Finally, Character Slots! But...

rotaugen454

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Zeni is selling crafting book that cost more then the game you think this we be a cheap or reasonable price?

That's because they know people who "have to have every crafting style" will pay a lot for the rare ones.

idk

500-1000 crowns for an additional character slot is fairly cheap. It should be at least the equivalent of 8-10 usd at minimum. Many many players would buy them.

At that, the only mistake Zos is correcting with this was not offering this for sale earlier. 8 character slots for starters is just fine.

Elsonso

Sallington wrote: »

There's no way these will be less than 5k crowns

I could see this, if they wanted to limit the amount, were looking for a cash grab, or just wanted to be punative.

At that point, the obvious answer is multiple accounts. Join a guild with like minded friends and use the guild bank. Otherwise, mail and account jumping.

I have not used half of my available character slots on PC, although I am full on PS4, so no pressure for me to buy if they are too expensive.

They would be silly to price it that high, though.

idk

lordrichter wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

There's no way these will be less than 5k crowns

I could see this, if they wanted to limit the amount, were looking for a cash grab, or just wanted to be punative.

At that point, the obvious answer is multiple accounts. Join a guild with like minded friends and use the guild bank. Otherwise, mail and account jumping.

I have not used half of my available character slots on PC, although I am full on PS4, so no pressure for me to buy if they are too expensive.

They would be silly to price it that high, though.

Incorrect. 5k crowns is very reasonable. Additionally, Zos doesn't expect you to purchase more slots since you clearly do not need them. Players wanting another slot will buy them and will spend 5k crowns for one.

Lysette

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

There's no way these will be less than 5k crowns

I could see this, if they wanted to limit the amount, were looking for a cash grab, or just wanted to be punative.

At that point, the obvious answer is multiple accounts. Join a guild with like minded friends and use the guild bank. Otherwise, mail and account jumping.

I have not used half of my available character slots on PC, although I am full on PS4, so no pressure for me to buy if they are too expensive.

They would be silly to price it that high, though.

Incorrect. 5k crowns is very reasonable. Additionally, Zos doesn't expect you to purchase more slots since you clearly do not need them. Players wanting another slot will buy them and will spend 5k crowns for one.

Well my gaming money will move back to EVE online, if they do that - they will not make more business with me.

idk

Lysette wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

There's no way these will be less than 5k crowns

I could see this, if they wanted to limit the amount, were looking for a cash grab, or just wanted to be punative.

At that point, the obvious answer is multiple accounts. Join a guild with like minded friends and use the guild bank. Otherwise, mail and account jumping.

I have not used half of my available character slots on PC, although I am full on PS4, so no pressure for me to buy if they are too expensive.

They would be silly to price it that high, though.

Incorrect. 5k crowns is very reasonable. Additionally, Zos doesn't expect you to purchase more slots since you clearly do not need them. Players wanting another slot will buy them and will spend 5k crowns for one.

Well my gaming money will move back to EVE online, if they do that - they will not make more business with me.

Sounds great.

You see, there is this whole business analysis thing that goes on to help price these things. It's OBVIOUS that Zos has done well pricing items since sales are rare and usually reflect a Holliday and such.

More importantly, when a customer threatens to take their business elsewhere because you priced something reasonably the response should be CYA and don't let the door hit you . . .

Businesses do not bow to threats.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

rotaugen454 wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Zeni is selling crafting book that cost more then the game you think this we be a cheap or reasonable price?

That's because they know people who "have to have every crafting style" will pay a lot for the rare ones.

Or cause they don't have enough Subs and they need to milk what ever cow they have.

hrothbern

MasterSpatula wrote: »

They're adding character slots at the same time they're adding crafting bags and reducing the need for mules. The irony is delicious.

I think that it was fair of ZOS to do that at the same time, catering subbers and non-subbers at the same moment.

If you want more inventory
[*] you can sub for the crafting bag (in case you weren't subbing already)
[*] you can spend some crowns for more mules

And people who want it all can do as they please.

Lysette

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

There's no way these will be less than 5k crowns

I could see this, if they wanted to limit the amount, were looking for a cash grab, or just wanted to be punative.

At that point, the obvious answer is multiple accounts. Join a guild with like minded friends and use the guild bank. Otherwise, mail and account jumping.

I have not used half of my available character slots on PC, although I am full on PS4, so no pressure for me to buy if they are too expensive.

They would be silly to price it that high, though.

Incorrect. 5k crowns is very reasonable. Additionally, Zos doesn't expect you to purchase more slots since you clearly do not need them. Players wanting another slot will buy them and will spend 5k crowns for one.

Well my gaming money will move back to EVE online, if they do that - they will not make more business with me.

Sounds great.

You see, there is this whole business analysis thing that goes on to help price these things. It's OBVIOUS that Zos has done well pricing items since sales are rare and usually reflect a Holliday and such.

More importantly, when a customer threatens to take their business elsewhere because you priced something reasonably the response should be CYA and don't let the door hit you . . .

Businesses do not bow to threats.

this is not a threat nor am I going to leave, I will just not buy anything from the crown store again, if they continue to show that extreme amount of greed. I am just not feeling good about supporting this any longer. I would rather give that money to charity or burn it, this would let me feel good again or at least not bad.

Nebthet78

Frankly, I would hope they would keep the prices in line to 500-800 Crown Points per character slot. Anything more than that, and I might as well just go out and buy another account when it goes on sale, especially with the CP catch up mechanics.

sekou_trayvond

If there was a new class to play I'd be more excited/interested.

Sallington

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

There's no way these will be less than 5k crowns

I could see this, if they wanted to limit the amount, were looking for a cash grab, or just wanted to be punative.

At that point, the obvious answer is multiple accounts. Join a guild with like minded friends and use the guild bank. Otherwise, mail and account jumping.

I have not used half of my available character slots on PC, although I am full on PS4, so no pressure for me to buy if they are too expensive.

They would be silly to price it that high, though.

Incorrect. 5k crowns is very reasonable. Additionally, Zos doesn't expect you to purchase more slots since you clearly do not need them. Players wanting another slot will buy them and will spend 5k crowns for one.

Well my gaming money will move back to EVE online, if they do that - they will not make more business with me.

Sounds great.

You see, there is this whole business analysis thing that goes on to help price these things. It's OBVIOUS that Zos has done well pricing items since sales are rare and usually reflect a Holliday and such.

More importantly, when a customer threatens to take their business elsewhere because you priced something reasonably the response should be CYA and don't let the door hit you . . .

Businesses do not bow to threats.

Yeah, what kind of crappy game company would listen to complaints and customer feedback?

I'll agree though, there's obviously enough whales buying up everything they can for ZOS to keep their pricing where it is.

Seraseth

Considering every other game I looked up was in the $5-10 range, if ZOS is charging more than 1000-1500 crowns per slot, I'll just get a second account on sale sometime and make all my mules over there. Free's up all 8 slots for real characters, and with addons, easy to send stuff back and forth through the mail.

Moonshadow66

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Frankly, I would hope they would keep the prices in line to 500-800 Crown Points per character slot. Anything more than that, and I might as well just go out and buy another account when it goes on sale, especially with the CP catch up mechanics.

This.
Well, except that the catch up mechanic doesn't include researching items and motifs, unfortunately, so I guess I'll stick to my main account and only buy new slots if not too expensive^^

Elder_III

@ZOS_GinaBruno Could you tell us how much the Character Slots are going to be? Right now on PTS they are only 1 Crown (which I understand for PTS purposes and that's fine). However it would be very nice to know how much they will be when the DLC goes live at the end of May. Unless the price has not been decided by the powers that be I can't think of a reason to not let us know....? If there is going to be an article or news release with this information prior to release?

Also, please enjoy the cake for putting up with us on these forums.

Korah_Eaglecry

Four more characters means four more mount purchases. Thats four more characters to upgrade Speed, Stamina and Carry. Thats more bag space purchases and possible costumes and personalities purchases. Heck I might decide to grab a hat or two.

And I havent even purchased the senche for my Khajiit, a camel for my Redguard or a bear for my Orc yet.

Acrolas

You're limited to four new slots. If they were really expensive to the point where people struggled to buy one or two, then the limit would not exist.

NewBlacksmurf

Character slots shouldn't be more than 1-2k as its a slot. Nothing crazy.
I think ppl concepts of real money don't relate when they throw out crown suggestions. 5k in crowns is $40 folks.

1500 is $15
1,000 crowns if u buy the 1500 or two 750's is definately more than normal.

To be honest all the motif and stuff should be 750 crowns.
The only things that should exceed 750 are DLC which should range from 1,000 - 2500.
$15 - $25 doe DLC is normal and for huge expansions $40 or 5k in crowns.

Elsonso

Elder_III wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Could you tell us how much the Character Slots are going to be?

My thought is that they have not decided and are waiting to see what people say they will pay. They will charge something more than that.

notimetocare

MornaBaine wrote: »

I will be really annoyed if it's more than 1.000 per slot. Seriously. If they want to make money on the crown shop they need to FILL IT UP with all the tings people have been BEGGING for on the thread they started just to ask us what we want...and yet have hardly fulfilled a single request while putting out thing after thing that no one asked for.

Why so cheap, Im sure the RP crowd wants these mroe... 5k for crafting motif, 5k per character slot (actually I anticipate 5k for 4 slots, seems like logical math)

MornaBaine

As someone with 2 accounts the only thing that sucks about it is the lack of dyes on my secondary account. If I could buy dyes I'd be in heaven. lol Of course not having hardly any CP on my secondary account is also a drag. But being able to use it for bank alts, mailing stuff during dungeons when my inventory is full, making characters for roles in RP where they are "red shirts" or some other temporary plot device is well worth it.

And the blasted truth is, I'll probably buy the 4 slots for BOTH accounts! LOL

Blackbird71

Seraseth wrote: »

Price of character slots in other MMO's I've played for comparison:

SWTOR - $6.60~
EQ2 - $10
GW2 - $10
Wildstar - <$5
Neverwinter - 2 slots for $5

If ESO prices character slots at the equivalent of $10, I might be willing to buy one or two.

If it were $5, I could easily buy as many as eight (assuming that the account limit allows such). It's easier to justify spending more when you feel you are getting a worthwhile value for what you spend.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

There's no way these will be less than 5k crowns

I could see this, if they wanted to limit the amount, were looking for a cash grab, or just wanted to be punative.

At that point, the obvious answer is multiple accounts. Join a guild with like minded friends and use the guild bank. Otherwise, mail and account jumping.

I have not used half of my available character slots on PC, although I am full on PS4, so no pressure for me to buy if they are too expensive.

They would be silly to price it that high, though.

Incorrect. 5k crowns is very reasonable. Additionally, Zos doesn't expect you to purchase more slots since you clearly do not need them. Players wanting another slot will buy them and will spend 5k crowns for one.

There is no universe in which 5k crowns for one character slot is reasonable. For that price, I could wait for the next sale and buy two copies of the game and get 16 new character slots. The convenience of having all characters on one account only goes so far, and a price like that would absolutely break it. It's all about the opportunity cost.

Volkodav

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

The trouble with crowns - like with any artificial form of currency - is, that people forget about what that stuff is worth. 1000 crowns equal about 6.37€ with the 5500 crowns pack, more with the others. I think that 10 bank spaces are not worth 6.37€. It is not a high price, absolutely seen, but relative to what you get it is far too expensive. Storage costs pretty much nothing nowadays and we just "rent" it for the time we are playing the game. This is as well heavily overpriced.

Since I sub,the crowns dont cost me a thing though.

That reminds me of those people in EVE who think "self-mined ore is free" - while it fact there are calculatoric costs with those, they could sell them for money instead to craft with those, so this ore costs them exactly the same as buying those. they just don't have to pay, but their costs are the same.

That's rather convoluted there,Lysette. It still stands that the game I pay for each month gives my money back to me in crowns.So I use the money/crowns for bank space upgrades.In essence,I get one or the other for free.Either the game play,or the crowns.Doesnt matter.

Divinius

Blackbird71 wrote: »

There is no universe in which 5k crowns for one character slot is reasonable. For that price, I could wait for the next sale and buy two copies of the game and get 16 new character slots. The convenience of having all characters on one account only goes so far, and a price like that would absolutely break it. It's all about the opportunity cost.

100% This.

If they price these any higher than about 1000 Crowns, they are flat-out stupid. They'll sell like hot-cakes at a reasonable price like that, and all those new characters are going to mean sales of riding lessons, bag upgrades, motifs, etc.

Price them higher than that, and they'll sell far less, AND tick off half their customer base.

Please be smart about this, ZOS...

dodgehopper_ESO

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Four more characters means four more mount purchases. Thats four more characters to upgrade Speed, Stamina and Carry. Thats more bag space purchases and possible costumes and personalities purchases. Heck I might decide to grab a hat or two.

And I havent even purchased the senche for my Khajiit, a camel for my Redguard or a bear for my Orc yet.

This is why I don't think they will overprice it. More character slots lead to other purchases of diverse kinds.

Elsonso

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Four more characters means four more mount purchases. Thats four more characters to upgrade Speed, Stamina and Carry. Thats more bag space purchases and possible costumes and personalities purchases. Heck I might decide to grab a hat or two.

And I havent even purchased the senche for my Khajiit, a camel for my Redguard or a bear for my Orc yet.

This is why I don't think they will overprice it. More character slots lead to other purchases of diverse kinds.

I think they are watching threads like this to see what people will pay, then they will set the price up towards the top of the range.

Conquistador

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

There's no way these will be less than 5k crowns

I could see this, if they wanted to limit the amount, were looking for a cash grab, or just wanted to be punative.

At that point, the obvious answer is multiple accounts. Join a guild with like minded friends and use the guild bank. Otherwise, mail and account jumping.

I have not used half of my available character slots on PC, although I am full on PS4, so no pressure for me to buy if they are too expensive.

They would be silly to price it that high, though.

Incorrect. 5k crowns is very reasonable. Additionally, Zos doesn't expect you to purchase more slots since you clearly do not need them. Players wanting another slot will buy them and will spend 5k crowns for one.

If you think 5k crowns is reasonable, you're an idiot.

STEVIL

notimetocare wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

I will be really annoyed if it's more than 1.000 per slot. Seriously. If they want to make money on the crown shop they need to FILL IT UP with all the tings people have been BEGGING for on the thread they started just to ask us what we want...and yet have hardly fulfilled a single request while putting out thing after thing that no one asked for.

Why so cheap, Im sure the RP crowd wants these mroe... 5k for crafting motif, 5k per character slot (actually I anticipate 5k for 4 slots, seems like logical math)

I would gladly pay 5k for 4 slots plus a few Bennie in a bundle like say riding lessons speed.

Palidon

Its nice to have additional character slots but I would rather have a race change option. I have no desire to level up another character since I have gone down that road several times already

Nestor

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

This.
Well, except that the catch up mechanic doesn't include researching items and motifs, unfortunately, so I guess I'll stick to my main account and only buy new slots if not too expensive^^

Except, you don't need to Craft on both accounts. Log on to original account, make the gear, send to the other account. Easy Peasy Nice and Cheesey. It would make sense to have Alchemy and Provisioning on both accounts, more for the passives than anything else, but those can be raised to 50 in less than an hour. All other Crafting does not really happen all that often.