Finally, Character Slots! But...

DaniAngione · April 2016

Thank you, ZOS!

You're finally fixing that terrible mistake of giving us 10 races and 8 character slots :P
Lol, jokes aside..

I was really looking forward to this!

But there's something that must be said: I hope the price is not salty...
I mean... Anywhere from 500-1000 crowns seems acceptable to be.

Think of it like an investment: You don't expect great returns for the slot itself, but a new character means new potential for Riding Skill books, XP scrolls, Potions, maybe a new costume and mount to match their style, etc...

What you guys think about it? Should it be overpriced (being a new slot a "big thing") or should ZOS look at it as an "investment" and make it cheaper, hoping that new characters will motivate crown store consumption so they're ready for action faster?

bedlom · April 2016

But... I don't need them.

wayfarerx · April 2016

bedlom wrote: »

But... I don't need them.

I was going to say this, I'm really fine with my 8 that I have now. HOWEVER, if they are priced competitively (say 1,000 crowns or less) then it's very likely I will buy them up while drunk and thinking about clever argonian names.

So c'mon ZOS, drunken impulse pricing on the character slots please

UltimaJoe777 · April 2016

Yeah it isn't gonna be THAT cheap. I expect at least 2500 for 1 slot. After all they sold assistants for 5k each...

Cinbri · April 2016

We need an increased bank space so we won't need more bank storing chars at least for this particular reason.

Mcwoods55 · April 2016

DaniAngione wrote: »

Thank you, ZOS!

You're finally fixing that terrible mistake of giving us 10 races and 8 character slots :P
Lol, jokes aside..

I was really looking forward to this!

But there's something that must be said: I hope the price is not salty...
I mean... Anywhere from 500-1000 crowns seems acceptable to be.

Think of it like an investment: You don't expect great returns for the slot itself, but a new character means new potential for Riding Skill books, XP scrolls, Potions, maybe a new costume and mount to match their style, etc...

What you guys think about it? Should it be overpriced (being a new slot a "big thing") or should ZOS look at it as an "investment" and make it cheaper, hoping that new characters will motivate crown store consumption so they're ready for action faster?

Like I have said from day one they sell the DLC dirt cheap and justify it by selling everything else 1000% higher then they should. Expect them to be 3,000 - 5,000 each. If not You will see me and several others come unglued...

I mean a bank assistant is 5k
Mounts are 2,500k
motifs are 5k

If this which is a huge thing is cheap then they need to adjust all other prices.

Xundiin · April 2016

I wish, while they are messing with the character selection screen anyway, that you could rearrange your characters. Like for an example, I play my AD characters more than my EP crafter and my DC characters. I'd like my more played characters near the top, but atm they are spread all over the place.

TheValkyn · April 2016

Well, I hope that they realize that the value they are looking for isn't directly tied to selling the slot for the character. The value, at least in my opinion, is via extras for the new character such as costumes, motifs, riding lessons, bank slots and inventory slots.

I really hope they are smart enough to see this. The character slot is the cheap, door greeting sale that leads to the hefty stuff down the road.

Pallio · April 2016

I would guess 1,500 crown... ie. WW/Vamp since this is not a needed thing, more just convenient for more mules etc.

Pallio · April 2016

Now if this newly rolled character is LVL 50, then 5k crown would be ok.

CaptainBeerDude · April 2016

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

DaniAngione wrote: »

Thank you, ZOS!

You're finally fixing that terrible mistake of giving us 10 races and 8 character slots :P
Lol, jokes aside..

I was really looking forward to this!

But there's something that must be said: I hope the price is not salty...
I mean... Anywhere from 500-1000 crowns seems acceptable to be.

Think of it like an investment: You don't expect great returns for the slot itself, but a new character means new potential for Riding Skill books, XP scrolls, Potions, maybe a new costume and mount to match their style, etc...

What you guys think about it? Should it be overpriced (being a new slot a "big thing") or should ZOS look at it as an "investment" and make it cheaper, hoping that new characters will motivate crown store consumption so they're ready for action faster?

Like I have said from day one they sell the DLC dirt cheap and justify it by selling everything else 1000% higher then they should. Expect them to be 3,000 - 5,000 each. If not You will see me and several others come unglued...

I mean a bank assistant is 5k
Mounts are 2,500k
motifs are 5k

If this which is a huge thing is cheap then they need to adjust all other prices.

I'm going to have to disagree. Keep 'essential' items cheap and plaster us on cosmetics. It makes the game more accessible.

Nestor · April 2016

TheValkyn wrote: »

Well, I hope that they realize that the value they are looking for isn't directly tied to selling the slot for the character. The value, at least in my opinion, is via extras for the new character such as costumes, motifs, riding lessons, bank slots and inventory slots.

I really hope they are smart enough to see this. The character slot is the cheap, door greeting sale that leads to the hefty stuff down the road.

Yes, because the first thing people will want to do is buy Riding Lessons for these new characters. Why? Riding a horse at 0 Speed is painful after being on a horse at 60. Then there are the Bag Space upgrades that some will want, although if you have used up 8 slots, you should have all the bag space you need. Costumes and Motifs are account wide, so no big gain there, but probably some extra costume purchases for those who want their characters to look different.

I do hope they are in the 1000 crown range. I would probably buy 4 more slots. If they are much more, I may not buy any.

Jim_Pipp · April 2016

Expect these to be pricey. They know that most of us at some point will really-really want to make a new character, and if the option is there then temptation will get the better of us no matter the price.

Some people are suggesting lower pricing because they are some sort of investment, and a low start price will lead to more crown purchases later on. I would argue the opposite is true, if you have sunk 5-10 thousand crowns invested into a character slot then what's a few hundred more for the perfect costume?

It's not ideal, but overall I have to applaud ZOS for keeping the dlc affordable.

Volkodav · April 2016

Cinbri wrote: »

We need an increased bank space so we won't need more bank storing chars at least for this particular reason.

You can buy an upgrade to your bank space already for 1000 crowns.For 10 spaces.Not bad.

Volkodav · April 2016

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

DaniAngione wrote: »

Thank you, ZOS!

You're finally fixing that terrible mistake of giving us 10 races and 8 character slots :P
Lol, jokes aside..

I was really looking forward to this!

But there's something that must be said: I hope the price is not salty...
I mean... Anywhere from 500-1000 crowns seems acceptable to be.

Think of it like an investment: You don't expect great returns for the slot itself, but a new character means new potential for Riding Skill books, XP scrolls, Potions, maybe a new costume and mount to match their style, etc...

What you guys think about it? Should it be overpriced (being a new slot a "big thing") or should ZOS look at it as an "investment" and make it cheaper, hoping that new characters will motivate crown store consumption so they're ready for action faster?

Like I have said from day one they sell the DLC dirt cheap and justify it by selling everything else 1000% higher then they should. Expect them to be 3,000 - 5,000 each. If not You will see me and several others come unglued...

I mean a bank assistant is 5k
Mounts are 2,500k
motifs are 5k

If this which is a huge thing is cheap then they need to adjust all other prices.

I wouldnt pay those prices,and I am sure a lot of others wont either.So,where's the profit?
Also,most motifs arent 5k.

Volkodav · April 2016

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

Expect these to be pricey. They know that most of us at some point will really-really want to make a new character, and if the option is there then temptation will get the better of us no matter the price.

Some people are suggesting lower pricing because they are some sort of investment, and a low start price will lead to more crown purchases later on. I would argue the opposite is true, if you have sunk 5-10 thousand crowns invested into a character slot then what's a few hundred more for the perfect costume?

It's not ideal, but overall I have to applaud ZOS for keeping the dlc affordable.

Actually,if you already have those costumes for your other characters,you dont have to buy them for a new one.They a re account wide,so,there's no need to repurchase them,nor the mounts or assistants.

Lysette · April 2016

It's simple, I do not need another character, but I would buy another slot, if it would have a reasonable price. I have not made up my mind yet though, what is reasonable.

Volkodav · April 2016

Lysette wrote: »

It's simple, I do not need another character, but I would buy another slot, if it would have a reasonable price. I have not made up my mind yet though, what is reasonable.

I's say 1000 crowns would work fine. I'd pay that,or even 1500 crowns,but no more than that.

Lysette · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

It's simple, I do not need another character, but I would buy another slot, if it would have a reasonable price. I have not made up my mind yet though, what is reasonable.

I's say 1000 crowns would work fine. I'd pay that,or even 1500 crowns,but no more than that.

There is an alternative to this - just buy a new account on sale for 22€ - 8 slots, no extras, and just play the game plain, bank space and such just paid with gold. Experience the game as it was originally meant to be played. Never buying anything from the crown store. A totally separate game - if I want bling, I play the first account, if I don't the second one.

A lot of that crown store stuff I have is nice - but I do not need it really. I have this account with this stuff, and I can enjoy it, if I want to. But on the other side, it is asset which I have to care for. I do not really need that. My first account can perfectly support the second one and that one is just enjoying, not crafting nor anythign of that, So I do not need to subscribe.

So basically, I can have 8 slots for 22€ on sale - that is about 3500 crowns - so one slot costs me not even 450 crowns this way. Without all the bling and glitter of my first account. I kind of like the idea, to be free from all this asset and just play to have fun. What I need to store, can be stored on the first account, for all other I have enough space on the second for free.

So yes, maybe 1000 or 1500 crowns for a slot - that is generous of me - if they don't comply, then I'll buy a second account, when it will be on sale.

TheValkyn · April 2016

Lysette wrote: »

It's simple, I do not need another character, but I would buy another slot, if it would have a reasonable price. I have not made up my mind yet though, what is reasonable.

Well, considering another very popular MMO title sells them for 2000 (Same ratio per USD) but they are already leveled up (600 not leveled) then I'd expect anything below that. Their console MMORPG competition sells character slots for 450. (Just under $5)

Korah_Eaglecry · April 2016

I have 3 more characters to create. But since Im a bit OCD when it comes to numbers I'll need a fourth to round it out. So now I have to think of another character to create.

Eiagra · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

We need an increased bank space so we won't need more bank storing chars at least for this particular reason.

You can buy an upgrade to your bank space already for 1000 crowns.For 10 spaces.Not bad.

Some people will have hit that cap and are jonesing for more space. They are likely to be the ones to be expanding character slots for mules.

A fresh character starts with, what was it, 50 inventory slots? And the first two bag upgrades are pretty cheap, gold-wise.

There's two ways of looking at it. One is to make sure that character slots (up to whatever the new maximum is) does not undermine the price for bag upgrades. In that case, a character slot's value is around 5000 crowns or so (for 50 inventory slots, when equal to current crown bag upgrades -- adding two cheap bag upgrades would bring it to 70 slots, so no higher than 7000 crowns).

The other is to not only make sure these new slots are accessible for those folk who aren't out to make mules, but to make it accessible for those who create numerous alts for roleplaying purposes -- or VERY active players who already have eight VR16 characters and want to raise someone new. In the case of the latter, if they were feeling particularly energetic and enthusiastic... you're probably looking at 88 characters -- one per race, per class, per build (magicka/stamina). 132 characters if you go by role instead of build. Probably double that if you have one per race per class per build per role.

...But that latter example is rather unrealistic for purposes of guessing at what ZOS is likely to charge -- or what we as players feel the value of a character slot is.

Personally, I favor lower numbers. I don't need the bag space, and I haven't even used up all eight of my character slots. I likely never will. I play orcs exclusively, so I only really need one of each class. I build each up to a point where I can swap roles (two minimum, more if I can swing it). But in general, I try to be tight-fisted with my crowns.

Out of curiosity, who does have a driving need for more slots, and how many do you need? How much are you willing to pay for them? I've never really explored that line of questioning before, and I feel like I'm missing a lot of insight here.

Volkodav · April 2016

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

It's simple, I do not need another character, but I would buy another slot, if it would have a reasonable price. I have not made up my mind yet though, what is reasonable.

I's say 1000 crowns would work fine. I'd pay that,or even 1500 crowns,but no more than that.

There is an alternative to this - just buy a new account on sale for 22€ - 8 slots, no extras, and just play the game plain, bank space and such just paid with gold. Experience the game as it was originally meant to be played. Never buying anything from the crown store. A totally separate game - if I want bling, I play the first account, if I don't the second one.

A lot of that crown store stuff I have is nice - but I do not need it really. I have this account with this stuff, and I can enjoy it, if I want to. But on the other side, it is asset which I have to care for. I do not really need that. My first account can perfectly support the second one and that one is just enjoying, not crafting nor anythign of that, So I do not need to subscribe.

So basically, I can have 8 slots for 22€ on sale - that is about 3500 crowns - so one slot costs me not even 400 crowns this way. Without all the bling and glitter of my first account. I kind of like the idea, to be free from all this asset and just play to have fun. What I need to store, can be stored on the first account, for all other I have enough space on the second for free.

So yes, maybe 1000 or 1500 crowns for a slot - that is generous of me - if they don't comply, then I'll buy a second account.

I play the game as I have since the first betas.So,I dont get what you mean. I simply said the prices I would and would not pay.Nothing about needing more slots myself. I do have a few things from the crown store,but not a lot.I do upgrades on my mounts occasionally,but that's pretty much it.
I play the game with a few mods lately,but in the beginning,I used none at all.I was fine with it that way.
So,from my comment,your reply to mine is kinda odd.

Lysette · April 2016

I more and more like the idea of a second account - I can combine them via my guild.

Edit: I just consider which of my characters are using costumes - and those are just 2 - the only costumes I would buy on the 2nd account would be the brocade robe and the new bosmer outfit with bead chains. That is 1700 crowns. I can feed the new characters with gold from the first account, that is no problem at all, they can upgrade their inventories and bank space and buy a sorel horse, which is not a bad one.

Lysette · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

It's simple, I do not need another character, but I would buy another slot, if it would have a reasonable price. I have not made up my mind yet though, what is reasonable.

I's say 1000 crowns would work fine. I'd pay that,or even 1500 crowns,but no more than that.

There is an alternative to this - just buy a new account on sale for 22€ - 8 slots, no extras, and just play the game plain, bank space and such just paid with gold. Experience the game as it was originally meant to be played. Never buying anything from the crown store. A totally separate game - if I want bling, I play the first account, if I don't the second one.

A lot of that crown store stuff I have is nice - but I do not need it really. I have this account with this stuff, and I can enjoy it, if I want to. But on the other side, it is asset which I have to care for. I do not really need that. My first account can perfectly support the second one and that one is just enjoying, not crafting nor anythign of that, So I do not need to subscribe.

So basically, I can have 8 slots for 22€ on sale - that is about 3500 crowns - so one slot costs me not even 400 crowns this way. Without all the bling and glitter of my first account. I kind of like the idea, to be free from all this asset and just play to have fun. What I need to store, can be stored on the first account, for all other I have enough space on the second for free.

So yes, maybe 1000 or 1500 crowns for a slot - that is generous of me - if they don't comply, then I'll buy a second account.

I play the game as I have since the first betas.So,I dont get what you mean. I simply said the prices I would and would not pay.Nothing about needing more slots myself. I do have a few things from the crown store,but not a lot.I do upgrades on my mounts occasionally,but that's pretty much it.
I play the game with a few mods lately,but in the beginning,I used none at all.I was fine with it that way.
So,from my comment,your reply to mine is kinda odd.

Nah, it isn't really - I was pondering with the price range you offered - and was giving my thoughts about this price range actually. It was not meant as a suggestion to you, but just how I get to the same conclusion about your price range.

Edit: and when I consider price ranges, I have to explore alternatives, which provide me as well with character slots. I have to consider advantages and disadvantages of it and how they effect me. I was just pondering those ideas seen from my perspective - and I came to a price of 450 crowns per slot plain, when I consider those both outfits I would have to buy twice it is 650 crowns - so 1000 to 1500 crowns, like you said, would be acceptable for the advantage to be able to use all the stuff I already have, even I do just need 2 of those.

IcyDeadPeople · April 2016

I suspect they will be expensive, but I will still end up buying the maximum number permitted. Will be fun to be able to try several different race and class combinations, especially since we can level them so quickly now.

I would really like to know how many we will be able to buy.

Volkodav · April 2016

Lysette wrote: »

I more and more like the idea of a second account - I can combine them via my guild.

Edit: I just consider which of my characters are using costumes - and those are just 2 - the only costumes I would buy on the 2nd account would be the brocade robe and the new bosmer outfit with bead chains. That is 1700 crowns. I can feed the new characters with gold from the first account, that is no problem at all, they can upgrade their inventories and bank space and buy a sorel horse, which is not a bad one.

I wouldnt mind getting a second account though.Interesting ideas you have there,Lysette.

Lysette · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

I more and more like the idea of a second account - I can combine them via my guild.

Edit: I just consider which of my characters are using costumes - and those are just 2 - the only costumes I would buy on the 2nd account would be the brocade robe and the new bosmer outfit with bead chains. That is 1700 crowns. I can feed the new characters with gold from the first account, that is no problem at all, they can upgrade their inventories and bank space and buy a sorel horse, which is not a bad one.

I wouldnt mind getting a second account though.Interesting ideas you have there,Lysette.

Go up to my post, I added an edit.

Elder_III · April 2016

I'm ready and waiting to buy ~8 right off the bat. I might buy more down the road too (provided I don't leave for greener pastures). I've been begging for this since Beta and am overjoyed that it's finally confirmed and also annoyed that it took so long to do the obvious.

As for other accounts I do have 3 accounts, but since the arrival of the Champion system it's rather a waste of time to try to actively play on more then one account (aside from storage).

Volkodav · April 2016

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

It's simple, I do not need another character, but I would buy another slot, if it would have a reasonable price. I have not made up my mind yet though, what is reasonable.

I's say 1000 crowns would work fine. I'd pay that,or even 1500 crowns,but no more than that.

There is an alternative to this - just buy a new account on sale for 22€ - 8 slots, no extras, and just play the game plain, bank space and such just paid with gold. Experience the game as it was originally meant to be played. Never buying anything from the crown store. A totally separate game - if I want bling, I play the first account, if I don't the second one.

A lot of that crown store stuff I have is nice - but I do not need it really. I have this account with this stuff, and I can enjoy it, if I want to. But on the other side, it is asset which I have to care for. I do not really need that. My first account can perfectly support the second one and that one is just enjoying, not crafting nor anythign of that, So I do not need to subscribe.

So basically, I can have 8 slots for 22€ on sale - that is about 3500 crowns - so one slot costs me not even 400 crowns this way. Without all the bling and glitter of my first account. I kind of like the idea, to be free from all this asset and just play to have fun. What I need to store, can be stored on the first account, for all other I have enough space on the second for free.

So yes, maybe 1000 or 1500 crowns for a slot - that is generous of me - if they don't comply, then I'll buy a second account.

I play the game as I have since the first betas.So,I dont get what you mean. I simply said the prices I would and would not pay.Nothing about needing more slots myself. I do have a few things from the crown store,but not a lot.I do upgrades on my mounts occasionally,but that's pretty much it.
I play the game with a few mods lately,but in the beginning,I used none at all.I was fine with it that way.
So,from my comment,your reply to mine is kinda odd.

Nah, it isn't really - I was pondering with the price range you offered - and was giving my thoughts about this price range actually. It was not meant as a suggestion to you, but just how I get to the same conclusion about your price range.

Edit: and when I consider price ranges, I have to explore alternatives, which provide me as well with character slots. I have to consider advantages and disadvantages of it and how they effect me. I was just pondering those ideas seen from my perspective - and I came to a price of 450 crowns per slot plain, when I consider those both outfits I would have to buy twice it is 650 crowns - so 1000 to 1500 crowns, like you said, would be acceptable for the advantage to be able to use all the stuff I already have, even I do just need 2 of those.

Well,ok,I might go up to 2000 crowns,but not more. To make things way high priced isnt always conducive to profit. Give a good price and people will buy.With the topic.they'll buy over and over if it isnt too pricey.The assistants arent going that well,both due to their limitations AND their heavy prices.

Volkodav · April 2016

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

I suspect they will be expensive, but I will still end up buying the maximum number permitted. Will be fun to be able to try several different race and class combinations, especially since we can level them so quickly now.

I would really like to know how many we will be able to buy.

Probably as many as you will pay out the nose for.Enjoy. XD