Calling All DC and EP to Kick AD from Haderus

forzajuve212 · April 2016

@Rylana

Most of my guys are people we brought into PvP since August 2015 when we were just starting. We never had any big time transfers from other guilds, although with the recent breakup of rage and Victorem, we've gotten some guys with prior PvP experience.

Myself personally, i've been a member of Rage for a while but although I haven't had the 2 year experience of leading a guild and pvp leading, we've come a long way from our roots back in August 2015 when we started out picking up pugs. So basically, we've started from the ground up here, that's why you don't recognize anyone. Most of our core are players who started off as pugs with no experience and have grown into very solid pvpers.

We've progressively trained, gained experience, and grown into our own on Haderus. It's taken a lot of time but I'm happy with the progress and i hope the GvG will prove that.

MoreDino · April 2016

You all realize that Haderus will lag just like Trueflame does when the pops balance, right? Using the "I play on Haderus because Trueflame lags too much" line is just an excuse.

Ghostbane · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

LyleiaSnow wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

That's when you call them out in zone by name and shame them. Anything to get their attention.

I'm curios though, who are the actual DC on Haderus trying to change the dynamic there. Can we have a roll call?

I don't think shaming or insulting other players is the best way to go, but if anyone else wants to do it..... Although I don't think it would actually make a difference except making zone a shittier, saltier place.

Sounds like ad needs a Pubes to do the dirty work.

AD does have a version of that guy, two actually. Havent seen either of them for ages, Sierra Hotel was almost as funny as Publius.

Sierra never specifically called anyone out, he just moaned about 'AD' constantly.

rfennell_ESO · April 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

LyleiaSnow wrote: »

forzajuve212 wrote: »

Agreed 100%. TF is tough to home due to crazy lag spikes that are way higher in general vs Haderus which is tough to get my guys to move. Both us and Fantasia have moved to TF on different nights to get action when Haderus was dead. This weekend, we moved to TF on friday and had some nice fights with VE and Pact Militia. Hopefully, more DC and EP move haderus because the lag is generally lower, even when both camps have same numbers.

This... The only reason we are still homing Haderus is because the lag is much less intense than on TF. Had might spike to TF-type-lag at some points, but even then, it's a lot less often or consistent. It sucks to log on in to Cyrodiil and have no objectives to go after or have no one to fight because the map is completely yellow. If the situation was the same (AD ridiculously outnumbering DC and EP on Had) and the lag wasn't unbearable in Trueflame, we'd switch over in a heartbeat. PVP is nothing without good fights.

Unfortunately, we know the lag is an issue that probably won't get resolved any time soon...... I'd be hopeful about PVP if I thought ZOS would see this thread (despite the bickering) and give a crap, but... lol...

This issue isn't the fault of any players, be it AD, DC or EP, pugs or not pugs, it's just a symptom of a broken game and a company that is unwilling to work as hard as they should to fix the core issue of PVP, the lag.

But guilds and players still have CHOICES. You don't have to sit on Haderus and send 50 ad to kill 10 DC who are trying to get Rayles or Warden back.

Hate to tell you this... but even the baddies have learned the way of the D tick.

antihero727 · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

staracino_ESO wrote: »

My question was somewhat rhetorical. ZOS probably shouldn't/won't do anything. Population imbalance is an issue that needs to be solved among the community.
Some random thoughts:
I do not know if I would be in favor of this, but perhaps making AP account wide would encourage people to play alts in underdog factions. Right now there is no incentive to play an alt other than trying to make the map less dominated. I'll add that most pugs do not care about having what people call "good pvp." They want to win, and they want AP. Also, many people do not care for raising/playing alts at all.
There needs to be an instant-gratification reward to convince all of the pugs to switch sides temporarily. I admit that 7-30 day campaigns should probably not feature any instant gratification rewards, but that is the only way I can think to sway the masses. It has to be substantial, as well, since we will be attempting to convince people to not only make/play an alt, but commit to actually making the campaign more balanced.

I personally am an alliance loyalists. Some might find that stupid but I don't. I would rather quit the game than make a DC or EP toon.

Ive played cross faction in every game I have ever played, different strokes I suppose. The opportunity for uphill fighting exists there. The problem is joining a faction at launch (in my case AD), that was so grossly overpopulated there were virtually no fights to be had on six campaigns, only a few (wabba, dawnbreaker, and a couple others) were even contested at all.

The natural progression to switch sides was bred out of the lack of not shooting fish in a barrel with five times the numbers. Until youve taken six-twelve people to a buff server and farmed that entire faction for hundreds of thousands of AP in a session, and realized just how weak most zergers really are, you really havent experienced the game IMO.

Lol, you have no idea who you are talking to. I just started in the forums but have been here since pre launch. Do you think typing more words makes your "tall tales" look anymore believeable? You don't remember the EP buff servers, selective memory I guess? Watch who you insult as a well known EP streamer spent 2 days in malestrom licking his wounds and does not stream anymore from running his mouth to much. I can't wait for Wednesday to farm your group.

*snicker*

No, seriously, that whole threat just made me laugh.

Don't worry I will be laughing on top of your dead EP toon soon enough. This vacation was just what I needed. Refreshed and ready to kill EP trash zergs till CU comes out.

Youre the guy that invoked the TKO guild name against me, you literally lost any credibility the moment you did so. Go back to your zerg.

Lol you were in that guild too so you lost all credibility to yourself as well. Your a trash player talking trash. Nobody actually believes or fears you. Your like a little yappy ankel bitter dog.

Not just in the guild, co founded it, named it even. Then realized what BDG had become, quit promptly, and went back to my roots, where zergs arent required. The full journey is what is important. From your comments I can tell your journey has seen you pass from one zergherd to another. You sound just like all those incredulous people in tko ts that thought they were the greatest gankers in the game because they could xv1 guys on horses.

So just stop already.

Do you think that paragraphs do DPS? I have enjoyed our forum discussions but time for you to put up or shut up is soon. You keep bringing up TKO as if I gloated about them, read the original post if you can't keep your lies and exaggerating straight though. FYI we are all laughing at you. Who was BDG?

Rylana · April 2016

forzajuve212 wrote: »

@Rylana

Most of my guys are people we brought into PvP since August 2015 when we were just starting. We never had any big time transfers from other guilds, although with the recent breakup of rage and Victorem, we've gotten some guys with prior PvP experience.

Myself personally, i've been a member of Rage for a while but although I haven't had the 2 year experience of leading a guild and pvp leading, we've come a long way from our roots back in August 2015 when we started out picking up pugs. So basically, we've started from the ground up here, that's why you don't recognize anyone. Most of our core are players who started off as pugs with no experience and have grown into very solid pvpers.

We've progressively trained, gained experience, and grown into our own on Haderus. It's taken a lot of time but I'm happy with the progress and i hope the GvG will prove that.

Darkest Requiem are the remnants of three or four guilds (Guild of Shadows, Nexus, Cuddle Kingdom, and Hijinx) when they went to BDO or otherwise stopped playing + a bunch of people we picked up from zone and have been training since February. A lot of people think we are still one of those guilds (Guild of Shadows) but we are not, even though Zazeer is a member of DR that plays about once every three/four weeks for an hour at most. Hes pure BDO now XD. Some of those other guild members now run in Haxus, Invictus, Pact Militia, or other TF guilds, but DR has always been a Haddy guild.

EP had a major shakeup late last year when a bunch of guilds/people quit and most of the major organized guilds fell apart and reformed under new banners (such as Nexus and Havoc becoming Haxus (just a well known example after Anon quit). Same thing AD is going through now.

forzajuve212 · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

forzajuve212 wrote: »

@Rylana

Most of my guys are people we brought into PvP since August 2015 when we were just starting. We never had any big time transfers from other guilds, although with the recent breakup of rage and Victorem, we've gotten some guys with prior PvP experience.

Myself personally, i've been a member of Rage for a while but although I haven't had the 2 year experience of leading a guild and pvp leading, we've come a long way from our roots back in August 2015 when we started out picking up pugs. So basically, we've started from the ground up here, that's why you don't recognize anyone. Most of our core are players who started off as pugs with no experience and have grown into very solid pvpers.

We've progressively trained, gained experience, and grown into our own on Haderus. It's taken a lot of time but I'm happy with the progress and i hope the GvG will prove that.

Darkest Requiem are the remnants of three or four guilds (Guild of Shadows, Nexus, Cuddle Kingdom, and Hijinx) when they went to BDO or otherwise stopped playing + a bunch of people we picked up from zone and have been training since February. A lot of people think we are still one of those guilds (Guild of Shadows) but we are not. Some of those other guild members now run in Haxus, Invictus, Pact Militia, or other TF guilds, but DR has always been a Haddy guild.

EP had a major shakeup late last year when a bunch of guilds/people quit and most of the major organized guilds fell apart and reformed under new banners (such as Nexus and Havoc becoming Haxus (just a well known example after Anon quit). Same thing AD is going through now.

Thanks for the clarification. This type of conversation is what we need more of for sure.

AD really is suffering from a lack of direction and hopefully both Arcane and Fantasia can be the top dogs for AD now as the dust settles.

Rylana · April 2016

antihero727 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

staracino_ESO wrote: »

My question was somewhat rhetorical. ZOS probably shouldn't/won't do anything. Population imbalance is an issue that needs to be solved among the community.
Some random thoughts:
I do not know if I would be in favor of this, but perhaps making AP account wide would encourage people to play alts in underdog factions. Right now there is no incentive to play an alt other than trying to make the map less dominated. I'll add that most pugs do not care about having what people call "good pvp." They want to win, and they want AP. Also, many people do not care for raising/playing alts at all.
There needs to be an instant-gratification reward to convince all of the pugs to switch sides temporarily. I admit that 7-30 day campaigns should probably not feature any instant gratification rewards, but that is the only way I can think to sway the masses. It has to be substantial, as well, since we will be attempting to convince people to not only make/play an alt, but commit to actually making the campaign more balanced.

I personally am an alliance loyalists. Some might find that stupid but I don't. I would rather quit the game than make a DC or EP toon.

Ive played cross faction in every game I have ever played, different strokes I suppose. The opportunity for uphill fighting exists there. The problem is joining a faction at launch (in my case AD), that was so grossly overpopulated there were virtually no fights to be had on six campaigns, only a few (wabba, dawnbreaker, and a couple others) were even contested at all.

The natural progression to switch sides was bred out of the lack of not shooting fish in a barrel with five times the numbers. Until youve taken six-twelve people to a buff server and farmed that entire faction for hundreds of thousands of AP in a session, and realized just how weak most zergers really are, you really havent experienced the game IMO.

Lol, you have no idea who you are talking to. I just started in the forums but have been here since pre launch. Do you think typing more words makes your "tall tales" look anymore believeable? You don't remember the EP buff servers, selective memory I guess? Watch who you insult as a well known EP streamer spent 2 days in malestrom licking his wounds and does not stream anymore from running his mouth to much. I can't wait for Wednesday to farm your group.

*snicker*

No, seriously, that whole threat just made me laugh.

Don't worry I will be laughing on top of your dead EP toon soon enough. This vacation was just what I needed. Refreshed and ready to kill EP trash zergs till CU comes out.

Youre the guy that invoked the TKO guild name against me, you literally lost any credibility the moment you did so. Go back to your zerg.

Lol you were in that guild too so you lost all credibility to yourself as well. Your a trash player talking trash. Nobody actually believes or fears you. Your like a little yappy ankel bitter dog.

Not just in the guild, co founded it, named it even. Then realized what BDG had become, quit promptly, and went back to my roots, where zergs arent required. The full journey is what is important. From your comments I can tell your journey has seen you pass from one zergherd to another. You sound just like all those incredulous people in tko ts that thought they were the greatest gankers in the game because they could xv1 guys on horses.

So just stop already.

Do you think that paragraphs do DPS? I have enjoyed our forum discussions but time for you to put up or shut up is soon. You keep bringing up TKO as if I gloated about them, read the original post if you can't keep your lies and exaggerating straight though. FYI we are all laughing at you. Who was BDG?

Balls Deep Gaming, the core group that would later form TKO after America quit the game. Unfortunately most of them quit not long after TKO was formed, I was one of the last to finally go. Healsforfeelz, Morinth, Rarein, Dshotz, Glarin, and assorted other names you may or may not recognize were all part of that era. BKs was actually not even a big name in BDG, Frogblast wasnt even a member, he came later on Chillrend IIRC.

God_flakes · April 2016

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

LyleiaSnow wrote: »

forzajuve212 wrote: »

Agreed 100%. TF is tough to home due to crazy lag spikes that are way higher in general vs Haderus which is tough to get my guys to move. Both us and Fantasia have moved to TF on different nights to get action when Haderus was dead. This weekend, we moved to TF on friday and had some nice fights with VE and Pact Militia. Hopefully, more DC and EP move haderus because the lag is generally lower, even when both camps have same numbers.

This... The only reason we are still homing Haderus is because the lag is much less intense than on TF. Had might spike to TF-type-lag at some points, but even then, it's a lot less often or consistent. It sucks to log on in to Cyrodiil and have no objectives to go after or have no one to fight because the map is completely yellow. If the situation was the same (AD ridiculously outnumbering DC and EP on Had) and the lag wasn't unbearable in Trueflame, we'd switch over in a heartbeat. PVP is nothing without good fights.

Unfortunately, we know the lag is an issue that probably won't get resolved any time soon...... I'd be hopeful about PVP if I thought ZOS would see this thread (despite the bickering) and give a crap, but... lol...

This issue isn't the fault of any players, be it AD, DC or EP, pugs or not pugs, it's just a symptom of a broken game and a company that is unwilling to work as hard as they should to fix the core issue of PVP, the lag.

But guilds and players still have CHOICES. You don't have to sit on Haderus and send 50 ad to kill 10 DC who are trying to get Rayles or Warden back.

Hate to tell you this... but even the baddies have learned the way of the D tick.

Yes, I'm aware. It is how a certain someone kept a certain someone empress for months on end, feeding her solo d-ticks. The d-tick is great motivator for poor sportsmanship.

LyleiaSnow · April 2016

MoreDino wrote: »

You all realize that Haderus will lag just like Trueflame does when the pops balance, right? Using the "I play on Haderus because Trueflame lags too much" line is just an excuse.

Even before this whole AD overpopulation, when it was EP that had the upper hand on Haderus, the lag was better then on TF. Even during huge fights at emp keeps the lag was tolerable, while similar fights on TF would've been hell.

I'd be glad if the populations could balance themselves out. We can only wait and see how much the lag will worsen in that situation, but for now, when it is possible to have good fights, we stay on Haderus because it is much more playable. When it's not possible to find worthwhile fights, we toughen up and dive head-first in to TF lag.

Edit: the lag isn't just an excuse but an understandable reason as to why one would choose a campaign over the other. Having fun and enjoying the game is the most important part of playing, and it's harder to do that when you can't play the game properly because of poor performance.

antihero727 · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

staracino_ESO wrote: »

My question was somewhat rhetorical. ZOS probably shouldn't/won't do anything. Population imbalance is an issue that needs to be solved among the community.
Some random thoughts:
I do not know if I would be in favor of this, but perhaps making AP account wide would encourage people to play alts in underdog factions. Right now there is no incentive to play an alt other than trying to make the map less dominated. I'll add that most pugs do not care about having what people call "good pvp." They want to win, and they want AP. Also, many people do not care for raising/playing alts at all.
There needs to be an instant-gratification reward to convince all of the pugs to switch sides temporarily. I admit that 7-30 day campaigns should probably not feature any instant gratification rewards, but that is the only way I can think to sway the masses. It has to be substantial, as well, since we will be attempting to convince people to not only make/play an alt, but commit to actually making the campaign more balanced.

I personally am an alliance loyalists. Some might find that stupid but I don't. I would rather quit the game than make a DC or EP toon.

Ive played cross faction in every game I have ever played, different strokes I suppose. The opportunity for uphill fighting exists there. The problem is joining a faction at launch (in my case AD), that was so grossly overpopulated there were virtually no fights to be had on six campaigns, only a few (wabba, dawnbreaker, and a couple others) were even contested at all.

The natural progression to switch sides was bred out of the lack of not shooting fish in a barrel with five times the numbers. Until youve taken six-twelve people to a buff server and farmed that entire faction for hundreds of thousands of AP in a session, and realized just how weak most zergers really are, you really havent experienced the game IMO.

Lol, you have no idea who you are talking to. I just started in the forums but have been here since pre launch. Do you think typing more words makes your "tall tales" look anymore believeable? You don't remember the EP buff servers, selective memory I guess? Watch who you insult as a well known EP streamer spent 2 days in malestrom licking his wounds and does not stream anymore from running his mouth to much. I can't wait for Wednesday to farm your group.

*snicker*

No, seriously, that whole threat just made me laugh.

Don't worry I will be laughing on top of your dead EP toon soon enough. This vacation was just what I needed. Refreshed and ready to kill EP trash zergs till CU comes out.

Youre the guy that invoked the TKO guild name against me, you literally lost any credibility the moment you did so. Go back to your zerg.

Lol you were in that guild too so you lost all credibility to yourself as well. Your a trash player talking trash. Nobody actually believes or fears you. Your like a little yappy ankel bitter dog.

Not just in the guild, co founded it, named it even. Then realized what BDG had become, quit promptly, and went back to my roots, where zergs arent required. The full journey is what is important. From your comments I can tell your journey has seen you pass from one zergherd to another. You sound just like all those incredulous people in tko ts that thought they were the greatest gankers in the game because they could xv1 guys on horses.

So just stop already.

Do you think that paragraphs do DPS? I have enjoyed our forum discussions but time for you to put up or shut up is soon. You keep bringing up TKO as if I gloated about them, read the original post if you can't keep your lies and exaggerating straight though. FYI we are all laughing at you. Who was BDG?

Balls Deep Gaming, the core group that would later form TKO after America quit the game. Unfortunately most of them quit not long after TKO was formed, I was one of the last to finally go. Healsforfeelz, Morinth, Rarein, Dshotz, Glarin, and assorted other names you may or may not recognize were all part of that era. BKs was actually not even a big name in BDG, Frogblast wasnt even a member, he came later on Chillrend IIRC.

Cool to know the history. I was running with another guild as my main at that time.

Ghost-Shot · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

forzajuve212 wrote: »

@Rylana

Most of my guys are people we brought into PvP since August 2015 when we were just starting. We never had any big time transfers from other guilds, although with the recent breakup of rage and Victorem, we've gotten some guys with prior PvP experience.

Myself personally, i've been a member of Rage for a while but although I haven't had the 2 year experience of leading a guild and pvp leading, we've come a long way from our roots back in August 2015 when we started out picking up pugs. So basically, we've started from the ground up here, that's why you don't recognize anyone. Most of our core are players who started off as pugs with no experience and have grown into very solid pvpers.

We've progressively trained, gained experience, and grown into our own on Haderus. It's taken a lot of time but I'm happy with the progress and i hope the GvG will prove that.

Darkest Requiem are the remnants of three or four guilds (Guild of Shadows, Nexus, Cuddle Kingdom, and Hijinx) when they went to BDO or otherwise stopped playing + a bunch of people we picked up from zone and have been training since February. A lot of people think we are still one of those guilds (Guild of Shadows) but we are not, even though Zazeer is a member of DR that plays about once every three/four weeks for an hour at most. Hes pure BDO now XD. Some of those other guild members now run in Haxus, Invictus, Pact Militia, or other TF guilds, but DR has always been a Haddy guild.

EP had a major shakeup late last year when a bunch of guilds/people quit and most of the major organized guilds fell apart and reformed under new banners (such as Nexus and Havoc becoming Haxus (just a well known example after Anon quit). Same thing AD is going through now.

I miss Havoc! It's a shame we never really got any good fights with them after the reroll was done, the few we did get with them most of us were still on lowbies.

TequilaFire · April 2016

Sierra Hotel I remember that guy from my PC days. lol
Munches popcorn . Carry on!

Takes-No-Prisoner · April 2016

TequilaFire wrote: »

Sierra Hotel I remember that guy from my PC days. lol
Munches popcorn . Carry on!

They had a EP toon too? I remember the days that person kept insulting AD for everything in zone chat.

MaximillianDiE · April 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

LyleiaSnow wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

That's when you call them out in zone by name and shame them. Anything to get their attention.

I'm curios though, who are the actual DC on Haderus trying to change the dynamic there. Can we have a roll call?

I don't think shaming or insulting other players is the best way to go, but if anyone else wants to do it..... Although I don't think it would actually make a difference except making zone a shittier, saltier place.

Sounds like ad needs a Pubes to do the dirty work.

AD does have a version of that guy, two actually. Havent seen either of them for ages, Sierra Hotel was almost as funny as Publius.

Sierra never specifically called anyone out, he just moaned about 'AD' constantly.

Two words - Khaz Khan. That guy used to have us in stiches with the vitriol he would spew in AD zone chat. Especially as a lot of it was directed as us.

TequilaFire · April 2016

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Sierra Hotel I remember that guy from my PC days. lol
Munches popcorn . Carry on!

They had a EP toon too? I remember the days that person kept insulting AD for everything in zone chat.

No I played mostly AD when I was on PC created new EP characters when I switched to PS4 because I had friends that were EP.

Still have 2 vet AD on the shelf that I haven't played yet on PS4 just in case. lol

RDMyers65b14_ESO · April 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

That's when you call them out in zone by name and shame them. Anything to get their attention.

I'm curious though, who are the actual DC on Haderus trying to change the dynamic there. Can we have a roll call?

Heart of Daggerfall has been on Haderus since December until the last week when we guested TF to test the water, so to speak. The vote on which campaign we will home is in about an hour. It is disheartening that every day to be starting at our gates knowing that by 3 am it will be all undone. Some are even mentioning rerolling to a larger faction. I personally am hoping to stay on Haderus but there is not enough DC on the campaign to even make a dent when the 60+ AD show up when we try to push for the trikeeps. I can't stand the lag in TF. But either way, we can't win. Overwhelming numbers either campaign by the other factions.

Inarre · April 2016

MaximillianDiE wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

LyleiaSnow wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

That's when you call them out in zone by name and shame them. Anything to get their attention.

I'm curios though, who are the actual DC on Haderus trying to change the dynamic there. Can we have a roll call?

I don't think shaming or insulting other players is the best way to go, but if anyone else wants to do it..... Although I don't think it would actually make a difference except making zone a shittier, saltier place.

Sounds like ad needs a Pubes to do the dirty work.

AD does have a version of that guy, two actually. Havent seen either of them for ages, Sierra Hotel was almost as funny as Publius.

Sierra never specifically called anyone out, he just moaned about 'AD' constantly.

Two words - Khaz Khan. That guy used to have us in stiches with the vitriol he would spew in AD zone chat. Especially as a lot of it was directed as us.

Did he speak english fluently? I played another game (mmo) where a person under the name khan also had us rolling with laughter over insults he threw at players and factions (myself included ) best comedy relief. I hope it was the same.

ks888 · April 2016

This is why I enjoy having toons on all 3 factions. With ZoS closing the 3rd campaign and many of us with max champ points (or very close to it) not wanting to spend a ton of time in the non-champ pt Azura's, you have a huge influx of players with nowhere to go if they want to PvP. It is not any one faction's fault. Zerging has been a problem since the start of the game and has only gotten progressively worse with the combat changes devs have made and the limited places to go. My suggestion, get over the faction loyalty drama, make alts so you have somewhere to go when one side is overwhelmed. It's worked so far for me. Also, Rhage had an excellent point, Had has always been just one guild group away from being a balanced server. Maybe if we see some future rerolls, Had will balance out again, but until that and Trueflame not being a complete lagfest all night happen, we'll just have to make the best of it.

mrvbalc · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Youre the guy that invoked the TKO guild name against me, you literally lost any credibility the moment you did so. Go back to your zerg.

LOL you are one to talk about TKO and its credibility, You were one of the officer in TKO, and Dont keep singing the same song of grp of 16 wiped 40 AD, may be you might have done that once or twice against pugs, I can accept that. I agree EP have really good pvpers (definitely you are not one of them). ANd AD and DC also have same amount of good pvpers, When you are wiping 40 man ad grp with 16 ep , 16 man ad grp or dc grp doing the same to 40 man EP grp somewhere. Immeditely come to forum and cry AD have no skills or asking for GvG, really childish. Grow up. IF you feel AD zerging in Haderus get some EP guilds help from TF and and try to push AD out.

Rylana · April 2016

mrvbalc wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Youre the guy that invoked the TKO guild name against me, you literally lost any credibility the moment you did so. Go back to your zerg.

LOL you are one to talk about TKO and its credibility, You were one of the officer in TKO, and Dont keep singing the same song of grp of 16 wiped 40 AD, may be you might have done that once or twice against pugs, I can accept that. I agree EP have really good pvpers (definitely you are not one of them). ANd AD and DC also have same amount of good pvpers, When you are wiping 40 man ad grp with 16 ep , 16 man ad grp or dc grp doing the same to 40 man EP grp somewhere. Immeditely come to forum and cry AD have no skills or asking for GvG, really childish. Grow up. IF you feel AD zerging in Haderus get some EP guilds help from TF and and try to push AD out.

lol @ me not being a good player

k, bro, you clearly know your stuff

ha... ha.... ha.... ha

Serious part: mate, there are less than five players in the game that I know flat out can whip me in a 1v1, and a handful more that wont kill me, but will sure as hell try while I am unable to kill them, you are not one, so sit down, seriously. 1v1, small man, large group, im flexible, so just, comment of the year from you there, if I am honest. But by all means, PLEASE be the next guy to Xv1 me with 10+ people and then teabag me after to show me how awesome you are at ragetargeting with massive amounts of help. I relish it.

But please do try to come at me by yourself and learn like a whole list of other trashtalkers how ungodly difficult I am to kill solo. Think I am joking? Last e-peener that tried spent over 20 minutes, rolling around on the floor dodging everything back until I was just bored of it and walked away (with him spambushing me the whole way there). Yes walked, into Fort Ash and ported. Im built to jump headfirst into zergs of people, as crown, and not die easily while doing so. All while being a damage sorc. So, have fun with that one.

Elong · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

mrvbalc wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Youre the guy that invoked the TKO guild name against me, you literally lost any credibility the moment you did so. Go back to your zerg.

LOL you are one to talk about TKO and its credibility, You were one of the officer in TKO, and Dont keep singing the same song of grp of 16 wiped 40 AD, may be you might have done that once or twice against pugs, I can accept that. I agree EP have really good pvpers (definitely you are not one of them). ANd AD and DC also have same amount of good pvpers, When you are wiping 40 man ad grp with 16 ep , 16 man ad grp or dc grp doing the same to 40 man EP grp somewhere. Immeditely come to forum and cry AD have no skills or asking for GvG, really childish. Grow up. IF you feel AD zerging in Haderus get some EP guilds help from TF and and try to push AD out.

lol @ me not being a good player

k, bro, you clearly know your stuff

ha... ha.... ha.... ha

Serious part: mate, there are less than five players in the game that I know flat out can whip me in a 1v1, and a handful more that wont kill me, but will sure as hell try while I am unable to kill them, you are not one, so sit down, seriously. 1v1, small man, large group, im flexible, so just, comment of the year from you there, if I am honest. But by all means, PLEASE be the next guy to Xv1 me with 10+ people and then teabag me after to show me how awesome you are at ragetargeting with massive amounts of help. I relish it.

NativeJoe · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

mrvbalc wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Youre the guy that invoked the TKO guild name against me, you literally lost any credibility the moment you did so. Go back to your zerg.

LOL you are one to talk about TKO and its credibility, You were one of the officer in TKO, and Dont keep singing the same song of grp of 16 wiped 40 AD, may be you might have done that once or twice against pugs, I can accept that. I agree EP have really good pvpers (definitely you are not one of them). ANd AD and DC also have same amount of good pvpers, When you are wiping 40 man ad grp with 16 ep , 16 man ad grp or dc grp doing the same to 40 man EP grp somewhere. Immeditely come to forum and cry AD have no skills or asking for GvG, really childish. Grow up. IF you feel AD zerging in Haderus get some EP guilds help from TF and and try to push AD out.

lol @ me not being a good player

k, bro, you clearly know your stuff

ha... ha.... ha.... ha

Serious part: mate, there are less than five players in the game that I know flat out can whip me in a 1v1, and a handful more that wont kill me, but will sure as hell try while I am unable to kill them, you are not one, so sit down, seriously. 1v1, small man, large group, im flexible, so just, comment of the year from you there, if I am honest. But by all means, PLEASE be the next guy to Xv1 me with 10+ people and then teabag me after to show me how awesome you are at ragetargeting with massive amounts of help. I relish it.

Hey. if your not DC I'd love to test my builds verses you. I might be a 6th

mrvbalc · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

mrvbalc wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Youre the guy that invoked the TKO guild name against me, you literally lost any credibility the moment you did so. Go back to your zerg.

LOL you are one to talk about TKO and its credibility, You were one of the officer in TKO, and Dont keep singing the same song of grp of 16 wiped 40 AD, may be you might have done that once or twice against pugs, I can accept that. I agree EP have really good pvpers (definitely you are not one of them). ANd AD and DC also have same amount of good pvpers, When you are wiping 40 man ad grp with 16 ep , 16 man ad grp or dc grp doing the same to 40 man EP grp somewhere. Immeditely come to forum and cry AD have no skills or asking for GvG, really childish. Grow up. IF you feel AD zerging in Haderus get some EP guilds help from TF and and try to push AD out.

lol @ me not being a good player

k, bro, you clearly know your stuff

ha... ha.... ha.... ha

Serious part: mate, there are less than five players in the game that I know flat out can whip me in a 1v1, and a handful more that wont kill me, but will sure as hell try while I am unable to kill them, you are not one, so sit down, seriously. 1v1, small man, large group, im flexible, so just, comment of the year from you there, if I am honest. But by all means, PLEASE be the next guy to Xv1 me with 10+ people and then teabag me after to show me how awesome you are at ragetargeting with massive amounts of help. I relish it.

But please do try to come at me by yourself and learn like a whole list of other trashtalkers how ungodly difficult I am to kill solo. Think I am joking? Last e-peener that tried spent over 20 minutes, rolling around on the floor dodging everything back until I was just bored of it and walked away (with him spambushing me the whole way there). Yes walked, into Fort Ash and ported. Im built to jump headfirst into zergs of people, as crown, and not die easily while doing so. All while being a damage sorc. So, have fun with that one.

Bro, you are a forum joker. EOM

Rylana · April 2016

mrvbalc wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

mrvbalc wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Youre the guy that invoked the TKO guild name against me, you literally lost any credibility the moment you did so. Go back to your zerg.

LOL you are one to talk about TKO and its credibility, You were one of the officer in TKO, and Dont keep singing the same song of grp of 16 wiped 40 AD, may be you might have done that once or twice against pugs, I can accept that. I agree EP have really good pvpers (definitely you are not one of them). ANd AD and DC also have same amount of good pvpers, When you are wiping 40 man ad grp with 16 ep , 16 man ad grp or dc grp doing the same to 40 man EP grp somewhere. Immeditely come to forum and cry AD have no skills or asking for GvG, really childish. Grow up. IF you feel AD zerging in Haderus get some EP guilds help from TF and and try to push AD out.

lol @ me not being a good player

k, bro, you clearly know your stuff

ha... ha.... ha.... ha

Serious part: mate, there are less than five players in the game that I know flat out can whip me in a 1v1, and a handful more that wont kill me, but will sure as hell try while I am unable to kill them, you are not one, so sit down, seriously. 1v1, small man, large group, im flexible, so just, comment of the year from you there, if I am honest. But by all means, PLEASE be the next guy to Xv1 me with 10+ people and then teabag me after to show me how awesome you are at ragetargeting with massive amounts of help. I relish it.

But please do try to come at me by yourself and learn like a whole list of other trashtalkers how ungodly difficult I am to kill solo. Think I am joking? Last e-peener that tried spent over 20 minutes, rolling around on the floor dodging everything back until I was just bored of it and walked away (with him spambushing me the whole way there). Yes walked, into Fort Ash and ported. Im built to jump headfirst into zergs of people, as crown, and not die easily while doing so. All while being a damage sorc. So, have fun with that one.

Bro, you are a forum joker. EOM

And thats exactly what I count on people like you believing. its a shock to the system when they find out, quite bluntly, that I am actually in the same league as the same people they would namedrop at the first chance they could, in some cases, I might actually be even better o.o.

mrvbalc · April 2016

Apologies for calling you noob. I shouldn't hv went down to your level by calling other players or faction, bad players.

Ghostbane · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

mrvbalc wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Youre the guy that invoked the TKO guild name against me, you literally lost any credibility the moment you did so. Go back to your zerg.

LOL you are one to talk about TKO and its credibility, You were one of the officer in TKO, and Dont keep singing the same song of grp of 16 wiped 40 AD, may be you might have done that once or twice against pugs, I can accept that. I agree EP have really good pvpers (definitely you are not one of them). ANd AD and DC also have same amount of good pvpers, When you are wiping 40 man ad grp with 16 ep , 16 man ad grp or dc grp doing the same to 40 man EP grp somewhere. Immeditely come to forum and cry AD have no skills or asking for GvG, really childish. Grow up. IF you feel AD zerging in Haderus get some EP guilds help from TF and and try to push AD out.

lol @ me not being a good player

k, bro, you clearly know your stuff

ha... ha.... ha.... ha

Serious part: mate, there are less than five players in the game that I know flat out can whip me in a 1v1, and a handful more that wont kill me, but will sure as hell try while I am unable to kill them, you are not one, so sit down, seriously. 1v1, small man, large group, im flexible, so just, comment of the year from you there, if I am honest. But by all means, PLEASE be the next guy to Xv1 me with 10+ people and then teabag me after to show me how awesome you are at ragetargeting with massive amounts of help. I relish it.

But please do try to come at me by yourself and learn like a whole list of other trashtalkers how ungodly difficult I am to kill solo. Think I am joking? Last e-peener that tried spent over 20 minutes, rolling around on the floor dodging everything back until I was just bored of it and walked away (with him spambushing me the whole way there). Yes walked, into Fort Ash and ported. Im built to jump headfirst into zergs of people, as crown, and not die easily while doing so. All while being a damage sorc. So, have fun with that one.

It was 17 minutes actually..

Telel · April 2016

So, this one must now ask.

How many more daggets has this brought over to the server, and how many pacters has this dragged up out of the sewers so that the PVP is a bit less one-sided?

And Telel is truly not asking this to mock any pointless arguing that some less humble sorts might be wasting much time one. Because that would be silly yes?

Rylana · April 2016

Telel wrote: »

So, this one must now ask.

How many more daggets has this brought over to the server, and how many pacters has this dragged up out of the sewers so that the PVP is a bit less one-sided?

And Telel is truly not asking this to mock any pointless arguing that some less humble sorts might be wasting much time one. Because that would be silly yes?

As far as I can tell, the only people that have shown up, and just a couple times between other obligations, are me and my guild for a few primetime hours here and there

Otherwise the pops look about the same as they did before I noticed what was going on. We werent there last night, had some business elsewhere, but the sewer EP seem to be staying put, and other than Invictus coming over for 20 minutes or so the first night we were back, I havent seen any other guilds besides Immortali who I believe never left.

The sewer EP groups are part of the problem as well, they never come out unless EP has taken emp or most of the map, its been this way for months. So even with 3 bars pop some nights, its really maybe 1 - 1/2 bars of actual aboveground population.

So basically its Khole + a few randoms/soloers for DC

DR (a few nights a week until Azuras resets in 8 days), Immortali, M4D maybe?, and a few randoms for EP

And about five or six guilds + randoms for AD. Its extremely imbalanced. I mean, AD having a queue of 110 when both other factions were at 2 bars on Friday night should tell the whole story.

Telel · April 2016

Ah. So life, stage, fury, etc, etc with an Elizabethan sonnet.