vMOL Final Boss Loot - getting nothing!

EgoRush · April 2016

So, clearing vMOL multiple times a week means we're getting zero loot after the first run from the last boss. Two clears today have given me white/green random loot. No jewellery, nothing.

Considering the effort the trial takes we really should be getting purple/gold jewellery at the last boss? Surely?

actosh · April 2016

Wow.....if this is true zeni just *** it up again ^^.
You are right, if u can down him that often each kill should give loot. Wasnt there something mentioned in patch notes regarding loot?

At keast u can do more runs to see if it happenz over and over again.

If they ever fix it expect NO ETA or the next quarter where they need money aka dark brotherhood dlc.

Paulington · April 2016

Did two runs a few days ago and got nothing. So that's three hours of my time for absolutely zero loot out of ten possible loot drops.

How is this still a thing? The one thing I am worried about is the precedent this states for future content. Are future Trials and Dungeons going to have this RNG-on-RNG loot system? We aren't being rewarded for our time or effort and nothing has been mentioned about this even being sorted or a reason given for why it works this way.

shugg · April 2016

Had this on normal toi, no loot at all last night. I yhough it might be down to only 1 clear a week gives loot on each mode...

Ruben · April 2016

You could use a different alt on each run.

actosh · April 2016

Found it. Powered by zenifail online. Last patch

Once per week, Veteran Rakkhat will award one Gold-quality jewelry set piece. Subsequent Veteran victories will have a reduced chance to award one Purple-quality set piece.
Once per week, Hard Mode Rakkhat will award two Gold-quality jewelry set pieces, as well as The Rid-Thar's Moon Pearls - an item valued at 10,000 gold by any honest merchant. Subsequent Hard Mode victories will award one Gold-quality jewelry set piece.

Seems like they want to prevent the ammound of gold loot u get.....so u may run it just once a week. Seems a drop id per character....

Ruben · April 2016

actosh wrote: »

Seems like they want to prevent the ammound of gold loot u get.....so u may run it just once a week. Seems a drop id per character....

actosh wrote: »

Subsequent Hard Mode victories will award one Gold-quality jewelry set piece.

It looks like hard mode is the only farmable thing in MoL.

actosh · April 2016

Looks this way ^^

Paulington · April 2016

actosh wrote: »

Found it. Powered by zenifail online. Last patch

Once per week, Veteran Rakkhat will award one Gold-quality jewelry set piece. Subsequent Veteran victories will have a reduced chance to award one Purple-quality set piece.
Once per week, Hard Mode Rakkhat will award two Gold-quality jewelry set pieces, as well as The Rid-Thar's Moon Pearls - an item valued at 10,000 gold by any honest merchant. Subsequent Hard Mode victories will award one Gold-quality jewelry set piece.

Seems like they want to prevent the ammound of gold loot u get.....so u may run it just once a week. Seems a drop id per character....

Yeah we know that you are only guaranteed loot from each boss on your first kill each week per character and that is simply unacceptable and makes no sense. No other part of the game doesn't reward you for time spent. You might get bad loot but you will get loot. Not in Maw of Lorkhaj!

This system is farcical and brings a bit of shame to the Trial itself which is otherwise fantastic. I just hope ZOS are listening, gets rid of this system as soon as possible and never brings it back.

Also, WTB token system.

Function · April 2016

Honestly whoever is in charge of loot distribution should be fired, and it should of happened a long time ago.. they really have to idea what they are doing. You have to really hate people to implement a multiplicative RNG loot system, hate them so much that you waste countless hours of their lives (and they will still be no closer to getting what they want).

It is really sad that it is actually getting even worse with "loot cooldowns".. why did they ever think that was a good idea? Sure, for normal that is fine, but veteran? If someone is beating extremely difficult content that not many people can even do.. don't they deserve a reward? I think so, no matter the amount of times they do it.

Or if they do keep this system, at least make your loot system REWARDING. For example, I have completed veteran maelstrom arena about 200 times now.. did I want to do it that many times? No, I have kept running it because with the terrible multiplicative RNG loot system that is currently in place I still haven't gotten lucky and received the one weapon combination that I have been after since my first run (sharpened inferno). Am I any closer to getting my desired item with each run? No. So technically all 200 of those runs have been a complete waste of my time. Each run takes me about an hour, that comes out to a little over a week of my life that I have spent actually in the maelstrom arena going after one item.

All I want is to be rewarded for my effort, I want some sort of light at the end of the tunnel.

LadyNalcarya · April 2016

Function wrote: »

Honestly whoever is in charge of loot distribution should be fired, and it should of happened a long time ago.. they really have to idea what they are doing. You have to really hate people to implement a multiplicative RNG loot system, hate them so much that you waste countless hours of their lives (and they will still be no closer to getting what they want).

It is really sad that it is actually getting even worse with "loot cooldowns".. why did they ever think that was a good idea? Sure, for normal that is fine, but veteran? If someone is beating extremely difficult content that not many people can even do.. don't they deserve a reward? I think so, no matter the amount of times they do it.

Or if they do keep this system, at least make your loot system REWARDING. For example, I have completed veteran maelstrom arena about 200 times now.. did I want to do it that many times? No, I have kept running it because with the terrible multiplicative RNG loot system that is currently in place I still haven't gotten lucky and received the one weapon combination that I have been after since my first run (sharpened inferno). Am I any closer to getting my desired item with each run? No. So technically all 200 of those runs have been a complete waste of my time. Each run takes me about an hour, that comes out to a little over a week of my life that I have spent actually in the maelstrom arena going after one item.

All I want is to be rewarded for my effort, I want some sort of light at the end of the tunnel.

I agree, gear grind is absolutely ridiculous. And there's one thing I cannot understand: why the most difficult content is supposed to be less rewarding than mindless grind? Content like vMoL requires a lot of time and effort so it should be just as rewarding. Or vMA... Seriously, just killing random mobs gives me gold and items for deconstruction, but in vMA I only waste gold on repairs and potions. Drop rate of good items is a joke, I dont even wanna know how many runs I did to get my inferno staff.
@ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can you please give us an aswer, why the hardest content is less rewarding than grinding? How can it encourage us, players, to conquer it?

Sotha_Sil · April 2016

Previously you had HM rewards and now you have nothing because you know...ZOS LOGIC

Hjelmerina · April 2016

Getting a golden piece per week would be okay if you would at least always be able to get a purple loot from last boss in vMoL afterwards.

timidobserver · April 2016

Instead of actually doing vMoL you should just be facerolling a bunch of alts through Hel-Ra.

Woeler · April 2016

Hjelmerina wrote: »

Getting a golden piece per week would be okay if you would at least always be able to get a purple loot from last boss in vMoL afterwards.

^This

Oh_Skrivva · April 2016

Gear grind in eso has become purgatory. A game we all loved and enjoyed to play is now punishing us over and over. When will it end?

Therwind · April 2016

It's not designed for loot. It's a combat simulator and you should feel special to even step foot into something so special.

failkiwib16_ESO · April 2016

Are they just asking endgamers to kindly quit the game or something? O.o

Honestly over half of the old members of my guild quit ESO for other games, they return with new DLC's and do some solo questing, see all the horrible RNG and grind from group content and decides to leave it once more for a singleplayer game.

My lowbies are happy though, they do stuff like veteran Elden Hollow and if they succeed they get all hyped up. I see them show off their Maw and Bogdan helmets in my guildchat on a daily base.

Kyoma · April 2016

It really is an insult that even on vet you only have a chance at getting loot from last boss. I can understand it for the other bosses but the last one? Really? Let alone the fact that it might not even be jewelry from the last boss.....

L2Pissue · April 2016

1) do normal MoL once a week, chance of blue new loot
2) do vet MoL once a week, 100% chance of jewelry on last boss ( 1 gold)
3)well.. do vet MoL HM, 100% chance of 2 jewelry pieces last boss(2 gold)
doing MoL HM still no easy though. so u might stick to first two.

Nifty2g · April 2016

This is the main issue why I am wanting to stop playing, not because I can't get my gear because of the endless gear grind that comes with this game. Let me explain why.

We have the hardest content beat, we can continuously beat it and we are not being rewarded ***, we use about 100 potions per run on average, the trial is massive and we use so many soul gems too. We get terrible loot from killing bosses, loot that is on a *** COOLDOWN, why is it on a cooldown, why is it okay to beat your hardest content and get white gear from bosses, further more this is something I'd expect from normal to reduce farming normal for end game gear.

But putting a cooldown on Veteran is beyond me I don't understand the reasoning. And honestly if this doesn't get changed no one is going to farm this *** and you're going to lose even more players, you make the grind endless and more unforgiving each content release you do. Random traits, random *** weapon with sets on them, random everything. White gear for beating the last boss in MOL on Veteran.

Fix your loot system up Zenimax, it's a joke

Nifty2g · April 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Finn

Please remove loot cooldown from veteran mode. Players should be rewarded for beating hardest content, not punished. It honestly doesn't make any sense to do this.

LadyNalcarya · April 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Finn

Please remove loot cooldown from veteran mode. Players should be rewarded for beating hardest content, not punished. It honestly doesn't make any sense to do this.

This ^

Nifty2g · April 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFa_TPQKWrI

Prime example

Xjcon · April 2016

Reminds of the SO gear grind but worse. Are we to expect the same thing to happen that happened in 1.6? Grind/work at gearing with this RNG only for the gear to be useless come the next quarterly DLC? If this is the case I'll just throw in the towel.

SienneYviete · April 2016

The thing that really makes this unbelievably stupid is that no other trial was ever given this amount of stupid treatment..... why now ZOS?

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code65536 · April 2016

Well, SO/HRC/AA did have those once-a-week coffers. Though that didn't affect the regular boss drops.

LadyNalcarya · April 2016

Xjcon wrote: »

Reminds of the SO gear grind but worse. Are we to expect the same thing to happen that happened in 1.6? Grind/work at gearing with this RNG only for the gear to be useless come the next quarterly DLC? If this is the case I'll just throw in the towel.

In SO youre guaranteed to get a random Yokeda/Ophidian/Aether piece every time you beat the Serpent+a coffer every week. So it was still a better system, despite RNG on traits.

EgoRush · April 2016

Other than Worm/Hircine/Ebon all the gear is BOP too. It's not like we're going to flood guild traders with gold/purple Moondancer jewellery that only a select few can obtain. We're going to vendor most of it for 68 gold. At least that is better than giving us white and green loot.

Sigh, I guess we gotta get good at hard mode and farm that.

Nifty2g · April 2016

EgoRush wrote: »

Other than Worm/Hircine/Ebon all the gear is BOP too. It's not like we're going to flood guild traders with gold/purple Moondancer jewellery that only a select few can obtain. We're going to vendor most of it for 68 gold. At least that is better than giving us white and green loot.

Sigh, I guess we gotta get good at hard mode and farm that.

Shouldn't have to, barely anyone can beat veteran, why the *** doesnt gold always drop from veteran 2 from hardmode. Pathetic.

Wollust · April 2016

I really wanna know who came up with that idea.
Must be an intern or so.