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Remove Guild Traders/Stores
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BoloBoffin✭✭✭✭✭Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with... (see comment)...randomly assigned stores for all bidders.
The top 50 bidders get the top 50 spots for the whole week (as determined by volume of gold generated at each vendor). The rest get cycled through the boondock locations for a hour at a time.
If a guild drops their top location, bidder #51 gets that spot. Etc, etc.
At the end of the week, the bids for the cycled guilds are refunded at a prorate for actual time on a vendor - if your store was only available 10% of the time, your guild gets 90% of the bid back. Or you get 90% back after a flat fee. However Zos thinks it's fair.Been there, got the Molag Bal polymorph.0 -
daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with global or faction Auction HouseI'm cautiously in favour of a single auction house. The guild store model was supposed to prevent certain disruptive behaviours (e.g. buying up all of a given item and reposting at higher prices), but experience has shown that it's ineffective. Given that there are only maybe a dozen worthwhile guild traders, a few people can and indeed have influenced prices substantially.
On the other hand, the model has major disadvantages, the biggest of which is the difficulty and time investment required to find certain rare items.
I would much prefer a global auction house with some measures to prevent market failures, such as the inability to repost bought items, or a relatively large cooldown to do so.Edited by daemonios on April 12, 2016 8:10PM5 -
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✭Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interfaceHow many are like me and would likely leave the game if they removed the guild traders?1 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interfaceShadowStarKing wrote: »Yes, get rid of them its dumb when you want to sell you HAVE to find a guild and pay them to make money (besides zone chat).
I just want to sell whenever I please with no penalty free. Thats how it was in Runescape with the Grand Exchange and it was awesome people were almost never broke because they allways could sell their items their
Why are u paying to sale that's what some guilds ask to help bid buts it's not a requirement and if it is.....leave now and join another-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Anti_Virus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with global or faction Auction HouseNewBlacksmurf wrote: »ShadowStarKing wrote: »Yes, get rid of them its dumb when you want to sell you HAVE to find a guild and pay them to make money (besides zone chat).
I just want to sell whenever I please with no penalty free. Thats how it was in Runescape with the Grand Exchange and it was awesome people were almost never broke because they allways could sell their items their
Why are u paying to sale that's what some guilds ask to help bid buts it's not a requirement and if it is.....leave now and join another
No, guilds require payment to keep the traders that's why you have to pay, but if there was an AH you wouldn't need to pay to sell
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✭Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with global or faction Auction HouseShadowStarKing wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »ShadowStarKing wrote: »Yes, get rid of them its dumb when you want to sell you HAVE to find a guild and pay them to make money (besides zone chat).
I just want to sell whenever I please with no penalty free. Thats how it was in Runescape with the Grand Exchange and it was awesome people were almost never broke because they allways could sell their items their
Why are u paying to sale that's what some guilds ask to help bid buts it's not a requirement and if it is.....leave now and join another
No, guilds require payment to keep the traders that's why you have to pay, but if there was an AH you wouldn't need to pay to sell
Woops read to quick when you mentioned paying for bids, but yeah leaving a guild wouldn't fix the problem I'll have to find a new one to sell IEdited by Anti_Virus on April 12, 2016 9:22PMPower Wealth And Influence.0 -
Randomchaos✭✭Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with global or faction Auction HouseLooking for a trader guild IIRANDOM CHAOS Xbox one N/A I don't have a problem with the way the traders work at the moment but does need a Ui update0
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Skayaq✭✭✭✭✭Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interfaceTake the AwesomeGuildStore addon and make it the standard ui on pc and consoles.Kazari-Dar, Khajiit Nightblade..........Jarkyr Storm-Blade, Nord Sorcerer .......... Dunric Amedain, Breton Templar
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phairdon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with... (see comment)I'd like to see the guild stores all linked to one search function in the character screen. So all we need to do is hit one key, the search interface comes up, giving us the ability to search all trade guilds without the inconvenience of traveling around every single zone trying to find items. Either the fore mentioned or a auction house/horse.Edited by phairdon on April 12, 2016 9:39PMYour immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interfaceShadowStarKing wrote: »ShadowStarKing wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »ShadowStarKing wrote: »Yes, get rid of them its dumb when you want to sell you HAVE to find a guild and pay them to make money (besides zone chat).
I just want to sell whenever I please with no penalty free. Thats how it was in Runescape with the Grand Exchange and it was awesome people were almost never broke because they allways could sell their items their
Why are u paying to sale that's what some guilds ask to help bid buts it's not a requirement and if it is.....leave now and join another
No, guilds require payment to keep the traders that's why you have to pay, but if there was an AH you wouldn't need to pay to sell
Woops read to quick when you mentioned paying for bids, but yeah leaving a guild wouldn't fix the problem I'll have to find a new one to sell I
There is always a tax to list items and the guild gets a cut to help pay for the trader. Even a global AH will have some percentage of tax.Beta tester November 20131 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interfaceShadowStarKing wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »ShadowStarKing wrote: »Yes, get rid of them its dumb when you want to sell you HAVE to find a guild and pay them to make money (besides zone chat).
I just want to sell whenever I please with no penalty free. Thats how it was in Runescape with the Grand Exchange and it was awesome people were almost never broke because they allways could sell their items their
Why are u paying to sale that's what some guilds ask to help bid buts it's not a requirement and if it is.....leave now and join another
No, guilds require payment to keep the traders that's why you have to pay, but if there was an AH you wouldn't need to pay to sell
Uhm no they want you to pay but you don't have to.
There are opportunities to be in guilds with traders who don't require this.
Seems it's ur assumption or choice to pay.
Just wanted to share that it's not a requirement even tho some use this to build revenue for bidding or whatever else cause that's the problem. Stop paying and the bid prices go down.Edited by NewBlacksmurf on April 12, 2016 10:11PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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✭✭✭✭✭Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with... (see comment)The thing that bothers me most about the current system is that traders are so scattered. It can take hours to find an item you want and unless you actually enjoy that it's just wasted time. It genuinely puts me off trading with other players the vast majority of the time.
I don't mind keeping it linked to guilds in some way, but I'd much rather have a single location to visit to find out what's for sale.
(I also didn't pick the top option because I'd much prefer to stick to direct sales rather than having to sell everything by auction. Auctions as an additional option could be interesting, I know some players already organise auctions in-game, but not as the only option.)PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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✭✭✭Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with global or faction Auction HouseReally dislike running around to every big city to not find the item I'm after.
Plus I think the global market would encourage more crafting from players due to the ability to make money from it.
BUT this global market would really be successful if most the bound items became unbound2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with... (see comment)Get rid of guild traders.
In every major city (one per zone for each of the three factions), add a local auction house.
Allow guilds to purchase listing slots at an auction house for gold. Do not make it a bidding war like with guild traders, but instead have a set price per week that a guild needs to meet for a specific number of auction slots. If a guild wants to list 100 items for sale, they need to buy 100 auction slots. Auction slots should be purchased in 30, 60, 90, 120, 240, and 600 block sets.
Guild members can list an unlimited number of items within their guild store (accessible to other guild members), or they can list directly to a local auction house until the number of auction slots for that guild are used up.
And for the love of everything holy, give us a gorram text search option at each auction house.PS4 / NA
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Gulkrim-mur✭✭✭Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are, including the interfaceDefiantly no auction house but guild traders should perhaps be located in one major area possibly introducing new dlc? Traders Guild or somthin and throw in some new gears and quests blah blah.1
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✭✭✭✭✭Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interfaceDrInsanity666 wrote: »Defiantly no auction house but guild traders should perhaps be located in one major area possibly introducing new dlc? Traders Guild or somthin and throw in some new gears and quests blah blah.
Makes sense....I think some proposed a housing zone with a trader market place BUT would the server die or would this so called zone have to be phased and or highly zoned ?-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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umagon✭✭✭✭✭I would like them to add global trading house that searches through the cartels' listings but also allows people who don't want to join a cartel to make listings globally. And they need to add a trade chat channel.1
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SkoomaAddict420✭✭✭I would like to see global trading houses for players who don't have a guilds. Just because your in a guild though, doesn't mean you will be able to trade. Because the guilds have to keep them spots. The global trade should be for individual players, not guilds. The guilds should still be able to trade at their trade post spreed through out Tamriel. It takes a lot of grinding everything to get very little gold...1
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✭Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interfaceGuild trader is a good gold sink and a unique system. They should keep it. BUT the interface and the guild management DIRE NEED an improvement. Guild leader should be able to set guild tax, so they don't have to spend so much time doing raffle. There need to be a searching tool, and better catalog.1 -
Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interfaceWhy do I have to travel around the world to find a specific item? Especially since you cannot filter searches. A free game like never winter has an auction house #justsaying
becuz you are playing on a MEGASERVER, you cant have 4 or 5 servers worth of players on ONE Auction House.Edited by badmojo0777b14_ESO on April 13, 2016 2:59AM1 -
Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interfacePlease please please please keep guild traders the way they are with possibly some improved interface sorting, searching, etc.
the way guild traders and guilds are separates ESO out from other games and I enjoy that.1 -
TARAFRAKA✭✭✭✭✭Randomchaos wrote: »Looking for a trader guild IIRANDOM CHAOS Xbox one N/A I don't have a problem with the way the traders work at the moment but does need a Ui update
I'll shoot you an invite right. I'm gm of Lords of Legion. We have a trader
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✭✭Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with... (see comment)badmojo0777b14_ESO wrote: »
You can't? Try playing gw2. Megaservers with one trading post.Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)1 -
Marktoneth3✭✭✭Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with global or faction Auction HouseShould remove this guild trader.
They're not good for economy.Many people that have items but not have guilds can't even sell there stuff.
And when they want to sell there stuff they need to join guild and you know what ?
They still can't make money out of its because those trader guilds can't use a good merchant in big city.
So every time they want to sell something to the other more than their guild............They can't.
Most people say yes here because they're old players and want their guild to control a price and they don't want to lose profit.
I'm an economist I want to tell you that this game is *** up economy system.3 -
Marktoneth3✭✭✭Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with global or faction Auction HouseRight now is Oligopoly not for long before they become Monopoly.0
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mrkurokishi✭✭✭Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interfaceI play on console and how the guild traders are set up now is fine with me though they should put in a keyword search. What I wish would happen is that they made the guild traders in areas other than Rawl''kha, Elden Root, Mournhold and Stormhaven more accessible or relevantEdited by mrkurokishi on April 13, 2016 4:57AMPS4 : mrkurokishiBancha: AD Khajiit magCro (main)
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✭✭✭There needs to be something done, that much is clear.
While I'd prefer an auction house, an option to search for specific items would be a nice additionArgonian forever1 -
lookstwice✭✭✭Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interfaceJust posting to to test a theory I just figured out. If it's yellow, then I was right, but late to the party.
EDIT: very cool. if you are confused, i just put together that the different colored squares on posts are what people picked in the poll. mind blown!!!Edited by lookstwice on April 13, 2016 5:35AM1 -
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✭Haven't read the thread but thought I would chime in with my opinion on trading in eso. My main issue with the current system is that there aren't enough npcs to go around, so they get bid on with stupid prices and only the most successful guilds get an npc trader. These successful guilds only have room for 500 players, so to have a decent chance of selling something you need to sell regularly and profitably to keep your place in the trading guild. This excludes any casual sellers from being in these top guilds and therefore excludes them from having an easy time selling their wares. Perhaps this is intended, perhaps it rewards dedicated sellers, and perhaps it's good for the economy idk. But you'd think regularly selling stuff would come with it's own monetary rewards, and therefore getting exclusive opportunity to sell wouldn't be necessary.
I'm prepared to be schooled in the finer points of mmo economy if what I just said doesn't make sense for whatever reason.PC | EU1