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  • Anzriel
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    Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interface
    JJBaboon wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    The guild traders are one of the best aspects of the game; they let us sell what we don't need, and buy what we do need.

    If your complaint is that these traders are a pain on a console, then get a PC and stop telling yourself that you can play games like ESO games on game box. You need an actual computer to play complex games like ESO. Game boxes don't have the horsepower to effectively play games like ESO. This is why I think releasing ESO to game boxes was a big mistake. They did it just for the money and it's created more problems than it's solved IMO. And, it's taken time and focus away on improving the actual game because now they are catering to kids on their squishy game boxes.

    Can't tell if this is a troll... Someone poke it and see if it gets angry...

    It's a troll.

    That being said I think both the guild trade system as well as guilds need some improvements, especially for consoles. PC and consoles are different platforms so those systems need to be tailored to a console player's needs. I'd also like to see a few tweaks for PC's version as well of course.
  • Arkvoril
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    Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interface
    Acharnor wrote: »
    I agree with Obliterate! When I am playing I always switch back to the PC interface when going to a merchant. Finding stuff on console is painful I imagine.

    This is what I do also. When I head into town to sell, or just getting into the menu's in general, I turn off GamePad Beta, and go back to the keyboard and mouse. GamePad interface is just horrible.

    And a big ol' "FAT NO" to Auction House's. I really enjoy the search for goods in other lands. Makes me travel. ESO should not have an "Amazon" or "E-bay". It is to easy to stand in one spot and acquire any goods you want at anytime. Lazy mans way of shopping is the Auction House.
    Edited by Arkvoril on April 12, 2016 2:48PM
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  • Nestor
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    The only things I have to spend much time looking for are rare items. And, it should take time and effort to look for those. All Mundane items are sold by most kiosks for pretty much the same prices (at least on PC). So, everyday Mats and Ingredients and items are readily available. That last recipe I need to get all of them, it is going to take me a while, and it has taken me a while. I will enjoy it that much more once I do find it.
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  • Obliterate
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    Nestor wrote: »
    The only things I have to spend much time looking for are rare items. And, it should take time and effort to look for those. All Mundane items are sold by most kiosks for pretty much the same prices (at least on PC). So, everyday Mats and Ingredients and items are readily available. That last recipe I need to get all of them, it is going to take me a while, and it has taken me a while. I will enjoy it that much more once I do find it.

    The main issue is on console, try navigating through everything and constantly re-searching using a controller. :'(
    Edited by Obliterate on April 12, 2016 2:43PM
  • Chaquinho89
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    Guild traders are fine, a global auction house would make the economy even worse than it already is, it would be a global fight for getting the best price and sell faster, making valuable items prices drop or even go higher than what is supposed to be.
    Although the vanilla interface is really bad, you feel forced to use addons, for those who play on consoles, I feel bad for you not having this possibility...
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  • Zorrashi
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    Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interface
    It's going to be year 10 and we're still going to get "Current System vs. Auction House" debates.
  • Tarrin
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    Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interface
    Searching, as basic improvement.
    Maybe filters from Awesome guildstore.

    Nothing more.

    Everyday i`m selling at 20k. I like it.
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  • Cadbury
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    Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are and improve the interface
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Obliterate wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    The guild traders are one of the best aspects of the game; they let us sell what we don't need, and buy what we do need.

    If your complaint is that these traders are a pain on a console, then get a PC and stop telling yourself that you can play games like ESO games on game box. You need an actual computer to play complex games like ESO. Game boxes don't have the horsepower to effectively play games like ESO. This is why I think releasing ESO to game boxes was a big mistake. They did it just for the money and it's created more problems than it's solved IMO. And, it's taken time and focus away on improving the actual game because now they are catering to kids on their squishy game boxes.

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    There is no logic in what you have just said, pretty idiotic to be honest. All the money they have earned from the console copies, console crown store purchases and console subscribers isn't helping the game, no? So much logic bro.

    Look who just proved my point. Like I said, catering to kids on their squishy game boxes was a mistake.

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  • Mcwoods55
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    Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with... (see comment)
    JJBaboon wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    The guild traders are one of the best aspects of the game; they let us sell what we don't need, and buy what we do need.

    If your complaint is that these traders are a pain on a console, then get a PC and stop telling yourself that you can play games like ESO games on game box. You need an actual computer to play complex games like ESO. Game boxes don't have the horsepower to effectively play games like ESO. This is why I think releasing ESO to game boxes was a big mistake. They did it just for the money and it's created more problems than it's solved IMO. And, it's taken time and focus away on improving the actual game because now they are catering to kids on their squishy game boxes.

    Can't tell if this is a troll... Someone poke it and see if it gets angry...

    The specs of ps4 are just as good as many pcs being used to play this game... PCs are outdated within 3 months of being built so don't start on that... Yes you can easily upgrade them constantly but come on...
  • Obliterate
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    Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with global or faction Auction House
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Obliterate wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    The guild traders are one of the best aspects of the game; they let us sell what we don't need, and buy what we do need.

    If your complaint is that these traders are a pain on a console, then get a PC and stop telling yourself that you can play games like ESO games on game box. You need an actual computer to play complex games like ESO. Game boxes don't have the horsepower to effectively play games like ESO. This is why I think releasing ESO to game boxes was a big mistake. They did it just for the money and it's created more problems than it's solved IMO. And, it's taken time and focus away on improving the actual game because now they are catering to kids on their squishy game boxes.

    There is no logic in what you have just said, pretty idiotic to be honest. All the money they have earned from the console copies, console crown store purchases and console subscribers isn't helping the game, no? So much logic bro.

    Look who just proved my point. Like I said, catering to kids on their squishy game boxes was a mistake.

    @Cavedog

    Maybe if they didn't broaden their market to consoles the game wouldn't even be running to date, you don't know where a majority of their income comes from and neither do I so you stating "it's taken time and focus away on improving the actual game" as a fact is frankly a load of ****.

    We have every right to expect change just as you do. There is things that can be improved on it, it is NOTHING to do with the performance of the console, it runs the game perfectly. So once again, no logic, well done :D .
    Edited by Obliterate on April 12, 2016 2:55PM
  • sekou_trayvond
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    Change nothing. Love it the way it is.
  • RebornV3x
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    Would like to see more guild traders but honestly I don't care if they get rid of them for a global auction place or not I like what they did with the guild traders.
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  • Cavedog
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    Obliterate wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Obliterate wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    The guild traders are one of the best aspects of the game; they let us sell what we don't need, and buy what we do need.

    If your complaint is that these traders are a pain on a console, then get a PC and stop telling yourself that you can play games like ESO games on game box. You need an actual computer to play complex games like ESO. Game boxes don't have the horsepower to effectively play games like ESO. This is why I think releasing ESO to game boxes was a big mistake. They did it just for the money and it's created more problems than it's solved IMO. And, it's taken time and focus away on improving the actual game because now they are catering to kids on their squishy game boxes.

    There is no logic in what you have just said, pretty idiotic to be honest. All the money they have earned from the console copies, console crown store purchases and console subscribers isn't helping the game, no? So much logic bro.

    Look who just proved my point. Like I said, catering to kids on their squishy game boxes was a mistake.

    @Cavedog

    Maybe if they didn't broaden their market to consoles the game wouldn't even be running to date, you don't know where a majority of their income comes from and neither do I so you stating "it's taken time and focus away on improving the actual game" as a fact is frankly a load of ****.

    We have every right to expect change just as you do. There is things that can be improved on it, it is NOTHING to do with the performance of the console, it runs the game perfectly. So once again, no logic, well done :D .

    Didn't you say earlier that the interface for guild stores on the console is different than it is on PC? So no, the console does not play the full version of ESO, it plays a dumbed down version of ESO that your squishy game box can handle.

    What was that you were saying about logic again?
  • zerosingularity
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    Leave Guild Traders/Stores as they are, including the interface
    So many of these threads pop up, and it is always in favor of keeping traders.

    Auction house will kill the economy probably, and adds more grief to users.

    No need to change the interface since we have good mods for that on PC, though if said mod became the vanilla, I would be cool with that.

    Rather they devote resources to better things, like performance, content, and pets/houses.
    Edited by zerosingularity on April 12, 2016 3:10PM
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  • Obliterate
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    Remove Guild Traders/Stores and replace with global or faction Auction House
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Obliterate wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Obliterate wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    The guild traders are one of the best aspects of the game; they let us sell what we don't need, and buy what we do need.

    If your complaint is that these traders are a pain on a console, then get a PC and stop telling yourself that you can play games like ESO games on game box. You need an actual computer to play complex games like ESO. Game boxes don't have the horsepower to effectively play games like ESO. This is why I think releasing ESO to game boxes was a big mistake. They did it just for the money and it's created more problems than it's solved IMO. And, it's taken time and focus away on improving the actual game because now they are catering to kids on their squishy game boxes.

    There is no logic in what you have just said, pretty idiotic to be honest. All the money they have earned from the console copies, console crown store purchases and console subscribers isn't helping the game, no? So much logic bro.

    Look who just proved my point. Like I said, catering to kids on their squishy game boxes was a mistake.

    @Cavedog

    Maybe if they didn't broaden their market to consoles the game wouldn't even be running to date, you don't know where a majority of their income comes from and neither do I so you stating "it's taken time and focus away on improving the actual game" as a fact is frankly a load of ****.

    We have every right to expect change just as you do. There is things that can be improved on it, it is NOTHING to do with the performance of the console, it runs the game perfectly. So once again, no logic, well done :D .

    Didn't you say earlier that the interface for guild stores on the console is different than it is on PC? So no, the console does not play the full version of ESO, it plays a dumbed down version of ESO that your squishy game box can handle.

    What was that you were saying about logic again?

    @Cavedog

    I never said it was different :D but we don't use a mouse to hover around the screen and click things fast so the interface needs to be optimized for consoles [snip]

    [Edit to remove bait]
    Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on April 12, 2016 7:14PM
  • Zerok
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    I don't care about guild traders, but there should be a way to search all of them at once.

    It's stupid we have to rely on a third party website for something basic as a meta-search function.
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  • Nestor
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    Obliterate wrote: »
    The main issue is on console, try navigating through everything and constantly re-searching using a controller. :'(

    Our stock Guild Store interface is just as bad as it is on the consoles.
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  • Obliterate
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Obliterate wrote: »
    The main issue is on console, try navigating through everything and constantly re-searching using a controller. :'(

    Our stock Guild Store interface is just as bad as it is on the consoles.

    Oh really? Apparently it's just our "squishy consoles" :D

    @Cavedog
  • DMBCML
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    Solariken wrote: »
    I like the current system, but it needs some changes.

    I think the trader NPCs should despawn/respawn in a different/random trader kiosk every day (any of the predetermined trader locations throughout Tamriel).

    There should be a central NPC where guild leaders go to hire one of the specific traders from a list. The more gold paid, the better the % chance of your trader spawning in a high traffic location.

    This tweak would limit monopoly situations and give more equality of opportunity to trading guilds, while also allowing for more varied selling exposure to all faction areas.


    This is a good idea. The only things I would change are that the price should be fixed and there should be a guild trader for every guild that qualifies. The reason I say the price should be fixed is so that all the traders spawn randomly in all types of traffic areas dispersing traffic to all guilds and removing the desire to shop in only one or two cities. This would require the addition of guild traders.

    Bidding well over a million gold every week, even in less than prime locations) is craziness. It means many qualifying guilds don't get to participate in the guild trader system.

    The guild trader system works best because it prevents any one person or small group of people from controlling the market by buying low and selling high. In other MMOs I've played with central markets, I didn't even bother to engage in economic activity. But ESO has a fun system and I engage wholeheartedly. If they put in a central market, it will ruin the market aspect of the game for me.

    From the looks of the guild trader locations, clearly the plan has been to include more traders over time because many of the locations have more than one stall already there. They just need the NPC activated for those stalls.
  • waterfairy
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    I'm willing to bet that most people who voted to leave as is are the ones making a ton of money off of locking down the best trader spots.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    I dont know how anyone could play this on a console to be honest. I would at minimum need a keyboard. Id be fine with any changes to console as long as PC isnt changed.
    Edited by jamesharv2005ub17_ESO on April 12, 2016 3:52PM
  • Obliterate
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    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    I dont know how anyone could play this on a console to be honest. I would at minimum need a keyboard. Id be fine with any changes to console as long as PC isnt changed.

    I know what you mean, but I've never played it on PC so it comes naturally. It was confusing at first, but I got the hang of it pretty quickly.
    Edited by Obliterate on April 12, 2016 3:54PM
  • Nestor
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    Obliterate wrote: »

    Oh really? Apparently it's just our "squishy consoles" :D

    @Cavedog

    It has been so long since I have used the stock interface, but setting up search filters on each transaction is something I do remember doing, and not liking.

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  • Obliterate
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    Yeah it would be cool if we could use addons on console, but the more likely option is that Zenimax introduce some addons themselves for consoles rather than trying to get a similar system to PC onto console.
  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    I dont know how anyone could play this on a console to be honest. I would at minimum need a keyboard. Id be fine with any changes to console as long as PC isnt changed.
    It's actually pretty easy.

    1) Pick up controller
    2) Push buttons.
    3) Game does stuff in reaction to #2.

    lol

    ;)

    Even when I play on my PC account, I still use a controller. It's actually not anywhere near as bad (IMO) as people make it out to be.

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  • DMBCML
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    Vigarr wrote: »
    I'm willing to bet that most people who voted to leave as is are the ones making a ton of money off of locking down the best trader spots.

    Not entirely. It's just the poll was inadequately posited for those who would like changes other than what is allowed for by the questions. The choices are to remove, adjust the interface, and do nothing. The changes proposed by @Solariken don't really fit in those categories, but they are very good ideas.

  • Shadesofkin
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    Add more, maybe give a search option for individual vendors, but don't remove them in favor of centralized auction houses, it's bad economics.
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  • notimetocare
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    mubzander wrote: »
    Why do I have to travel around the world to find a specific item? Especially since you cannot filter searches. A free game like never winter has an auction house #justsaying

    I filter searches just fine. Leave the interface to modders and leave the Devs to fix the game parts that are broken
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    I dont know how anyone could play this on a console to be honest. I would at minimum need a keyboard. Id be fine with any changes to console as long as PC isnt changed.
    It's actually pretty easy.

    1) Pick up controller
    2) Push buttons.
    3) Game does stuff in reaction to #2.

    lol

    ;)

    Even when I play on my PC account, I still use a controller. It's actually not anywhere near as bad (IMO) as people make it out to be.

    How do you play without text chat and without, well, text? heh thats my confusion.
    Edited by jamesharv2005ub17_ESO on April 12, 2016 4:10PM
  • Cavedog
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    Obliterate wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    I dont know how anyone could play this on a console to be honest. I would at minimum need a keyboard. Id be fine with any changes to console as long as PC isnt changed.

    I know what you mean, but I've never played it on PC so it comes naturally. It was confusing at first, but I got the hang of it pretty quickly.

    Exactly. You don't know what you are talking about.

    ESO had to be dumbed down and simplified so a gamebox could handle the game. So, complaining that your game box can't keep up is not reasonable or logical. Play on PC or mac and your problems are solved. It's not an issue with Zenimax, it's an issue with your game box not being able to handle the full game.
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