Champion Point Removal?

Forestd16b14_ESO · April 2016

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

uh .... ok ? What is your friend smoking then ?

ZOS added CP to replace the removal of vet ranks so why would they remove CP and vet ranks ?

they have said in a q&a that they are gonna remove vet ranks eventually

Uh yea in the DB update.

DannyLV702 · April 2016

Find new friends

Dubhliam · April 2016

pareidolon wrote: »

Dubhliam wrote: »

Smileybones wrote: »

How can someone be VR16 and only have 80 champion points ? I'm actually VR10 and sit on about 180 of them.

The "catchup" enlightenment wasn't always in place.
Before they implemented this mechanic, all players would get the same amount of CPs per exp regardless of how many CPs they had.

So if a player grinded his way to v16 back when he did not have the catchup mechanic, and did not play since... that would mean he could be beneath the 160CP mark that his v16 gear would require upon VR removal.

I'd like to know if ZOS has officially said they're going to equate 10 CP to each VR for purposes of equipment, or if players are just using the ratio hypothetically.

I'm about halfway between v9 and v10 and I have 188 CP (I was around v2-3 when they changed the XP/VP scales). Just as a kind of sanity check, I attempted to use a calculation for CP cost to see how many CP one should have if starting with the current system. If I'm right, a player hitting v16 with nonstop enlightenment should have 331 CP (or 149 CP if they somehow never had any enlightenment).

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2457704/#Comment_2457704

To get a rough idea of balance - think of 10CP = 1 VR. (so 160 CP will roughly = VR16)

Cazic · April 2016

Veteran ranks are being removed this year. Champion points are here to stay. There is a PvP campaign which ignores CP, but thats it.

Whoever told you CP is being removed from the game is either very misinformed or just making stuff uo.

pareidolon · April 2016

Dubhliam wrote: »

pareidolon wrote: »

Dubhliam wrote: »

Smileybones wrote: »

How can someone be VR16 and only have 80 champion points ? I'm actually VR10 and sit on about 180 of them.

The "catchup" enlightenment wasn't always in place.
Before they implemented this mechanic, all players would get the same amount of CPs per exp regardless of how many CPs they had.

So if a player grinded his way to v16 back when he did not have the catchup mechanic, and did not play since... that would mean he could be beneath the 160CP mark that his v16 gear would require upon VR removal.

I'd like to know if ZOS has officially said they're going to equate 10 CP to each VR for purposes of equipment, or if players are just using the ratio hypothetically.

I'm about halfway between v9 and v10 and I have 188 CP (I was around v2-3 when they changed the XP/VP scales). Just as a kind of sanity check, I attempted to use a calculation for CP cost to see how many CP one should have if starting with the current system. If I'm right, a player hitting v16 with nonstop enlightenment should have 331 CP (or 149 CP if they somehow never had any enlightenment).

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2457704/#Comment_2457704

To get a rough idea of balance - think of 10CP = 1 VR. (so 160 CP will roughly = VR16)

Thanks! What this suggests to me is that looking ahead (assuming this is part of the next content patch), it's more important to think about upping champion points steadily than trying to grind quickly through many vet levels on double experience week

DRXHarbinger · April 2016

Did anyone actually hit 3600 champ points? Could you dump like 1000 into recovery alone?

RebornV3x · April 2016

This is why I turn off area chat when I'm in Riften or Mournhold

Enodoc · April 2016

pareidolon wrote: »

I'd like to know if ZOS has officially said they're going to equate 10 CP to each VR for purposes of equipment, or if players are just using the ratio hypothetically.

@pareidolon In one of the posts by Rich Lambert, he said this was one of the options they were looking at. It isn't confirmed that this is what they are going to do yet, though.

Edit: Oops, didn't read page 2. I see someone already linked that

DannyLV702 · April 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Did anyone actually hit 3600 champ points? Could you dump like 1000 into recovery alone?

There is a limit of 100 CPs per perk

Acharnor · April 2016

This whole issue is like a game of broken telephone. LOL. From my understanding Vet Ranks gone. Champ Points here to stay forever and ever. Which I am looking forward to so when you level up new characters to 50 they will automatically be leveled to what is currently V16 should you have a character that high. Sorry if I muddied the waters further. Stay Tuned.

Valrien · April 2016

Someone please delete this thread before the sheep read the title, get scared, and start complaining.

tinythinker · April 2016

Valrien wrote: »

Someone please delete this thread before the sheep read the title, get scared, and start complaining.

WalkingLegacy · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

Haven't heard anything on champion points being removed but if they want to make it easier to balance MMO they'll smarten up and remove it.

If they go solo player route, it'll be here for good.

Why would yo say Champion Points are for solo playing? Just wondering.

Because it's a hook. Gotta get that next point. One more point and I'll log off.

Grind those points. Staple of RPGs. Like the paragon system from D3.

Mcwoods55 · April 2016

Paulington wrote: »

Veteran Ranks are being removed with Dark Brotherhood in April, May or June (Q2 this year) and the Champion System is the replacement for Veteran Ranks. They are not removing Champion Points.

Come Dark Brotherhood, we'll all be dropped to level 50 and gear will be gated based on CP instead of VR.

My question is when they drop us to 50 we will lose our extra 15 magica, stam, or health points correct?

What compensation will they give us? More CPs?

Mcwoods55 · April 2016

KatzMainTank wrote: »

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Champion points are here to stay. Veteran ranks will be removed.

Once veteran ranks will be removed, you will gain some c-points, depending on your highest ranked character... minimum to allow you to still use all your gear. So, if you had a V16, and only 80 c-points, you#d get them raised to 160 to use all the V16-equivalent gear.

There are now "champion point disabled" campaigns, for those people who don't want to have to fear getting stomped in cyrodil just because the other player has way more c-points. From what I have seen, the PvPlayers seem to migrate away from those... so we shall see.

And champion points never are "lost" - you can spend them ot not, but every point earned stays with your account. Champion points can only be earned by V1 or higher characters, which will translate to level 50 characters come the DB DLC... but every character that gets there can earn c-points (I mean, duh, they would not want to make the game completely unattractive to new players with some "you must be V1 by this time" rule... )

This

So what happens if you have 300+ CPs.. Is there any compensation for us? We will be losing our extra points in health, magica, and stamina.... I assume.

tinythinker · April 2016

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

Veteran Ranks are being removed with Dark Brotherhood in April, May or June (Q2 this year) and the Champion System is the replacement for Veteran Ranks. They are not removing Champion Points.

Come Dark Brotherhood, we'll all be dropped to level 50 and gear will be gated based on CP instead of VR.

My question is when they drop us to 50 we will lose our extra 15 magica, stam, or health points correct?

What compensation will they give us? More CPs?

They said a while ago some levels from 1-50 will get more attribute points when you reach them, can't recall which levels but they were multiples of 5.

idk · April 2016

CP is not being removed from the game. The devs have not even suggested that.

There are 2 Ava caomoains where CP points do not affect the character while in that campaign. Only while in the campaign.

WeerW3ir · April 2016

lets remove CP-s and add another 501 VR rank

aDistortedMind · May 2016

I have 3 avatars at VR16, with a 150 CP or total 450, does the new system mean that all my avatars will be brought back to the now lvl VR15.

wayfarerx · May 2016

aDistortedMind wrote: »

I have 3 avatars at VR16, with a 150 CP or total 450, does the new system mean that all my avatars will be brought back to the now lvl VR15.

@aDistortedMind

Dark Brotherhood Deep-Dive: What Veteran Rank Removal Means for your Character

Turbotailz · May 2016

So what are going to happen to the attribute points that Vranks offer every level? Do they stay or V16 players attributes removed?

wayfarerx · May 2016

Turbotailz wrote: »

So what are going to happen to the attribute points that Vranks offer every level? Do they stay or V16 players attributes removed?

@Turbotailz

Dark Brotherhood Deep-Dive: What Veteran Rank Removal Means for your Character

starkerealm · May 2016

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Smileybones wrote: »

How can someone be VR16 and only have 80 champion points ? I'm actually VR10 and sit on about 180 of them.

There's a catch system in place now.

50 tov16 before that was implemented got you about 70 CP I think.

You earn them a lot quicker now though.

Well when they introduced the champ system there were no V16s. VR12 I believe was the cap then. We were tho limited no matter how much xp we had earned after that to 70cp. Now a VR12 will have way more because of being enlightened and xp scrolls etc.

It was V14, you'd get 5 CP per Vet Rank when they were originally added.

Turbotailz · May 2016

wayfarerx wrote: »

Turbotailz wrote: »

So what are going to happen to the attribute points that Vranks offer every level? Do they stay or V16 players attributes removed?

@Turbotailz

Dark Brotherhood Deep-Dive: What Veteran Rank Removal Means for your Character

Thank you

DurzoBlint13 · May 2016

you could just look at the New announcement that explains exactly what will happen when they remove vet ranks. It is on this site under the NEWS section. Tells you what you want to know without any idiotic guesses by people that never research anything for themselves

nimander99 · May 2016

Your guildmates are confusing the Non CP Campaign that is coming with CP removal, which will not happen... Ever.