5000 Crowns for the upcoming assistants. Worth it ? ^^

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · April 2016

I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

Palidon wrote: »

The assistants are limited on what they can do and not worth the 5000 crowns. An example, you can find Merchants traveling the roads of Tamriel that will buy, sell and repair. The personal merchant cannot repair or sell. For 5000 crowns it's a Rip off.

This has been my thought ever since PTS. I don't get the real value nor does I see a 5k price rage as even logical regardless of how frivolous or how many crowns someone may have.

Heck I still have 20k crowns and I don't see either as a logical purchase.

Garldeen · April 2016

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?

All very true but judging by an earlier post in this thread, they have not done enough to communicate the limits of the assistants to people prior to purchase. If people decide to buy with full knowledge of exactly what it does, then that is fine. However, 5,000 crowns is a lot of money for people who thought the assistant did something it doesn't do.

Not stating clearly enough the limits of what it doesn't do seems a little shady to me, especially when a lot of people are buying it for the functions you mention

Kalebron · April 2016

In time I will have obtained both, but I am really enjoying the fact that I don't have to run back to town to discard all my junk items and that i can just sell them while I fight endlessly. Thanks ZOS for making the game more fun for me.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · April 2016

wonkydog wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?

All very true but judging by an earlier post in this thread, they have not done enough to communicate the limits of the assistants to people prior to purchase. If people decide to buy with full knowledge of exactly what it does, then that is fine. However, 5,000 crowns is a lot of money for people who thought the assistant did something it doesn't do.

Not stating clearly enough the limits of what it doesn't do seems a little shady to me, especially when a lot of people are buying it for the functions you mention

I am pretty sure if you ask for a refund on that purchase because you didnt understand the limitations they will refund your money. Ive seen them refund prepaid gametime as well. I absolutely agree tho the store descriptions are not clear enough.

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?

It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.

So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.

See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....

$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.

Thats how it impacts others

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · April 2016

Why are you guys acting like the person I was talking to bought the assistants and then wasnt happy with the purchase? The OP was upset because they cost too much. Said it ruined the game. Im just trying to figure out how a convenience item like that would ruin the entire game for someone.

MissBizz · April 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?

It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.

So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.

See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....

$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.

Thats how it impacts others

@NewBlacksmurf I do agree that the tooltips for the assistants are VERY unclear. If you already know, you can pick out that they only say "personal" bank etc. on the banker but that is absolutely not clear enough. It needs to state there is NO guild bank access and no guild store. As well - the merchant needs to state it does not sell anything nor does it repair gear. I can absolutely agree with you on that.

On the other note, I bought the banker last night. I didnt' play but had to do a round of "inventory cleanup" to be ready to play today. I didn't need to port a single character. I enjoyed it, and I see myself using that banker tonight when I'm out and about and my inventory gets full.. just dump everything into my bank and carry on.

Are they overpriced for what they do? Yeah. But I'm willing to pay the price for the minuscule amount of time they save me.

IrishGirlGamer · April 2016

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Now Im curious what appearance/race changes and player housing will cost after having seen these prices.

It would depend on a number of factors, but if Zenimax really wanted to maximize it's profits for player housing, it would make as many features as possible dependent on a player owning the housing DLC.

For example, assuming the house sells for 5000 crowns. Just the space. Maybe some basic furniture.

Furniture upgrades are 1000 crowns each.

Crafting stations are 1500 crowns each.

Mirror (to edit your appearance) is 3000 crowns each (and dependent on you owning a house).

Bank access another 2000 crowns.

Extra storage 3000 crowns.

Shrines of Mara, etc. are 2000 crowns each.

And so on.

I'm expecting to have to sink at least 10,000 crowns into housing. I've never really imagined it any other way. And I don't think Zenimax is trying to rip people off; in this case, they're just taking advantage of functionality players have said they wanted.

This is what I find so surprising about the merchants/bankers. Who came up with this idea? Maybe they would sell more at 1000 gold. But I'm still not seeing the convenience.

Say I quest for an hour. I can summon my banker and deposit my stuff into the bank. But wait, my bank is almost always on the edge of being full anyway. Now I have to deconstruct/sell some stuff. So now I have to summon a merchant. I sell some stuff, but I have a lot of stuff I need to deconstruct. Egggghhh. So I'm heading back to town anyway.

Right now (in my game) that town is going to be Daggerfall in Glenumbra. So now I'm questing and I don't own the merchant/banker. My inventory is full, I run to a wayshrine and in two clicks I'm in Daggerfall. In less than a minute later I can access my bank, a guild bank, a guild store, a merchant and all the crafting stations.

Meh. I just don't see the convenience. I wouldn't buy them at any price.

But ... imagine player housing. Yeah. Now, instead of running to a wayshrine, I'm going to teleport home. Inside my house I can access my bank, crafting stations, maybe some extra storage, respec, and so on. That's convenience I'd be willing to pay for.

Garldeen · April 2016

We are not saying the business cannot mak

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Why are you guys acting like the person I was talking to bought the assistants and then wasnt happy with the purchase? The OP was upset because they cost too much. Said it ruined the game. Im just trying to figure out how a convenience item like that would ruin the entire game for someone.

If people are very happy with their purchase then all is good, everyone is happy. On the other hand, I couldn't enjoy play a game where lots of people have spent a lot of money on something only to find out the functions are very limited. Not everyone has a lot of disposable income and for people to spend it and find out they have wasted it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Z are free to sell whatever they want at whatever price they want. The market will determine whether that price is right. Just have full disclosure about what that item can and cannot do so people are making informed decisions.

It is not a nice feeling buying something, in real life or online, only to discover it doesn't work as you thought.

As a side note. I'm not bashing the game at all. I enjoy the game and will continue to buy the DLC for a long time to come. I have no problem with mounts, costumes etc as these pretty much 'do what it says on the tin' I would have no problem with these assistants in principle.

Just to add...i'm not a red flag waving socialist

I believe in responsible capitalism

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · April 2016

wonkydog wrote: »

We are not saying the business cannot mak

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Why are you guys acting like the person I was talking to bought the assistants and then wasnt happy with the purchase? The OP was upset because they cost too much. Said it ruined the game. Im just trying to figure out how a convenience item like that would ruin the entire game for someone.

If people are very happy with their purchase then all is good, everyone is happy. On the other hand, I couldn't enjoy play a game where lots of people have spent a lot of money on something only to find out the functions are very limited. Not everyone has a lot of disposable income and for people to spend it and find out they have wasted it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Z are free to sell whatever they want at whatever price they want. The market will determine whether that price is right. Just have full disclosure about that that item can and cannot do so people are making informed decisions.

It is not a nice feeling buying something, in real life or online, only to discover it doesn't work as you thought.

The person did NOT BUY THE ASSISTANTS lord people. Please read. The OP was complaining she COULD NOT buy the assistants.

SantieClaws · April 2016

This one is concerned mostly about the impact on future crown store items.

If enough people buy these at this very high price it will encourage vast overpricing of future offerings.

If someone (say no particular khajiit around an open pocket) gets away with something once then maybe they will think they can do the same again?

What was the sales blurb for the Thieves Guild? 'Play Dirty and Get away Clean.'

This is no bad reflection on the game development side of things but in the balance of power between the accountants and marketing types against the artists, developers and those who generally want to build and run a good game then that balance needs to always be in favour of the latter - because the former will drag the game into the ground for every last bean they can squeeze out of it.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

daemonios · April 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?

It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.

So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.

See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....

$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.

Thats how it impacts others

Not just that. ZOS seem to be testing the waters very thoroughly with time-limited exclusives and overpriced convenience items. By validating them you're pushing them to move the devs' focus onto the next big cash cow instead of content or fixes.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · April 2016

daemonios wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?

It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.

So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.

See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....

$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.

Thats how it impacts others

Not just that. ZOS seem to be testing the waters very thoroughly with time-limited exclusives and overpriced convenience items. By validating them you're pushing them to move the devs' focus onto the next big cash cow instead of content or fixes.

According to who? What makes you think that the same people who code new content also work on these? I dont think we should be belittling people for what they chose to do with their own money. Im not buying either one but I dont bash on anyone who chooses to do so.

daemonios · April 2016

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?

It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.

So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.

See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....

$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.

Thats how it impacts others

Not just that. ZOS seem to be testing the waters very thoroughly with time-limited exclusives and overpriced convenience items. By validating them you're pushing them to move the devs' focus onto the next big cash cow instead of content or fixes.

According to who? What makes you think that the same people who code new content also work on these? I dont think we should be belittling people for what they chose to do with their own money. Im not buying either one but I dont bash on anyone who chooses to do so.

I'm not saying it's the same people. I'm saying if you were ZOS and people were buying your overpriced useless pixels, would you try to keep the crown store team happy or the rest of the coders? If opportunity presents itself, would you expand one or the other? It's all down to the money. That's why I despise cash stores in games. I'm happy to pay a monthly subscription, and indeed have done so for the past 2 years. I'm *not* happy to validate a bottomless money pit model with freeloaders and whales alike.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · April 2016

daemonios wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?

It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.

So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.

See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....

$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.

Thats how it impacts others

Not just that. ZOS seem to be testing the waters very thoroughly with time-limited exclusives and overpriced convenience items. By validating them you're pushing them to move the devs' focus onto the next big cash cow instead of content or fixes.

According to who? What makes you think that the same people who code new content also work on these? I dont think we should be belittling people for what they chose to do with their own money. Im not buying either one but I dont bash on anyone who chooses to do so.

I'm not saying it's the same people. I'm saying if you were ZOS and people were buying your overpriced useless pixels, would you try to keep the crown store team happy or the rest of the coders? If opportunity presents itself, would you expand one or the other? It's all down to the money. That's why I despise cash stores in games. I'm happy to pay a monthly subscription, and indeed have done so for the past 2 years. I'm *not* happy to validate a bottomless money pit model with freeloaders and whales alike.

Both. Content is sold on the crown store. New zones means new motifs to list. New mounts to list. The DLC itself. if it includes a level increase then you have epople buying everything from xp scrolls to the new crown stone things for crafting.

Noone who quit is going to return to the game for an overpriced assistant. They will return for DLC tho.

Slurg · April 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Slurg wrote: »

It'll be interesting to see the in game chatter about these now that people are buying them and can really tell us after using them if they are worth the 5,000 crowns.

On that, at least two people who bought them are now feeling ripped off because they didn't realise the limitations the assistants had (no Guild Bank, no Repairs).

Serves them right. If they drop $50 without so much as informing themselves about what exactly they're buying, it's all on them. I dislike the crown store and think the assistants are overpriced. But ZOS did disclose their limitations.

Technically, they didn't disclose their limitations. They stated their available features, which is not the same thing. If the potential features of something are X, Y, and Z, saying that it can do X doesn't immediately mean that it can't do Y or Z.

I mentioned this in the official feedback thread when the assistants were on PTS:

Enodoc wrote: »

I think it needs to be further clarified in the tooltips before purchase the limitations of these assistants, otherwise you may get people buying them expecting all the standard services from this sort of NPC, and not receiving them.
It needs to explicitly state that the Merchant does not have any items for sale, and does not offer repair services.

It needs to explicitly state that the Banker cannot access the Guild Bank or Guild Store.

If you read the tooltips carefully, it does imply this (the merchant "will buy anything", the banker is available for "personal banking services"), but I think further clarity is needed to avoid confusion.

Seems they didn't take that into account.

It's a shame that people bought these without knowing they were not actually the thing they thought they were buying. When someone buys a "banker" or a "merchant" it is reasonable for them to expect they are actually buying a "banker" or a "merchant", not something different with half the functionality that shares the same label. Not everyone reads the fine print.

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

MissBizz wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?

It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.

So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.

See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....

$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.

Thats how it impacts others

@NewBlacksmurf I do agree that the tooltips for the assistants are VERY unclear. If you already know, you can pick out that they only say "personal" bank etc. on the banker but that is absolutely not clear enough. It needs to state there is NO guild bank access and no guild store. As well - the merchant needs to state it does not sell anything nor does it repair gear. I can absolutely agree with you on that.

On the other note, I bought the banker last night. I didnt' play but had to do a round of "inventory cleanup" to be ready to play today. I didn't need to port a single character. I enjoyed it, and I see myself using that banker tonight when I'm out and about and my inventory gets full.. just dump everything into my bank and carry on.

Are they overpriced for what they do? Yeah. But I'm willing to pay the price for the minuscule amount of time they save me.

Sorry if I missed it but in context are you sharing how your personal experience with this does not affect others?
Are you suggesting the assistants and their crown prices, have no affect on others?

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?

It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.

So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.

See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....

$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.

Thats how it impacts others

Not just that. ZOS seem to be testing the waters very thoroughly with time-limited exclusives and overpriced convenience items. By validating them you're pushing them to move the devs' focus onto the next big cash cow instead of content or fixes.

According to who? What makes you think that the same people who code new content also work on these? I dont think we should be belittling people for what they chose to do with their own money. Im not buying either one but I dont bash on anyone who chooses to do so.

James

I think its important to recognize that while there are different teams, when it comes to crown items, all the teams are involved. Just because one team may be deemed crown store, the programing and impacts are widespread, so in context to @daemonios comments..... when we first were introduced to the crown store, it mainly offered items for convenience when it was just PC.

Then, we saw a limited time offer of mounts. This began threads asking...why ZOS was offering items not available in the game and only via crown purchases, as the original ESO live context was that they would only offer convenience items. The term as shared on ESO lead many to believe that anything in the crown store would also be available in the game so price wasn't as much of a concern. So while mounts, motif, costumes, etc are somewhat available, ZOS tested the waters with crown exclusive items that were accessible by category but not by specifics in-game.

NOW...what we have specific to assistants are explicitly features and items that are only available via crown purchase and are set at the higher price point to date in the crown store. Regardless of who is responsible for the prices in the crown store, case and point of their comment is that these assistants are only crown available. It touches all development teams who either create content, NPCs, vendors, etc. as well as it impacts trade and social aspects alike.

In conclusion to the topic and to their comment as well as others, the crown store has stepped away from what we were told, its original opportunity would be and has now moved to items that are indefinitely limited by time, crown and not available by any other means.

This has a huge impact on the game, its customers whether they choose to participate in the crown store or not. @ZOS_GinaBruno @MissBizz

*EDIT*
How it impacts others
-Well regardless of tenure and regardless of buying crowns, using ESO plus or just playing only the base game, all players are offered content. We can choose to participate or choose to ignore any and all offers, BUT the introduction of crown exclusive items that now offer additional in-game benefits that are in no other way possible, changes whether a customer's choice of purchase is actually a choice and this impacts game-play.

We all can hunt, play, trade and experience mounts, costumes, cook, craft potions, make exp pots, motif, style materials and while some limitations apply, when you as @ZOS introduce products that require crown purchase for use, its no different than DLC.

Assistants should not by any means, with these features, be required as separate purchases. I can see if there are 4 - 6 assistants available by quest line who offer one or more of these features, but that is not the case, so to respond to all. The above is specifically how it affects other players and why the price with the features offered exclusive to crown only are of concern to all players.

This will impact in-game and for certain experiences, begin to suggest one player or another to buy and use the assistants in groups. This leads into another topic on crafting bags, and is exactly the same concern and feedback. Hope this is all clear and makes sense.

If not, please quote and ask as I don't speak for everyone, but I think this particular comment covers anyone who currently plays this game as well as those to come.

Waffennacht · April 2016

Guess what? You can enter a campaign from anywhere, guess what there is a wayshrine right there, guess what? this means free teleport to anywhere from anywhere....

MissBizz · April 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?

It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.

So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.

See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....

$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.

Thats how it impacts others

@NewBlacksmurf I do agree that the tooltips for the assistants are VERY unclear. If you already know, you can pick out that they only say "personal" bank etc. on the banker but that is absolutely not clear enough. It needs to state there is NO guild bank access and no guild store. As well - the merchant needs to state it does not sell anything nor does it repair gear. I can absolutely agree with you on that.

On the other note, I bought the banker last night. I didnt' play but had to do a round of "inventory cleanup" to be ready to play today. I didn't need to port a single character. I enjoyed it, and I see myself using that banker tonight when I'm out and about and my inventory gets full.. just dump everything into my bank and carry on.

Are they overpriced for what they do? Yeah. But I'm willing to pay the price for the minuscule amount of time they save me.

Sorry if I missed it but in context are you sharing how your personal experience with this does not affect others?
Are you suggesting the assistants and their crown prices, have no affect on others?

Sorry, I was intending as that to be like a different part of my post - not associated with the initial part.

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Then, we saw a limited time offer of mounts. This began threads asking...why ZOS was offering items not available in the game and only via crown purchases, as the original ESO live context was that they would only offer convenience items. The term as shared on ESO lead many to believe that anything in the crown store would also be available in the game so price wasn't as much of a concern. So while mounts, motif, costumes, etc are somewhat available, ZOS tested the waters with crown exclusive items that were accessible by category but not by specifics in-game..../...
-Well regardless of tenure and regardless of buying crowns, using ESO plus or just playing only the base game, all players are offered content. We can choose to participate or choose to ignore any and all offers, BUT the introduction of crown exclusive items that now offer additional in-game benefits that are in no other way possible, changes whether a customer's choice of purchase is actually a choice and this impacts game-play.
.../...
This leads into another topic on crafting bags, and is exactly the same concern and feedback. Hope this is all clear and makes sense.

If not, please quote and ask as I don't speak for everyone, but I think this particular comment covers anyone who currently plays this game as well as those to come.

- Assistants do not do anything that a regular banker/merchant in a city doesn't do - in fact they do less.
- Crafting bags are NOT Crown Shop items, they are (will be) ESO+ feature.

You're really complaining about nothing at all. None of this is going to impact any of us. Those who want the assistants buy them (and have benefits), those who don't want to, don't (and have no inconvenience).

I think this game has enough real problems to avoid seeing yet other problems where there are none.

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svartorn · April 2016

I might have done the merchant if he repaired.

Both would be much more useful if they worked in IC.

Alas, its just more half-assed crap from ZOS.

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Then, we saw a limited time offer of mounts. This began threads asking...why ZOS was offering items not available in the game and only via crown purchases, as the original ESO live context was that they would only offer convenience items. The term as shared on ESO lead many to believe that anything in the crown store would also be available in the game so price wasn't as much of a concern. So while mounts, motif, costumes, etc are somewhat available, ZOS tested the waters with crown exclusive items that were accessible by category but not by specifics in-game..../...
-Well regardless of tenure and regardless of buying crowns, using ESO plus or just playing only the base game, all players are offered content. We can choose to participate or choose to ignore any and all offers, BUT the introduction of crown exclusive items that now offer additional in-game benefits that are in no other way possible, changes whether a customer's choice of purchase is actually a choice and this impacts game-play.
.../...
This leads into another topic on crafting bags, and is exactly the same concern and feedback. Hope this is all clear and makes sense.

If not, please quote and ask as I don't speak for everyone, but I think this particular comment covers anyone who currently plays this game as well as those to come.

- Assistants do not do anything that a regular banker/merchant in a city doesn't do - in fact they do less.
- Crafting bags are NOT Crown Shop items, they are (will be) ESO+ feature.

You're really complaining about nothing at all. None of this is going to impact any of us. Those who want the assistants buy them (and have benefits), those who don't want to, don't (and have no inconvenience).

I think this game has enough real problems to avoid seeing yet other problems where there are none.

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Correction...the assistants do things outside of towns that otherwise is not accessible.
Its not comparable to suggest go to town if you don't want these...given the TG quest assistant

All other convenience items are comparable in exact use of in-game opportunities outside of crown stores.

Pigment · April 2016

The only way I can ever see needing a portable bank/merchant is if I'm mob grinding and want to clear my bag. Seems like a waste of crowns to me $:\$

Korah_Eaglecry · April 2016

People are already posting threads in the ESO Plus and Crown Store Section complaining about the misleading descriptions and lack of information regarding the services limits.

Numerous people who BOUGHT the product are now stating they feel cheated and ripped off.

NobleNerd · April 2016

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

I bought them both.

*chokes on her coffee*

LMFAO!!!!

ESO Plus member?

NobleNerd · April 2016

NeKryXe wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Now Im curious what appearance/race changes and player housing will cost after having seen these prices.

are we going to have a player house like in skyrim? i wasn't aware of that. for such a thing i would pay 2500 crowns for sure

With player housing (based on previous delays or cancellations) I would not expect it this year.

MacCait · April 2016

I didn't see this post in General section, but made a post in Crown Store section...

I think this is apalling and the wording in the crown store is highly misleading. It needs to be changed and anyone who wants a refund because they have been tricked should get one if they request it. That is only fair.

The wording in the crown store is specifically misleading. Most people do not review every single thing in the forums, and most do not even use the forums!! We are of a very very small percentage of players here!

The crown store text specifically states: ..."available for ALL personal banking SERVICES"

The wording in the crown store specifically states that it offers multiple services. The words 'All' and 'service's' are plural, meaning more than one service. A standard npc banker offers multiple services, such as bank, guild banks, guild store. This crown store text specifically states that the assistant offers ALL personal banking SERVICES. Therefore, a consumer expects the purchase to do what it says.

The banking assistant offers ONE service, to access your bank. So, the store info specically says it offers one thing, YET does not fullfil that statement. It is misleading and therefore a con. That is pretty appalling and it needs to be fixed ASAP. Anyone who fell prey to this mistake or con needs to be refunded.

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

MacCait wrote: »

I didn't see this post in General section, but made a post in Crown Store section...

I think this is apalling and the wording in the crown store is highly misleading. It needs to be changed and anyone who wants a refund because they have been tricked should get one if they request it. That is only fair.

The wording in the crown store is specifically misleading. Most people do not review every single thing in the forums, and most do not even use the forums!! We are of a very very small percentage of players here!

The crown store text specifically states: ..."available for ALL personal banking SERVICES"

The wording in the crown store specifically states that it offers multiple services. The words 'All' and 'service's' are plural, meaning more than one service. A standard npc banker offers multiple services, such as bank, guild banks, guild store. This crown store text specifically states that the assistant offers ALL personal banking SERVICES. Therefore, a consumer expects the purchase to do what it says.

The banking assistant offers ONE service, to access your bank. So, the store info specically says it offers one thing, YET does not fullfil that statement. It is misleading and therefore a con. That is pretty appalling and it needs to be fixed ASAP. Anyone who fell prey to this mistake or con needs to be refunded.

exactly....one point and the other is the crown exclusivity of the assistants.