The assistants are limited on what they can do and not worth the 5000 crowns. An example, you can find Merchants traveling the roads of Tamriel that will buy, sell and repair. The personal merchant cannot repair or sell. For 5000 crowns it's a Rip off.
The assistants are limited on what they can do and not worth the 5000 crowns. An example, you can find Merchants traveling the roads of Tamriel that will buy, sell and repair. The personal merchant cannot repair or sell. For 5000 crowns it's a Rip off.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?
All very true but judging by an earlier post in this thread, they have not done enough to communicate the limits of the assistants to people prior to purchase. If people decide to buy with full knowledge of exactly what it does, then that is fine. However, 5,000 crowns is a lot of money for people who thought the assistant did something it doesn't do.
Not stating clearly enough the limits of what it doesn't do seems a little shady to me, especially when a lot of people are buying it for the functions you mention
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?
It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.
So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.
See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....
$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.
Thats how it impacts others
Septimus_Magna wrote: »Now Im curious what appearance/race changes and player housing will cost after having seen these prices.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Why are you guys acting like the person I was talking to bought the assistants and then wasnt happy with the purchase? The OP was upset because they cost too much. Said it ruined the game. Im just trying to figure out how a convenience item like that would ruin the entire game for someone.
We are not saying the business cannot makjamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Why are you guys acting like the person I was talking to bought the assistants and then wasnt happy with the purchase? The OP was upset because they cost too much. Said it ruined the game. Im just trying to figure out how a convenience item like that would ruin the entire game for someone.
If people are very happy with their purchase then all is good, everyone is happy. On the other hand, I couldn't enjoy play a game where lots of people have spent a lot of money on something only to find out the functions are very limited. Not everyone has a lot of disposable income and for people to spend it and find out they have wasted it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Z are free to sell whatever they want at whatever price they want. The market will determine whether that price is right. Just have full disclosure about that that item can and cannot do so people are making informed decisions.
It is not a nice feeling buying something, in real life or online, only to discover it doesn't work as you thought.
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?
It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.
So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.
See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....
$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.
Thats how it impacts others
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?
It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.
So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.
See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....
$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.
Thats how it impacts others
Not just that. ZOS seem to be testing the waters very thoroughly with time-limited exclusives and overpriced convenience items. By validating them you're pushing them to move the devs' focus onto the next big cash cow instead of content or fixes.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?
It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.
So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.
See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....
$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.
Thats how it impacts others
Not just that. ZOS seem to be testing the waters very thoroughly with time-limited exclusives and overpriced convenience items. By validating them you're pushing them to move the devs' focus onto the next big cash cow instead of content or fixes.
According to who? What makes you think that the same people who code new content also work on these? I dont think we should be belittling people for what they chose to do with their own money. Im not buying either one but I dont bash on anyone who chooses to do so.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?
It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.
So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.
See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....
$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.
Thats how it impacts others
Not just that. ZOS seem to be testing the waters very thoroughly with time-limited exclusives and overpriced convenience items. By validating them you're pushing them to move the devs' focus onto the next big cash cow instead of content or fixes.
According to who? What makes you think that the same people who code new content also work on these? I dont think we should be belittling people for what they chose to do with their own money. Im not buying either one but I dont bash on anyone who chooses to do so.
I'm not saying it's the same people. I'm saying if you were ZOS and people were buying your overpriced useless pixels, would you try to keep the crown store team happy or the rest of the coders? If opportunity presents itself, would you expand one or the other? It's all down to the money. That's why I despise cash stores in games. I'm happy to pay a monthly subscription, and indeed have done so for the past 2 years. I'm *not* happy to validate a bottomless money pit model with freeloaders and whales alike.
It's a shame that people bought these without knowing they were not actually the thing they thought they were buying. When someone buys a "banker" or a "merchant" it is reasonable for them to expect they are actually buying a "banker" or a "merchant", not something different with half the functionality that shares the same label. Not everyone reads the fine print.Technically, they didn't disclose their limitations. They stated their available features, which is not the same thing. If the potential features of something are X, Y, and Z, saying that it can do X doesn't immediately mean that it can't do Y or Z.Serves them right. If they drop $50 without so much as informing themselves about what exactly they're buying, it's all on them. I dislike the crown store and think the assistants are overpriced. But ZOS did disclose their limitations.On that, at least two people who bought them are now feeling ripped off because they didn't realise the limitations the assistants had (no Guild Bank, no Repairs).It'll be interesting to see the in game chatter about these now that people are buying them and can really tell us after using them if they are worth the 5,000 crowns.
I mentioned this in the official feedback thread when the assistants were on PTS:Seems they didn't take that into account.I think it needs to be further clarified in the tooltips before purchase the limitations of these assistants, otherwise you may get people buying them expecting all the standard services from this sort of NPC, and not receiving them.If you read the tooltips carefully, it does imply this (the merchant "will buy anything", the banker is available for "personal banking services"), but I think further clarity is needed to avoid confusion.
- It needs to explicitly state that the Merchant does not have any items for sale, and does not offer repair services.
- It needs to explicitly state that the Banker cannot access the Guild Bank or Guild Store.
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?
It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.
So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.
See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....
$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.
Thats how it impacts others
@NewBlacksmurf I do agree that the tooltips for the assistants are VERY unclear. If you already know, you can pick out that they only say "personal" bank etc. on the banker but that is absolutely not clear enough. It needs to state there is NO guild bank access and no guild store. As well - the merchant needs to state it does not sell anything nor does it repair gear. I can absolutely agree with you on that.
On the other note, I bought the banker last night. I didnt' play but had to do a round of "inventory cleanup" to be ready to play today. I didn't need to port a single character. I enjoyed it, and I see myself using that banker tonight when I'm out and about and my inventory gets full.. just dump everything into my bank and carry on.
Are they overpriced for what they do? Yeah. But I'm willing to pay the price for the minuscule amount of time they save me.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?
It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.
So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.
See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....
$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.
Thats how it impacts others
Not just that. ZOS seem to be testing the waters very thoroughly with time-limited exclusives and overpriced convenience items. By validating them you're pushing them to move the devs' focus onto the next big cash cow instead of content or fixes.
According to who? What makes you think that the same people who code new content also work on these? I dont think we should be belittling people for what they chose to do with their own money. Im not buying either one but I dont bash on anyone who chooses to do so.
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand how the game is ruined for you because they sell an almost useless assistant on the store. Nothing changes for you. You are still the same as you were before this thing came out. I dont get how a banker you cant access guild store or guild bank is useful to anyone. The merchant even more so. If he cant repair then he is of no use. If your bags are full how much you bet your gear is probably beat up too?
It impacts us all as a real like story,
Me and a real life friend were playing on Xbox One yesterday and while in town, we overheard a proximity chat conversation where about 5 or 6 people saw a merchant in town. Started asking about it and trying to group with aa player who encouraged them to buy their own.
So one of them made the purchase and grouped many others to allow some access .....all to realize...BAM, these things cant do what the regular merchants can do.
See what happens is these assistants allow other players to impact another persons' experiences, maybe even those gullible enough to buy things on their own without looking up details cause the crown store information is very vague.....
$80 spent and now the entire town is bashing these assistants.
Thats how it impacts others
@NewBlacksmurf I do agree that the tooltips for the assistants are VERY unclear. If you already know, you can pick out that they only say "personal" bank etc. on the banker but that is absolutely not clear enough. It needs to state there is NO guild bank access and no guild store. As well - the merchant needs to state it does not sell anything nor does it repair gear. I can absolutely agree with you on that.
On the other note, I bought the banker last night. I didnt' play but had to do a round of "inventory cleanup" to be ready to play today. I didn't need to port a single character. I enjoyed it, and I see myself using that banker tonight when I'm out and about and my inventory gets full.. just dump everything into my bank and carry on.
Are they overpriced for what they do? Yeah. But I'm willing to pay the price for the minuscule amount of time they save me.
Sorry if I missed it but in context are you sharing how your personal experience with this does not affect others?
Are you suggesting the assistants and their crown prices, have no affect on others?
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Then, we saw a limited time offer of mounts. This began threads asking...why ZOS was offering items not available in the game and only via crown purchases, as the original ESO live context was that they would only offer convenience items. The term as shared on ESO lead many to believe that anything in the crown store would also be available in the game so price wasn't as much of a concern. So while mounts, motif, costumes, etc are somewhat available, ZOS tested the waters with crown exclusive items that were accessible by category but not by specifics in-game..../...
-Well regardless of tenure and regardless of buying crowns, using ESO plus or just playing only the base game, all players are offered content. We can choose to participate or choose to ignore any and all offers, BUT the introduction of crown exclusive items that now offer additional in-game benefits that are in no other way possible, changes whether a customer's choice of purchase is actually a choice and this impacts game-play.
.../...
This leads into another topic on crafting bags, and is exactly the same concern and feedback. Hope this is all clear and makes sense.
If not, please quote and ask as I don't speak for everyone, but I think this particular comment covers anyone who currently plays this game as well as those to come.
anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Then, we saw a limited time offer of mounts. This began threads asking...why ZOS was offering items not available in the game and only via crown purchases, as the original ESO live context was that they would only offer convenience items. The term as shared on ESO lead many to believe that anything in the crown store would also be available in the game so price wasn't as much of a concern. So while mounts, motif, costumes, etc are somewhat available, ZOS tested the waters with crown exclusive items that were accessible by category but not by specifics in-game..../...
-Well regardless of tenure and regardless of buying crowns, using ESO plus or just playing only the base game, all players are offered content. We can choose to participate or choose to ignore any and all offers, BUT the introduction of crown exclusive items that now offer additional in-game benefits that are in no other way possible, changes whether a customer's choice of purchase is actually a choice and this impacts game-play.
.../...
This leads into another topic on crafting bags, and is exactly the same concern and feedback. Hope this is all clear and makes sense.
If not, please quote and ask as I don't speak for everyone, but I think this particular comment covers anyone who currently plays this game as well as those to come.
- Assistants do not do anything that a regular banker/merchant in a city doesn't do - in fact they do less.
- Crafting bags are NOT Crown Shop items, they are (will be) ESO+ feature.
You're really complaining about nothing at all. None of this is going to impact any of us. Those who want the assistants buy them (and have benefits), those who don't want to, don't (and have no inconvenience).
I think this game has enough real problems to avoid seeing yet other problems where there are none.
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Thealteregoroman wrote: »Thealteregoroman wrote: »I bought them both.
*chokes on her coffee*
LMFAO!!!!
Septimus_Magna wrote: »Now Im curious what appearance/race changes and player housing will cost after having seen these prices.
are we going to have a player house like in skyrim? i wasn't aware of that. for such a thing i would pay 2500 crowns for sure
I didn't see this post in General section, but made a post in Crown Store section...
I think this is apalling and the wording in the crown store is highly misleading. It needs to be changed and anyone who wants a refund because they have been tricked should get one if they request it. That is only fair.
The wording in the crown store is specifically misleading. Most people do not review every single thing in the forums, and most do not even use the forums!! We are of a very very small percentage of players here!
The crown store text specifically states: ..."available for ALL personal banking SERVICES"
The wording in the crown store specifically states that it offers multiple services. The words 'All' and 'service's' are plural, meaning more than one service. A standard npc banker offers multiple services, such as bank, guild banks, guild store. This crown store text specifically states that the assistant offers ALL personal banking SERVICES. Therefore, a consumer expects the purchase to do what it says.
The banking assistant offers ONE service, to access your bank. So, the store info specically says it offers one thing, YET does not fullfil that statement. It is misleading and therefore a con. That is pretty appalling and it needs to be fixed ASAP. Anyone who fell prey to this mistake or con needs to be refunded.