So they announce PVP arenas and battlegrounds are coming and noone talks about it?

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO · March 2016

laced wrote: »

Arenas were the nail in the coffin. First ranked was 8 v8 s, then arenas came, and pvp died pretty much instantly. Instead of supporting 8 v8s with new content, they simply did the lazy 4 v 4 model and bam, dead pvp.

I do agree with that point. If PvP were the ONLY thing they had screwed up, the community would have been relatively forgiving, I think.

But you're right - I think it was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back for a LOT of people.

Reykice · March 2016

I did not speak of it but i`m eagerly waiting for it... best feature in most mmo`s i played. Keeps you playing if done right.

Vaoh · March 2016

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

I'll just leave this here. 2014 footage.

https://youtu.be/HMzrkRluWbU
https://m.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2wwqw6/discussion_possible_pvp_options_coming_to_eso/

What is this game? It looks so fun!!!!

beamy93 · March 2016

Doncellius wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

I'll just leave this here. 2014 footage.

https://youtu.be/HMzrkRluWbU
https://m.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2wwqw6/discussion_possible_pvp_options_coming_to_eso/

What is this game? It looks so fun!!!!

The game we'll never see unfortunately.

Dubhliam · March 2016

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Dubhliam wrote: »

There has been a lot of mostly talk about Justice PvP, not duels. edit: on the forum

Although many of those that want Justice PvP (around 70%of the playerbase) will be thrilled by PvP arenas, I could not care less.

I just wanted to be a cop.

How do you get to that 70% of the playerbase number?

technohic wrote: »

75% of statistics are made up right on the spot.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/240929/justice-system-pvp-please-explain-exactly-why-you-are-for-against-this-content/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/250967/if-it-was-grief-proof-would-you-like-to-see-justice-system-phase-2-pvp/p1

ArchMikem · March 2016

Even with dedicated PvP places being made available to people, there are still going to be those who absolutely must resort to ganking in Cyrodiil because they can and they get off to the assumed raging the victim falls into.

Nevertheless even if Arena's offer fair PvP fights I still wound't do it. A casual underpowered player like myself against a Vet16 Gold gear 5,000+ damage "pro"?

Yeah, you guys have fun.

blackweb · March 2016

ZoS Devs,

NO BGs! NO ARENAS!

When I want to play WoW, I play WoW. When I wasn't to play ESO, I play ESO.

I did not sign up to play another wow closne.

Leader of Phoenix Battalion Guild DC-NA.

jbcrocks · March 2016

We need the option to duel pls

Sugaroverdose · March 2016

swirve wrote: »

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Isnt this what people have been waiting for? I dont see a single thread about the announcement. Arenas and battlegrounds are being worked on and are coming. Discuss.

Did they announce that CP will be reworked? Changes in TG made them a complete joke: everyone have 20+ % damage reduction and 26% damage increase, armor now is not more than costume for sets, sustain is not more than +10 secs of living.

Without fixing CP system to allow people to make unique builds, battleground will have "who shoots first - win" mechanics as well as cyrodiil now.

PS: This situation reminds me almost a year of complete imbalance in Destiny, when pvp was overruned by people with "Thorn" which guarantees you that two shots will kill your target, in result - huge amount of people just dropped the game instead of waiting for "september patch" announced in may or something like that

"We know that balance is piece of cr*ap, but hey, we have cool dlc incoming, wait for additional 3-5 month and we'll try fix it"©Bungie

"Working as intended, and yes, Wrobel wasn't fired for that"©ZOS

Don't really know what's better.

I was around during the destiny handcannon meta. I used an AR solo at that time and had no probs and i dont know anyone who dropprd the game because of it. It did however make low skilled players less rubbish and top players like triplewreck standard more of a pain. I think the squad vs solo matchmaking made it more of a problem with supers spamming this meant low skilled players got battered on / camped.
@Sugaroverdose

One little primer from those time, Trials Of Osiris:
Until win counter increases to 3 - everyone run thorn and snipe with "final round"(oneshot in any spot)
When win counter increases to 3 - everyone switches to "Gialahorn" or "Truth"
After that - everyone with Thorn, warlocks run selfressurection ultimate.

And i know what i talking about, every weekend i get "golden chest" 3 times for something like a 2-3 month.

And i dropped game mostly because of that, it's not just interesting that you forced to run with one specific weapon, same sh*t in ESO - it forces to stack damage, and don't even try to give another option.

Jade1986 · March 2016

beamy93 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

beamy93 wrote: »

Saw this in the GD page "So they announce PVP arenas and battlegrounds are coming and noo" and automatically finished it in my head as "noone will be around to see them".

Get it? Cuz the games dying.

Hmm someone forgot to tell everyone the game was dying. Sold 100,000 copies in Feb alone.

How many on PC? If you care about consoles you're the problem. Like ZOS

Oh look, a PC elitist. How refreshing. Consoles provide a large pool of income for ZoS. Without it the game would suffer really really badly for PC. I play on PC btw.

Tandor · March 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Most people bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles. .

Please confirm that is just your unsubstantiated opinion, or provide the evidence to support it if you are claiming it as fact.

teladoy · March 2016

Hahahahahahahaj arenas and battlegrounds are coming hahahahahahaha

Like veteran removal, barbershop, improvement in cyrodiil lag hahahahahahaha

Tandor · March 2016

I'm not sure that 70% of the posters in this thread want battlegrounds, let alone 70% of the playerbase

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Dubhliam · March 2016

Tandor wrote: »

I'm not sure that 70% of the posters in this thread want battlegrounds, let alone 70% of the playerbase !

I never said that. OP did not bother reading my post in full, saw a number and started arguing.

I said... 70% of people want PvP Justice.
And that some of those people would probably want arenas.
But not me.
I just want PvP Justice.

Oliumzen · March 2016

make a Dark Zone!

For those who dont have The Division, basically its an open world PvP system. where people work together to kill stuff, and you can attack other players...or not...but if you do you become "rogue" have a bounty on your head and everyone can see you on the map. Its quite fun.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · March 2016

teladoy wrote: »

Hahahahahahahaj arenas and battlegrounds are coming hahahahahahaha

Like veteran removal, barbershop, improvement in cyrodiil lag hahahahahahaha

Vet removal is coming in June with dark brotherhood. barbershop is also coming soon according to them. PVP lag isnt a feature they can add so I dont understand how its relevant to the conversation.

ZOS_MollyH · March 2016

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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · March 2016

So what exactly is the difference between arenas and battlegrounds in other games?

EsoRecon · March 2016

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

So what exactly is the difference between arenas and battlegrounds in other games?

Areans: 2v2 and 4v4

Battlegrounds: 8v8 and an objective sometimes like capture the flag

EsoRecon · March 2016

blackweb wrote: »

ZoS Devs,

NO BGs! NO ARENAS!

When I want to play WoW, I play WoW. When I wasn't to play ESO, I play ESO.

I did not sign up to play another wow closne.

Leader of Phoenix Battalion Guild DC-NA.

Pls stop

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · March 2016

I wonder will they be in cyrodill or some new area? Seems like having them in a different area would be the right way to go. With the arenas they can do the layering because its a small group of people in an instanced area. I assume it'll be instanced. One thing I was thinking would be cool is to be able to watch the matches. Maybe bet on em.

EsoRecon · March 2016

Arenas and Battlegrounds would bring life back into the PVP community. And I know you PVE players don't care about us but we would like some content too. (Waiting for someone to say ughhh you got imperial city) LMFAO XD
I have played a mmo with arenas and battlegrounds and it was very competitive. For the people that don't care about arenas or battlegrounds fine. You don't have to compete in them, but it would bring more people back to the game and add another endgame activity.

EsoRecon · March 2016

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I wonder will they be in cyrodill or some new area? Seems like having them in a different area would be the right way to go. With the arenas they can do the layering because its a small group of people in an instanced area. I assume it'll be instanced. One thing I was thinking would be cool is to be able to watch the matches. Maybe bet on em.

Yes! that sounds amazing

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · March 2016

I consider myself mainly a PVE player. I might enjoy this kind of pvp better than cyrodill type pvp with the large groups. Wish we had more info.

FENGRUSH · March 2016

Tandor wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Most people bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles. .

Please confirm that is just your unsubstantiated opinion, or provide the evidence to support it if you are claiming it as fact.

lol

EsoRecon · March 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Most people bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles. .

Please confirm that is just your unsubstantiated opinion, or provide the evidence to support it if you are claiming it as fact.

lol

Lord Fengrush is here!

DschiPeunt · March 2016

EsoRecon wrote: »

Arenas and Battlegrounds would bring life back into the PVP community. And I know you PVE players don't care about us but we would like some content too. (Waiting for someone to say ughhh you got imperial city) LMFAO XD
I have played a mmo with arenas and battlegrounds and it was very competitive. For the people that don't care about arenas or battlegrounds fine. You don't have to compete in them, but it would bring more people back to the game and add another endgame activity.

That is not true. I play mainly PvE, but I like jumping into PvP from time to time. I probably would be PvPing even more, if it was not that laggy and there would be less zerging.

As I have said before: I don't think, ESO is ready for arenas with the performance and bug issues, but I like the idea in general.

Only 1v1 arenas would be boring though. Something like 4v4, 8v8 and maybe even 12v12 would be cool. But they should definitely add the possibility to fight your friends and also let you pick, which group you fight. That would open up opportunities for solo and group tournaments. I could even see PvE groups battling each other

Tandor · March 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Most people bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles. .

Please confirm that is just your unsubstantiated opinion, or provide the evidence to support it if you are claiming it as fact.

lol

We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.

I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.

EsoRecon · March 2016

DschiPeunt wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Arenas and Battlegrounds would bring life back into the PVP community. And I know you PVE players don't care about us but we would like some content too. (Waiting for someone to say ughhh you got imperial city) LMFAO XD
I have played a mmo with arenas and battlegrounds and it was very competitive. For the people that don't care about arenas or battlegrounds fine. You don't have to compete in them, but it would bring more people back to the game and add another endgame activity.

That is not true. I play mainly PvE, but I like jumping into PvP from time to time. I probably would be PvPing even more, if it was not that laggy and there would be less zerging.

As I have said before: I don't think, ESO is ready for arenas with the performance and bug issues, but I like the idea in general.

Only 1v1 arenas would be boring though. Something like 4v4, 8v8 and maybe even 12v12 would be cool. But they should definitely add the possibility to fight your friends and also let you pick, which group you fight. That would open up opportunities for solo and group tournaments. I could even see PvE groups battling each other

What I said is true and I think ESO is more ready than ever for arenas/BGs because it needs something big and new added to the game.

FENGRUSH · March 2016

Tandor wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Most people bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles. .

Please confirm that is just your unsubstantiated opinion, or provide the evidence to support it if you are claiming it as fact.

lol

We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.

I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.

I didnt claim anything as fact. And yet you ask me to back up a general statement to ensure it is a fact.

The game advertised Cyrodiil for large scale PVP and siege warfare. It wasnt built on arenas or dueling or battlegrounds. There wasnt much clamoring for these features when the game was releasing as well. People were happy to pursue the large scale PVP war that was shown in the cinematic videos. That is where the opinion comes from. There is more evidence to support this than there is against it.

So what numbers did I exaggerate? I dont even think youre talking about the same thing I am. I am talking about Cyrodiil vs battlegrounds.... you know, the topic of the thread? If you are talking about PVE vs PVP content, that is much more broad and not what my post had anything to do with. If youd like to take the counter position that players with an interest in PVP bought ESO for battlegrounds content go ahead - please provide evidence or simply argument to the point. If youre talking about PVE content, youve read things out of context.