So they announce PVP arenas and battlegrounds are coming and noone talks about it?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Isnt this what people have been waiting for? I dont see a single thread about the announcement. Arenas and battlegrounds are being worked on and are coming. Discuss.

GreenSoup2HoT

I'd rather a lag free cryodill. Unlike most people, i like siege warfare and everything that come's with it (Guerrilla warfare, etc). I did not buy this game to "duel". I bought it for the huge open world pvp experience i saw in the trailer. Nothing against duelers, it's just kind of boring and limited to meta builds/setups. I'd rather fight open world 1v1's with terrain i can work with.


EDIT

I had to comment on all the agree's. Holy moly. Glad so many people agree with me. MFW i now have the potential power to edit my comment with 90 agree's and crush whatever ability i hate in the game . Just kidding but wow it keeps climbing.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Maybe once arenas come wont be so many people out there and the lag will get better.

KingYogi415

We needs duels stat.

MoeCoastie

I duels. Not so excited about arenas.

WalkingLegacy

They've been saying this for a while. What's your point?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

They've been saying this for a while. What's your point?

They have never verified before today that battlegrounds and arenas are in active development. Its only been rumor from the player base. If you mean before IC came out when the mentioned smaller battles they were talking about IC.

Sharee

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

They've been saying this for a while. What's your point?

They have never verified before today that battlegrounds and arenas are in active development. Its only been rumor from the player base. If you mean before IC came out when the mentioned smaller battles they were talking about IC.

I think you just missed it. I am fairly sure battlegrounds were already officially announced by ZOS as something that's eventually coming, before today.

As for the battlegrounds, they can be fun, but only if ZOS either disallows pre-made groups from entering them(allowing only solo queueing), or else only allows pre-made groups to face other pre-made groups. Anything else results in some very frustratingly one-sided matches (played SWTOR for a couple years, plenty of experience with that)

WalkingLegacy

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

They've been saying this for a while. What's your point?

They have never verified before today that battlegrounds and arenas are in active development. Its only been rumor from the player base. If you mean before IC came out when the mentioned smaller battles they were talking about IC.

Yes they have. Go back a few episodes.

Pepsi2853_ESO

i wouldn't mind seeing arena 3 way faction arena battles. some with NPCs on your team too. like how in oblivion after you beat the arena campaign you got to do creatures VS the grand champion.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

They've been saying this for a while. What's your point?

They have never verified before today that battlegrounds and arenas are in active development. Its only been rumor from the player base. If you mean before IC came out when the mentioned smaller battles they were talking about IC.

Yes they have. Go back a few episodes.

Ive watched every one of them. They never once said arenas nor battlegrounds were in development. Honestly I cant even find one they mention arenas or battlegrounds by name at all.

BlackEar

Does anyone have a summary of what they talked about? I have no idea what happened.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

I dont remember everything. They said housing was coming. The pvp stuff of course. They plan on sticking to the one per quarter release of DLCs. They think radiant destruction is in a good place and dont see any need to change it. They are working on pvp performance but probably wont see any real improvements until DB. I dont remember anything else.

Volkodav

Not really interested in PvP.
But,woohah for those that do.

Sugaroverdose

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Isnt this what people have been waiting for? I dont see a single thread about the announcement. Arenas and battlegrounds are being worked on and are coming. Discuss.

Did they announce that CP will be reworked? Changes in TG made them a complete joke: everyone have 20+ % damage reduction and 26% damage increase, armor now is not more than costume for sets, sustain is not more than +10 secs of living.

Without fixing CP system to allow people to make unique builds, battleground will have "who shoots first - win" mechanics as well as cyrodiil now.

PS: This situation reminds me almost a year of complete imbalance in Destiny, when pvp was overruned by people with "Thorn" which guarantees you that two shots will kill your target, in result - huge amount of people just dropped the game instead of waiting for "september patch" announced in may or something like that

"We know that balance is piece of cr*ap, but hey, we have cool dlc incoming, wait for additional 3-5 month and we'll try fix it"©Bungie

"Working as intended, and yes, Wrobel wasn't fired for that"©ZOS

Don't really know what's better.

cravnbeer

I hate arenas in a mmorpg ( imo it ruined wow as balance became a major issue). Battlegrounds I could care less about. If I wanted arena style action or battleground action there are plenty of games that were built from the ground up with those play types in mind. Dueling is just whatever...as long as they do not balance according to it.
I love siege warfare, I love open world PvP and risk/reward of IC... I wish they would focus and make these parts of the game really shine.

Jade1986

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Isnt this what people have been waiting for? I dont see a single thread about the announcement. Arenas and battlegrounds are being worked on and are coming. Discuss.

Pretty sure hardly anyone wants arenas, that is a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny percentage of people that are stuck in the 4 v 4 mentality from 1995. Battlegrounds would be fine, but arenas ruined pvp in several games ALREADY, putting them in here would be a dire mistake. Especially when the whole pvp selling point in this game was large scale battles and a fluid battleground.

Jhunn

laced wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Isnt this what people have been waiting for? I dont see a single thread about the announcement. Arenas and battlegrounds are being worked on and are coming. Discuss.

Pretty sure hardly anyone wants arenas, that is a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny percentage of people that are stuck in the 4 v 4 mentality from 1995. Battlegrounds would be fine, but arenas ruined pvp in several games ALREADY, putting them in here would be a dire mistake. Especially when the whole pvp selling point in this game was large scale battles and a fluid battleground.

Great selling point. Stop using it as an argument when the game obviously can't handle it.

ozmorgudduth

Nobody is discussing this because everybody interested knows how it will look like.

It will look like this: "Sorry the fix to stamina could not make it this patch, also the fix for Carpenters Revenge bug will come out with next DLC - Mysterious Merchants Guild in 3rd quarter of the year, pre-order now, also buy new golden pants at 50% - offer valid only until 16:66 today..."

Jade1986

Jhunn wrote: »

laced wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Isnt this what people have been waiting for? I dont see a single thread about the announcement. Arenas and battlegrounds are being worked on and are coming. Discuss.

Pretty sure hardly anyone wants arenas, that is a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny percentage of people that are stuck in the 4 v 4 mentality from 1995. Battlegrounds would be fine, but arenas ruined pvp in several games ALREADY, putting them in here would be a dire mistake. Especially when the whole pvp selling point in this game was large scale battles and a fluid battleground.

Great selling point. Stop using it as an argument when the game obviously can't handle it.

The game handled it actually quite well before they changed it from client side to server side. ( Or was it the other way around? Who knows ). Still, we do not under any circumstances need arenas in this game, it ruined pvp in swtor, it ruined pvp in wow and it ruined pvp in many other mmos as well. Arenas are literally a cancer on mmo pvp.

Paulington

Brian Wheeler stated that Arena/BGs were in active development last time he was on ESO Live which was quite a while ago, we've known this for a long while.

TequilaFire

Meh, I have nothing to prove so doesn't excite me too much.
I prefer team work.

Jade1986

Paulington wrote: »

Brian Wheeler stated that Arena/BGs were in active development last time he was on ESO Live which was quite a while ago, we've known this for a long while.

Same as horse racing?

Honestly if arenas come to this game, I will, and I am sure most others will as well, stay further away from them than I would from a zombie that was vomiting liquid cancer and sweating aids in vapor form. Expect super long queue times and expect people to complain about said super long queue times, just like every other game that added that god awful game mode.

Niaver

I like Cyrodiil, but it's laggy as hell.
I hope Battlegrounds will be event-based or how do they call it. So you will need to defend, to attack, to capture etc. This way variety of builds can be effective, not only 1 or 2. And i hope it will be like... 8 vs 8 or something? Medium scale, not only 1v1, 2v2, 3v3.
Basically we need MOBA inside ESO, probably without creeps.
P.S. Oh, yes. Not only 8v8, but 8v8v8 would be super cool.

cravnbeer

" Still, we do not under any circumstances need arenas in this game, it ruined pvp in swtor, it ruined pvp in wow and it ruined pvp in many other mmos as well. Arenas are literally a cancer on mmo pvp."

so glad I am not the only one that see this.

PURPLE245

eso need all sorts of pvp 1v1 2v2 3v3 4v4 5v5 6v6 +++ adding just one games mode will just burn everyone out like cyro has people need a change variety not just oh lets but in a BG and leave it at that for 2 more years the more thinks to do the more players will play because there will be thing for everyone to do... i hate large scale pvp but i would support more large scale for the people who like large scale just like the people who dont like small scale should still support small scale pvp just like i support pve coming the the game yeah i dont like pve but other people do the more things there are for people to do the more people that will play because they are not forced to do something they dont want to do thats what i dont get about alot of people they will say oh nono dont add this i dont like it ect well if you want a larger player base you got to accept it if you dont like something dont play it play what you like to do i dont like pve so i dont do it just because they add something does not mean you have to play it i think we just need more style of pvp to bring more players in peopel who like small scale will play small scale people who like cyro will stay in cyro people who like BGs will play BGs why not gett it all then we are not stuck doing one thing

PURPLE245

cravnbeer wrote: »

" Still, we do not under any circumstances need arenas in this game, it ruined pvp in swtor, it ruined pvp in wow and it ruined pvp in many other mmos as well. Arenas are literally a cancer on mmo pvp."

so glad I am not the only one that see this.

how did it kill them? not like people have to play them

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Paulington wrote: »

Brian Wheeler stated that Arena/BGs were in active development last time he was on ESO Live which was quite a while ago, we've known this for a long while.

Id love for anyone to show me this. Ive watched all the ESO lives and never once did they mention pvp arenas or battlegrounds by name #1 and never said they were in active production #2.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

laced wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

Brian Wheeler stated that Arena/BGs were in active development last time he was on ESO Live which was quite a while ago, we've known this for a long while.

Same as horse racing?

Honestly if arenas come to this game, I will, and I am sure most others will as well, stay further away from them than I would from a zombie that was vomiting liquid cancer and sweating aids in vapor form. Expect super long queue times and expect people to complain about said super long queue times, just like every other game that added that god awful game mode.

Not if but when. They said they are being developed now as we speak. Obviously its going to take some time but its is happening.

jcasini222ub17_ESO

Think about the names on the forums you used to see calling for bgs and arenas and then think about the last time you saw a majority of those names active on the forums.

Jade1986

PURPLE245 wrote: »

cravnbeer wrote: »

" Still, we do not under any circumstances need arenas in this game, it ruined pvp in swtor, it ruined pvp in wow and it ruined pvp in many other mmos as well. Arenas are literally a cancer on mmo pvp."

so glad I am not the only one that see this.

how did it kill them? not like people have to play them

Because they divided the player base and then they desperately tried to balance around arenas ruining battlegrounds and open world completely. Then they completely stopped focusing on battlegrounds and open world and people flat out stopped playing pvp because of that, reducing the number of players actually pvping to a whopping 100 give or take a dozen. We do not need that here.