TotterTates wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

It has synergy with tavas favor too

Misses do not count as dodging

thank you

Personofsecrets wrote: »

The new physical resist passive in the CP line and the absolute vitiating of armor rating by the new trial armor debuff mechanic have gone a long way to making the armor rating stat small potatoes.

Very interesting. How does the new physical damage reduction constellation affect how easily you can reach the mitigation cap? Are new maths in order for us tanks?

Regardless of how effective this ends up being, I'm just thrilled to see someone thinking outside the box and using a non-cookie-cutter build for serious endgame content. I feel like that is so rare in this game. Mad props, OP. I like your style.

2 Engine guardian
5 master armor
5 footman
Best setup!
Running this with a Stam Tank nightblade
With war Horn and Buffs:
34k Health
32k stamina
16k magicka
Resistance are over the cap, so its perfect

Baconfat79 wrote: »

Regardless of how effective this ends up being, I'm just thrilled to see someone thinking outside the box and using a non-cookie-cutter build for serious endgame content. I feel like that is so rare in this game. Mad props, OP. I like your style.

Now if only Engine Guardian had a replacement, but it is just too good.

So if I remember right LT you are a DK, so if the you get the No armor debuff your mitigation would still be:

Blocking 0.5 Sword and board passive 0.8 DK passive 0.9 assuming absorb magic or other morph 0.92 minor maim 0.85 and lets say 30p into hardy that's 0.892 for a total of 0.5*0.8*0.9*0.92*0.85*0.892=0.25111584=~75%mitigation when you got no armor.

Also there is no mitigation cap. Not in the same way as there is a resistance cap. There are only a certain number of possible combinations for mitigation stacking and the one with the highest number is the qoute unqoute cap that people are talking about but in theory the cap is nonexistent cause you are continuously reducing the number by a fraction of what is left, never a fixed number, which means you will never hit 100%.

TotterTates wrote: »

agro2014 wrote: »

I can confirm that Akatosh Blessing works on bosses, also this set can be stacked with Armor Master, with Armor Master buff and Rune Focus i have 34k Phys/Spell Resist on my Templar tank.

Nice, bosses used to never miss. That's good news.

Yeah, I bosses were resistant to miss chance debuffs. When did that change?

@Kippesnikke

TankHealz2015 wrote: »

Hey,

I would love to see what you could build using (my favorite) Thunderous Plate heavy armor.

Something about that set that I just love the way the electrical charges come out... but I have not been able to use it effectively in a dungeon group. :-(

Any ideas?

v16-DK-Orc-Tank-s/sh-s/sh

You could roll with thunderous plate and jolting arms.

Personofsecrets wrote: »

This is one of the baddest tanking build I've made and I am here to share it with you. Discuss your thoughts.



@MaximusDargus @usmcjdking @Wing , you know who you are.

@Personofsecrets if it works for you thats good! but its not really the build i would use:P

trials u use tripods. igneous weapons to buff ur mates. this both regens stamina.
the engine guardian u dont need. i would defitnitly replace that. if u use it for stamina regen. u have a 10% proc chance and on top of that a 33% for each resource. i know this is deltia's favorite but a tank should control his resources and should not rely on engines guardian.
for akatosh blessing. not sure if it works on bosses aswell. u miss armor on that and stats are lower because lower level. making it legendary makes it a bit better but still miss alot.
and in my opinion worm set is for healer to wear. not the tank.

everything i said is my opinion and not a personal attack. i like it you made a forum post for trials tanks:D

have fun!

Kippesnikke wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

This is one of the baddest tanking build I've made and I am here to share it with you. Discuss your thoughts.



@MaximusDargus @usmcjdking @Wing , you know who you are.

@Personofsecrets if it works for you thats good! but its not really the build i would use:P

trials u use tripods. igneous weapons to buff ur mates. this both regens stamina.
the engine guardian u dont need. i would defitnitly replace that. if u use it for stamina regen. u have a 10% proc chance and on top of that a 33% for each resource. i know this is deltia's favorite but a tank should control his resources and should not rely on engines guardian.
for akatosh blessing. not sure if it works on bosses aswell. u miss armor on that and stats are lower because lower level. making it legendary makes it a bit better but still miss alot.
and in my opinion worm set is for healer to wear. not the tank.

everything i said is my opinion and not a personal attack. i like it you made a forum post for trials tanks:D

have fun!

I agree wormcult should be worn by the healer.

However, Engine Guardian is an amazing set for tanking, Deltia didn't "invent" the trend of using Engine Guardian, this set has been used by some of the most strongest tanks in ESO since it has been around. The way Stamina is now, it's pretty much just a matter of time before you get lower than you should, yes you have tripots and shards etc etc, but still, you're going to get low and you're going to have to self sustain - that is what I find pretty engaging and using Engine Guardian sort of cheats this, but it's still an incredible set.

Here is a perfect example, I was tanking this and self sustained myself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trNzbwuc5yU this is pretty much what you do, it's insanely difficult when you strip away lots of the extra assets.

So I don't believe you should be throwing around this statement a tank should control his resources and should not rely on engines guardian.

Kippesnikke wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Kippesnikke wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

This is one of the baddest tanking build I've made and I am here to share it with you. Discuss your thoughts.



@MaximusDargus @usmcjdking @Wing , you know who you are.

@Personofsecrets if it works for you thats good! but its not really the build i would use:P

trials u use tripods. igneous weapons to buff ur mates. this both regens stamina.
the engine guardian u dont need. i would defitnitly replace that. if u use it for stamina regen. u have a 10% proc chance and on top of that a 33% for each resource. i know this is deltia's favorite but a tank should control his resources and should not rely on engines guardian.
for akatosh blessing. not sure if it works on bosses aswell. u miss armor on that and stats are lower because lower level. making it legendary makes it a bit better but still miss alot.
and in my opinion worm set is for healer to wear. not the tank.

everything i said is my opinion and not a personal attack. i like it you made a forum post for trials tanks:D

have fun!

I agree wormcult should be worn by the healer.

However, Engine Guardian is an amazing set for tanking, Deltia didn't "invent" the trend of using Engine Guardian, this set has been used by some of the most strongest tanks in ESO since it has been around. The way Stamina is now, it's pretty much just a matter of time before you get lower than you should, yes you have tripots and shards etc etc, but still, you're going to get low and you're going to have to self sustain - that is what I find pretty engaging and using Engine Guardian sort of cheats this, but it's still an incredible set.

Here is a perfect example, I was tanking this and self sustained myself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trNzbwuc5yU this is pretty much what you do, it's insanely difficult when you strip away lots of the extra assets.

So I don't believe you should be throwing around this statement a tank should control his resources and should not rely on engines guardian.

i believe this forums post is about trial tanking. not a white gold tower run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFgKmH9Zfrw

there u go. tanking without engine guardian in a trial.

You linked old content with full raid buffs going out to help sustain stamina (shards, siphon spirit, damage debuffs, combat prayer armor buffs, tank is probably stacking insane amount of armor for even more block cost reduction.)

There is a complete difference between self sustain and having those essentials thrown at you. I agree that is probably difficult but that tank didn't have much movement at all in that video apart from a world shaper going out. Barely even healing himself from the looks of it either.

Whats your point?

Kippesnikke wrote: »

The point is that was a full sanctum hardmode run with 5 people. Ill post the mantikora later on. So dont come with the second boss of a casual white gold tower and say how essential engines guardian is.

You're coming to me with someone in a decked out trials build where basically not much movement is needed, from the tank, it's more so needed from the other members and telling me how difficult it is. Do you know how much the bosses hit for in that trial - bloodspawn is most likely what is going to be used in trials as you have full raid buffs going on to help sustain your resources. But strip away most of it and you're left doing it by yourself, which is why Engine Guardian comes in.

I've tried a Sanctum 4man before, it's not the tanking that is hard, it's everyone else's movement and coordination that is the hard part.

There is no reason why you shouldn't use Engine Guardian anyway, because Deltia uses it? Get over yourself. There is really right now not much point stacking up loads of armor hitting the hardcap (unless in MoL, though I don't do that often so idk).

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Baconfat79 wrote: »

Regardless of how effective this ends up being, I'm just thrilled to see someone thinking outside the box and using a non-cookie-cutter build for serious endgame content. I feel like that is so rare in this game. Mad props, OP. I like your style.

Now if only Engine Guardian had a replacement, but it is just too good.

I am running EG for so long I got bored of it.
Am hoping I can get an infused HA Bloospawn helm, want to blow the Horn 24/7 with my DK.

I personally like Armour master songs of lamae combo...