Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I have a hard time not rolling my eyes every time I see a Fengrush video.

Usually when he's says something like "their netcode isn't robust" I'm just laughing at him.

It's hard to get past knowing what he does and how he's certainly not on the up and up about anything. I mean we are talking about a guy that abused the hell out of stamina with the sprint->dodge roll thing and he did it for months.

As for the AOE caps thing he constantly rants about... my god it would become all fights last 2-3 seconds nightmare.

If AOE caps weren't a thing we would have no need of proxy to be a zerg buster or of VD, small groups could actually have a chance to take a zerg out.

But thats not the case, aoe are still in place and zergs have rules pvp for so long. Hence the Proxy/Vd and i'm waiting for the tears to start. The proxy one is already starting, wait until the VD rolls in.

Yes, but also take into account the increased damage of Proxy, how easy proxy is to get, damage creep, and sets like Vicious Death, and the increase in siege dmg. I think the devs made a good call in waiting to remove aoe caps until we see how much of an impact all this has on ball zergs. Because ultimately, the other end of the spectrum is without aoe caps, we may see one or two guys proxy, ult, aoe spam onto a flag and wiping entire zergs solo and that is certainly not counter balance.

They should of removes Aoe caps the patch after it was brought in, There would certainly be less zergs now, we'd have no need to proxy to be a zerg buster so it could have remained as it was, VD wouldn't of needed to be introduced.

But they ignored people, so now they have introduced another band aid, one I'll make full use of sure but it's still a band aid to a problem they know how to fix but refuse too.

EnemyOfDaState wrote: »

Never understood how people can be so arrogant that they think anyone cares when they threaten to leave a game and think that others will follow them. If it is really that bad and there is no hope for the future then go.

Its not that he is threatening to leave its that they refuse to fix ***

I am playing since beta too and I do enjoy the game but you can't deny how it is and Feng just got to the point. We have seen so many patches being published even though people in the PTS section begged for more testing time and not pushing an unfinished DLC live. For me personally, Thieves Guild just did it. People crashing constantly since the day it was pushed live, a thread and one crash hotfix and no more comment on the issue again. A whole week and the devs just do not care. Their response to my ticket after I said I already tried all their suggested solutions steps. Power saving settings like... Really?! I am still crashing and they just have no idea how to fix it because it is on their end and not the players'. It is an amazing game with sooo much potential but that's all it has. ZOS keeps pushing their loyal players further and further away - that's a fact and Feng, well he's right. And after everything we dealt with a rant seems more than acceptable. :P

glad the dude made a vid and said what we all are thinking,after hitting CP cap and making 8 chars i too have hit a wall and as stated in another thread the state of the game with all the bugs that get reported and never get fixed can/is turning away people from playing and buying future DLC,,a lot of peeps i have spoken too say they are waiting for a new game to come out and mainly log in for the social side and to sell stuff, other than that they are not to bothered in doing anything else cos they been there done that 500+ times ish lol

JD2013 wrote: »

is sharing this the new dead horse to beat?

I'd say so, but I'd also say that maybe this is a dead horse worth beating until ZOS take at least a little notice of it.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can we please stop starting threads or linking in every thread the same video?

Look, I get it, I have some salt too , but do we really need to throw your salt in everyone else's face?

IMO, that is part of the problem with this community.

JD2013 wrote: »

And as I've said, he does make some good points. But they're buried in childish and egocentric ranting.

This, pretty much.

There will never be enough threads for this video. Just because it's so damn right and ZOS don't care.

I never knew there was a direct connection between getting rid of botting in ESO and the lag in Cyro. LMAO!!!

Wheres Jenna Marbles, maybe she could dress up some sexy dress and talk about the Thief DLC and I might get interested.

If hes complaining about PVP, its really so hard to understand this isnt going to be balanced PVP game and never will, just you guys know, lots of companies tried it and they all failed, content what keeps players playing, specifically innovative content, the genre isnt young anymore.

JD2013 wrote: »

Mady wrote: »

There will never be enough threads for this video. Just because it's so damn right and ZOS don't care.

Doesn't care?

Vet Ranks implemented at start - because people shouted about not seeing everything on one character.

First person implemented at the beginning because it wasn't and this outraged many.

Champion System - because people hated Veteran Ranks.

Veteran Ranks - disappearing with Dark Brotherhood.

Provisioning completely overhauled.

More items to pick up and things to interact with in the world.

Pages upon pages of class changes from all the "Nerf this NOW!" topics.

You can now go where you want instead of linear silver and gold quests.

Tel Var Stone loss taken to 80% from 100%

Forward Camps brought back.

Siege weapons changed a few times.

Arenas? Coming.

Capture Districts in IC? Coming. (Though should have been in IC from the start)

Housing? Coming.

Barbershop? Coming.

More objectives in Cyrodiil? Being looked into.

Scrolling combat text? In.

Native controller support? In.

Monster helm merchant in Cyrodiil as opposed to running pledges endlessly.

This game definitely has its problems, devs not listening is not one of them.

More QA testing, levelling old trials would be good. But I can see why they haven't levelled them to VR16 if VR16 is disappearing in 3 months or so. More end game content? Yes please. Cyrodiil lag? Ongoing problem that can be partly attributed to Zerg balls, and poor server performance equally. More visible stamina builds? Yes please.

But they're certainly listening.

That's not why they're not leveling Trials. Everything's going to scale off of champion points. It will be the exact same thing, but one name goes away an all the progress will be shared accross characters.

JD2013 wrote: »

Mady wrote: »

There will never be enough threads for this video. Just because it's so damn right and ZOS don't care.

Doesn't care?

Vet Ranks implemented at start - because people shouted about not seeing everything on one character.

First person implemented at the beginning because it wasn't and this outraged many.

Champion System - because people hated Veteran Ranks.

Veteran Ranks - disappearing with Dark Brotherhood.

Provisioning completely overhauled.

More items to pick up and things to interact with in the world.

Pages upon pages of class changes from all the "Nerf this NOW!" topics.

You can now go where you want instead of linear silver and gold quests.

Tel Var Stone loss taken to 80% from 100%

Forward Camps brought back.

Siege weapons changed a few times.

Arenas? Coming.

Capture Districts in IC? Coming. (Though should have been in IC from the start)

Housing? Coming.

Barbershop? Coming.

More objectives in Cyrodiil? Being looked into.

Scrolling combat text? In.

Native controller support? In.

Monster helm merchant in Cyrodiil as opposed to running pledges endlessly.

This game definitely has its problems, devs not listening is not one of them.

More QA testing, levelling old trials would be good. But I can see why they haven't levelled them to VR16 if VR16 is disappearing in 3 months or so. More end game content? Yes please. Cyrodiil lag? Ongoing problem that can be partly attributed to Zerg balls, and poor server performance equally. More visible stamina builds? Yes please.

But they're certainly listening.

WTF? Now think about how long it took! Half of what you're saying isn't even there or implemented well. This game is two years old....

JD2013 wrote: »

Tdroid wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

is sharing this the new dead horse to beat?

I'd say so, but I'd also say that maybe this is a dead horse worth beating until ZOS take at least a little notice of it.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Pro tip: summoning staff rarely works or gets a response

And as I've said, he does make some good points. But they're buried in childish and egocentric ranting.

I'm pretty sure ZOS know how badly the TG patch borked a number of things. I'm pretty sure (going by how many times its brought up on ESO Live and in forums) that they know Cyrodiil has problems. Nobody's opinion is worth more than anyone else's.

To be fair to Feng Rush, I get the frustration, and he does have some good points. But, like you said, a lot of it gets pureed into the egotism.

I get the thing where he says ZOS doesn't want to engage with people who criticize them. I mean, I really do. But, at the same time, I get where ZOS is at. When you're putting anything out there for mass consumption (and I'm not even talking about video games with millions of players, I see this in my day job, with around 20k people looking at what I do), you're going to get people crawling out of the woodwork with nothing valuable to say, just spouting off, "you suck!" at the top of their lungs.

Which, is what I see from Feng here, first and foremost. Exactly the kind of, "this is your fault, this sucks," approach that will ensure ZOS (or anyone really) will ignore what you have to say.

He makes a good point, yes, all the trials should scale to V16 (and really, all the endgame content should). But, then he immediately turns around and starts blaming people over it, and claiming ZOS doesn't know what they're doing. So... at that point, if you've spent the last four years of your life doing this, then why would you listen to him further? As someone who has spent four years learning and developing this game, and building it, literally, from scratch, why would you want to listen to someone who makes videos online for less than a year, when they're saying you're incompetent?

When it's small scale, one or two guys? Then you can manage them if you want. But, it's not constructive, because it breeds the sentiments. And when you are talking about, literally, millions of people, you're talking about thousands of people, each with their own, conflicting ideas, of what this game needs, and the only thing they have in common is their conviction that "you suck." So... why would you want to engage with these guys?

He's right about some things: stamina builds did just take a hit (not a fatal one, but, still), the game needs more endgame PvE repeatable content. It also needs some of that in the base game, outside of DLC zones. But, the way he's saying it is why ZOS isn't going to listen to him seriously.

JD2013 wrote: »

More QA testing, levelling old trials would be good. But I can see why they haven't levelled them to VR16 if VR16 is disappearing in 3 months or so.

Yeah, I kinda suspect this is exactly why the old trials aren't getting the VR16 treatment right now. The real question is, once VRs are gone, will we see the trial drops scaling to CR160 (or higher), or will they keep their current CR equivalent tiers of gear?

To be fair, we also don't know how far up the food chain gear will go after CR160, so... *shrugs*

But, yeah, it's been kind of frustrating because development has been so slow, but, at the same time, this has been one of the more responsive MMO developers for player feedback.