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Let´s make streak a vaible dmg spell again...
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✭Streak is the offensive morph of bolt escape, the cost increase shouldn't happen if you're actually staying there and fighting. Only way to determine that is if you're damaging someone. And if you're damaging someone, you are in their gap closer range as well.2 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »yes, a dk in naturally tankier then a sorc, but a sorc shields make them much tankier then a dk. as far as a nb more likely to get away, that is based on the circumstances. sometimes it is easier for a nb. but what if a nb is marked, mage light, flared, or aoe? then a sorc is more likely to get away. you can say once anyone is in gap closer range it is game over. that is not just true for sorcs. Besides a good sorc will be able to tactically retreat. maybe your drop mines and then streak. perhaos you streak one way and then back the other to cc them and then streak again oto get away. perhaps you streak and los. just as a nb must do the same thing when they are countered. cc them then cloak. dodge one way and back the other. los them. yes, some of it is l2p. Some is just objective facts about the classes.
Do you even read?
I´ve stated a sorc in a grp setting is not tankier than a DK (i don´t give two snips about 1v1 but i don´t think you can kill either a good sorc nor a stam DK).
NB currently has only mark as a counter - however it´s unlikely to get marked in a grp fight (most of the time people stop paying attention). That will change and it´s to be determined how it will affect the class. God forbid they have to slot the actual best teleport in the game.
All it needs is one decent player with a gapcloser and you won´t get away on a sorc. I catch sorcs (even good ones) on my magica NB without a gapcloser - that pretty much tells it all.<Noricum>
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bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭bowmanz607 wrote: »yes, a dk in naturally tankier then a sorc, but a sorc shields make them much tankier then a dk. as far as a nb more likely to get away, that is based on the circumstances. sometimes it is easier for a nb. but what if a nb is marked, mage light, flared, or aoe? then a sorc is more likely to get away. you can say once anyone is in gap closer range it is game over. that is not just true for sorcs. Besides a good sorc will be able to tactically retreat. maybe your drop mines and then streak. perhaos you streak one way and then back the other to cc them and then streak again oto get away. perhaps you streak and los. just as a nb must do the same thing when they are countered. cc them then cloak. dodge one way and back the other. los them. yes, some of it is l2p. Some is just objective facts about the classes.
Do you even read?
I´ve stated a sorc in a grp setting is not tankier than a DK (i don´t give two snips about 1v1 but i don´t think you can kill either a good sorc nor a stam DK).
NB currently has only mark as a counter - however it´s unlikely to get marked in a grp fight (most of the time people stop paying attention). That will change and it´s to be determined how it will affect the class. God forbid they have to slot the actual best teleport in the game.
All it needs is one decent player with a gapcloser and you won´t get away on a sorc. I catch sorcs (even good ones) on my magica NB without a gapcloser - that pretty much tells it all.
in a group, a sorc is still tanky as crap. they have less focus fire on them. they also are likely getting hit with aoe which will tickle their shield. also, unlike a dk, they can manuver much better. My above comments still apply to group play and should be even easier to pull off especially if you fall back behind your line. again, a feat that is easier for a sorc than a dk while still remaining tanky.
really? a nb ONLY counter is mark? really? i dont even think i can take you seriously. every single aoe is a counter. heck, even when i play nb i dont even slot mark. it is easier to use aoe and it can be used on all classes. Not to mention, magelight and flare. I know i know. we have been down this road before together. you think magelight is crap while others disagree with that comment, so lets not go down that road because maglight is 10x better in next patch. Since this is about increasing damage of an ability thread, that means it should take into account the future changes since the change purposed will be, at best, the same time as the magelight change.
as far as the statement you can catch a sorc on your magblade w/o a gap closer...well then i am sorry, that sorc sucks. no gap closer or speed or enough stamina to catch a sorc that streaks a few times. those sorcs suck. bottomline. Again, even one person spamming a gap closer can be out done by a streaking sorc. it is all about outsmarting the other player. a sorc deals with a person spamming gap closers to not let them escape. a nb deals with aoe, detect pots, gap closers, magelight, and mark to not get away. It simply comes down to countering the counters and outplaying your opponent to properly escape.0 -
americansteel✭✭✭✭americansteel wrote: »Why not increase streaks dmg by 50% for every 50% cost increase that´s active.
For ball of lightning they could increase the absorb duration.
It´s the only skill prohibitive in terms of gaining it´s secondary effects - if you can´t use it at will the effects should atleast scale with the cost increase imho.
NOPE! most OP class in cyrodiil for scrubs wanting easy mode and you want more buffing?
You´re mistaking streak for a NB skill. Move along.
no im not! move along little oneNO LONGER PLAYING ESO
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✭✭✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »as far as the statement you can catch a sorc on your magblade w/o a gap closer...well then i am sorry, that sorc sucks. no gap closer or speed or enough stamina to catch a sorc that streaks a few times. those sorcs suck. bottomline. Again, even one person spamming a gap closer can be out done by a streaking sorc. it is all about outsmarting the other player. a sorc deals with a person spamming gap closers to not let them escape. a nb deals with aoe, detect pots, gap closers, magelight, and mark to not get away. It simply comes down to countering the counters and outplaying your opponent to properly escape.
Anyone not able to catch a sorc on anything but mag templar or DK is doing it wrong. Every stam class can keep up. Mag NB can keep up and sorc obviously can too.
If you can´t imagine a mag NB catching a sorc without a gapcloser and your only explanation is l2p for the sorc - you´re too limited in your imagination (it´s not like they can even see you).
It´s not the sorc doing it wrong or bad. Everyone who can´t catch them is.
I know because i´ve played and play both sides. I see people failing to catch me all the time. But only because they´re doing it wrong.
Apart from this none of this conversation has any relevance. This topic is only to discuss one skill. It´s like saying dragonblood should stay as is because DKs do fine with it´s current form...Edited by Derra on March 2, 2016 10:41PM<Noricum>
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✭✭✭✭✭americansteel wrote: »americansteel wrote: »Why not increase streaks dmg by 50% for every 50% cost increase that´s active.
For ball of lightning they could increase the absorb duration.
It´s the only skill prohibitive in terms of gaining it´s secondary effects - if you can´t use it at will the effects should atleast scale with the cost increase imho.
NOPE! most OP class in cyrodiil for scrubs wanting easy mode and you want more buffing?
You´re mistaking streak for a NB skill. Move along.
no im not! move along little one
Well then please amuse us with your elaborate assessment why you think the "most OP class for scrubs" is a fitting comment in this topic.
Also some things like steel should stay british.<Noricum>
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bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭bowmanz607 wrote: »as far as the statement you can catch a sorc on your magblade w/o a gap closer...well then i am sorry, that sorc sucks. no gap closer or speed or enough stamina to catch a sorc that streaks a few times. those sorcs suck. bottomline. Again, even one person spamming a gap closer can be out done by a streaking sorc. it is all about outsmarting the other player. a sorc deals with a person spamming gap closers to not let them escape. a nb deals with aoe, detect pots, gap closers, magelight, and mark to not get away. It simply comes down to countering the counters and outplaying your opponent to properly escape.
Anyone not able to catch a sorc on anything but mag templar or DK is doing it wrong. Every stam class can keep up. Mag NB can keep up and sorc obviously can too.
If you can´t imagine a mag NB catching a sorc without a gapcloser and your only explanation is l2p for the sorc - you´re too limited in your imagination (it´s not like they can even see you).
It´s not the sorc doing it wrong or bad. Everyone who can´t catch them is.
I know because i´ve played and play both sides. I see people failing to catch me all the time. But only because they´re doing it wrong.
Apart from this none of this conversation has any relevance. This topic is only to discuss one skill. It´s like saying dragonblood should stay as is because DKs do fine with it´s current form...
ok so your counter to my counter is l2p. Sounds like the issue might be with individual players across the board and not the skills themselves then. right?
also, this conversation got of tract well before our discussion lol.0 -
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✭✭RoamingRiverElk wrote: »Ball of Lightning should be buffed. Currently NO ONE uses that morph in PvP. Something's wrong with that morph then since no one sees it as the better option of the two.
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✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »RoamingRiverElk wrote: »Ball of Lightning should be buffed. Currently NO ONE uses that morph in PvP. Something's wrong with that morph then since no one sees it as the better option of the two.
Fragmented Shield anyone?
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »as far as the statement you can catch a sorc on your magblade w/o a gap closer...well then i am sorry, that sorc sucks. no gap closer or speed or enough stamina to catch a sorc that streaks a few times. those sorcs suck. bottomline. Again, even one person spamming a gap closer can be out done by a streaking sorc. it is all about outsmarting the other player. a sorc deals with a person spamming gap closers to not let them escape. a nb deals with aoe, detect pots, gap closers, magelight, and mark to not get away. It simply comes down to countering the counters and outplaying your opponent to properly escape.
Anyone not able to catch a sorc on anything but mag templar or DK is doing it wrong. Every stam class can keep up. Mag NB can keep up and sorc obviously can too.
If you can´t imagine a mag NB catching a sorc without a gapcloser and your only explanation is l2p for the sorc - you´re too limited in your imagination (it´s not like they can even see you).
It´s not the sorc doing it wrong or bad. Everyone who can´t catch them is.
I know because i´ve played and play both sides. I see people failing to catch me all the time. But only because they´re doing it wrong.
Apart from this none of this conversation has any relevance. This topic is only to discuss one skill. It´s like saying dragonblood should stay as is because DKs do fine with it´s current form...
ok so your counter to my counter is l2p. Sounds like the issue might be with individual players across the board and not the skills themselves then. right?
also, this conversation got of tract well before our discussion lol.
Only an example why l2p is not a valid argument - because it´s universally applicable and counters itself.<Noricum>
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killingspreeb16_ESO✭✭✭✭americansteel wrote: »americansteel wrote: »Why not increase streaks dmg by 50% for every 50% cost increase that´s active.
For ball of lightning they could increase the absorb duration.
It´s the only skill prohibitive in terms of gaining it´s secondary effects - if you can´t use it at will the effects should atleast scale with the cost increase imho.
NOPE! most OP class in cyrodiil for scrubs wanting easy mode and you want more buffing?
You´re mistaking streak for a NB skill. Move along.
no im not! move along little one
Well then please amuse us with your elaborate assessment why you think the "most OP class for scrubs" is a fitting comment in this topic.
Also some things like steel should stay british.
what did you expect people say?"Sure let's buff sorc they need it!!!!"You asking to buff the alredy powerfull class (and they are since 1.6) and if someone disagree you and other sorc will just say"WAAA WAAA this is not a NB thread" or finding excuse like "if some sorc escape with bolt it's because their opponent are noob" or some crap like that
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »americansteel wrote: »americansteel wrote: »Why not increase streaks dmg by 50% for every 50% cost increase that´s active.
For ball of lightning they could increase the absorb duration.
It´s the only skill prohibitive in terms of gaining it´s secondary effects - if you can´t use it at will the effects should atleast scale with the cost increase imho.
NOPE! most OP class in cyrodiil for scrubs wanting easy mode and you want more buffing?
You´re mistaking streak for a NB skill. Move along.
no im not! move along little one
Well then please amuse us with your elaborate assessment why you think the "most OP class for scrubs" is a fitting comment in this topic.
Also some things like steel should stay british.
what did you expect people say?"Sure let's buff sorc they need it!!!!"You asking to buff the alredy powerfull class (and they are since 1.6) and if someone disagree you and other sorc will just say"WAAA WAAA this is not a NB thread" or finding excuse like "if someone sorc escape with bolt it's because their opponent are noob" or some crap like that
This topic is not about the sorc class in general. It´s about a single spell which is unique in it´s restrictions of usage. This results in side effects of said spell becoming weaker without ever being problematic in the first place.<Noricum>
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Xeven✭✭✭✭✭
✭The idea that Sorc is OP is no longer true. It was in 1.6. It's not even close to being OP anymore.
In TG, sorc shields will actually get smaller. The only reason we favored Bastion is because it was the only way to mitigate Physical Damage. Now a mix of Hardy and Elemental Defender will be far better. I'll probably be doing 60 each to unlock Unchained, then the remaining 47 into Bastion. I'll lose a big chunk of my Hardened Ward in the exchange.
The reality, due to Hardy and poor Penetration, is that were actually doing one quarter to one third of our tool tip in Cyrodiil. That's a fact.
There will be points spent in Shattering Blows. You can bet your ass there will, and the class overall is in decline.
What pisses me off is that Shattering Blows is much better than Bastion, which it was designed to "counter". That 16k leap does 20k with 100 SB, where as a 9k shield is 11.25k with 100 bastion.
If a 16k leap hits a 1k shield sliver, does that mean with 100 SB it will do 19k to our health? Then I hear Wroble talk about nerfing them more? He's drunk!
Edited by Xeven on March 3, 2016 6:36PM2 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The idea that Sorc is OP is no longer true. It was in 1.6. It's not even close to being OP anymore.
In TG, sorc shields will actually get smaller. The only reason we favored Bastion is because it was the only way to mitigate Physical Damage. Now a mix of Hardy and Elemental Defender will be far better. I'll probably be doing 60 each to unlock Unchained, then the remaining 47 into Bastion. I'll lose a big chunk of my Hardened Ward in the exchange.
The reality, due to Hardy and poor Penetration, is that were actually doing one quarter to one third of our tool tip in Cyrodiil. That's a fact.
There will be points spent in Shattering Blows. You can bet your ass there will, and the class overall is in decline.
What pisses me off is that Shattering Blows is much better than Bastion, which it was designed to "counter". That 16k leap does 20k with 100 SB, where as a 9k shield 11.25k with 100 bastion.
If a 16k leap hits a 1k shield sliver, does that mean with 100 SB it will do 19k to our health?
Well, Shattering Blows will be competing with some pretty strong blue stars. Precise Strikes, Mighty, Thaumaturge, Elemental Expert, Elfborn, Blessed are especially nice.
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Xeven✭✭✭✭✭
✭The idea that Sorc is OP is no longer true. It was in 1.6. It's not even close to being OP anymore.
In TG, sorc shields will actually get smaller. The only reason we favored Bastion is because it was the only way to mitigate Physical Damage. Now a mix of Hardy and Elemental Defender will be far better. I'll probably be doing 60 each to unlock Unchained, then the remaining 47 into Bastion. I'll lose a big chunk of my Hardened Ward in the exchange.
The reality, due to Hardy and poor Penetration, is that were actually doing one quarter to one third of our tool tip in Cyrodiil. That's a fact.
There will be points spent in Shattering Blows. You can bet your ass there will, and the class overall is in decline.
What pisses me off is that Shattering Blows is much better than Bastion, which it was designed to "counter". That 16k leap does 20k with 100 SB, where as a 9k shield 11.25k with 100 bastion.
If a 16k leap hits a 1k shield sliver, does that mean with 100 SB it will do 19k to our health?
Well, Shattering Blows will be competing with some pretty strong blue stars. Precise Strikes, Mighty, Thaumaturge, Elemental Expert, Elfborn, Blessed are especially nice.
Thank god for this, but what happens when CP cap increases? =/
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And what about those *** that swap CP just for your duel?Edited by Xeven on March 3, 2016 6:42PM0 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The idea that Sorc is OP is no longer true. It was in 1.6. It's not even close to being OP anymore.
In TG, sorc shields will actually get smaller. The only reason we favored Bastion is because it was the only way to mitigate Physical Damage. Now a mix of Hardy and Elemental Defender will be far better. I'll probably be doing 60 each to unlock Unchained, then the remaining 47 into Bastion. I'll lose a big chunk of my Hardened Ward in the exchange.
The reality, due to Hardy and poor Penetration, is that were actually doing one quarter to one third of our tool tip in Cyrodiil. That's a fact.
There will be points spent in Shattering Blows. You can bet your ass there will, and the class overall is in decline.
What pisses me off is that Shattering Blows is much better than Bastion, which it was designed to "counter". That 16k leap does 20k with 100 SB, where as a 9k shield 11.25k with 100 bastion.
If a 16k leap hits a 1k shield sliver, does that mean with 100 SB it will do 19k to our health?
Well, Shattering Blows will be competing with some pretty strong blue stars. Precise Strikes, Mighty, Thaumaturge, Elemental Expert, Elfborn, Blessed are especially nice.
Thank god for this, but what happens when CP cap increases? =/
Yea, I kinda hope it doesnt, but yea...I hear ya.
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✭Also that one that counters healing, means you have to have the debuff to begin with. SB is just like hey here is free damage to shields. The one that counters healing should apply the debuff for free as well.
Meh, I'm worried for the class. We'll see how it goes on Monday.
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bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭The idea that Sorc is OP is no longer true. It was in 1.6. It's not even close to being OP anymore.
In TG, sorc shields will actually get smaller. The only reason we favored Bastion is because it was the only way to mitigate Physical Damage. Now a mix of Hardy and Elemental Defender will be far better. I'll probably be doing 60 each to unlock Unchained, then the remaining 47 into Bastion. I'll lose a big chunk of my Hardened Ward in the exchange.
The reality, due to Hardy and poor Penetration, is that were actually doing one quarter to one third of our tool tip in Cyrodiil. That's a fact.
There will be points spent in Shattering Blows. You can bet your ass there will, and the class overall is in decline.
What pisses me off is that Shattering Blows is much better than Bastion, which it was designed to "counter". That 16k leap does 20k with 100 SB, where as a 9k shield is 11.25k with 100 bastion.
If a 16k leap hits a 1k shield sliver, does that mean with 100 SB it will do 19k to our health? Then I hear Wroble talk about nerfing them more? He's drunk!
now your just under selling. Bastion still is a one source dump for both damage types rather then splitting. Just because you split them up in next patch, does not mean others will. (see my other discussion with you on the pen stuff. no reason to rehash.)
You act like people are not dropping 10k-15k frags, 7k-10k curses etc. Your just trying to undersell the burst capabilities of a sorc here.
I dont think as many people will use shatter blows as you may think. why would they? it is much more beneficial to dump points into base damage and crit damage first along with weapon damage. not only does it do increased damage against shields, but also against all other players. I dont see this being an issue until champ points are raised. That said, i completely agree with the issues regarding shatter blows v. bastion. It seems unbalanced to me. But doesnt crit damage and crit resistance have the same issue. Lets say you have 1000 crit resist from impen and you put 20% into crit resist star. your crit resist becomes 1200. an increase of a measley 200. Whereas crit damage increase scales much higher than 200 because it has a higher base. am i wrong here? bottom line is both of those imbalances need to be addressed.
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Erraln✭✭✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »Lets say you have 1000 crit resist from impen and you put 20% into crit resist star. your crit resist becomes 1200. an increase of a measley 200. Whereas crit damage increase scales much higher than 200 because it has a higher base. am i wrong here?
Yea, actually, Resistant is anti-Elfborn/Precise Strikes not % increase of your traited resistance. If a natural unboosted crit does 150% base damage, full Resistant will reduce it to 125%. This works for any source of crit damage modifier increase, as well.0 -
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✭bowmanz607 wrote: »Lets say you have 1000 crit resist from impen and you put 20% into crit resist star. your crit resist becomes 1200. an increase of a measley 200. Whereas crit damage increase scales much higher than 200 because it has a higher base. am i wrong here?
Yea, actually, Resistant is anti-Elfborn/Precise Strikes not % increase of your traited resistance. If a natural unboosted crit does 150% base damage, full Resistant will reduce it to 125%. This works for any source of crit damage modifier increase, as well.
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✭bowmanz607 wrote: »You act like people are not dropping 10k-15k frags, 7k-10k curses etc. Your just trying to undersell the burst capabilities of a sorc here.
The tooltip on a proced top end frag is 16k. A crit is 24k. Half that with battle spirit is 12k on a completely naked scrub with no CP and no Impen.
My tooltip is 15k. It hits Fengrush, a damn stam sorc for 5k. Do the ******* math.
Wtf are you talking about 15k? Stop pulling numbers out of your ass.
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✭✭✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »The idea that Sorc is OP is no longer true. It was in 1.6. It's not even close to being OP anymore.
In TG, sorc shields will actually get smaller. The only reason we favored Bastion is because it was the only way to mitigate Physical Damage. Now a mix of Hardy and Elemental Defender will be far better. I'll probably be doing 60 each to unlock Unchained, then the remaining 47 into Bastion. I'll lose a big chunk of my Hardened Ward in the exchange.
The reality, due to Hardy and poor Penetration, is that were actually doing one quarter to one third of our tool tip in Cyrodiil. That's a fact.
There will be points spent in Shattering Blows. You can bet your ass there will, and the class overall is in decline.
What pisses me off is that Shattering Blows is much better than Bastion, which it was designed to "counter". That 16k leap does 20k with 100 SB, where as a 9k shield is 11.25k with 100 bastion.
If a 16k leap hits a 1k shield sliver, does that mean with 100 SB it will do 19k to our health? Then I hear Wroble talk about nerfing them more? He's drunk!
You act like people are not dropping 10k-15k frags, 7k-10k curses etc. Your just trying to undersell the burst capabilities of a sorc here.
Clearly im not playing the same game as you. I have 40k magicka almost 3k spelldmg and my average crystal fragment including crits would be around 8-9k, curse probably 6k or less.
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✭✭✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »The idea that Sorc is OP is no longer true. It was in 1.6. It's not even close to being OP anymore.
In TG, sorc shields will actually get smaller. The only reason we favored Bastion is because it was the only way to mitigate Physical Damage. Now a mix of Hardy and Elemental Defender will be far better. I'll probably be doing 60 each to unlock Unchained, then the remaining 47 into Bastion. I'll lose a big chunk of my Hardened Ward in the exchange.
The reality, due to Hardy and poor Penetration, is that were actually doing one quarter to one third of our tool tip in Cyrodiil. That's a fact.
There will be points spent in Shattering Blows. You can bet your ass there will, and the class overall is in decline.
What pisses me off is that Shattering Blows is much better than Bastion, which it was designed to "counter". That 16k leap does 20k with 100 SB, where as a 9k shield is 11.25k with 100 bastion.
If a 16k leap hits a 1k shield sliver, does that mean with 100 SB it will do 19k to our health? Then I hear Wroble talk about nerfing them more? He's drunk!
You act like people are not dropping 10k-15k frags, 7k-10k curses etc. Your just trying to undersell the burst capabilities of a sorc here.
Clearly im not playing the same game as you. I have 40k magicka almost 3k spelldmg and my average crystal fragment including crits would be around 8-9k, curse probably 6k or less.
Someone is not wearing impenatrable and complains about critical hits.
I´ve been hit for 12.1k suprise attack - an anytimer - DUH!
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✭✭Good magicka sorcs absolutely eat up noobs all day long and therefore mag sorc will always be complained about. Really funny how much @bowmanz607 overestimated the regular dmg of frags and curse.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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✭Good magicka sorcs absolutely eat up noobs all day long and therefore mag sorc will always be complained about. Really funny how much @bowmanz607 overestimated the regular dmg of frags and curse.
i mean i know for a fact i have been hit with 13k frags. i know i have been hit with 7k curses. whether that is with my builds wearing impen or my builds with divines i am not 100% sure.
it really doesnt concern me that the few individuals on here have not been able to get that or that you perhaps are underselling.
did i state it is every frag? no
just like there are wrecking blows that hit for 5-6k and then the next hit is a crit with empower that hits for12-14k
same concept applies to frags.1 -
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✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »You act like people are not dropping 10k-15k frags, 7k-10k curses etc. Your just trying to undersell the burst capabilities of a sorc here.
The tooltip on a proced top end frag is 16k. A crit is 24k. Half that with battle spirit is 12k on a completely naked scrub with no CP and no Impen.
My tooltip is 15k. It hits Fengrush, a damn stam sorc for 5k. Do the ******* math.
Wtf are you talking about 15k? Stop pulling numbers out of your ass.
Imagine if you had whip to work with. The tooltip is 6k....
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