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Campaign Performance

  • Niaver
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    The next incremental patch will have some changes to...

    Any changes?

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  • ZOS_BrianWheeler
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    These changes were held back for more internal testing and data changes, and will go up in the Thieves Guild patch.
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  • Sallington
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    These changes were held back for more internal testing and data changes, and will go up in the Thieves Guild patch.

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    RIP.

    Thank you for the update though, much appreciated, even if it is bad news.
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  • _Chaos
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    These changes were held back for more internal testing and data changes, and will go up in the Thieves Guild patch.

    How about the next incremental?

    We can't have all these changes at once or it's that much harder to identify whether or not they've improved anything.
    You honestly think you can change the meta so drastically and also expect people to validate whether or not server tweaks have improved performance?

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  • Bashev
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    Does anybody still believe that they will fix the lag?
    Because I can!
  • Ghost-Shot
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Does anybody still believe that they will fix the lag?

    No.
  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Does anybody still believe that they will fix the lag?

    lol
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  • Infinite12
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Does anybody still believe that they will fix the lag?

    Nope. But I haven't believed that fr a long time
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  • mertusta
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Does anybody still believe that they will fix the lag?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4
    Edited by mertusta on January 26, 2016 8:10PM
  • Suru
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Does anybody still believe that they will fix the lag?

    Realistically every mmo has had lag issues. I don't believe they will fix it, but I expect improvements. Keep in the particle leak isses and fps drop should be mended maybe by the addition of a 64 but client. Praise my RAM. Things will be better on our end along with tweaks on their end.


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  • Talcyndl
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Does anybody still believe that they will fix the lag?

    People believed it previously? :)
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  • Xsorus
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Does anybody still believe that they will fix the lag?

    I believe its more likely Bernie Sanders will get Universal Healthcare passed then they fix the lag.
  • AbraXuSeXile
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    Why would you put it in the DLC, it might be better but something else causes the lag in the DLC .

    Include them in incremental fixes to narrow it down.

    Actually i wrote this then laughed because im wasting my time and they aint gonna fix ***.
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  • Lava_Croft
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    These changes were held back for more internal testing and data changes, and will go up in the Thieves Guild patch.
    Yay, trust in ZOS QA completely restored.
  • Zaldan
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    Overload fixed the next day but PVP performance fixes
    These changes were held back for more internal testing and data changes, and will go up in the Thieves Guild patch.

    LOL
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  • heystreethawk
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    Has anyone in this family ever even seen a chicken
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  • Sallington
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    Has anyone in this family ever even seen a chicken

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  • Lokov
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    Why the f... ZOS whants money for product that looks like BETA and which still has to be on a BETA with this performance? Most terrible optimization and server quality EVER!
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  • aLi3nZ
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    I think it's good and wise choice by zos. Overload was a simple fix. Massive battle lag issues is not even close to simple. And you guys know what will happen if they apply a fix before doing a large amount of testing on every little aspect to ensure something else does not become bugged. You guys are gonna criticize them even harder then you are now for postponing the fix while they complete testing.
  • Talcyndl
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    aLi3nZ wrote: »
    I think it's good and wise choice by zos. Overload was a simple fix.

    Yup. If by simple fix you mean removing the seemingly unrelated fix to dodge roll that apparently broke Overload. :wink:

    Of course they weren't going to add any lag fixes to a hotfix. But we were expecting some changes to the patch (that later had to be hotfixed).
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  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    These changes were held back for more internal testing and data changes, and will go up in the Thieves Guild patch.

    Of course they were

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  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    aLi3nZ wrote: »
    I think it's good and wise choice by zos. Overload was a simple fix. Massive battle lag issues is not even close to simple. And you guys know what will happen if they apply a fix before doing a large amount of testing on every little aspect to ensure something else does not become bugged. You guys are gonna criticize them even harder then you are now for postponing the fix while they complete testing.

    Testing?

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    Edited by RinaldoGandolphi on January 29, 2016 1:52PM
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  • Minno
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    Talcyndl wrote: »
    aLi3nZ wrote: »
    I think it's good and wise choice by zos. Overload was a simple fix.

    Yup. If by simple fix you mean removing the seemingly unrelated fix to dodge roll that apparently broke Overload. :wink:

    Of course they weren't going to add any lag fixes to a hotfix. But we were expecting some changes to the patch (that later had to be hotfixed).

    It's also mind boggling to know that somehow dodge roll was tied to a sorc ultimate..
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  • Capsaica
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    I can't say I know anything about coding or programming. But I know that ZOS has been hesitant to roll out anything more than incremental changes to PvP because these changes need to be done on the live server rather than the PTS environment.

    How about a test campaign on the live server? Something that you can really screw up royally (intentionally or otherwise) just to test any ideas that might help solve the lag and many other issues affecting the Cyrodiil campaigns.

    Let anyone who wants to join the campaign join it as a "test" campaign, even if their other faction characters have already set their "test" campaign there. Give rewards for people participating so that you will get the populations that you will need.

    I don't know if it is possible to make an alternate Cyrodiil like this or not, but rolling out incremental changes...or waiting to roll them out with DLC is not enough. It takes too long and people are getting too frustrated. You are losing players like crazy, and almost all of the talk I hear while playing on "Lagzuras" is of other upcoming games.

    You have a lot of people who LOVE this game and especially the PvP. Find a way to let us help you test these things!
  • Chimchu
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    It is a shame that one day the lag will "fix" its self due to no-one logging in anymore. I find myself logging off as soon as the lag hits which is happening more frequent and soon it will get to a point whereby I just stop logging in as I know it will be cr@p.

    ZOS, you guys must be aware of other games coming out and I know the community is leaning to other games whilst the servers have problems which will shelf this game real quickly.

    You guys have an addictive PVP game which is like a drug with many addicted to it. Listen to your customers!

    Yep, already canceled my ESO subscription and have signed up for several beta's for other MMO's.

    *** love ESO but the lag makes me bitter.
  • frozywozy
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    Capsaica wrote: »
    I can't say I know anything about coding or programming. But I know that ZOS has been hesitant to roll out anything more than incremental changes to PvP because these changes need to be done on the live server rather than the PTS environment.

    How about a test campaign on the live server? Something that you can really screw up royally (intentionally or otherwise) just to test any ideas that might help solve the lag and many other issues affecting the Cyrodiil campaigns.

    Let anyone who wants to join the campaign join it as a "test" campaign, even if their other faction characters have already set their "test" campaign there. Give rewards for people participating so that you will get the populations that you will need.

    I don't know if it is possible to make an alternate Cyrodiil like this or not, but rolling out incremental changes...or waiting to roll them out with DLC is not enough. It takes too long and people are getting too frustrated. You are losing players like crazy, and almost all of the talk I hear while playing on "Lagzuras" is of other upcoming games.

    You have a lot of people who LOVE this game and especially the PvP. Find a way to let us help you test these things!

    As someone who have studied in programming, what I can't conceive yet is the fact that when Zenimax screws up royally on something that brings alot more problems, they can't actually rollback one module. It feels like everything that gets released on the live server will permanently be there until the next incremental change or hotfix (extreme measure).
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  • TheLaw
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    These changes were held back for more internal testing and data changes, and will go up in the Thieves Guild patch.

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  • Thraben
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    Hello Brian!

    Maybe you are reading this ;)

    Our guild has been changing the campaign recently, but it seems we are are PART OF THE PROBLEM, since our replacement campaigns have been starting lagging, too. Many players are quitting out of frustration, and that is not good for the game.

    I would strongly suggest that you implement a distinct campaign with "no-lag game rules", i.e.:

    1) skill costs are increased by 200% (reduces the skill induced lags)
    2) collision detection is activated (forces players to spread out), with teleport skills, dodge rolles, jump and charge skills as "liberators" from being trapped by player masses
    3) all players are equipped with one of three standard faction uniforms, though they are allowed to wear their guild shirt over it. (reduces greatly the lag caused by the calculation of individual appearances, see forth: the lag-free Planetside 2)

    Our guild would join such a campaign, as would many other "zerg" guilds, which would allow players who want to play without such restrictive rules to have a more empty and lag free AZURA´s.

    edit: Of course we wouldn´t call it the No-Lag server or Akatosh campaign, but simply describe it as a RP AvA campaign due to its much more realistic combat system with its focus on light and heavy attacks, ultimates, tactics, and siege weapons.
    Edited by Thraben on February 1, 2016 1:51PM
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  • Tomato
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    Both Azuras and Haderus have so much lag now it's not enjoyable. Axe is the biggest joke of a campaign and is the place AD gives away free emp titles. Trueflame only looks populated because Legend has its duels on that campaign and in reality the map is dead.

    After 4 pm you just have to log anymore.

    You got one more DLC left for a majority of your PvP community that has been around since the beginning.

    I wish you the best and good luck on fixing the lag!

    Edited by Tomato on February 1, 2016 1:38PM
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