Azura's Star Right Now

Joy_Division · January 2016

Recremen wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Some day people will realize that threads like this resolve zero issues and only breed resentment, toxicity, and hurt feelings.

We are people with emotions, egos, and memories. Can DC honestly expect AD *not* to get all pissed off after literally taking every single objective such that there was zero point gain? And then boast about it on the forums? And what prompted DC to do that? I get it, last emperor keep defense is going to be a s&*t show, but the horde of bananas advancing on Ash when Alessia, Roe, and Nickel were all secured was an example of zerging I have not witnessed since the EP pain train at its height back in 1.4-1.5.

It's an open world system with limited objectives and purposely placed funnels. 90% of the map is 100% useless. Why do you people take things so personally when you believe the other faction zergs more than yours? Why is it you remember the time you got zerged down at Arrius, but selectively forget the time you zerged them down at Alessia? Why do you post videos of yourself proudly 1vXing 5 people and winning and then bitterly complain the next time 5 people "zerg you down"? You think a few salty tells and forum posts are going to change the nearly two years of consistent player behavior? Has it ever occurred to you that people behave this way because 1) the map/game mechanics promote it and 2) people are generally much better at hypothetically talking about the high road than actually taking it once something happens in this game that pisses them off (which, invariably will be 5 minutes after logging in)? This community is a psychologist's wet dream.

The frustration you feel today is the same that your opponent felt yesterday. These posts that go beyond passive-aggressive and are just downright hostile just make playing the game that much worse.

Precisely, that's why I don't complain about zerging. That's a universal constant and while I prefer smaller fights, there is something delightfully chaotic about two giant 40+ groups clashing on each other ("group" being used loosely here to describe the number of people in play, not that people are coordinated or stacking on each other).

This thread was supposed to be making light of the meteor spam, nothing more.

I will grant that you have not been pointing fingers at other players for zerging.

However, this sort of post was inevitably going to devolve in the very sort of accusatory and toxic "conversation" that it became. I never once sent a whisper or complained to another player who used meteor against me even when I died to fall damage because I understand that my opponents have egos, they want to win, they are outnumbered, they just died to fall damage themselves 10 minutes ago, their other ultimates suck, etc. It is what it is. I don't think asking people to use sub-optimal abilities or intentionally play in a less effective manner is going to get very far. I don't expect my opponents to do that nor do I think there is some "social responsibility" that ought to compel them to play in such a way that increases - potentially dramatically so - their chance of losing. At the end of the day, if I see 50+ swarming yellows, it is asking a lot of me as a sorcerer to slot storm atronach and waste 200 ultimate rather than meteor.

Weberda · January 2016

Pchela wrote: »

nerf sorcs

They did. Overload no longer works after today's patch. You must have some pretty good connections with the devs.

RadioheadSh0t · January 2016

Weberda wrote: »

Pchela wrote: »

nerf sorcs

They did. Overload no longer works after today's patch. You must have some pretty good connections with the devs.

What did they do to overload? Nothing in the patch notes.

FENGRUSH · January 2016

Sounds like AD is bringing back the glory days of TKO!

Weberda · January 2016

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

Pchela wrote: »

nerf sorcs

They did. Overload no longer works after today's patch. You must have some pretty good connections with the devs.

What did they do to overload? Nothing in the patch notes.

That's the neat thing about patches. They often have surprises that you only find out about by reading the various forum threads by other "happy" players.

Takllin · January 2016

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

Weberda wrote: »

Pchela wrote: »

nerf sorcs

They did. Overload no longer works after today's patch. You must have some pretty good connections with the devs.

What did they do to overload? Nothing in the patch notes.

Doesn't activate.

Manoekin · January 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Sounds like AD is bringing back the glory days of TKO!

I'm laughing pretty hard at that.

@Publius_Scipio how long do I have to do this to get my own wheelchair?

Kupoking · January 2016

sounds like people are afraid of the boogie man in here.

WRX · January 2016

Just noticed the names above the dudes lol, that is funny.

However the picture is deceiving, what actually is happening there is us running from the bad guys on our backs.

Weberda · January 2016

WRX wrote: »

Just noticed the names above the dudes lol, that is funny.

However the picture is deceiving, what actually is happening there is us running from the bad guys on our backs.

Uh, looks more like AD streaming out of Alessia to the bridge and on up to Sej.

Joy_Division · January 2016

WRX wrote: »

Just noticed the names above the dudes lol, that is funny.

However the picture is deceiving, what actually is happening there is us running from the bad guys on our backs.

That's actually funny

WRX · January 2016

That picture in motion.

https://youtu.be/QtmW0tvXmi0

Weberda · January 2016

WRX wrote: »

That picture in motion.

https://youtu.be/QtmW0tvXmi0

Yep. Pretty sure that's Vujk in front. He comes after me a lot.

stealthyevil · January 2016

WRX wrote: »

That picture in motion.

https://youtu.be/QtmW0tvXmi0

Thank you for the morning lols, that was hilarious

Publius_Scipio · January 2016

Manoekin wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Sounds like AD is bringing back the glory days of TKO!

I'm laughing pretty hard at that.

@Publius_Scipio how long do I have to do this to get my own wheelchair?

You're Willy Wonka. You have a flying elevator. Here you are with a young Hektik and old man Methuselah.

https://youtu.be/cMkmGb1W-9s

Ghostbane · January 2016

WRX wrote: »

Just noticed the names above the dudes lol, that is funny.

However the picture is deceiving, what actually is happening there is us running from the bad guys on our backs.

The other two are running, you look like you are RP walking.

frozywozy · January 2016

Elong wrote: »

Praise Talos the heat is off EP for a night!

This is probably the first time in TESO history that EP is not involved or being blamed and ashamed in a forum thread.

Recremen · January 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Praise Talos the heat is off EP for a night!

This is probably the first time in TESO history that EP is not involved or being blamed and ashamed in a forum thread.

Eh, you never know, all I called out was "Meteor Spammers", and that's a fun-loving, diversity-friendly, inclusive statement right there it is!

EDIT:

AD spamming Meteor? That's a paddling.
EP spamming Meteor? That's a paddling.
DC Spamming Meteor? Ooooh you better believe that's a paddling.

Molag Ball spamming Meteor? That's going to be fixed in the next major update. 0=)

Ghostbane · January 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Praise Talos the heat is off EP for a night!

This is probably the first time in TESO history that EP is not involved or being blamed and ashamed in a forum thread.

You had to go and do it..

Ghost-Shot · January 2016

Jules wrote: »

Arashiha wrote: »

One of the reasons we have started using meteor is because of the initial burst a hail of them does when dropped on an opposing group. It increases our bomb potential quite substantially, although it has the affect of also making us inherently squishier targets due to the loss of some of our more damage mitigation ultimates. How ever as we and everyone else know's that when a meteor is used on someone on stairs the game is stupid and gives said people that are unfortunate enough to be knocked up to take any where from 40-120k fall damage. Regardless of your build this normally is a rather conclusive one shot.

Now VE does not intentionally use meteor on people on stairs to proc such fall damage, but that does not stop it happening once or twice with someone who runs up the stairs carrying a meteor when the back line of there group is getting bombed or what not. If we were to intentionally bomb another group on the stairs it would be alot more devastating than the one or two people you loses every so often to fall damage. It happens to us all, and its rarely if ever done on purpose with the intention of causing falldamage. It is done because it allows a rather substantial initial burst bomb.

As far as the zerging goes, meh we all do it. And DC was just on the receiving end of it tonight, like we are every other night, just as yellow will be at some point and then red. Although the late night zerging from yellow atleast for me was lots of fun, since it meant that on our day off VE not only had a raid running, but a raid running until almost 9pm my time (i am aussie so ya.)

Where was this logic when we were being yelled at for the very same?

We aren't waiting for groups to stack on stairs to use it.

zyk · January 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Praise Talos the heat is off EP for a night!

This is probably the first time in TESO history that EP is not involved or being blamed and ashamed in a forum thread.

Freudian slip?

Manoekin · January 2016

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Sounds like AD is bringing back the glory days of TKO!

I'm laughing pretty hard at that.

@Publius_Scipio how long do I have to do this to get my own wheelchair?

You're Willy Wonka. You have a flying elevator. Here you are with a young Hektik and old man Methuselah.

https://youtu.be/cMkmGb1W-9s

Sounds about right, actually. Impressive.

MountainHound · January 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Sounds like AD is bringing back the glory days of TKO!

"We only had 12"

Teargrants · January 2016

Manoekin wrote: »

I don't get where people are talking about AD stacking raids. RÁGE is almost always the only AD guild running during Azura primetime, and when Victorem has a group their raid times overlap with ours for only an hour. During that hour I usually only have 6-8 people or I postpone starting the raid until they are done. Times when we have emp are the exception to that. AD may have a lot of pugs, but people have to start realizing that it's just pugs and not 3 guilds coordinating with each other.

OK Mano I will spell it out for you very clearly. People talk about AD stacking raids because, people. see. AD. stacking. raids.

There's already been a number of Nickel assaults with 2 AD groups balled together running circles around the outpost.

Then there's last night's giant blob that we wiped potatoing from Nickel to Ash mile gate 3x before we pulled off to go defend north against EP.

Then there's the wonderful hokey pokey when we were supporting DC pugs sieging Ash after our maneuver to backcap Nickel (2 AD raids immediately rushed out of Ash straight to Nickel if you recall). As soon as Nickel burst, AD raid 1 pulled off to run back to Ash while AD raid 2 stayed and took Nickel. Meanwhile when AD raid 1 got back to Ash, they cleared out some pugs trying to siege front door outer, and I had VE waiting inside the front door to bomb them as they came through. Obviously there was a yellow inside calling out our movements in TS, cuz then AD raid 1 proceeded to run around first to the west postern, then front door, then east postern, then to north breach, then back to east postern, and finally back to front door where they decided to stack by the wall and wait for the next 1-2 min. I hade VE match their movements on the inside the whole time. Then lo and behold AD raid 2 comes riding up and both stack up in 1 ball, pop buffs and go in the front door. But hey, totes not stacking, right?

And of course how could I forget the scroll fights? 4x was it? 2 AD raids constantly trying to stack on each other. Sometimes you guys didn't come to the temple stacked up, then if one raid got wiped, the 2nd raid always tried pulling out back down the hill to the bridge and kiting until raid 2 rode back from Warden. The last time, I was actually standing down at the bridge watching AD raid 1 sitting on the bridge for 2-3 min until raid 2 showed up, then boom, buff up and out you guys rolled up the hill to the scroll temple.

So please, don't come in here and try acting shocked and appalled that people called AD out for stacking raids.

zyk · January 2016

MountainHound wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Sounds like AD is bringing back the glory days of TKO!

"We only had 12"

Agreed. This is definitely representative of a CN 12 player group Mano, WRX and Crown are escaping from.

Zheg · January 2016

Teargrants wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

I don't get where people are talking about AD stacking raids. RÁGE is almost always the only AD guild running during Azura primetime, and when Victorem has a group their raid times overlap with ours for only an hour. During that hour I usually only have 6-8 people or I postpone starting the raid until they are done. Times when we have emp are the exception to that. AD may have a lot of pugs, but people have to start realizing that it's just pugs and not 3 guilds coordinating with each other.

OK Mano I will spell it out for you very clearly. People talk about AD stacking raids because, people. see. AD. stacking. raids.

There's already been a number of Nickel assaults with 2 AD groups balled together running circles around the outpost.

Then there's last night's giant blob that we wiped potatoing from Nickel to Ash mile gate 3x before we pulled off to go defend north against EP.

Then there's the wonderful hokey pokey when we were supporting DC pugs sieging Ash after our maneuver to backcap Nickel (2 AD raids immediately rushed out of Ash straight to Nickel if you recall). As soon as Nickel burst, AD raid 1 pulled off to run back to Ash while AD raid 2 stayed and took Nickel. Meanwhile when AD raid 1 got back to Ash, they cleared out some pugs trying to siege front door outer, and I had VE waiting inside the front door to bomb them as they came through. Obviously there was a yellow inside calling out our movements in TS, cuz then AD raid 1 proceeded to run around first to the west postern, then front door, then east postern, then to north breach, then back to east postern, and finally back to front door where they decided to stack by the wall and wait for the next 1-2 min. I hade VE match their movements on the inside the whole time. Then lo and behold AD raid 2 comes riding up and both stack up in 1 ball, pop buffs and go in the front door. But hey, totes not stacking, right?

And of course how could I forget the scroll fights? 4x was it? 2 AD raids constantly trying to stack on each other. Sometimes you guys didn't come to the temple stacked up, then if one raid got wiped, the 2nd raid always tried pulling out back down the hill to the bridge and kiting until raid 2 rode back from Warden. The last time, I was actually standing down at the bridge watching AD raid 1 sitting on the bridge for 2-3 min until raid 2 showed up, then boom, buff up and out you guys rolled up the hill to the scroll temple.

So please, don't come in here and try acting shocked and appalled that people called AD out for stacking raids.

Not a single spiderman meme in all that? FFS sorc, I don't even know who you are any more.

Satiar · January 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

I don't get where people are talking about AD stacking raids. RÁGE is almost always the only AD guild running during Azura primetime, and when Victorem has a group their raid times overlap with ours for only an hour. During that hour I usually only have 6-8 people or I postpone starting the raid until they are done. Times when we have emp are the exception to that. AD may have a lot of pugs, but people have to start realizing that it's just pugs and not 3 guilds coordinating with each other.

OK Mano I will spell it out for you very clearly. People talk about AD stacking raids because, people. see. AD. stacking. raids.

There's already been a number of Nickel assaults with 2 AD groups balled together running circles around the outpost.

Then there's last night's giant blob that we wiped potatoing from Nickel to Ash mile gate 3x before we pulled off to go defend north against EP.

Then there's the wonderful hokey pokey when we were supporting DC pugs sieging Ash after our maneuver to backcap Nickel (2 AD raids immediately rushed out of Ash straight to Nickel if you recall). As soon as Nickel burst, AD raid 1 pulled off to run back to Ash while AD raid 2 stayed and took Nickel. Meanwhile when AD raid 1 got back to Ash, they cleared out some pugs trying to siege front door outer, and I had VE waiting inside the front door to bomb them as they came through. Obviously there was a yellow inside calling out our movements in TS, cuz then AD raid 1 proceeded to run around first to the west postern, then front door, then east postern, then to north breach, then back to east postern, and finally back to front door where they decided to stack by the wall and wait for the next 1-2 min. I hade VE match their movements on the inside the whole time. Then lo and behold AD raid 2 comes riding up and both stack up in 1 ball, pop buffs and go in the front door. But hey, totes not stacking, right?

And of course how could I forget the scroll fights? 4x was it? 2 AD raids constantly trying to stack on each other. Sometimes you guys didn't come to the temple stacked up, then if one raid got wiped, the 2nd raid always tried pulling out back down the hill to the bridge and kiting until raid 2 rode back from Warden. The last time, I was actually standing down at the bridge watching AD raid 1 sitting on the bridge for 2-3 min until raid 2 showed up, then boom, buff up and out you guys rolled up the hill to the scroll temple.

So please, don't come in here and try acting shocked and appalled that people called AD out for stacking raids.

Not a single spiderman meme in all that? FFS sorc, I don't even know who you are any more.

Mano stacked so hard it gave Spider-Man cancer. RIP

Teargrants · January 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

I don't get where people are talking about AD stacking raids. RÁGE is almost always the only AD guild running during Azura primetime, and when Victorem has a group their raid times overlap with ours for only an hour. During that hour I usually only have 6-8 people or I postpone starting the raid until they are done. Times when we have emp are the exception to that. AD may have a lot of pugs, but people have to start realizing that it's just pugs and not 3 guilds coordinating with each other.

OK Mano I will spell it out for you very clearly. People talk about AD stacking raids because, people. see. AD. stacking. raids.

There's already been a number of Nickel assaults with 2 AD groups balled together running circles around the outpost.

Then there's last night's giant blob that we wiped potatoing from Nickel to Ash mile gate 3x before we pulled off to go defend north against EP.

Then there's the wonderful hokey pokey when we were supporting DC pugs sieging Ash after our maneuver to backcap Nickel (2 AD raids immediately rushed out of Ash straight to Nickel if you recall). As soon as Nickel burst, AD raid 1 pulled off to run back to Ash while AD raid 2 stayed and took Nickel. Meanwhile when AD raid 1 got back to Ash, they cleared out some pugs trying to siege front door outer, and I had VE waiting inside the front door to bomb them as they came through. Obviously there was a yellow inside calling out our movements in TS, cuz then AD raid 1 proceeded to run around first to the west postern, then front door, then east postern, then to north breach, then back to east postern, and finally back to front door where they decided to stack by the wall and wait for the next 1-2 min. I hade VE match their movements on the inside the whole time. Then lo and behold AD raid 2 comes riding up and both stack up in 1 ball, pop buffs and go in the front door. But hey, totes not stacking, right?

And of course how could I forget the scroll fights? 4x was it? 2 AD raids constantly trying to stack on each other. Sometimes you guys didn't come to the temple stacked up, then if one raid got wiped, the 2nd raid always tried pulling out back down the hill to the bridge and kiting until raid 2 rode back from Warden. The last time, I was actually standing down at the bridge watching AD raid 1 sitting on the bridge for 2-3 min until raid 2 showed up, then boom, buff up and out you guys rolled up the hill to the scroll temple.

So please, don't come in here and try acting shocked and appalled that people called AD out for stacking raids.

Not a single spiderman meme in all that? FFS sorc, I don't even know who you are any more.

Satiar wrote: »

Mano stacked so hard it gave Spider-Man cancer. RIP

Satiar · January 2016

zyk wrote: »

MountainHound wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Sounds like AD is bringing back the glory days of TKO!

"We only had 12"

Agreed. This is definitely representative of a CN 12 player group Mano, WRX and Crown are escaping from.

CN is kinda the boogeyman now. I have WRX telling me I'm stacked with 3 raids of CN when I'm by myself and CN isn't even running. It's just an excuse

Minno · January 2016

Teargrants wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

I don't get where people are talking about AD stacking raids. RÁGE is almost always the only AD guild running during Azura primetime, and when Victorem has a group their raid times overlap with ours for only an hour. During that hour I usually only have 6-8 people or I postpone starting the raid until they are done. Times when we have emp are the exception to that. AD may have a lot of pugs, but people have to start realizing that it's just pugs and not 3 guilds coordinating with each other.

OK Mano I will spell it out for you very clearly. People talk about AD stacking raids because, people. see. AD. stacking. raids.

There's already been a number of Nickel assaults with 2 AD groups balled together running circles around the outpost.

Then there's last night's giant blob that we wiped potatoing from Nickel to Ash mile gate 3x before we pulled off to go defend north against EP.

Then there's the wonderful hokey pokey when we were supporting DC pugs sieging Ash after our maneuver to backcap Nickel (2 AD raids immediately rushed out of Ash straight to Nickel if you recall). As soon as Nickel burst, AD raid 1 pulled off to run back to Ash while AD raid 2 stayed and took Nickel. Meanwhile when AD raid 1 got back to Ash, they cleared out some pugs trying to siege front door outer, and I had VE waiting inside the front door to bomb them as they came through. Obviously there was a yellow inside calling out our movements in TS, cuz then AD raid 1 proceeded to run around first to the west postern, then front door, then east postern, then to north breach, then back to east postern, and finally back to front door where they decided to stack by the wall and wait for the next 1-2 min. I hade VE match their movements on the inside the whole time. Then lo and behold AD raid 2 comes riding up and both stack up in 1 ball, pop buffs and go in the front door. But hey, totes not stacking, right?

And of course how could I forget the scroll fights? 4x was it? 2 AD raids constantly trying to stack on each other. Sometimes you guys didn't come to the temple stacked up, then if one raid got wiped, the 2nd raid always tried pulling out back down the hill to the bridge and kiting until raid 2 rode back from Warden. The last time, I was actually standing down at the bridge watching AD raid 1 sitting on the bridge for 2-3 min until raid 2 showed up, then boom, buff up and out you guys rolled up the hill to the scroll temple.

So please, don't come in here and try acting shocked and appalled that people called AD out for stacking raids.

Not a single spiderman meme in all that? FFS sorc, I don't even know who you are any more.

Satiar wrote: »

Mano stacked so hard it gave Spider-Man cancer. RIP

Lol.

Edit: not sure why that extra Spidey meme snuck in there.