Alucardo wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

How about this? Presenting you the true passive mode!

While in passive mode:

1. EXP gain is reduced by 100% (Additive with other bonuses like Ambrosia or ESO Plus)
2. Gold gain is reduced by 100%
3. Item drop rate is reduced by 100%
4. Damage Taken from players reduced by 100%
5. Damage Dealt to players is reduced by 100%
6. Healing Done to players is reduced by 100%

Sure, you can be there, but you won't be able to do anything meaningful while you are there. That's what being passive means right?

Fantastic suggestion, but there should also be "AP gain is reduced by 100%". Based on them rules they could still repair walls

Touche. I'll go edit it in

whatever thanks for lightening the thread a bit @DeanTheCat any more tension and it would have turned into something Alex would close.

Cyrodiil is a PvP zone.

There are games where there's a big open world where you can fight everywhere except cities and villages (peace-zones). How would you play this game? Questing and killing mobs in PVP zones all the time. And it's actually fun.
For those moaners who cry "oh he killed me while I was gathering rubedite ore, such a ***!" it would be great to have all the 5 questing cities as a safe-zones without PVP at all. When you cross some invisible line you get into peace-zone where you can't be killed and can't kill anyone.

Cyrodiil is balanced around the fact it is a PvP zone. The players who brave the danger of being attacked by other faction's players are being rewarded by a much better rate of XP gain. For example you won't find a repeatable quest with standard XP reward that can be completed in 30 seconds anywhere in the pure PvE portion of the game.

With higher danger come better rewards. Asking to be immune to enemy players while PvE-ing in cyrodiil is basically asking for a handout(reaping the better rewards without paying the price).

Here is another solution, just have a second instance of Cyrodiil that isn't PvP (It removes the PvP related quests, The PvP NPCs and enemy players and allied player's not in passive mode will not appear for you, you wouldn't beable to gain AP or take any keeps but you would still beable to the PvE there and there won't be any spying or anything because you wont beable to see anyone who is PvPing, it might as well be a different campaign, also it would help you PvPers as well because many people in the campaigns are PvErs trying to do quests and they are blocking up the campaign so your performance may also be better if they have their own) kind of like when you go into an area yet it can appear different to other players if they haven't done a quest there, there is NO reason why the game shouldn't have this as its a video game not the Olympic games, there is no reason why it should be stressful also many of you keep forgetting that some of us have mass latency issues and we physically can't compete in PvP because of it and you have no idea what that is like so you are in no right to judge.

Many of these people who say L2P should wake up and face reality, many of you are no where near as good as you think you are in PvP, many of the people you are doing combat with can't react fast enough because it takes the server several seconds to process their actions because their ping is so high, you would complain 2 if your ping stayed at an average of 400 which is far in the red, I for 1 take damage about 1.1 seconds before I even see the animation, you try PvPing with that.

Infact here is an idea for Zenimax, have a Post-War version of Cyrodiil as a DLC or something which can act like a completely different zone where it's PvE related and you can help the blades and you can deal with the aftermath of the war like rebuilding the towns, this would be a good way to include things like cloud ruler temple, the abbey of the eight, the temple of the ancestor moth and so on, you could even have it the zone where you can quest with players from other alliances and you cant attack them or vice versa as you will be considered allies in this version of cyrodiil and the war and the soul burst will be considered over.

Why not just create a separate instance of Cyrodill that's pve only?

Aquanova wrote: »

Why not just create a separate instance of Cyrodill that's pve only?

A valid question. The entire zone is so heavily scripted towards PvP encounters to the point where large portions of the zone would become crippled and inacessible if the PvP component were simply removed or deactivated. They would need to replace that component with NPC's and script and rework every encounter in almost every area in Cyrodiil which is the largest zone in the game. Personally I think this would be a worthy cause, but it would likely take a year or more to complete if they stopped working on everything in the pipeline now and focused on that instead.

dRudE wrote: »

OP entered a PvP map, OP got killed by player in PvP map, OP wants PvP map to be made PvE to make life easier doing PvE in PvP map.

NO. This game already has such low risk/reward, I'd rather see PvE quests and dungeons only open up to players once you reach a certain Alliance rank or provide enough support to your alliance.

On my Vr16 main, I'm pvp rank veteran and I've definitely done my time on Azura battlefields. My gripe is when I just wanna quietly work on levelling my low level healer character and a group of 4 vr16s jump me while my screen is on npc dialogue

Etaniel wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Let me ask this question how many people that disagree with this idea are so pathetic iboth in the game and in real life that the only way to get enjoyment is by ruining someones fun? I bet the answer for a few of you especially the people that have posted rude comments most likely by the time I am done typing this post is yes I am that pathetic.

PS: Combining PvP and PvE is stupid IT WILL NOT WORK NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY TO GET IT TO WORK just take the damn skyshards in cyrodiil and reposition them in PvE zones so these threads can end PvPers already get like one skillpoint per PvP rank so that is their reward. why encourage grieving ZOS?

Would you agree if PvPers asked for a passive mode in dungeons where no mobs can attack you and ruin your fun? And you'd get free loot just for running to the end of the dungeon? Of course you wouldn't.
Reward requires effort. Rewards in Cyrodil requires a special kind of effort.

That's a ridiculous, hyperbolic comparison and you know it. Do better.

Thorn416 wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Let me ask this question how many people that disagree with this idea are so pathetic iboth in the game and in real life that the only way to get enjoyment is by ruining someones fun? I bet the answer for a few of you especially the people that have posted rude comments most likely by the time I am done typing this post is yes I am that pathetic.

PS: Combining PvP and PvE is stupid IT WILL NOT WORK NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY TO GET IT TO WORK just take the damn skyshards in cyrodiil and reposition them in PvE zones so these threads can end PvPers already get like one skillpoint per PvP rank so that is their reward. why encourage grieving ZOS?

Would you agree if PvPers asked for a passive mode in dungeons where no mobs can attack you and ruin your fun? And you'd get free loot just for running to the end of the dungeon? Of course you wouldn't.
Reward requires effort. Rewards in Cyrodil requires a special kind of effort.

That's a ridiculous, hyperbolic comparison and you know it. Do better.

All right, not loot. Passive mode in dungeons to get lore books without getting attacked. Less hyperbolic, still completely stupid.

FANTASTIC IDEA

Why not implement PvP immunity in Cryo so that the PvE crowd can run around freely.

BUT


Also give PvPers the chance to run vMSA for their weapons without the mobs being able to damage us.

This will allow more PvPers the chance to enjoy this zone.......

seeming like these threads are either agreeing or disagreeing I have an answer you may like
if you want a zone with no gankers and a generally quiet server try axe of berzalthes or whatever its called I do quests there all the time and I have not been ganked once unless I was really asking for it either way you want pve in cyrodil that's the closest you can get.

It's no fun being ganked when questing in Cyrodiil. Happened to me a few times when I was doing the quests there, so I understand.

But why ask to introduce a major change when Zos already has enough problems keeping the game running smoothly. Besides, there are already answers to your problem. Either run Radiant Magelight or use Detection pots at quest hubs. If you don't, frankly you deserve to be ganked for knowingly entering a hostile zone unprepared.

Prior proper planning prevents poor performance.