What is considered a melee attack?

AGrz5585 · December 2015

As the title says, what is considered a melee attack? Is it just weapon skills or stamina morphs or is talons and lava whip considered melee as well

Forestd16b14_ESO · December 2015

Uh well light and heavy attacks from swords, maces, axes, and 2H versions of the weapons weapons are considered melee attacks. I also do believe the weapon skills from SnS, 2H, and DW are considered melee. (Despite WB having a range f 20 meters.)

ryanborror · December 2015

I doubt talons is but I do recall somewhere that biting jabs procs red diamond imperial passive so I'd assume whip would if that's what you're getting at

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · December 2015

Attacks that don't "fire" anything if that helps it's not all about range but the way the attack works.

lolo_01b16_ESO · December 2015

Melee attacks are:
- light or heavy attack with 2 handed, dw or 1h/shield
- skills that cost stamina and have a maximum range of 8m or less
- charge skills that cost stamina
- evil hunter procs (not quite sure about this one, but with evil hunter up, some skills procced adrenalin rush, that usually don't proc it)

Alucardo · December 2015

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

- skills that cost stamina and have a maximum range of 8m or less

Actually ambush procs ashen grip, so that's considered a melee attack as well. The range on ambush is much further than 8m

DeanTheCat · December 2015

A "Melee" attack is:

- Any ability that has 8m or less range
- Any gap closer
- Any ability that has a weapon held in your hand (Conjured or Physical) directly striking an enemy as part of its animation.

This means that these attacks are considered melee:
- Searing Strike
- Dragon Leap
- Flame Whip
- Burning Breath
- Puncturing Strikes
- Focused Charge
- Radical Sweep
- Teleport Strike
- Veiled Strike
- Assassin's Blade
- Killer's Blade
- Death Stroke
- Soul Tether
- Caltrops (Why is this still considered melee ZOS?)
- Puncture
- Low Slash
- Shield Charge
- Power Bash
- Cleave
- Critical Charge
- Uppercut
- Reverse Slash
- Twin Slashes
- Flurry
- Whirlwind
- Whirling Blades (Steel Tornado is not melee)
- Blade Cloak
- Scattershot (Another ZOS special, Bow "Melee" attack)
- Drain Essence
- Pounce
- Befouled Claws
- Impulse

lolo_01b16_ESO · December 2015

Alucardo wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

- skills that cost stamina and have a maximum range of 8m or less

Actually ambush procs ashen grip, so that's considered a melee attack as well. The range on ambush is much further than 8m

I know, but I consider ambush a charge skill, of which I mentioned that they count as melee even though they have a greater range.

@DeanTheCat
When did you test the skills on your list? Last time I tested it (IC pts) skills that cost magicka didn't count as melee attack.

DeanTheCat · December 2015

@lolo_01b16_ESO

This testing was done when they changed that Orc Racial to grant bonus damage to melee attacks (Forgot which patch it was in). I basically recorded down all the tooltip damage. Then I put points into the passive and checked which abilities had their tooltip value changed.

Nifty2g · December 2015

i believe the melee range is 5 meters

CP5 · December 2015

I have no idea at this point. A while ago (haven't tested since then) I was able to proc the ashen grip set by streaking and with restoration heavy attacks. Both were on targets that were withing the 5-8ish range. I also seem to feel that having volley going in the same area you are fighting has that set proc more often, and since it procs off of melee attacks I can't say.

lolo_01b16_ESO · December 2015

Ok, I did some tests with the Redguard adrenalin rush passive (checked caltrops with orc aswell)
no melee:
- razor caltrops
- scatter shot
- steel tornado
- flying blade
- flawless dawnbreaker
- extended chains
- choking talons
- hardened armour damage return
- flame whip
melee:
- take flight
- shield charge
- bash
- evil hunter
- burning breath

zornyan · December 2015

Teleport strike and lotus fan aren't considered melee apparently, they also don't get the stealth damage bonus that ambush or physical damage attacks get

Tryxus · December 2015

Anything that does Physical Damage

Jura23 · December 2015

Tryxus wrote: »

Anything that does Physical Damage

Really? Even ranged physical attacks? That would be weird.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · December 2015

zornyan wrote: »

Teleport strike and lotus fan aren't considered melee apparently, they also don't get the stealth damage bonus that ambush or physical damage attacks get

Teleport Strike is granted the stealth bonus Lotus Fan is an AoE so it can't get it.

Jura23 wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Anything that does Physical Damage

Really? Even ranged physical attacks? That would be weird.

Scatter Shot from the Bow is Melee but it also has a 10m range so IDK.