Healers, what's the most frustrating thing(s) you go through with every group?

Kammakazi · December 2015

Curious.

lolo_01b16_ESO · December 2015

- dds pulling when neither me nor the tank are ready
- tanks who refuse to move out of high damage aoes because they "can survive it" and fail to see that they only survive because I just burnt 20-30k magicka
- when my combat log shows me that I did more than 50% of our total dps

RAGUNAnoOne · December 2015

People who stand in stupid, people who go way out of range of my heals, general it's the healers fault attitude, only temps can heal attitude.

Spearshard · December 2015

A tank that just stands there fidgeting refusing to go grab agro to start the fight. Seriously it's like they're waiting for a written invitation...aside from everyone saying they're ready. As a healer, zos making it so temps are really the preferred healers, shards! I need shards!

eliisra · December 2015

The things that annoys me the most as healer is also the things that annoys me the most as tank.

1. Most frustrating is players with low dps.

2. Second place is these guys(usually stamina NB's) who always yolos into massive trash packs and spams Steel Tornado without blocking or moving out of red stuff.

They die will insta-die the very second you stop heal spamming. But when heal spamming you cant help with support duties/groups resource management and off-dps. So annoying when you cant even weapon swap and pop a magicka orb, because you know that guy is going to die in one global cooldown.

Tank needs to get control over the hardest hitting mele guys, before dps can brain afk and mash AoE. Need to block, dodge and think about positioning for a few seconds, after the you pull a big pack of mobs. This is something literally everyone seems to know, besides Steel Tornado spamblades.

3. People not waiting while you're swapping skills or gear. As healer(same with tank) you sometimes need to change a few things, before certain bosses. A lot of people only playing dps, aren't aware of this and they facepull boss, getting you in combat with crucial skills or even gear missing. Do not aggro boss before people are ready, especially when they're saying "PLEASE WAIT" in group chat.

Catblade · December 2015

People who think i'm superman

Shunravi · December 2015

eliisra wrote: »

The things that annoys me the most as healer is also the things that annoys me the most as tank.

1. Most frustrating is players with low dps.

2. Second place is these guys(usually stamina NB's) who always yolos into massive trash packs and spams Steel Tornado without blocking or moving out of red stuff.

They die will insta-die the very second you stop heal spamming. But when heal spamming you cant help with support duties/groups resource management and off-dps. So annoying when you cant even weapon swap and pop a magicka orb, because you know that guy is going to die in one global cooldown.

Tank needs to get control over the hardest hitting mele guys, before dps can brain afk and mash AoE. Need to block, dodge and think about positioning for a few seconds, after the you pull a big pack of mobs. This is something literally everyone seems to know, besides Steel Tornado spamblades.

3. People not waiting while you're swapping skills or gear. As healer(same with tank) you sometimes need to change a few things, before certain bosses. A lot of people only playing dps, aren't aware of this and they facepull boss, getting you in combat with crucial skills or even gear missing. Do not aggro boss before people are ready, especially when they're saying "PLEASE WAIT" in group chat.

so much this

talabrina · December 2015

Remember when ''Repentance'' was not scale to Max Stamina?
And all those Stamplar who were stoling all our corpse?

MY. CORPSES. !!

ssewallb14_ESO · December 2015

Squishy DPS that can't stay out of red demanding more utility. I would love to throw you shards if I could stop casting breath of life for a second.

Xellos77 · December 2015

"Sweet, you'll heal? Oh. You're not a Templar. Sorry dude. We need shards. And without BoL you're useless. Reroll Temp and come talk to me in a few weeks."

redspecter23 · December 2015

Not stacking up for heals in situations where stacking for heals would make things 10x easier.

This one is more of a pet peeve and not a game breaker but having 2 members in front of you receiving combat prayer and one ranged attacker trying their best to stand right behind you for the entire fight when they could just as easily be standing right beside the others.

Praeficere · December 2015

Xellos77 wrote: »

"Sweet, you'll heal? Oh. You're not a Templar. Sorry dude. We need shards. And without BoL you're useless. Reroll Temp and come talk to me in a few weeks."

Never see this on PC (EU, DC). A comment is rarely made on the/about a non-Templar healer, must be a console thing.

emeraldbay · December 2015

Xellos77 wrote: »

"Sweet, you'll heal? Oh. You're not a Templar. Sorry dude. We need shards. And without BoL you're useless. Reroll Temp and come talk to me in a few weeks."

this. I've been kicked from groups before even getting to start just because I'm not a Templar.

group members who run all over the place screaming “HEAL ME” because they're getting hit by things, but they forget that my healing circles are waaaaay over there near the boss, so I have to waste magicka giving them their own little area.

also, tanks who are not tanks.

also, people who claim to be able to fill all three roles (tank, dps, healer) with only one build, and end up doing terribly instead.

ZioGio · December 2015

Everyone thinking they can solo trash mobs so they run off in three different directions, out of range of each other, expecting me to keep them all alive.

timidobserver · December 2015

People who don't synergy my @#$%^&*( Mystic Orb.

Syrani · December 2015

You all have covered a lot of what bugs me, but what bugs me the most is being asked to provide more spears/bubbles during a fight where everyone is taking heavy damage, everyone is spread out, and I have to heal non stop. It's like we are expected to be responsible for everyone's sustain, but they don't stop to think that maybe we are having sustain issues ourselves with everyone taking so much damage, and being unable to use aoe heals efficiently due to the spread. Having low dps in the group exacerbates this problem, since the fight is then prolonged.

Fruitmass · December 2015

emeraldbay wrote: »

group members who run all over the place screaming “HEAL ME” because they're getting hit by things, but they forget that my healing circles are waaaaay over there near the boss, so I have to waste magicka giving them their own little area.

Lol! God, do I know how that feels. Seriously, AoE heals, stand in them! They're a good thing

Also, when no one else will take a second to revive a dead party member. I may be the healer but there are times I can't stop healing or we're all going to die. Do me the favor aye?

Makkir · December 2015

Most frustrating situation is when you are grouped with 3 pugs who don't understand that the role of the healer is NOT to just stand there and spam heals but to also contribute to DPS. Healer is always the first to blame for a wipe because most pug dps suffer from tunnel vision and don't move out of red or play out mechanics.

Sometimes as a sorc healer I can even out DPS others while maintaining heals. But try to explain this to a group of pugs who just LOL at you and tell you to L2P after they die, especially the Titan boss in vet CoA.

UrQuan · December 2015

DPS who can't stay out of red, don't know when to interrupt, block, or dodge-roll, and who run off away from where I'm trying to heal.

I never seem to have trouble with tanks screwing things up the way DPS so frequently do. In my experience (and this isn't just from my experience as a healer - this comes from when I'm playing as a tank or as a DPS too) when a group is struggling 75% of the time or more, it's the fault of one or two of the DPS. The tank or the healer are rarely the problem.

emeraldbay wrote: »

also, people who claim to be able to fill all three roles (tank, dps, healer) with only one build, and end up doing terribly instead.

I can do all 3 roles on my VR16 templar without respeccing, but I wouldn't exactly say with only one build, as it requires me to swap out my gear and skill bars. My stats when I'm tanking are drastically different from my stats when I'm healing or DPSing, due to completely different gear sets/enchants. Trying to fill all 3 roles without swapping my gear & slotted skills would be a freaking disaster.

pelennor_fields · December 2015

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

- dds pulling when neither me nor the tank are ready
- tanks who refuse to move out of high damage aoes because they "can survive it" and fail to see that they only survive because I just burnt 20-30k magicka
- when my combat log shows me that I did more than 50% of our total dps

Nailed it.

Sukenlihol · December 2015

Nothing.

Heal, Buff, Shield, Resources. Use every detail and skill as much as you can, not only breath of life. You are not a Blood Altar, you are a SUPPORT.

I know, we will always be guilty. Because of Low DPS, because of paper tanks, because of red zone lovers. Hey! Don't care, remember this: First words of all excuses are you, naturally.

So, If question is: "are we Supermen?", then answer is clear : "Although you are not Superman, you have Batman skills."

KingYogi415 · December 2015

having a dragon knight dps.

DK has to be worst class right now.

I have seen some stamplars put out massive damage.

squishy nightblades.

people who refuse to join group chat (ps4) you need to at least listen for bosses

I cant stand getting rolled over by some stupid warlock in pvp. just why cant templars win anything in pvp.

templars need a dps buff and maybe a heal nerf to balance.

self sustain people! me doing no dps because i have to spam BOL the whole raid is boring AF.

GET VIGOR YOU NIGHTBLADES

emeraldbay · December 2015

KingYogi415 wrote: »

having a dragon knight dps.

DK has to be worst class right now.

I have seen some stamplars put out massive damage.

squishy nightblades.

people who refuse to join group chat (ps4) you need to at least listen for bosses

I cant stand getting rolled over by some stupid warlock in pvp. just why cant templars win anything in pvp.

templars need a dps buff and maybe a heal nerf to balance.

self sustain people! me doing no dps because i have to spam BOL the whole raid is boring AF.

GET VIGOR YOU NIGHTBLADES

in response to the bolded fragments:

let me start off by saying I've had some very good dragonknight DPSers before. it's entirely possible.

and let me end by saying that nightblades have quite a bit of self-sustaining capability without the need for Vigor.

eldermpsmithrwb17_ESO · December 2015

IMO tank role is the diversion of damage away from DPS so they can burn.

DPS role is to burn whilst trying to avoid as much dmg as possible.

Healing is to heal, and IMO to give the DPS health pool high so they can concentrate on dmg, so they not distracted from doing damage, the more they can not worry about dodging, self healing etc they more they can put into burning down.

We all need to learn our roles better as well as knowing the fights.

Frustrates me is when i do more damage as a healer than one of the DPS, this shouldnt happen but i happily contribute to damage, sometimes doing damage is a way for party members to avoid damage.

Francescolg · December 2015

Worst thing was healing a stamina NB called XXwölf (name changed)

talabrina · December 2015

KingYogi415 wrote: »

having a dragon knight dps.

DK has to be worst class right now.

I always (well, almost !) play with the same 4-man team. One of the best DPS that I know is a DK Stam. And some of the best pars that I've seen on Trials boss are with Magicka DK (Go see Mashinate, insane DPS).
So I would prefer to play with a 3 - 4 DK Team, then having DPS of any class that just don't care about 'the team'.

Don't blame the class, blame the player! XD

(PUG Group can be somtimes real pain!)

KICHZY · December 2015

What I hate most is Tanks who push forward pulling enemies without any consideration the state my magicka is in. In most cases it's still recovering from healing them from the last mobs he/she pulled in which they were to lazy in "avoiding" damage!

hamburgerler76 · December 2015

bin healing since beta even switched to console when that came out so have done both systems and on both I have the same prob DPS or tanks who stand in aoes, don't roll dodge, or block then they turn and look at me like where are the heals? lol

hamburgerler76 · December 2015

oh also that I can only be a "good healer" on my Templar I would love to take advantage of the
DK heal buffs and damage shield mixed with trinimacs valor set. but since I don't have spear shards or breath of life im just kicked. so I only heal on my temp now.

Islyn · December 2015

eliisra wrote: »

They die will insta-die the very second you stop heal spamming. But when heal spamming you cant help with support duties/groups resource management and off-dps

*You* can't. I can.

However, I completely agree with the rest of your post.

cdobratz · December 2015

eliisra wrote: »

The things that annoys me the most as healer is also the things that annoys me the most as tank.

1. Most frustrating is players with low dps.

I don't mind this if they are low cp, as having 25% extra damage through cp is a huge part of someones dps abilities.

But the best advice I ever received while playing ESO was that the dps' job is to dps while obeying the healer. That may hurt a lot of egos, but in my case I always had a bad case of tunnel vision while dpsing.