Islyn wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

I never thought i'd see the day folks would defend a company for forcing popup advertising in your face...sure you can close it but your FORCED to look at it with ZERO way to opt out.

There should always be a way to opt out of this kind of stuff, ZOS offers no way to do so...even if you hide the message once as soon as they change something in the store, its back...thats just ridiclious....

@RinaldoGandolphi Just want to be sure. You do understand this pop-up doesn't happen every time you log in right? Once you've closed it, you do not see it again until they change something in the crown store. So this is going to pop up.. what, once or twice a MONTH? It's not like Zos changes the crown store daily.

I understand it and I still think interstitials are rude. I don;t tolerate it on free websites by using ad blocker so why would I tolerate it in paid content?

I get that I have the choice of deal with it or leave the game - but before I leave the game for the 3rd time, I want to at least say something about it.

@Islyn I did mention previously that I also would agree with a box to opt out. Who knows, maybe Zos will add it as they did listen to the community when displeasure was shown about the in game server messages for the crown store. I can agree with you on that we will need to agree to disagree I'm fine with understanding that everyone has an opinion - and opinions are neither right, or wrong. (Including my own)

[EDIT] Oh, and those emails actually annoy me.... I get two because I did the PS4 transfer... but since I really only have 1 account.. I'm not sure if I "unsubscribe" to one.. if it will unsub my whole account from the email and then I'll get none. Haha.

MissBizz wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

I never thought i'd see the day folks would defend a company for forcing popup advertising in your face...sure you can close it but your FORCED to look at it with ZERO way to opt out.

There should always be a way to opt out of this kind of stuff, ZOS offers no way to do so...even if you hide the message once as soon as they change something in the store, its back...thats just ridiclious....

@RinaldoGandolphi Just want to be sure. You do understand this pop-up doesn't happen every time you log in right? Once you've closed it, you do not see it again until they change something in the crown store. So this is going to pop up.. what, once or twice a MONTH? It's not like Zos changes the crown store daily.

Yes im aware, but it still lacks an "Opt-Out Option"

I should be able to go under settings and "Turn Off Crown Store Notifications" It should present me a screen telling me i will no longer see new and updated items, I hit OK and then i never see another Crown Store announcement.

An advertising mechanism without an opt out option is unconscionable in today's age..

this is a HUGE betrayal of trust by ZOS...they promised us they would never force Crown Store advertisements on us again...remember when they had that big text ad awhile back then they removed it and ZOS got on here and apologized and promised they wouldn't do it again,

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/164507/are-on-screen-advertisements-for-the-crown-store-acceptable/p1

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Just to confirm on this end, we indeed do not plan to continue with in-game messaging for items such as this (though we will still message if the server is going down, for example). We understand this was not appreciated or desired, and will find better ways to message limited Crown Store items that do not interfere with your gameplay experience.


ZOS_GaryA wrote: »
Hey there folks,
Just to increase the visibility, we have confirmed that we will no longer be using the server announcement platform for advertisements in this post. We want to sincerely thank everyone for providing constructive feedback about this, as it helps us continue to make improvements to the world we all love to play in!

Jessica Folsom 22 April, 2015 @ 10:34 pm
We don’t plan on doing the in-game messaging anymore. That was, honestly, just to get the word out about the Senche-Leopard due to the very limited amount of time it was being offered. We heard our players loud and clear that they didn’t like the in-game messaging, so it’s gone the way of the dinosaurs. We’re working on better in-game messaging about limited-time offers and sales that aren’t as intrusive.

and now here we are..they are again doing the same thing, just using a different method of forced delivery with no way to opt out.

This is just downright wrong...the majority of the players in that poll said such forced on-screen advertising was unacceptable, the voice was loud and unanimous, players don't want ads forced down their throats...as a long time paying customer, its this kind of stuff right here that breaks customers trust.....Zenimax, you really need to add an opt-out option or remove it from the game until you can...no one should be forced to have an Ad crammed in their face at any juncture...not having an opt-out mechanism is simply unacceptable.

im all about you advertising the items in your Crown store so long as you provide a mechanism to opt out of those messages so a user no longer sees them if thats what the user wants.

I am glad for this one time notification of new items added to the CS!

Didn't like it, but didn't care enough to create a forum post about it. Since I'm here:

I sub. Don't spam me.

SleepyTroll wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

I never thought i'd see the day folks would defend a company for forcing popup advertising in your face...sure you can close it but your FORCED to look at it with ZERO way to opt out.

There should always be a way to opt out of this kind of stuff, ZOS offers no way to do so...even if you hide the message once as soon as they change something in the store, its back...thats just ridiclious....

Once a month. Once a month, is all you'll have to see this.

I only have my period once a month too and don't want to have to do that, either. Jussayin. :-P

Yeah, I noticed it on the PTS and I think it's pretty vile. FWIW, I have cancelled my sub on my main account as I have low tolerance for this sort of thing. I strongly feel that subscribers should get the option to not display these ads.

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

this is a HUGE betrayal of trust by ZOS...they promised us they would never force Crown Store advertisements on us again...remember when they had that big text ad awhile back then they removed it and ZOS got on here and apologized and promised they wouldn't do it again,

You're misrepresenting what they said. It's actually easy to see where what they said isn't what you thought they said, because you provided the quotes that show that they didn't say what you're saying they said.*

Jessica Folsom 22 April, 2015 @ 10:34 pm
We don’t plan on doing the in-game messaging anymore. That was, honestly, just to get the word out about the Senche-Leopard due to the very limited amount of time it was being offered. We heard our players loud and clear that they didn’t like the in-game messaging, so it’s gone the way of the dinosaurs. We’re working on better in-game messaging about limited-time offers and sales that aren’t as intrusive.

And now here we are, with better in-game messaging about limited-time offers and sales that aren't as intrusive.

*Note: I said saying and said way too many times there. That was ridiculous of me, and I apologize in advance to anyone who reads what I said.

Alucardo wrote: »

This was the first time I've seen it, and the first picture was of the goat pet which I'm sure a lot of people are happy to see. I doubt this will be a regular occurrence as well.
Why are people acting like Zenimax ransacked their house and killed their dog?

Because that's what people do on the internet.

What harm would come from making this optional?

omg...O M G.... ZOS must have the most patience of any company out there with threads like these being made....

UrQuan wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

this is a HUGE betrayal of trust by ZOS...they promised us they would never force Crown Store advertisements on us again...remember when they had that big text ad awhile back then they removed it and ZOS got on here and apologized and promised they wouldn't do it again,

You're misrepresenting what they said. It's actually easy to see where what they said isn't what you thought they said, because you provided the quotes that show that they didn't say what you're saying they said.*

Jessica Folsom 22 April, 2015 @ 10:34 pm
We don’t plan on doing the in-game messaging anymore. That was, honestly, just to get the word out about the Senche-Leopard due to the very limited amount of time it was being offered. We heard our players loud and clear that they didn’t like the in-game messaging, so it’s gone the way of the dinosaurs. We’re working on better in-game messaging about limited-time offers and sales that aren’t as intrusive.

And now here we are, with better in-game messaging about limited-time offers and sales that aren't as intrusive.

*Note: I said saying and said way too many times there. That was ridiculous of me, and I apologize in advance to anyone who reads what I said.

Here we are with a better in-game messaging system that is not as intrusive?

Are you kidding me? How is replacing an in-game message annoucement with an in-your face pop ad you can't turn off and your forced to look at in any way "better and unobtrusive"?

Im going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your not a ZOS shill. Im not misrepresenting what they said, They didn't offer a better system, they forced one on you that you can't opt out of or shut off that in many ways is actually worse the old message notification they used before.

there is nothing better about this approach..its infact the same approach they used before just now they are using a forced pop up ad instead of a text announcement on your screen, its the same damn thing as before. Yes ZOS is breaking the trust of their customers...they promised us they would not give us forced ads or messages advertising Crown Store items that we can't shut off, this is the same thing as server annoucements, its just a more obnoxious pop up version you can't shut off.

As someone else in this thread alluded to, this don't bode well for things to come...things like this belong in F2P games, not in games with subs, premium membership, and B2P status that folks actually have to pay for the game to even play it...its ridiculous they don't have an opt out option for this, if they did i would then have no issues with it and would agree its a better solution, but as long as it has no way to opt out, its not and ZOS has went back on their word they said they wouldn't do this type of stuff in an invasive manner.

ZOS put an opt-out option in the game, thats all you have to do if you do that its fine, don't force your paying customers to look at ads with an invasive pop up on their screen, give your customers the opportunity to opt-out...its the right thing to do.

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

this is a HUGE betrayal of trust by ZOS...they promised us they would never force Crown Store advertisements on us again...remember when they had that big text ad awhile back then they removed it and ZOS got on here and apologized and promised they wouldn't do it again,

You're misrepresenting what they said. It's actually easy to see where what they said isn't what you thought they said, because you provided the quotes that show that they didn't say what you're saying they said.*

Jessica Folsom 22 April, 2015 @ 10:34 pm
We don’t plan on doing the in-game messaging anymore. That was, honestly, just to get the word out about the Senche-Leopard due to the very limited amount of time it was being offered. We heard our players loud and clear that they didn’t like the in-game messaging, so it’s gone the way of the dinosaurs. We’re working on better in-game messaging about limited-time offers and sales that aren’t as intrusive.

And now here we are, with better in-game messaging about limited-time offers and sales that aren't as intrusive.

*Note: I said saying and said way too many times there. That was ridiculous of me, and I apologize in advance to anyone who reads what I said.

Here we are with a better in-game messaging system that is not as intrusive?

Are you kidding me? How is replacing an in-game message annoucement with an in-your face pop ad you can't turn off and your forced to look at in any way "better and unobtrusive"?

Really? You're actually trying to claim that a one-time pop-up on login that you can instantly get rid of with one click isn't better and less obtrusive than having big yellow letters pop up right in the middle of your screen over and over multiple times while you're in the middle of playing the game, along with a sound to announce them, and with no way to exit out of them? I call ***.

The Drama Queens in this thread need to seriously take a Midol.

in my OP I said calmly, NO to popups in a paid game.

Just no.

Not FREAKED OUT AND LOST IT near at all as much as everyone else is acting like a popup is the best thing since gravity.

Just agree to disagree and calm down.

It is a big issue to me that they even think this is OK - but there is no need for all the DRAAAAAMMAAAA!

Oh yeah, and more agrees on my post than on any of yours so there you go.