A pop up window for Crown Store on char load! Seriously?

Islyn

I am sorry but NO WAY.

I pay a sub and I do not appreciate basically Pop up ads I have to close or wait for them to close before I can do anything with my character.

Am I gonna need AD Blocker - ESO Edition? I guess I'll get in touch with them about an add-on.

daemonios

100% agreed.

I sub. Don't give me ads.

Ruben

It's a one time thing when the Crown Store is updated. It's not so terrible.

Islyn

Ruben wrote: »

It's a one time thing when the Crown Store is updated. It's not so terrible.

How do you know it's a one time thing?

I've never seen it before, so.

Also, a text chat message 'Crown Store Updated' is sufficient.

Not a pop-up ad. Just no on that.

Also, if people like you start saying it's OK, it's just gonna creep in more and more.

I am saying no, right now.

AmmonErebos

Islyn wrote: »

Ruben wrote: »

It's a one time thing when the Crown Store is updated. It's not so terrible.

How do you it's a one time thing?

I've never seen it before, so.

Also, a text chat message 'Crown Store Updated' is sufficient.

Not a pop-up ad. Just no on that.

Also, if people like you start saying it's OK, it's just gonna creep in more and more.

I am saying no, right now.

If you read patch notes you would know it only appears when crown store is updated

KriHavok

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Crown Store
General
The Crown Store will now be able to display Limited Time Offers.
Announcements for featured Crown Store items will now display upon login, and will only reappear when the featured section has changed if the prompt is dismissed.
Note: These will only appear once per account, not each time you log into a new character.

- Patch Notes

It's only a one-time notification, unless the Crown Store changes, which isn't too regular to be an issue really.

UrQuan

So nobody reads the patch notes? *

This is a one-time thing that you'll see the first time you log on to a character on your account (but not on each character) when there's something that's different in the featured items on the Crown Store. It's so that people are aware of the new stuff, but it's only one time so that it's not annoying.

*Other than @AmmonErebos and @KriHavok anyway...

Islyn

Fair enough I didn't read the patch notes - but I still strongly disagree with this and dislike it utterly.

It was offering me XP scrolls (I didn't look at the rest) and said nothing about check out new crown store.

I do not care why or how often because one pop-up window in a game I already pay for is too many.

There are plenty of other ways to do this that are not this crude and tacky.

notimetocare

Is there nothing people won't cry about?

Islyn

notimetocare wrote: »

Is there nothing people won't cry about?

Apparently you are on my thread to cry.

UrQuan

Islyn wrote: »

Fair enough I didn't read the patch notes - but I still strongly disagree with this and dislike it utterly.

It was offering me XP scrolls (I didn't look at the rest) and said nothing about check out new crown store.

I do not care why or how often because one pop-up window in a game I already pay for is too many.

There are plenty of other ways to do this that are not this crude and tacky.

I strongly disagree with you. This is the best way to make sure people are aware of new offerings without being overly intrusive, and it's neither crude nor tacky. Having notices on the forums doesn't work because most people don't come to the forums, and even the ones who do frequently miss notices here. Having notices on the launcher doesn't work because a lot of people don't even use the launcher except when they need patches, and of the people who do use the launcher, people don't usually pay any attention to what shows up there. Having a system notification pop up while you're in the middle of playing (as they tried that one time) doesn't work because it only helps if you happen to be online at the time the notification comes up, so they have to do it multiple times in order to catch as many people as possible, and that's annoying as hell for people who are online and playing.

A one-time pop-up on login when things have changed is the best way to keep people from whining that they didn't know something was available and they missed it (and there has been a lot of that), while still being totally reasonable and not annoying.

I'm sorry, but I find your position on this to be 100% unreasonable.

ShadowMage

I much prefer this over the IN-GAME text banners they used before...

SleepyTroll

Islyn wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

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You didn't even read the patch notes.

[Moderator Note: Removed moderated quote]

RedTalon

Let's keep the insults and name calling down people, pop up ads now in-game oh well

Islyn

ShadowMage wrote: »

I much prefer this over the IN-GAME text banners they used before...

Do you? It must be a preference thing. I preferred those lol.

This was in game, I loaded into my character and could do nothing till I clocked close on this pop up ad.

I don't really care if other people think I am 'crying' (I assure you I am not.) or whatever. I feel that if I don't say anything it is acquiescence to this sort of thing when it is not.

Gidorick

I'd much prefer this instead of pop-ups IN-GAME... this is a much better method of advertisement.

That being said, I think if you are a subscriber to ESO+ you should have the option to turn off the popup.

CP5

It's an infrequent reminder of crown store changes. Best instance I remember seeing this was in a video when someone was on pts, loaded in and saw the goat in the crown store. That is what it's for, text banners that fade or text in chat are easy to miss. If you want an example of excessive ads you should look at planet side 2 a long while ago...

MissBizz

UrQuan wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

Fair enough I didn't read the patch notes - but I still strongly disagree with this and dislike it utterly.

It was offering me XP scrolls (I didn't look at the rest) and said nothing about check out new crown store.

I do not care why or how often because one pop-up window in a game I already pay for is too many.

There are plenty of other ways to do this that are not this crude and tacky.

I strongly disagree with you. This is the best way to make sure people are aware of new offerings without being overly intrusive, and it's neither crude nor tacky. Having notices on the forums doesn't work because most people don't come to the forums, and even the ones who do frequently miss notices here. Having notices on the launcher doesn't work because a lot of people don't even use the launcher except when they need patches, and of the people who do use the launcher, people don't usually pay any attention to what shows up there. Having a system notification pop up while you're in the middle of playing (as they tried that one time) doesn't work because it only helps if you happen to be online at the time the notification comes up, so they have to do it multiple times in order to catch as many people as possible, and that's annoying as hell for people who are online and playing.

A one-time pop-up on login when things have changed is the best way to keep people from whining that they didn't know something was available and they missed it (and there has been a lot of that), while still being totally reasonable and not annoying.

I'm sorry, but I find your position on this to be 100% unreasonable.

I agree with @UrQuan wholeheartedly. I have seen dozens of threads here on the forums about how people missed out on limited time items because they didn't know. ONE pop-up on ONE characters only when the crown store is changing is a good thing. I have no idea why it was trying to sell you XP scrolls (likely because it's a brand new system and somehow thinks everything in the crown store is new?) but I really thought it was a good idea. I wouldn't have seen the limited time goats on the PTS if it wasn't for that. I hated the time they put up the flashing message across the screen - when I was in the middle of enjoying the game - and of course, it didn't help anyone who wasn't online. At least this is RIGHT when you log in, so no worries about it popping up while you're in the middle of a battle.

SleepyTroll

Gidorick wrote: »

I'd much prefer this instead of pop-ups IN-GAME... this is a much better method of advertisement.

That being said, I think if you are a subscriber to ESO+ you should have the option to turn off the popup.

I could agree with this.

ShadowMage

Gidorick wrote: »

That being said, I think if you are a subscriber to ESO+ you should have the option to turn off the popup.

I can agree with this. I think they still need/want to advertise to subscribers (afterall they need to spend those crowns on something), but the option should be available to disable the ads.

Divinius

UrQuan wrote: »

I strongly disagree with you. This is the best way to make sure people are aware of new offerings without being overly intrusive, and it's neither crude nor tacky. Having notices on the forums doesn't work because most people don't come to the forums, and even the ones who do frequently miss notices here. Having notices on the launcher doesn't work because a lot of people don't even use the launcher except when they need patches, and of the people who do use the launcher, people don't usually pay any attention to what shows up there. Having a system notification pop up while you're in the middle of playing (as they tried that one time) doesn't work because it only helps if you happen to be online at the time the notification comes up, so they have to do it multiple times in order to catch as many people as possible, and that's annoying as hell for people who are online and playing.

A one-time pop-up on login when things have changed is the best way to keep people from whining that they didn't know something was available and they missed it (and there has been a lot of that), while still being totally reasonable and not annoying.

I'm sorry, but I find your position on this to be 100% unreasonable.

This, entirely.

They need to sell things in the crown store to make money, and they need to make money to keep the game alive. This method is the best balance between "most effective" and "least intrusive" for making players aware of new items they can purchase.

I'm a subscriber, and I find this implementation totally acceptable.

MissBizz

CP5 wrote: »

It's an infrequent reminder of crown store changes. Best instance I remember seeing this was in a video when someone was on pts, loaded in and saw the goat in the crown store. That is what it's for, text banners that fade or text in chat are easy to miss. If you want an example of excessive ads you should look at planet side 2 a long while ago...

Ahaha, yeah. That was me I was genuinely excited, surprised, and glad they showed that pop-up. As mentioned previously in this thread, I wouldn't have known about the pet otherwise.

Gidorick wrote: »

I'd much prefer this instead of pop-ups IN-GAME... this is a much better method of advertisement.

That being said, I think if you are a subscriber to ESO+ you should have the option to turn off the popup.

I could agree with this. To be honest I would even agree with EVERYONE being able to turn it off if they so choose. Although, they would need to swear they will never complain of missing a limited time item.. EVER.

UrQuan

MissBizz wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

It's an infrequent reminder of crown store changes. Best instance I remember seeing this was in a video when someone was on pts, loaded in and saw the goat in the crown store. That is what it's for, text banners that fade or text in chat are easy to miss. If you want an example of excessive ads you should look at planet side 2 a long while ago...

Ahaha, yeah. That was me I was genuinely excited, surprised, and glad they showed that pop-up. As mentioned previously in this thread, I wouldn't have known about the pet otherwise.

Gidorick wrote: »

I'd much prefer this instead of pop-ups IN-GAME... this is a much better method of advertisement.

That being said, I think if you are a subscriber to ESO+ you should have the option to turn off the popup.

I could agree with this. To be honest I would even agree with EVERYONE being able to turn it off if they so choose. Although, they would need to swear they will never complain of missing a limited time item.. EVER.

Except you know that if there was an option to turn it off people would turn it off and then complain about missing stuff... Even if they clicked a box saying "I agree not to whine about missing stuff due to turning off this notification" it would still happen.

RinaldoGandolphi

I never thought i'd see the day folks would defend a company for forcing popup advertising in your face...sure you can close it but your FORCED to look at it with ZERO way to opt out.

There should always be a way to opt out of this kind of stuff, ZOS offers no way to do so...even if you hide the message once as soon as they change something in the store, its back...thats just ridiclious....

MissBizz

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

I never thought i'd see the day folks would defend a company for forcing popup advertising in your face...sure you can close it but your FORCED to look at it with ZERO way to opt out.

There should always be a way to opt out of this kind of stuff, ZOS offers no way to do so...even if you hide the message once as soon as they change something in the store, its back...thats just ridiclious....

@RinaldoGandolphi Just want to be sure. You do understand this pop-up doesn't happen every time you log in right? Once you've closed it, you do not see it again until they change something in the crown store. So this is going to pop up.. what, once or twice a MONTH? It's not like Zos changes the crown store daily.

Islyn

MissBizz wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

I never thought i'd see the day folks would defend a company for forcing popup advertising in your face...sure you can close it but your FORCED to look at it with ZERO way to opt out.

There should always be a way to opt out of this kind of stuff, ZOS offers no way to do so...even if you hide the message once as soon as they change something in the store, its back...thats just ridiclious....

@RinaldoGandolphi Just want to be sure. You do understand this pop-up doesn't happen every time you log in right? Once you've closed it, you do not see it again until they change something in the crown store. So this is going to pop up.. what, once or twice a MONTH? It's not like Zos changes the crown store daily.

I understand it and I still think interstitials are rude. I don;t tolerate it on free websites by using ad blocker so why would I tolerate it in paid content?

I get that I have the choice of deal with it or leave the game - but before I just leave the game (I'm not yet, or anything and I wouldn't post it first if I were :P ) for the 3rd time, I want to at least say something about it.

Islyn

Yeah I am posting my thoughts on this, not trying to garner or cater to yours.

As much as I usually respect and even am often on the side of most of you guys - in this instance we're gonna have to agree to disagree.

I find it unacceptable.

Send me an email. Like every other advertiser.

ShadowMage

Islyn wrote: »

we're gonna have to agree to disagree.

Agreed.


I honestly feel like this is the best compromise. It gets the word out to the most people without being overly intrusive.

Gidorick

Islyn wrote: »

Send me an email. Like every other advertiser.

lol. Now THAT would be worse, in my opinion.

Islyn

Gidorick wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

Send me an email. Like every other advertiser.

lol. Now THAT would be worse, in my opinion.

xD Well I ignoreall that and it filters to 'Circular File' so not me lol!

Islyn

ShadowMage wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

we're gonna have to agree to disagree.

Agreed.


I honestly feel like this is the best compromise. It gets the word out to the most people without being overly intrusive.

Yeah and I felt like the opposite. Like it was utterly intrusive.

But that's OK - I will still you!