@Asayre When you get the chance do you mind testing this on different classes, as we know ZOS tends to have different calculations for different classes and some scale differently with skills and champion points etc as all of this is done on a sorcerer I'm just kinda curious to see how it varies in different classes (if at all)
As for Templars I've been doing a lot of testing and have found out that TBS beats pretty much any other set for Templars, this shines truly when you're in 7/7 Divines which can be tricky to obtain. Actually most if not all of the classes are benefiting most from TBS in 7/7 Divines
Great work, Asayre!
A few things for further consideration:
- What was your amount of Champion Points invested in Elfborn during the test?
- Testing Julianos with Shadow Mundus
- Results will be different for Nightblades with their +10% Critical Damage (Hemorrhage passive), which naturally leans them towards Crit builds more
SublimeSparo wrote: »Hi,
Slightly off main topic but you guys seem very clued up about the maths behind the mechanics;
Am I correct in understanding these optimum allocation of champion points;
Sorcerer- 100 elemental expert, 58 elfborn, 9 spell erosion
Templar- 100 thaumaturge, 58 elfborn, 9 spell erosion
I have been putting points into thaumaturge on my sorc, is there a meaningful difference?
The difference is: Thaumaturge boosts magic damage, Elemental Expert boosts elemental (shock, fire, frost) damage.
As a sorcerer, your main skills (Force Pulse, Liquid Lightning, Overload) do shock damage, hence are unaffected by Thaumaturge. It affects your Crystal Fragments though, and your restoration skills (if any). I don't know about wards and pet attacks. Same applies to DK's, who mostly do fire damage.
On the other hand, Templars and NBs mostly do magic damage, hence Thaumaturge is preferable for them.
I may be missing something, feel free to complete my answer.
HIghwayRobberBill wrote: »too late, we got excited and crafted the whole set.... then improved it to legendary lol
@SublimeSparo, @d8rmir , it's screwy and always has been.SublimeSparo wrote: »
The difference is: Thaumaturge boosts magic damage, Elemental Expert boosts elemental (shock, fire, frost) damage.
As a sorcerer, your main skills (Force Pulse, Liquid Lightning, Overload) do shock damage, hence are unaffected by Thaumaturge. It affects your Crystal Fragments though, and your restoration skills (if any). I don't know about wards and pet attacks. Same applies to DK's, who mostly do fire damage.
On the other hand, Templars and NBs mostly do magic damage, hence Thaumaturge is preferable for them.
I may be missing something, feel free to complete my answer.
Cheers
Makes sense, I'd always assumed (incorrectly) that pretty much all magicka based attacks were classed as 'magic' damage regardless of whether they were dealing fire/ice/shock/magic damage.
Hmmm tough choice to make then- increase the damage of hard hitting frags or up the damage of the more commonly used less powerful attacks and overload or split evenly between them..
Does CP in either affect spell damage, and if so is it incrementally per point or are there jump points as with elfborn?
I really wish there were addons/ dps meter for PS4!
Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
Most make the initial assumption that Destruction staff = Elemental Destruction staff, and all visual effects don't exactly indicate otherwise.
Any news on this guys?
have you verified Elfborn passive is working correctly on PTS? Last time I checked it was only giving half benefit. 1% Crit damage was actually making your 50% = 50.5%.
It boils down to what I said earlier.have you verified Elfborn passive is working correctly on PTS? Last time I checked it was only giving half benefit. 1% Crit damage was actually making your 50% = 50.5%.
They finally fixed Elfborn.
To put it in terms easily grasped without much understanding of math, with a High CP player (400-500 CPs) you will have enough bonus crit damage that the shadow mundus contribution actually becomes a smaller percentage of your overall damage. This means that the extra spell power and crit given by Julianos exceeds the benefits of the Shadow mundus by a fair margin because of this.
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »stonerskate109 wrote: »I'm running 2 torugs pact, 3 willpower, 5 kagrenacs as well as 2 valkyn skoria and I sit at 2840 spell damage as a templar. I'm definitely going with julianos when it comes out I'll sit at closer to 30 with valkyn skoria procs which will be super sweet
Using skoria is a dps loss...
Hiero_Glyph wrote: »It boils down to what I said earlier.have you verified Elfborn passive is working correctly on PTS? Last time I checked it was only giving half benefit. 1% Crit damage was actually making your 50% = 50.5%.
They finally fixed Elfborn.
To put it in terms easily grasped without much understanding of math, with a High CP player (400-500 CPs) you will have enough bonus crit damage that the shadow mundus contribution actually becomes a smaller percentage of your overall damage. This means that the extra spell power and crit given by Julianos exceeds the benefits of the Shadow mundus by a fair margin because of this.
Do these findings hold true for the Templar (PvE) as well, or is TBS better due to Burning Light and crit heals?