Is CC immunity broken in 1.7?

Tomato · October 2015

Tomato · October 2015

Yes

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DannyLV702 · October 2015

Yes

Its been broken forever now

Tomato · October 2015

Yes

ZOS you should really respond to this and show you care.

Dracane · October 2015

Yes

What do you mean when you say 'Broken' ? Wouldn't help me if I was a developer.
Broken like it's not working, too strong, too weak. Explain

DeanTheCat · October 2015

Yes

Dracane wrote: »

What do you mean when you say 'Broken' ? Wouldn't help me if I was a developer.
Broken like it's not working, too strong, too weak. Explain

Certain skills are not granting CC-Immunity, allowing CC-es to be chained. The most infamous offender is the bugged Power Bash. However, there are skills that sometimes do not give CC-Immunity, which include but not limited to Uppercut, Crystal Shards, Piercing Javelin, Scattershot, Destructive Touch and Aspect of Terror.

This has resulted in an inconsistency in the rule of "If you get hit by CC, you cannot be CC-ed again for 5 seconds". Therefore, CC-Immunity is "Broken". Chaining CC-es intentionally or unintentionally is really cheesy, and leads only to sheer frustration from the victim. Also, don't get me started on the buggy CC-Break...

HonourXL · October 2015

Yes

its definitely broken. i got WB by 3 people i never got CC immunity at all. im breaking it and the other dude send me back to the floor again. and its happen all the time. it mostly happens by WB tho.

ShadowDisciple · October 2015

No

i really never experienced CC chaining on me or anyone else...and ive came back 3 weeks ago to the game and spent aloooot of time in pvp....

Shinra · October 2015

Yes

CC immunity is a bit... troublesome.

You can chain CC somebody with wrecking blow without him ever getting immunity. (You need to get the timing right though)

But the more annoying ones are those guards with their attacks which you can't break at all. (Half of the time)

TheDarkShadow · October 2015

Today I got knock back bug. A mob knock me down and I stuck in the animation, laying on the ground, couldn't break free, couldn't attack, but I could move around, while still on the ground. I happened for like 10s, then suddenly I were "freed".

ku5h · October 2015

Yes

Most common combination i get hit by is, ambush stun followed by wb sending me into the air...
Its really anoying

GuyNamedSean · October 2015

Yes

Absolutely. CC-Immunity does not proc as it should. In fact, pretty much every time I've ever been ganked has been due to ineffective CC-Immunity.

Dracane · October 2015

Yes

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

What do you mean when you say 'Broken' ? Wouldn't help me if I was a developer.
Broken like it's not working, too strong, too weak. Explain

Certain skills are not granting CC-Immunity, allowing CC-es to be chained. The most infamous offender is the bugged Power Bash. However, there are skills that sometimes do not give CC-Immunity, which include but not limited to Uppercut, Crystal Shards, Piercing Javelin, Scattershot, Destructive Touch and Aspect of Terror.

This has resulted in an inconsistency in the rule of "If you get hit by CC, you cannot be CC-ed again for 5 seconds". Therefore, CC-Immunity is "Broken". Chaining CC-es intentionally or unintentionally is really cheesy, and leads only to sheer frustration from the victim. Also, don't get me started on the buggy CC-Break...

Ah well. This exists since a very long time. There is a very short time frame, where you can get CCed right before you break free. They simply need to let the immunity hit in earlier or just change some mechanics. Don't think this is too hard.

Waffennacht · October 2015

Yes

Recently I used Crystal Frag, then proc it and knocked down my opponent within just 1 or 2 secs. It was not consistently ignoring the CC immunity.

Also the buggy break free.

So yes

Dracane · October 2015

Yes

Waffennacht wrote: »

Recently I used Crystal Frag, then proc it and knocked down my opponent within just 1 or 2 secs. It was not consistently ignoring the CC immunity.

Also the buggy break free.

So yes

Happened to me for the first time a few weeks ago. I hit someone with crystal shard. And my next one must have hitted in the right moment and the target was knocked down again.
So it happened one time in almost 2 years

But I believe there are people, who are trained to abuse this.

starlizard70ub17_ESO · October 2015

Yes

About 70% of my deaths are due to broken CC, the other 30% are due to my own stupidity

Dracane · October 2015

Yes

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

About 70% of my deaths are due to broken CC, the other 30% are due to my own stupidity

99% of my deaths are due to cheaters and exploiters 1% due to lag

Tomato · October 2015

Yes

Is anyone looking into this?

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Keepercraft · October 2015

Yes

I feel about that patch like that.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2NMhlqBnCs

mr_wazzabi · October 2015

Yes

9% either do not play pvp, don't pvp at peak times, or have an ungodly internet connection.

For everyone else, cc immunity is lagged out.

TheDarkShadow · October 2015

ku5h wrote: »

Most common combination i get hit by is, ambush stun followed by wb sending me into the air...
Its really anoying

Ambush doesnt stun player. It only immobilize you. It's only a soft cc and you break it by dodge roll, so you can still be stun or fear or knockdown or any other hard cc right after it.

failkiwib16_ESO · October 2015

Yes

I experienced a templar in IC sewers CC me, to the point of no dodging or breaking free was possible and killed me. His damage was not very high, but his CC knowledge lead to my death a couple of times.

I honestly don't know what he used. I have also experienced a nightblade perma CC me a couple of times.

Yes I tried to rolldodge, break free and block. Nothing worked in either cases. Since they run pvp builds their damage is really pitiful, so I got time to try to break free, block and rolldodge.

Tomato · October 2015

Yes

Still nothing?

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Tomato · October 2015

Yes

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GuyNamedSean · October 2015

Yes

Swiift wrote: »

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I'm with you on this. I'm a tank that can hit the mitigation cap. I shouldn't get stun-locked and die in about three seconds because Agony can be spammed on me by one person as the other attacks me.

And for the record, I've noticed a lot of people are travelling in two man gank squads to do exactly that. One person spams some cheap CC and the other attacks. On the rare occasion CC-immunity works, I can easily bust free and beat those s'wits into the dirt. When it fails to give me the immunity? I just sit there and die. Really ruins Cyrodiil for me.

Sharee · October 2015

GuyNamedSean wrote: »

When it fails to give me the immunity? I just sit there and die.

Don't wait for something to give you CC immunity. CC break yourself.

CC break immunity is both longer(8 seconds) and more reliable(you always get CC immunity after a break) than waiting for CC to expire to get auto-immunity(5 seconds, and sometimes applied too late which results in chain-CC).

Johngo0036 · October 2015

Yes

It is sooooo broken..

Not just that but you also get unbreakable CC,
I was feared numerous times and with full stamina i could not break the fear..

Needless to say i died..

GuyNamedSean · October 2015

Yes

Sharee wrote: »

GuyNamedSean wrote: »

When it fails to give me the immunity? I just sit there and die.

Don't wait for something to give you CC immunity. CC break yourself.

CC break immunity is both longer(8 seconds) and more reliable(you always get CC immunity after a break) than waiting for CC to expire to get auto-immunity(5 seconds, and sometimes applied too late which results in chain-CC).

I am using Break Free. I tend to immediately get stunned again. If I actually got eight seconds of immunity then it would take four guys to kill me because of my high mitigation and on the rare occasion that the immunity works, that is exactly the case. Unfortunately, CC-Immunity very rarely works in Cyrodiil.

Interestingly, I've never had it fail while dungeoning. Wether the enemies aren't CCing often enough to notice it fail or it's only player-initiated moves that breach the immunity, I'm unsure.

Sharee · October 2015

GuyNamedSean wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

GuyNamedSean wrote: »

When it fails to give me the immunity? I just sit there and die.

Don't wait for something to give you CC immunity. CC break yourself.

CC break immunity is both longer(8 seconds) and more reliable(you always get CC immunity after a break) than waiting for CC to expire to get auto-immunity(5 seconds, and sometimes applied too late which results in chain-CC).

I am using Break Free. I tend to immediately get stunned again. If I actually got eight seconds of immunity then it would take four guys to kill me because of my high mitigation and on the rare occasion that the immunity works, that is exactly the case. Unfortunately, CC-Immunity very rarely works in Cyrodiil.

Interestingly, I've never had it fail while dungeoning. Wether the enemies aren't CCing often enough to notice it fail or it's only player-initiated moves that breach the immunity, I'm unsure.

I've been playing since beta and i never got CC-ed within 8 seconds after using break-free. However there were plenty of times where it felt like the immunity was shorter than 8 seconds, when it fact it was full 8 seconds(i had to review the recording to realize that).

If you get CC-ed right after CC break so often, catch it on video and post.

Stigant · October 2015

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

ku5h wrote: »

Most common combination i get hit by is, ambush stun followed by wb sending me into the air...
Its really anoying

Ambush doesnt stun player. It only immobilize you. It's only a soft cc and you break it by dodge roll, so you can still be stun or fear or knockdown or any other hard cc right after it.

Actually, Ambush is the one and only gap-closer, that will stun you if used from stealth .. and sometimes if you get hit by another CC while still under effect of that stun or during the break-free animation the second CC will affect you.
Also its quite hard to say sometimes if you are stuned or immobilized, because your character will not go into "stuned position" every time, sometimes happens that while standing still (like when immobilized only) you are actually stuned so you try to roll which you (not so) obviously can't. Or you get immobilized by it and then feared which often results in slight delay of the "running away in fear" animation. Fear CC, for some reason, often cannot be broken free while it's animation doesn't kick in, which then players precieve as so called "unbreakable" CC.

Tomato · October 2015

Yes

ZOS are you looking into this?

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