Cant believe you didnt fix the monster mitigation.

WE CANT TEST ANYTHING UNTIL YOU FIX THE DAMAGE!

One week of testing wasted....now another week wasted.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

ZOS is so silly

All this to say I'm not sure of the impact of this bug on the doability of the vet arena. And yes obviously the conditions will not be the same between the 1st week and the 2nd but the scoreboards won't be shared anyway, and yes, EU will have a slight advantage, but c'm'on guys, this is only a for-fun-contest on PTS.

You don't seem to get it, so I'll spell it out for you.

With the damage bug, you CAN NOT finish the veteran maelstrom arena. You need to finish it to get on the leaderboards. I can assure you no one is going to finish it this week.

You have no idea how difficult it is.

Dymence wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

ZOS is so silly

All this to say I'm not sure of the impact of this bug on the doability of the vet arena. And yes obviously the conditions will not be the same between the 1st week and the 2nd but the scoreboards won't be shared anyway, and yes, EU will have a slight advantage, but c'm'on guys, this is only a for-fun-contest on PTS.

You don't seem to get it, so I'll spell it out for you.

With the damage bug, you CAN NOT finish the veteran maelstrom arena. You need to finish it to get on the leaderboards. I can assure you no one is going to finish it this week.

You have no idea how difficult it is.

LOL I get it don't worry ;-)
What I meant is :
1/ if nobody finishes ZOS will reward the one who's gone farthest (is that english ? farthest ? :-) )
2/ should they do differently, well yes, NA server will miss a chance to win a for-fun contest on a totally unfair basis, prepare to call gamers' rights NGOs, take over the White House and do the revolution ;-)

NB : on a more serious note : I understand, yes it's a bit screwed, but hey, just chill.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Did the patch change the Orsinium Writs/Material Leveling again?

I just pulled a Clothing Writ from the Orsinium City board and received a Writ for Belkarth, Craglorn.



The character is VR6 with L50 Clothing Skill with 10/10 material passive. I thought the writs were still tied to material skill levels with Orsinium. Did today's patch add back in a character usable check as well?

Or is the writ board not accepting that I have access to Orsinium as a VR6 character with battle leveling.

If the writ board in Orsinium is going to use requirement tables all the way from Veteran 14 to Veteran 16 we will have to jump all the way back and forth between Craglorn and Orsinium.

If the Orsinium writ board has the same character level check as Craglorn does for VR1 then that should be noted in the patch notes or add a notice to the writ board that you will still only receive VR14 material writs unless you are character level VR15.

SpAEkus wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Did the patch change the Orsinium Writs/Material Leveling again?

Nope. I abandoned all my writs and picked up new ones. On my VR16 with all crafting maxed, I'm still getting Rubedite, Ancestor Silk, and Ruby Ash writs. Also, Essence for alchemy and Superb for enchanting.

The Rkindaleft Group Event will no longer award a skill point every time you complete it.

Awww... I loved that and was hoping it would stay!

ommyboy wrote: »

Damn! Where is the fix for loading screen??

... or lags in Cyro.
Anyway that trolling with potion of invisibility is over - sad change. Still havent found anything about obtaining Mercenary motfit in notes nor forums.
And... that leaving Maelstorm not fixed is kinda unfair for NA - even if i am EU player

ZOS_GinaBruno
Exploration & Itemization
Achievements

• Removed a placeholder achievement for Enchanting that incorrectly referred to VR17 and VR18.

not fixed

"You can no longer resurrect an ally while you are hidden or invisible."

Incredible. Why? What is the point to this change? Name one benefit to this change, and why this could be considered an "improvement."

@ZOS_GinaBruno

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

"You can no longer resurrect an ally while you are hidden or invisible."

Incredible. Why? What is the point to this change? Name one benefit to this change, and why this could be considered an "improvement."

@ZOS_GinaBruno

They dont want people not in a zerg to res their friends. IC is all about zerging and ganking. They want people not in the zerg to have to return to base to res.

Yea, this is ridiculous. Of all the updates to PvP people are asking for, instead they throw this in as an "improvement." These dev's decisions are so bad its laughable.

SneaK wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

"You can no longer resurrect an ally while you are hidden or invisible."

Incredible. Why? What is the point to this change? Name one benefit to this change, and why this could be considered an "improvement."

@ZOS_GinaBruno

They dont want people not in a zerg to res their friends. IC is all about zerging and ganking. They want people not in the zerg to have to return to base to res.

Yea, this is ridiculous. Of all the updates to PvP people are asking for, instead they throw this in as an "improvement." These dev's decisions are so bad its laughable.

I havent spent a dime on this game since it went B2P. IC was a dumb idea with the whole looting stones and encouraging zergs. I told them numerous times and they insisted zergs wouldnt be rewarded that it would be more small scale battles. Of course they were naive or outright lying. Either way Im glad I didnt buy IC.

ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

"You can no longer resurrect an ally while you are hidden or invisible."

Incredible. Why? What is the point to this change? Name one benefit to this change, and why this could be considered an "improvement."

@ZOS_GinaBruno

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

"You can no longer resurrect an ally while you are hidden or invisible."

Incredible. Why? What is the point to this change? Name one benefit to this change, and why this could be considered an "improvement."

@ZOS_GinaBruno

They dont want people not in a zerg to res their friends. IC is all about zerging and ganking. They want people not in the zerg to have to return to base to res.

This is being blown out of proportion. While your character remained hidden while rezzing, the blue resurrection ray was most certainly visible and thus a dead giveaway anyways. I've killed many people by throwing an AoE on the other end of the blue ray and popping them from stealth while they were rezzing. Looting crates, chests, and heavy bags also brings you out of stealth. This is just being consistent with things that you can't do while hidden.

Just because its consistent doesn't mean they have to change it. There's already several ways to keep people from ressing someone including putting an AoE on the dead player as you mentioned (the Caltrops method is popular as is Revealing Flare). So there's really no need for them to change it. ... Besides, after you finish ressing you are popped out of stealth for a couple of seconds anyway. This change is unceccesary.

Ysne58 wrote: »

We don't know if anyone asked for this change or not. I do agree that there are other things that should be higher priority.

It's not even just about priorities. This change is flat out wrong.

Ethoir wrote: »

ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

"You can no longer resurrect an ally while you are hidden or invisible."

Incredible. Why? What is the point to this change? Name one benefit to this change, and why this could be considered an "improvement."

@ZOS_GinaBruno

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

"You can no longer resurrect an ally while you are hidden or invisible."

Incredible. Why? What is the point to this change? Name one benefit to this change, and why this could be considered an "improvement."

@ZOS_GinaBruno

They dont want people not in a zerg to res their friends. IC is all about zerging and ganking. They want people not in the zerg to have to return to base to res.

This is being blown out of proportion. While your character remained hidden while rezzing, the blue resurrection ray was most certainly visible and thus a dead giveaway anyways. I've killed many people by throwing an AoE on the other end of the blue ray and popping them from stealth while they were rezzing. Looting crates, chests, and heavy bags also brings you out of stealth. This is just being consistent with things that you can't do while hidden.

Just because its consistent doesn't mean they have to change it. There's already several ways to keep people from ressing someone including putting an AoE on the dead player as you mentioned (the Caltrops method is popular as is Revealing Flare). So there's really no need for them to change it. ... Besides, after you finish ressing you are popped out of stealth for a couple of seconds anyway. This change is unceccesary.

SneaK wrote: »

ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

"You can no longer resurrect an ally while you are hidden or invisible."

Incredible. Why? What is the point to this change? Name one benefit to this change, and why this could be considered an "improvement."

@ZOS_GinaBruno

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

"You can no longer resurrect an ally while you are hidden or invisible."

Incredible. Why? What is the point to this change? Name one benefit to this change, and why this could be considered an "improvement."

@ZOS_GinaBruno

They dont want people not in a zerg to res their friends. IC is all about zerging and ganking. They want people not in the zerg to have to return to base to res.

This is being blown out of proportion. While your character remained hidden while rezzing, the blue resurrection ray was most certainly visible and thus a dead giveaway anyways. I've killed many people by throwing an AoE on the other end of the blue ray and popping them from stealth while they were rezzing. Looting crates, chests, and heavy bags also brings you out of stealth. This is just being consistent with things that you can't do while hidden.

While it may not be a game changer, it's indicative of deaf ears. No one asked for it, it doesn't help in any way, why do it? The reasoning isn't there, they simply make changes as they wish without considering cause and effect. In this situation, cause is unknown, effect is going to cripple small groups even more.

And the ray isn't visible (on X1), the blue glow on the deceased is, but that's it.

Don't get me wrong, I've rabble roused about many other changes, but even after you all's responses I still don't see this as a real issue. Even as it is right now on live, if enemies are camping a body, the rezzer being hidden is not going to make a difference because those visual effects will still go off and give away the fact that someone is being rezzed -- doesn't matter if you're hidden, your cover is blown the second you start rezzing. Not to mention, the person being rezzed still has to restealth once they are alive again, further giving away the fact someone else is around. Because of how it is currently, I don't see this change as negatively affecting small group PvP (my favorite kind) in any significant way as you will still simply wait until the enemies move away before trying to rez.

In reponse to @Ethoir about consistency, that was just my guess about why they are changing this. Much of what ZOS does revolves around internal consistency of game mechanics and systems (remember the consolidation of buffs in the Major/Minor system and the revamping of provisioning with update 1.6? the casualties of those changes were much larger than this one by far). This change may have been on their to do list for months, but just now is getting implemented, who knows. They have to have consistent rules about things, such as what you can do while stealthed, in order to better balance and plan future development.