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Should Tamriel have BACON?
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chevalierknight✭✭✭chevalierknight wrote: »Not voting as we allready do ham is bacon
Ham is a completely different cut of meat to bacon, it's cured in a completely different ay, it's prepared in a different way, it's cooked in a different way and it's even eaten in a different way, ham is not bacon.
Not everyones from the US bacon is from the back and belly ham is from most of the pig0 -
chevalierknight✭✭✭newtinmpls wrote: »Tannakaobi wrote: »I just voted no as I thought I'd be the only one. Apparently not...
I love Bacon really. But not that rubbish Americans call bacon!
I'm curious as to the difference. As an American, I love thin sliced crispy bacon served still hot after parking briefly on paper towels to get the worst of the grease off (because frying bacon SHOULD render a pan of grease).
I've seen thicker sliced bacon, but its not crispy enough
Standard American bacon is cut from the belly, English bacon and most EU bacon is from the back, it's a very different flavour, American has a lot more fat in it and thus a more fatty taste so doesn't need to be smoked and cured whereas most English bacon will be either smoked or cured to give it flavour. In the UK we do also have a similar bacon to the American type which we call streaky bacon.
Canadian bacon on the left, American bacon/Streaky Bacon top right and English/Danish bacon bottom right.
Normal english bacon is from the sides of the belly as english bacon has both belly and back in the slice back bacon is called rashes. Rashes are not the normEdited by chevalierknight on September 18, 2015 11:24AM0 -
Belidos✭✭✭✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!chevalierknight wrote: »Ham i
Ham isn't bacon - and we don't have ham in the game. You probably meant to say pork?chevalierknight wrote: »Not voting as we allready do ham is bacon
Ham is bacon look it up not everyones from the US ham is uncooked bacon
Incorrect.
Bacon and ham are completely different cuts of meat, Ham always comes from the thigh or rump whereas bacon comes from everywhere but the thigh or the rump. Ham is either uncured or cured using sugar or honey, Bacon is cured using salt, brine or smoke. Ham can be eaten cooked but is almost always eaten uncooked, whereas Bacon should always be cooked. Also Bacon comes almost exclusively from a pig (yes there are some specialty products that call themselves bacon such as beef bacon and turkey bacon, but they're not really bacon) but the term Ham can be used for any meat cut from the thigh or buttocks of an animal
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Leandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ham is a very broad term that could include all sorts of things. Just look at the European ham culture:- Prosciutto Cotto: what Americans usually call ham, which is cooked & cured pork thigh
- Prosciutto Crudo: usually dried and sometimes smoked pork thigh (which is the only real ham, in my mind). In Spain this is called "Jamon". Try "Pata Negra" next time you are in a really good food store, preferably ripened for 18 month at least. In Germany, the smoked variant is more common, but the Italians and Spanish know that the best produce is just dried and very lightly salted, then left to ripen for 12+ months.
- Bresaola: which is dried beef sirloin. In Spain, this is known as "Lomo" and is made from pork sirloin.
- Buendner Fleisch (buendner meat): A swiss speciality, where the dried ham meat is further developed underground (sometimes burried), lending a softness to it that is incomparable and a very special taste
- Pancetta: What comes closest to the "bacon" concept. Its made from the fatty parts of the pork's belly meat, and cured.
- Danish Bacon: Already described above, not belly but back, still the very fatty parts.
Good thing we have American ham.
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I'm not from the US. I've never been to the US. Ham isn't bacon. Look it up.chevalierknight wrote: »Ham i
Ham isn't bacon - and we don't have ham in the game. You probably meant to say pork?chevalierknight wrote: »Not voting as we allready do ham is bacon
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Belidos✭✭✭✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!chevalierknight wrote: »newtinmpls wrote: »Tannakaobi wrote: »I just voted no as I thought I'd be the only one. Apparently not...
I love Bacon really. But not that rubbish Americans call bacon!
I'm curious as to the difference. As an American, I love thin sliced crispy bacon served still hot after parking briefly on paper towels to get the worst of the grease off (because frying bacon SHOULD render a pan of grease).
I've seen thicker sliced bacon, but its not crispy enough
Standard American bacon is cut from the belly, English bacon and most EU bacon is from the back, it's a very different flavour, American has a lot more fat in it and thus a more fatty taste so doesn't need to be smoked and cured whereas most English bacon will be either smoked or cured to give it flavour. In the UK we do also have a similar bacon to the American type which we call streaky bacon.
Canadian bacon on the left, American bacon/Streaky Bacon top right and English/Danish bacon bottom right.
Normal english bacon is from the sides of the belly as english bacon has both belly and back in the slice back bacon is called rashes. Rashes are not the norm
No, the standard bacon we have in the UK is from the back, English streaky bacon is from the belly. All bacons slices are rashers, the definition of rasher is "a thin slice of bacon". I've butchered far more pigs than I can count ever the years lol0 -
Ravici✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!Tbh, bacon should always be Danish, just as lamb should always come from New Zealand.
But then I grew up with those two being the standards. Things change but those two will always be tied in my mind hehe
Oh.. and Nutella! Just hand over the jar (full), and a spoon and there will be no problems!Rafe Harwood on heXbox European server0 -
Belidos✭✭✭✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!chevalierknight wrote: »
Not everyones from the US bacon is from the back and belly ham is from most of the pig
And nether am I, and it's the same everywhere in the world.
Ham is not from all over the pig, it is only from the thigh and buttocks, ham actually means buttocks (well it is actually that fleshy part just beneath the butt cheek above the meat of the back of the thigh). You will occasionally get a ham that comes from the sirloin but that's not a real ham. Bacon is most of the rest of the pig; primarily belly, back, sides and loin, almost never the thigh or buttock.Edited by Belidos on September 18, 2015 11:45AM0 -
HaldaAinur✭✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!Bacon is awesome. And seeing as we have pig/pork based dishes already in game, I see no reason as to why it shouldn't exist
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If you like New Zealand lamb, try Swiss lamb. You would be astonished how much better it is if you take it from animals grown naturally on a mountain pasture, trust me. I used to go for NZ over European lamb, but since I tried swiss, I'd never go back.Tbh, bacon should always be Danish, just as lamb should always come from New Zealand.
The only other lamb I like is the Manchester one, but that one is more for the ears and less for the mouth 0 -
Ravici✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!
If you like New Zealand lamb, try Swiss lamb. You would be astonished how much better it is if you take it from animals grown naturally on a mountain pasture, trust me. I used to go for NZ over European lamb, but since I tried swiss, I'd never go back.Tbh, bacon should always be Danish, just as lamb should always come from New Zealand.
The only other lamb I like is the Manchester one, but that one is more for the ears and less for the mouth
I might give that a look. They do have the best chocolate imo. I prefer Swiss chocky over Belgian.Rafe Harwood on heXbox European server0 -
Morbash✭✭✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!There's plenty of banekin in ESO. Just gotta know where to look.
Edited by Morbash on September 18, 2015 12:56PM"War doesn't build character; it reveals it."4 -
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✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!It's not about whether we do or don't have bacon it's just good that we can come together as a community and discuss these vital issues.GM - Malazan
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Zorrashi✭✭✭✭✭I'd rather have cookiesI hear nord and argonian bacon tastes great!
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Ffastyl✭✭✭✭✭I'd rather have cookiesI don't see why not have bacon, we do have pigs. But you gave the option for cookies.
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BabeestorGor✭✭✭✭I'd rather have cookies
Have you ever tried it? I know it's like the holy grail of food for some people (if you believe the internet), but while I know many wonderful, delicious types of meat, I don't like bacon at all.BabeestorGor wrote: »Any game that has a Roast Pig recipe clearly doesn't understand porcine cuisine.
As a vegetarian there was an obvious choice for me but bacon is one of the few meats that would tempt me to stop being a veggie.
Yes, I wasn't veggie for my 1st 40 years.
The only meats I miss at all are veal (which was why I became veggie, if I couldn't have veal I certainly wasn't bothered about giving up roast beef or steak which seem to be the most popular meats in the UK), bacon and liver.Babeester Gor is the Axe Goddess, the Implacable Anger, the Avenging Daughter and the Earth Guardian.
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✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!Bel_Shezzar wrote: »/lurk
Well now, I never saw we had a /lurk at the end here.
You are sneaky, Bel
Perhaps some sneaky bacon recipes with the Thieves Guild?
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Necrelios✭✭✭✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!I thought Tamriel already had Bacon? If not then... Oh no... what have I been eating this whole time?!
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✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!I thought Tamriel already had Bacon? If not then... Oh no... what have I been eating this whole time?!
Ask the Bosmer
Or maybe you shouldn't Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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Necrelios✭✭✭✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!
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✭I'd rather have cookiesHuh, I never knew that you other country types referred to Poloney as Canadian Bacon.Well i guess you learn something every day...I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!i have to say this post is to bias ffs.
stil got to get that bacon though0 -
WldKarde✭✭✭✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!Congrats on the necro, and for the /lurk @Xendyn
Inspired by a "not so nice" NPC calling Orcs "Pig children", I created my newest character (just for Orsinium) called "WldKarde"s Bacon"!
So here at last, is proof that there's BACON in Tamriel
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✭✭Yes! Who doesn't love Bacon!Well,we do have pigs,and we CAN kill em! So,why shouldnt there be bacon?0
