You get access to lots of locations..

I think the main reason the free roaming Shengen style world you want is restricted mainly if you go running around doing quests here there and everywhere you'd run out of quests to do in one place and give up travelling from one zone to another hunting for quests and XP, each Silver / Gold zone has exactly enough XP mission wise or near enough to give 1 vet levels worth of XP (1MXP ) so it makes it a bit linear and slightly less of a grind then just going where your friends are and running out of things to do in a singular place, once you try and build another character it makes it much much easier to just zip from zone to another and beast the missions out and get back up to speed / level.

The only thing I don't like about it is you should be able to do Pledges with people irregardless of factions, I thought i'd do a tank build but in another alliance to make it less repetitive but I'd never ever get to use it with friends etc, so AD story line Alllllllllllllllllll over again!

Not sure if Craglorn actually contains all alliances either, anyone comment on that? it's supposed to be a Neutral zone?

The worst mmo I have ever had the displeasure of owning had scaling, much like people are suggesting. The result was me running around GW2 max level, with my epic gear, hitting everything from a world boss to a bunny rabbit for 1 dmg with my plastic bat. Unfortunately for that game, as it would in any game, gear, skill and progression never mattered from level 1 to max at 80. No thanks to that. Honestly this thread seems for the most part like some people are having trouble accepting this mmo for what it is, not a single player TES game. That's fine, they're not everyone's cup of tea, but you can't have both in the same title. Scaling doesn't work, and you can't go to every zone at level 1. Even most sandbox mmo's have restrictions in the fact that you can go anywhere, but will be mauled over in certain zones due to higher level enemies.

I think that is a disadvantage you get when you make a world in a developed universe, there are a ton of expectations. I do like the ability to go where I want regardless of faction, if you look at a game like Vanguard where the races where split into factions but unless you went on to a hard core pvp server it only affected where you started. You also had the ability in that game to get yourself into content way above your level.

The three faction thing did seem unlikely but I know that the person who developed pvp came from DAoC which was really the first game to use three factions with the thought that it would lessen any one faction from getting a dominate hold on the pvp map. Of course the problem with that is people often take ideas and apply them in ways different from your intent. The only time I get aggravated with it was when I wanted to group with friends in other factions to do pve content.

As to the scaling ZOS better figure out how to make that work or all the DLC they have upcoming is going to fall flat. Imagine you get the game start a new character but can't enjoy the DLC content because of some arbitrary thing such as level.

Mitchblue wrote: »

. Oh well, too late now.

this is just about the long and short of it. too late.

Pallmor wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

How about all area's scale to your level. So i can quest with who ever whenever regardless of level. That would be great.

Whose level are they going to scale to, yours or the guy standing next to you?

The inverse should happen. Players should level scale to the zone.

Making an MMO where every single zone of the entire world is at your disposal to level in and get rewarded according to your level no matter where you are, that seems a bit hard stuff to code?
It would mean separate coding for every character level? im not a programmer, all i know is how to install and unistal stuff and thats about how far my computer knowledge goes lol.
it would be *** sweet though to say the least, but i think that kind of freedom in an MMO is a long ways off if you see how MMOs are done.

Gidorick wrote: »

Pallmor wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

How about all area's scale to your level. So i can quest with who ever whenever regardless of level. That would be great.

Whose level are they going to scale to, yours or the guy standing next to you?

The inverse should happen. Players should level scale to the zone.

Everything scales to you.

So say your level 30, everything is level 30.

If your friend beside you is level 40, everything is level 40 to him.

So everything scales to your individual client. With this, you could help a level 40 as a v14 go through his quest but not be one shotting everything, you would be against v14 mob's and still have to try. However the level 40 will be against level 40 mob's, so he will also have to try.

Now everyone in the game, can play with anyone. You can help people of any level and have a great experience doing quest's.

In my opinion this would be awesome, i could help any guild mate level up or learn to play.

Exp/Loot everything will scale to your level.

All you need to do to make it work is have % based damage. If the level 40 did 10% damage to said enemy to a level 40 monster, 10% will be taken from the v14 monster on the v14's enemy. This way having lower damage won't effect the outcome.

Qyrk wrote: »

After reading through the lines between OP's post, (let's all agree) that this game may not be for the OP.

Yes, because I don't like how they destroyed the Elder Scrolls legacy by making it a linear 'you go where we tell you' game, rather than the freedom of choice it has always been known for. You couldn't even play imperial unless you bought it flat out with real money. And to the defense of common logic, even in Skyrim, you could play any race with any faction. Didn't anyone notice this? You could be a Nord, fight for stormcloaks, be imperial and fight for stormcloaks, be a nord and fight for the imperials... This game completely eliminated that freedom of choice and allowed for it only if you paid extra money for it.

...and to shoot down the claims that it just isn't realistic to go into any zone, in WoW and a horde of other MMO's, you could go into ANY zone, you just couldn't fast travel or teleport there. Don't blame me for being disappointed in something I thought would preserve the culture of every other Elder Scrolls game.

Dru1076 wrote: »

No one can say this game isn't really OP's kind of game except the OP. Pretty arrogant, Imo, to even suggest that after reading one post from the guy.

Thank you, lord. They just assumed I wasn't fit to play this game, like how rude...

Half the reason anyone plays this game is they've always been itching to experience what it was like to free roam (just like in EVERY OTHER ESO TITLE) the entire world, and explore. To find out you can't explore another part of the world on your character is just disappointing. I'm sure many will agree that they were excited to see Highrock, Daggerfall, Summerset Isles... Especially because those haven't come out yet as single player titles (minus Daggerfall oldschool). It was a chance to delve into each of the zones we hadn't yet gotten to explore. We have seen Cyrodiil, and Skyrim, but not Highrock or any of the other

Dru1076 wrote: »

No one can say this game isn't really OP's kind of game except the OP. Pretty arrogant, Imo, to even suggest that after reading one post from the guy.

Thank you, lord.

Half the reason anyone plays this game is they've always been itching to experience what it was like to free roam (just like in EVERY OTHER ESO TITLE) the entire world, and explore. To find out you can't explore another part of the world on your character is just disappointing. I'm sure many will agree that they were excited to see Highrock, Daggerfall, Summerset Isles... Especially because those haven't come out yet as single player titles (minus Daggerfall oldschool). It was a chance to delve into each of the zones we hadn't yet gotten to explore. We have seen Cyrodiil, and Skyrim, but not Highrock or any of the other

newtinmpls wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

How about all area's scale to your level. So i can quest with who ever whenever regardless of level. That would be great.

How about Cyrodiil and/or IC?

That's what I do

See, Cyrodiil is nothing like it used to be either. There actually used to be towns there. Anyone remember Chorrol? Leyawin? Where did they go? Maybe if Cyrodiil was actually a zone... and not just a pvp venue.

Xilc wrote: »

Let's be honest... We all came here because we were expected to play another Elder Scrolls title that let you freely explore the world, and do what you want, not set you on a railroad and point you in one specific direction only to discourage you from trying to go somewhere.

I am sad to hear that you are having such a hard and frustrating time.

No, this game is not what I expected. But to be honest - I knew coming in that no MMOPRG could do for me what the ES universe had been able to as a single player game. I can't leave things on the floor and come back for them. I can't repair my own armor or design my own spells (I'm a die-hard Morrowinder - never cared for Oblivion or Skyrim).

That being said, my ultimate reason for coming here was because I like pen-and-paper roleplay and a chunk of my gaming group moved cross country. We tried - but skype just doesn't cut it for tabletop gaming. We were all pretty crazy about various versions of ES, so we decided to try ESO.

There is less of a lot of things I/we wanted. Some were/are being (sometimes incrementally) repaired, some appear to be inherent in the coding of the game (like I think shared banking among characters is insane - but that's how MMOs work).

So it's a matter of choosing my attitude.

There are a LOT of ways I think this game could be better.... but.... it's beautiful. I have 8 characters per account (yeah I run two subbed accounts - altaholic big time). I can craft for friends. I can get on skype or teamspeak and game and fight with friends. Some of the abilities synergize - that is soooo coool!

I still have issues. Cliff races and Nix hounds are all wrong. Ashlanders should be wearing chitin armor and there should be no skin showing. and so on.....

But mostly, I like it. Mostly I like the people. Yes there are jerks, but there is also the guy who gave me four recipies for no particular reason, and the other guy who crafted me a barbaric helm for my "goblin" character and didn't charge me anything.

Xilc wrote: »

Here? The possibilities are limited, unless you're willing to throw down some cold hard cash, and even that won't let you go to Summerset if you're Daggerfall/Ebonheart until you max out. I'm just saying, this MMO can't possibly compete with others that allow you to roam around freely if you have to pay extra cash, and can't even do the same.

True, but given the choice I'll take some dark semi-liniar quests (since I dont' do them in order, I presume anyone can skip around like me if they want to) and being able to play with vet 15 friends at lvl 25 in cyrodiil and IC in a fairly ES universe than perfect "freedom". to wander in some other world.

Warts and all, I am enjoying ESO

I hope that you are too ... at least a little.

Xilc wrote: »

Seriously, why would the devs trash the sandbox world idea for this railway feeling questline? At least in Skyrim and Oblivion you could travel wherever you wanted. You can't even travel to The Rift as a certain faction, like how stupid is this? This game feels incredibly confined, and heavily linear. It's nothing like any other elder scrolls title. Doesn't anyone else miss the days where you could play and go wherever you wanted, not where they allowed you until 'insert level here'?

Let's be honest... We all came here because we were expected to play another Elder Scrolls title that let you freely explore the world, and do what you want, not set you on a railroad and point you in one specific direction only to discourage you from trying to go somewhere. I'll admit it. I was excited to explore Daggerfall, Highrock, Summerset Isles... All of the places you couldn't visit before because they hadn't yet launched a game for it as they had with Oblivion (Cyrodiil), Skyrim, or Morrowind. That's why many of us were excited for this game.... Only to be disappointed because we can't even roam over into the Rift or to Summerset if we are the wrong faction.

In closing, even in Skyrim, you could cross factions from the very beginning of the game (without having to buy it flat out with imperial edition). You could be a Nord and betray your own race and join the Imperials, or you could be an Imperial and join the Stormcloaks. The possibilities are endless. Here? The possibilities are limited, unless you're willing to throw down some cold hard cash, and even that won't let you go to Summerset if you're Daggerfall/Ebonheart until you max out. I'm just saying, this MMO can't possibly compete with others that allow you to roam around freely if you have to pay extra cash, and can't even do the same.

well said friend, i do agree and feel your grief.
i came here expecting morrowind and a touch of oblivion and skyrim but ...

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

there should never have been classes
there should never have been alliances

Xilc wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Xilc wrote: »

Seriously, why would the devs trash the sandbox world idea for this railway feeling questline? At least in Skyrim and Oblivion you could travel wherever you wanted. You can't even travel to The Rift as a certain faction, like how stupid is this? This game feels incredibly confined, and heavily linear. It's nothing like any other elder scrolls title. Doesn't anyone else miss the days where you could play and go wherever you wanted, not where they allowed you until 'insert level here'?

Let's be honest... We all came here because we were expected to play another Elder Scrolls title that let you freely explore the world, and do what you want, not set you on a railroad and point you in one specific direction only to discourage you from trying to go somewhere. I'll admit it. I was excited to explore Daggerfall, Highrock, Summerset Isles... All of the places you couldn't visit before because they hadn't yet launched a game for it as they had with Oblivion (Cyrodiil), Skyrim, or Morrowind. That's why many of us were excited for this game.... Only to be disappointed because we can't even roam over into the Rift or to Summerset if we are the wrong faction.

In closing, even in Skyrim, you could cross factions from the very beginning of the game (without having to buy it flat out with imperial edition). You could be a Nord and betray your own race and join the Imperials, or you could be an Imperial and join the Stormcloaks. The possibilities are endless. Here? The possibilities are limited, unless you're willing to throw down some cold hard cash, and even that won't let you go to Summerset if you're Daggerfall/Ebonheart until you max out. I'm just saying, this MMO can't possibly compete with others that allow you to roam around freely if you have to pay extra cash, and can't even do the same.

well said friend, i do agree and feel your grief.
i came here expecting morrowind and a touch of oblivion and skyrim but ...

In oblivion to close a gate you had to go in and explore this badass world that looked like hell. Now? You just press 'E' to close it instantly. It just feels too mechanical.

That annoys me so much. Which is also why I love veteran City of Ash so much. You actually do go through a gate and have to fight your way to a sigil stone. And it's not a short instance either, you have to travel through a lot. But it really is just that one instance...