Maintenance for the week of December 22:
• NA megaservers for maintenance – December 22, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 8:00AM EST (13:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for maintenance – December 22, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 8:00AM EST (13:00 UTC)
• NA megaservers for maintenance – December 22, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 8:00AM EST (13:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for maintenance – December 22, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 8:00AM EST (13:00 UTC)
Todays Nerf, Your Feelings?
-
Tholian1✭✭✭✭✭
✭So how much testing of these nerfs happened in PvE only zones and not in IC? I am getting the feeling that all of the changes and adjustments were meant to accommodate playing in IC.
Any thoughts on this?PS4 Pro NA1 -
failkiwib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭So how much testing of these nerfs happened in PvE only zones and not in IC? I am getting the feeling that all of the changes and adjustments were meant to accommodate playing in IC.
Any thoughts on this?
The nerfs hit everything, not just IC and Cyrodiil ^^0 -
Tholian1✭✭✭✭✭
✭failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »
Yes I realize that. But can't help but wonder if the nerfs were mostly designed and tested for IC, without much thought on the impact it would have everywhere else.Edited by Tholian1 on September 2, 2015 8:29PMPS4 Pro NA4 -
failkiwib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes I realize that. But can't help but wonder if the nerfs were mostly designed and tested for IC, without much thought on the impact it would have everywhere else.
It would surprise me, if they failed at that or didn't consider testing it at all. They are earning their living on this.
With these new changes they kinda forced the more engaged parts of the community to pay real life money and spend much more time grinding for new armors, to be able to feel "OP" again.
Had they only created new content for higher vet ranks, then all the players that are low levels and still questing would not have any reason to buy Imperial City and spend time changing their builds to be able to solo quest. Now they got a nice little dungeon that provides a skillpoint, new area to explore and get skyshards from, new items to grind for.1 -
I did a few things today I never thought I would do.
First I deleted the game from my PS4. I just plain didn't like it. Probably because I'm basically a PC person but I
just didn't care for it. $20 down the drain. I'm replacing it with you-know-what 14.
I have 3 accounts, two are subbed and the third one is for storage. I like trying different builds, etc. I canceled the
two subs today. They are still good to the end of October they just won't renew. We'll see how things go.
I've been with the game since it's release in April 2014. I bought the Collectors Edition and had a ball playing. They
did a lot of things back then to improve the game so no complaints there. Then they introduced the justice system
which I didn't like. People said if you played the Elder Scrolls games you should have expected it. I haven't heard
anyone say that about IC. And no I haven't been there and have no intention of going and I've played every Elder
Scrolls game starting with Arena in fact I still have the original floppies for it.
What I'm saying is this isn't the game I originally bought. It was fun then but now with the all the nerfs and how they
seem to be catering to the higher levels I'm going to wait and see what happens.9 -
apostate9✭✭✭✭✭The Uninvited wrote: »How do I feel about it? I'm utterly devastated. I'm trying to think of a reason why I should bother getting out of bed tomorrow. It feels as though my entire world has been flipped upside down. My self esteem is at an all time low. I'm wearing a neck brace just to hold my head up. Making any kind of eye contact with other humans just results in an endless flood of tears that keep streaming down my face like water down a waterfall at the end of the Yukon river. Depression has well and truly set in, my body is in a state of shock - I'm using every last ounce of strength I have to sit here and type this as all I want to do is curl up into the foetal position and cry myself to sleep.
Speaking of sleep - I doubt I'll be getting any of that in the near future. My heart is racing like an infant on steroids that's just completed a triathlon. Even if they fix this, the damage has been done. I doubt I will ever psychologically recover from the emotional, physical and mental torture this patch has put me through.
Admittedly, I haven't played it yet - I'm on the PS4 and it hasn't rolled out yet. I'm just burned out from all the threads the PC master class have created because of this patch. It's kind of humorous when you think about it.
You just got an awesome from a PC player.
2 PC players. The ocean of tears in this forum is too wide to swim across, but you can sail it in class, aboard the USS Hilarious.1 -
Blade_07✭✭✭✭LMAO....noticed a little something that I have highlighted in red and laughed my self silly. You guys buy that?
“Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”3 -
Blade_07✭✭✭✭
LOL! ^^
“Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”0 -
Scyantific✭✭✭✭✭
✭YO, MORONS:
NIRNHONED WAS NOT NERFED. IT WAS NEVER WORKING AS INTENDED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE ONE THING THAT ZOS FIXES IN THIS DUMB PATCH AND YOU GUYS ARE COMPLAINING OUT THE WAZOO ABOUT IT.
0 -
NDwarf✭✭✭Scyantific wrote: »YO, MORONS:
NIRNHONED WAS NOT NERFED. IT WAS NEVER WORKING AS INTENDED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE ONE THING THAT ZOS FIXES IN THIS DUMB PATCH AND YOU GUYS ARE COMPLAINING OUT THE WAZOO ABOUT IT.
The guy in all caps calling everyone a moron posting memes from 1999.1 -
Spottswoode✭✭✭✭✭LMAO....noticed a little something that I have highlighted in red and laughed my self silly. You guys buy that?
No. But I might if they actually fix things.Proud Player of The Elder Bank Screen Online.
My khajiit loves his moon sugar.
Steam Profile
Libertas est periculosum. Liberum cogitandi est haeresis. Ergo, et ego terroristis.
Current main PC build:
i7 3770 (Not overclocking currently.)
MSI Gaming X GTX 1070
32gb RAM
Laptop:
i7-7700HQ
GTX 1060
16gb RAM
Secondary build:
i3 2330
GTX 660
8gb RAM0 -
Inactive Account✭✭✭✭Spottswoode wrote: »
TBH, I am disenchanted with ZOS right now,so take out of this what you will...
" Well, it has not made a lick of difference over the last year, so I'd have to say no'.
They only listen to and take feed back from, a select group of people in a small select group of guilds.Edited by Inactive Account on September 2, 2015 11:09PM4 -
Avenias✭✭✭✭nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »Spottswoode wrote: »
TBH, I am disenchanted with ZOS right now,so take out of this what you will...
" Well, it has not made a lick of difference over the last year, so I'd have to say no'.
They only listen to and take feed back from, a select group of people in a small select group of guilds.
N ur evidence?Edited by Avenias on September 2, 2015 11:50PM0 -
mrskinskull✭✭✭✭Pangnirtung wrote: »It's the tail wagging the dog. I PVE and the nerfs seem to be directly related to PVP.
Both of my fun stamina based NB and DK are now gimped because of the update.
I really hate this pattern in PvP and pve joined games. Enjoy doing dungeons with your nerf weapons because some one somewhere whined about this ability or that.1 -
Sensesfail13✭✭✭✭To all of the console guys trolling the forum all I have is a quote from zenimax.
"Soon. tm"Wisherr, Dragonknight, Haderus, NA Server.
Wisher of Naught, Nightblade, Haderus, NA Server.
Guild officer: Abandoned Legion0 -
Arato✭✭✭✭✭
✭You can talk about Nirnhoned being "fixed" but it was overly done to the point where the trait is not worth its rarity or price to use. It should increase your overall spell resist just not by 24% a piece. More like 5% a piece.
I have 3 pieces of nirnhoned (I was a PVE tank, so yeah I was going to use it), prior, yes, it was way too good, it'd take my spell resist from 23856 to almost 40000. Now it takes it from 23856 to 24737, less than 1000 increase, less than 5%, for over 30,000 gold in nirncrux. Not worth it.
If it were 1% for common, 2% for green, 3% for blue, 4% for purple and 5% for yellows total spell resist, it'd be reasonable and might be worth the cost. It'd raise spell resist from 23856 to 27195 in my case.
MIGHT be worth it.
Currently? Nope, never making another nircrux piece of armor again.6 -
Cavedog✭✭✭✭✭
✭You can talk about Nirnhoned being "fixed" but it was overly done to the point where the trait is not worth its rarity or price to use. It should increase your overall spell resist just not by 24% a piece. More like 5% a piece.
I have 3 pieces of nirnhoned (I was a PVE tank, so yeah I was going to use it), prior, yes, it was way too good, it'd take my spell resist from 23856 to almost 40000. Now it takes it from 23856 to 24737, less than 1000 increase, less than 5%, for over 30,000 gold in nirncrux. Not worth it.
If it were 1% for common, 2% for green, 3% for blue, 4% for purple and 5% for yellows total spell resist, it'd be reasonable and might be worth the cost. It'd raise spell resist from 23856 to 27195 in my case.
MIGHT be worth it.
Currently? Nope, never making another nircrux piece of armor again.
I couldn't agree more Arato.1 -
Corrupted_Soul✭✭✭Scyantific wrote: »YO, MORONS:
NIRNHONED WAS NOT NERFED. IT WAS NEVER WORKING AS INTENDED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE ONE THING THAT ZOS FIXES IN THIS DUMB PATCH AND YOU GUYS ARE COMPLAINING OUT THE WAZOO ABOUT IT.Scyantific wrote: »YO, MORONS:
NIRNHONED WAS NOT NERFED. IT WAS NEVER WORKING AS INTENDED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE ONE THING THAT ZOS FIXES IN THIS DUMB PATCH AND YOU GUYS ARE COMPLAINING OUT THE WAZOO ABOUT IT.
The guy in all caps calling everyone a moron posting memes from 1999.
Edited by Corrupted_Soul on September 3, 2015 1:00AMCorrupted_Soul - V16 DK - PS4 NA3 -
Blade_07✭✭✭✭nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »Spottswoode wrote: »
TBH, I am disenchanted with ZOS right now,so take out of this what you will...
" Well, it has not made a lick of difference over the last year, so I'd have to say no'.
They only listen to and take feed back from, a select group of people in a small select group of guilds.
N ur evidence?
Well, a couple BIG things somewhat make it look that way actually. Now I'm not saying that its fact but it certainly appears to be that way is all.
Beta testing: What good did the feed back from that do?
PTS: And I ask again, what good did the feed back from that do?
We all know the answers to these questions so the rumor tends to look plausible.
Edited by Blade_07 on September 3, 2015 1:34AM“Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”2 -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I know for sure that streamers end up with inside info on upcoming changes and also have input directly to the developers.5 -
Inactive Account✭✭✭✭nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »Spottswoode wrote: »
TBH, I am disenchanted with ZOS right now,so take out of this what you will...
" Well, it has not made a lick of difference over the last year, so I'd have to say no'.
They only listen to and take feed back from, a select group of people in a small select group of guilds.
N ur evidence?
My evidence....?
Uhmmm, have you logged in since the patch?
Have you not read the posts on many of the different topics in these forums, hell even the PvP crowd is not convinced of the changes,...?
75% - 85% against what has happened. (Even with the dozen + threads that have been removed, because they are to embarrassing for Zos).
The Only feedback that is even rarely acknowledged on the forums deals with cosmetic items... ie:" I want a purple horse ".
Not to forget the " I would buy this item from the crown store" posts.
Has Zos ever, and I mean EVER replied to any game mechanic related post inquirer?
From what I have seen.... NOEdited by Inactive Account on September 3, 2015 3:37AM1 -
rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The problem with the "nirnhorned fix" was that now there is no way to mitigate the ridiculous damage magicka does.
ZOS operates from a perspective of the nearly blind. They can only focus on one thing and either ignore or are oblivious to things that are interconnected.
Yes nirnhorned was broken, no one denies it. But with it "fixed" now magicka builds are broken. Worst part of it all the people that will lie about it.1 -
Wing✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »I know for sure that streamers end up with inside info on upcoming changes and also have input directly to the developers.
this, and yes almost all "balance" changes were done because of IC, PvE takes priority balance over PvE for obvious reasons despite the fact that its a very small part of the game.ESO player since beta.
previously full time subscriber, beta-2024, now off and on, game got too disappointing.
PC NA
( ^_^ )
You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods You shall be as gods -XenogearsDK one trick0 -
Messy1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sooooo, I have a stam sorc, a hybrid stam magickal templar, a stam DK, oh and a stam tank Sorc . . . Should I just convert these all to magical builds?0 -
DirtYoneSoul ShrivenJust want to add some oil to the fire and share my experience!
First of all - I was making stamina(++)/magica(+) regeneration build (with the balance between the two), as at the unexpected moments (mostly lag/FPS drop) I was able to block and regenerate, while losing my DPS count (1h weapon + blocking time).
After testing the newest Patch I came to conclusion, that either (1) while I was sleeping/working, I lost part of my brain which was responsible for my finger movement, or (2) Zenimax destroyed my DK stamina regen Tank build.
NB! Obviously I need to say huge thanks to Zenimax for respec'ing my skill line (so I need to redo it again to test my previous build), and that I still needed to respec it completely (including character skill points) one more time to redo my character to a 2-Handed melee weapon and Health based build.
P.s. I'll be kind enough to give Zenimax one more tip for future updates: Disable Health and Magica regen while blocking also, we obviously don't wan't a discrimination, right?
SHAME *ding* *ding*...2 -
I have read it, that why I included it my post. You thought I made it up?
There is more to these tears than that and you know it.
Its its the forever dodge rolling, block casting, I stand here holding block = imatank's feeling this.
Others consider how to change their playstyle to suit, or perhaps they don't have to because you know.. they're were just not bad in the first place.
^ This
0 -
Love the stamina Buffs!
Stamina class skills cost lowered by 20%!
Only thing nerfed or better yet Fixed is the perma Block/dodge rolling, wich i never did anyway.
For tanking, every tank willing to find a new way to do it, youll find a way to compensate.
Thanks to zos for fixing this perma block and perma dodge rolling in Pvp.
Sincerely, a happy Kajiit Stamina Nightblade!!1
