Dracane wrote: »

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

All these posts comparing Sorceror Bolt Escape to Nightblade Cloak, and thus cloak needs same nerf. Does that mean Nightblades get a big spammable class shield to fall back on too?

Nightblades can spam 2 other shields. With the reduced damage in pvp, it's easier control your health bar and to get strong healing ward. And Harness Magicka to negate magic and suck Magicka.

Magicka Nightblades with 2 shields and cloak are as unkillable as any other shield stacker.

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

All these posts comparing Sorceror Bolt Escape to Nightblade Cloak, and thus cloak needs same nerf. Does that mean Nightblades get a big spammable class shield to fall back on too?

Nightblades can spam 2 other shields. With the reduced damage in pvp, it's easier control your health bar and to get strong healing ward. And Harness Magicka to negate magic and suck Magicka.

Magicka Nightblades with 2 shields and cloak are as unkillable as any other shield stacker.

No, Nightblades should get a shield that mitigates both stamina and magicka damage to hide the healing ward behind. Only fair.

Dracane wrote: »

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

All these posts comparing Sorceror Bolt Escape to Nightblade Cloak, and thus cloak needs same nerf. Does that mean Nightblades get a big spammable class shield to fall back on too?

Nightblades can spam 2 other shields. With the reduced damage in pvp, it's easier control your health bar and to get strong healing ward. And Harness Magicka to negate magic and suck Magicka.

Magicka Nightblades with 2 shields and cloak are as unkillable as any other shield stacker.

No, Nightblades should get a shield that mitigates both stamina and magicka damage to hide the healing ward behind. Only fair.

How is it fair ?

Master_Kas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Brace yourselfs nightblades. Everyone crying about cloak will screw it up for all nightblades.

Wether you're a magicka nb permacloaking or a stamblade cloaking occasionally.

The whine has started "wää why can they do that and I can not?"

Let's dumb down the game make every class identical. That way noone can cry about unbalanced stuff.

But oh wait, they will still because so many people just suck and blame it on "waaa he has OP skill that's why he wins"

People hardly played on PTS outside imperial city, noone knows what the meta will be there yet.

What's most funny is all who play's sorc and I've never seen touched a nightblade are here writing about how its OP.

Nightblades are by far the easiest class for me to kill on my sorc, got plenty of vids where I obliterate most nightblades (except the good ones) but the good ones will still kick your ass even if you "nerf op cloak" which can be countered by skills, pots.

/rant over

But you're nothing better than those that you accuse of crying you always pretend that Nightblade is the weakest class and Sorcerer the strongest.

LOL I never ONCE said nightblade is weak. Find me that post and I'll give you an apology

What I have been claiming is that cloak CAN be made useless, which it can. Thats not an opinion, thats a fact. I do it everytime on my sorcerer. Check my clips if you don't believe. Even magicka nightblades.

I also stated multiple times stamblade in 1.6 are the top dogs along side magicka sorcs.

I played way more on my nightblade than on my sorc, still I survive way easier on my sorc. Even vs multiple opponents.

Denying that sorcerer is the most OP class (magicka sorc that is) along side stamblades in 1.6 is just madness.

But then again I don't use nirnhoned like most nightblades seems to run these days I've used max 2 nirnhoned but I dumped that since I prefer skirmisher 5x , bloodspawn and shadow walker.

EDIT: people who know me know I want buffs to templars and dragonknights, since sorc and nightblade are king in the game (in solo play)

Check my signature for example #buffDK's have been there since I signed up on this forums. Wouldn't it be "buff nightblades" if I thought NB was the weakest? Stop pulling lies out. I've never said Nightblade is the weakest class. Sure it wasn't a dream?

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

All these posts comparing Sorceror Bolt Escape to Nightblade Cloak, and thus cloak needs same nerf. Does that mean Nightblades get a big spammable class shield to fall back on too?

Nightblades can spam 2 other shields. With the reduced damage in pvp, it's easier control your health bar and to get strong healing ward. And Harness Magicka to negate magic and suck Magicka.

Magicka Nightblades with 2 shields and cloak are as unkillable as any other shield stacker.

No, Nightblades should get a shield that mitigates both stamina and magicka damage to hide the healing ward behind. Only fair.

How is it fair ?

Because cloak is a nightblade's only defensive class skill, (which I might add not only doesn't work a lot of the time, but has several counters). Sorcerors have BE AND hardened ward (no counters unless you're lucky to gap close BE, but you have to avoid the stun and preferably be facing the same direction they went in). Nerf cloak like BE and what other defensive skill have Nightblades got? What is fair about Nightblades getting a nerf to their only defensive skill?

But you've heard all this already and choose to ignore it all on your crusade to nerf Nightblades. I'll stop feeding you now.

Master_Kas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Brace yourselfs nightblades. Everyone crying about cloak will screw it up for all nightblades.

Wether you're a magicka nb permacloaking or a stamblade cloaking occasionally.

The whine has started "wää why can they do that and I can not?"

Let's dumb down the game make every class identical. That way noone can cry about unbalanced stuff.

But oh wait, they will still because so many people just suck and blame it on "waaa he has OP skill that's why he wins"

People hardly played on PTS outside imperial city, noone knows what the meta will be there yet.

What's most funny is all who play's sorc and I've never seen touched a nightblade are here writing about how its OP.

Nightblades are by far the easiest class for me to kill on my sorc, got plenty of vids where I obliterate most nightblades (except the good ones) but the good ones will still kick your ass even if you "nerf op cloak" which can be countered by skills, pots.

/rant over

But you're nothing better than those that you accuse of crying you always pretend that Nightblade is the weakest class and Sorcerer the strongest.

LOL I never ONCE said nightblade is weak. Find me that post and I'll give you an apology

What I have been claiming is that cloak CAN be made useless, which it can. Thats not an opinion, thats a fact. I do it everytime on my sorcerer. Check my clips if you don't believe. Even magicka nightblades.

I also stated multiple times stamblade in 1.6 are the top dogs along side magicka sorcs.

I played way more on my nightblade than on my sorc, still I survive way easier on my sorc. Even vs multiple opponents.

Denying that sorcerer is the most OP class (magicka sorc that is) along side stamblades in 1.6 is just madness.

But then again I don't use nirnhoned like most nightblades seems to run these days I've used max 2 nirnhoned but I dumped that since I prefer skirmisher 5x , bloodspawn and shadow walker.

EDIT: people who know me know I want buffs to templars and dragonknights, since sorc and nightblade are king in the game (in solo play)

Check my signature for example #buffDK's have been there since I signed up on this forums. Wouldn't it be "buff nightblades" if I thought NB was the weakest? Stop pulling lies out. I've never said Nightblade is the weakest class. Sure it wasn't a dream?

And I never once claimed you said Nightblades are weak. Find me this post and I will instantly block you, because I don't wanna face the truth ( joke )
But everytime I read what you write me or here, it seems to me that you want to tell me, Nightblades are nothing and Sorcerers everything.

Here you have it check your post and don't edit it now:

Dracane wrote: »
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But you're nothing better than those that you accuse of crying you always pretend that Nightblade is the weakest class and Sorcerer the strongest.

The bolded part. But like I've stated, NBs are FOTM along side sorcs. There's no denying it.

Edit: Nightblades main defense skill is cloak. If you take that away they don't have a big ass shield to hide behind. If you nerf that we need something similar or a good heal (no funnel/sap are not good heals)

Dracane wrote: »

@Master_Kas
And I don't even care for Sorcerers at the moment. People try taunting me with Bolt Escape and what not. But what does Sorcerer even has to do with this ? A comparison between bolt escape and cloak seems to be popular, but that doesn't help.

My problem is, that cloak makes Nightblades kings in IC and pvp in general.
I'm worried about the game balance. You and your Nightblade friends try to tell us, cloak is fine. But it's definately not fine and the 100 threads complaining about Nightblade and cloak, coming as soon as this goes online will confirm what I'm saying.

Master_Kas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

@Master_Kas
And I don't even care for Sorcerers at the moment. People try taunting me with Bolt Escape and what not. But what does Sorcerer even has to do with this ? A comparison between bolt escape and cloak seems to be popular, but that doesn't help.

My problem is, that cloak makes Nightblades kings in IC and pvp in general.
I'm worried about the game balance. You and your Nightblade friends try to tell us, cloak is fine. But it's definately not fine and the 100 threads complaining about Nightblade and cloak, coming as soon as this goes online will confirm what I'm saying.

I'm complaining mostly since I'm maining a stamina nightblade, which cannot spam cloak like a magicka nightblade can.

But even magicka nightblades they don't have any class damage shield like sorcs, not even small one like dk's/templars have. Forced to use healingward if they want a damage shield, and harness which only absorbs magick damage.

I told you, you can counter cloak pretty easily if you know what you're doing and I'm can happily show it to you in the PTS.

No doubt cloak will get nerfed thanks to all the forumcries. But after that, people will still cry its OP when they get their asses handed to them by a skilled nightblade. Just like people cry about bolt escape.

I honestly don't care to much. Just wierd seing you working so hard on the forums to get cloak nerfed. While forgetting we have no class damage shield to rely on if that happens. Hopefully ZOS realizes this too

Cloak can be used as an guaranteed escape. You and me had a private conversation about it. Why do you say otherwise once again ? Tell the people here what you told me about cloak. Come, do it, be honest.

Or shall I send you my... special diary ? You know what I'm talking about. Certain diary pages about you

Yeah it can be used as a guaranteed escape. If the person you fighting don't use ANY counter towards it (this includes: curse, streak, detectpots (yes even after nerf) radiant magelight, any aoe, piercing mark if you are a nightblade) .

When I run radiant magelight on my bars, I see all nightblades (even stam ones) desperatly trying to cloak, wasting their magicka, trying to postpone the inevteble.

What I told you was that magicka nbs can have higher burst than stamina nbs if played/geared properly, which is why I linked those videos to you. Wait let me find it

Dracane wrote: »

Yep, you pretend pretending is not saying.

If built for sustain ofcourse a magicka nightblade can spam cloak for a very very long time. Just like a magicka sorc built for sustain can spam hardened ward over and over again

Dracane wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

@Master_Kas
And I don't even care for Sorcerers at the moment. People try taunting me with Bolt Escape and what not. But what does Sorcerer even has to do with this ? A comparison between bolt escape and cloak seems to be popular, but that doesn't help.

My problem is, that cloak makes Nightblades kings in IC and pvp in general.
I'm worried about the game balance. You and your Nightblade friends try to tell us, cloak is fine. But it's definately not fine and the 100 threads complaining about Nightblade and cloak, coming as soon as this goes online will confirm what I'm saying.

I'm complaining mostly since I'm maining a stamina nightblade, which cannot spam cloak like a magicka nightblade can.

But even magicka nightblades they don't have any class damage shield like sorcs, not even small one like dk's/templars have. Forced to use healingward if they want a damage shield, and harness which only absorbs magick damage.

I told you, you can counter cloak pretty easily if you know what you're doing and I'm can happily show it to you in the PTS.

No doubt cloak will get nerfed thanks to all the forumcries. But after that, people will still cry its OP when they get their asses handed to them by a skilled nightblade. Just like people cry about bolt escape.

I honestly don't care to much. Just wierd seing you working so hard on the forums to get cloak nerfed. While forgetting we have no class damage shield to rely on if that happens. Hopefully ZOS realizes this too

Cloak can be used as an guaranteed escape. You and me had a private conversation about it. Why do you say otherwise once again ? Tell the people here what you told me about cloak. Come, do it, be honest.

Or shall I send you my... special diary ? You know what I'm talking about. Certain diary pages about you

Yeah it can be used as a guaranteed escape. If the person you fighting don't use ANY counter towards it (this includes: curse, streak, detectpots (yes even after nerf) radiant magelight, any aoe, piercing mark if you are a nightblade) .

When I run radiant magelight on my bars, I see all nightblades (even stam ones) desperatly trying to cloak, wasting their magicka, trying to postpone the inevteble.

What I told you was that magicka nbs can have higher burst than stamina nbs if played/geared properly, which is why I linked those videos to you. Wait let me find it

Don't worry, I remember your videos.

And you just ignore the diary part QQ