Can we now have an actual dmg reduction please Zos? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert
Can we now have an actual dmg reduction please Zos? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert
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I had a bow heavy attack take me out last night while standing on top of a resource tower.
It hit for 15k+ ...
According to my combat log, that was just one single hit.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »So it's ok for skills and spells to hit 10K+ but heavy attacks that hit over 10K every one looses there minds.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »So it's ok for skills and spells to hit 10K+ but heavy attacks that hit over 10K every one looses there minds.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »So it's ok for skills and spells to hit 10K+ but heavy attacks that hit over 10K every one looses there minds.
If stealth is involved, yes.
Every community I have seen since I started mmoing in 97' complains about stealth. Those who don't enjoy that playstyle complain it's not fair and or cheap. Sheeple will be sheeple /shrug
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »So it's ok for skills and spells to hit 10K+ but heavy attacks that hit over 10K every one looses there minds.
If stealth is involved, yes.
Every community I have seen since I started mmoing in 97' complains about stealth. Those who don't enjoy that playstyle complain it's not fair and or cheap. Sheeple will be sheeple /shrug
But that's the thing if he was able to sneak up on a another living players to let off a fully charge heavy attack with a 2H weapon in the middle of a heavy PvE npc and heavy PvP area then he deserves to get a 10K hit like so many things have to go right to do it.
He tried this garbage with me on live and I bashed his face in.
If people are hitting this hard on PTS then it is possible that the CP Heavy Attack passive is additive with the Battle Spirit buff instead of multiplicative with it.
I'll have to do some testing to determine the problem but it wouldn't surprise me if ZoS missed a few in their sweep.
He tried this garbage with me on live and I bashed his face in.
If people are hitting this hard on PTS then it is possible that the CP Heavy Attack passive is additive with the Battle Spirit buff instead of multiplicative with it.
I'll have to do some testing to determine the problem but it wouldn't surprise me if ZoS missed a few in their sweep.
I don't see how, as I am getting a near 50% reduction versus what I can do on live. Which is odd since it should just be 30%
He tried this garbage with me on live and I bashed his face in.
If people are hitting this hard on PTS then it is possible that the CP Heavy Attack passive is additive with the Battle Spirit buff instead of multiplicative with it.
I'll have to do some testing to determine the problem but it wouldn't surprise me if ZoS missed a few in their sweep.
I don't see how, as I am getting a near 50% reduction versus what I can do on live. Which is odd since it should just be 30%
Well with Heavy attacks they benefit from two sets of damage increases ..both Mighty and "Weapon Expert" Passive. It is possible that players with a ton of champion points are benefiting from this but I know from watching Kerviz's stream recently that he only has ~147 CPs so maybe only one of those two passives is bugged or possibly only the "Blade Expert" passive.
On PTS I think they give you 300 points though correct? (I haven't rolled a template char yet).
He tried this garbage with me on live and I bashed his face in.
If people are hitting this hard on PTS then it is possible that the CP Heavy Attack passive is additive with the Battle Spirit buff instead of multiplicative with it.
I'll have to do some testing to determine the problem but it wouldn't surprise me if ZoS missed a few in their sweep.
I don't see how, as I am getting a near 50% reduction versus what I can do on live. Which is odd since it should just be 30%
Well with Heavy attacks they benefit from two sets of damage increases ..both Mighty and "Weapon Expert" Passive. It is possible that players with a ton of champion points are benefiting from this but I know from watching Kerviz's stream recently that he only has ~147 CPs so maybe only one of those two passives is bugged or possibly only the "Blade Expert" passive.
On PTS I think they give you 300 points though correct? (I haven't rolled a template char yet).
No, I know, I drop 50/50 into both these passive, myself. I'm saying that I run the same CP spec live/pts and am not seeing any errors.
He tried this garbage with me on live and I bashed his face in.
If people are hitting this hard on PTS then it is possible that the CP Heavy Attack passive is additive with the Battle Spirit buff instead of multiplicative with it.
I'll have to do some testing to determine the problem but it wouldn't surprise me if ZoS missed a few in their sweep.
I don't see how, as I am getting a near 50% reduction versus what I can do on live. Which is odd since it should just be 30%
Well with Heavy attacks they benefit from two sets of damage increases ..both Mighty and "Weapon Expert" Passive. It is possible that players with a ton of champion points are benefiting from this but I know from watching Kerviz's stream recently that he only has ~147 CPs so maybe only one of those two passives is bugged or possibly only the "Blade Expert" passive.
On PTS I think they give you 300 points though correct? (I haven't rolled a template char yet).
No, I know, I drop 50/50 into both these passive, myself. I'm saying that I run the same CP spec live/pts and am not seeing any errors.
If you are seeing a 50% drop from what you did on live then it is likely one of them was in fact bugged since you should only be seeing a 37.5% drop in damage.
A 10K heavy attack seems reasonable but a 14K heavy attack does not.
It is possible that the Khajiit passive itself is what is bugged. It should be easy to determine whether or not this is the case.
If there is one thing I've learn in testing this game it is to never take ZoS at their word when they say they've fixed something.
He tried this garbage with me on live and I bashed his face in.
If people are hitting this hard on PTS then it is possible that the CP Heavy Attack passive is additive with the Battle Spirit buff instead of multiplicative with it.
I'll have to do some testing to determine the problem but it wouldn't surprise me if ZoS missed a few in their sweep.
I don't see how, as I am getting a near 50% reduction versus what I can do on live. Which is odd since it should just be 30%
Well with Heavy attacks they benefit from two sets of damage increases ..both Mighty and "Weapon Expert" Passive. It is possible that players with a ton of champion points are benefiting from this but I know from watching Kerviz's stream recently that he only has ~147 CPs so maybe only one of those two passives is bugged or possibly only the "Blade Expert" passive.
On PTS I think they give you 300 points though correct? (I haven't rolled a template char yet).
No, I know, I drop 50/50 into both these passive, myself. I'm saying that I run the same CP spec live/pts and am not seeing any errors.
If you are seeing a 50% drop from what you did on live then it is likely one of them was in fact bugged since you should only be seeing a 37.5% drop in damage.
A 10K heavy attack seems reasonable but a 14K heavy attack does not.
It is possible that the Khajiit passive itself is what is bugged. It should be easy to determine whether or not this is the case.
If there is one thing I've learn in testing this game it is to never take ZoS at their word when they say they've fixed something.
He tried this garbage with me on live and I bashed his face in.
If people are hitting this hard on PTS then it is possible that the CP Heavy Attack passive is additive with the Battle Spirit buff instead of multiplicative with it.
I'll have to do some testing to determine the problem but it wouldn't surprise me if ZoS missed a few in their sweep.
I don't see how, as I am getting a near 50% reduction versus what I can do on live. Which is odd since it should just be 30%
Well with Heavy attacks they benefit from two sets of damage increases ..both Mighty and "Weapon Expert" Passive. It is possible that players with a ton of champion points are benefiting from this but I know from watching Kerviz's stream recently that he only has ~147 CPs so maybe only one of those two passives is bugged or possibly only the "Blade Expert" passive.
On PTS I think they give you 300 points though correct? (I haven't rolled a template char yet).
No, I know, I drop 50/50 into both these passive, myself. I'm saying that I run the same CP spec live/pts and am not seeing any errors.
If you are seeing a 50% drop from what you did on live then it is likely one of them was in fact bugged since you should only be seeing a 37.5% drop in damage.
A 10K heavy attack seems reasonable but a 14K heavy attack does not.
It is possible that the Khajiit passive itself is what is bugged. It should be easy to determine whether or not this is the case.
If there is one thing I've learn in testing this game it is to never take ZoS at their word when they say they've fixed something.
Heavy attacks on live with Dual Wield & Relentless Focus+Major Brutality: 22-23k
22 500-30%=15 750~ damage on average
or if you want to use 37.5% modifier (still not sure where this number is from):
22 500-37,5%=14 062 damage on average
Nothing out of the ordinary here for this Imperial NB.
Lol I dont even...
Biggest burst heal I ever have achieved in pts, is like 13k-ish with 2 second cast timed spell, a templar skill Ritual of Rebirth. Instant one is like 7k with 30% bonus heal. And that is with everything in magicka, without any defence.
So yeah... Lol.. Better to nerf all defence/heal options. And more pew pew
Lol I dont even...
Biggest burst heal I ever have achieved in pts, is like 13k-ish with 2 second cast timed spell, a templar skill Ritual of Rebirth. Instant one is like 7k with 30% bonus heal. And that is with everything in magicka, without any defence.
So yeah... Lol.. Better to nerf all defence/heal options. And more pew pew
Lol I dont even...
Biggest burst heal I ever have achieved in pts, is like 13k-ish with 2 second cast timed spell, a templar skill Ritual of Rebirth. Instant one is like 7k with 30% bonus heal. And that is with everything in magicka, without any defence.
So yeah... Lol.. Better to nerf all defence/heal options. And more pew pew
With my build on the PTS as a template character, I get 11k crits for BoL on myself in healing ritual, and have 31k HP. Also have 2800 regen and 24k magicka. Just gotta mess around with things for a bit.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »So it's ok for skills and spells to hit 10K+ but heavy attacks that hit over 10K every one looses there minds.
If stealth is involved, yes.
Every community I have seen since I started mmoing in 97' complains about stealth. Those who don't enjoy that playstyle complain it's not fair and or cheap. Sheeple will be sheeple /shrug
But that's the thing if he was able to sneak up on a another living players to let off a fully charge heavy attack with a 2H weapon in the middle of a heavy PvE npc and heavy PvP area then he deserves to get a 10K hit like so many things have to go right to do it.
Oh don't misunderstand me, I am ALL for stealth play. It's my only real passion when I play am MMO. So I completely agree.
I'm just saying there are folks out there that have no clue what it's like and think the playstyle is cheezy and easy, thus they think it's BS.
What I find sad is, the amount of counters to stealth are more plentiful in this game than any other I have played. But people would rather complain like a bunch of natch's rather than slot them because they are situational.